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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Dean champion on December 02, 2019, 04:45:17 pm
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Had a copper 14 inch 3kw immersion heater fitted into my 700l tank which blew after a week.Put it down to a cheap faulty element so bought a more expensive titanium 14 inch 3kw and replaced which has blown after 1 day :'( so I have come to the decision I’m doing something wrong.Its been fitted with immersion heater cable and plugged into a stander external plug socket.Im guessing the element is to small for the amount of water, kw is to big or the power supply is not correct.Don’t no which road to go down to correct the problem.Does any of guys have the answer or have similar element fitted but is running fine ? Don’t fancy replacing it again until I’m confident it will last
Thanks in advance Dean
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What exactly do you mean by “blown”
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It should be a 16amp socket, not the standard 13amp
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What exactly do you mean by “blown”
The heating element rod which sits inside the tank has split/burst so you can see the coiled wire that that’s runs inside the rods and shards of the metal on bottom of the tank
The tank has been full of water when the element has been switched on and left on all night (9 hours).
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Had a copper 14 inch 3kw immersion heater fitted into my 700l tank which blew after a week.Put it down to a cheap faulty element so bought a more expensive titanium 14 inch 3kw and replaced which has blown after 1 day :'( so I have come to the decision I’m doing something wrong.Its been fitted with immersion heater cable and plugged into a stander external plug socket.Im guessing the element is to small for the amount of water, kw is to big or the power supply is not correct.Don’t no which road to go down to correct the problem.Does any of guys have the answer or have similar element fitted but is running fine ? Don’t fancy replacing it again until I’m confident it will last
Thanks in advance Dean
did you not think to do your research before fitting a 3kw element?you need to upgrade your electrics.....just think yourself lucky that you didnt start a fire.....
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Had a copper 14 inch 3kw immersion heater fitted into my 700l tank which blew after a week.Put it down to a cheap faulty element so bought a more expensive titanium 14 inch 3kw and replaced which has blown after 1 day :'( so I have come to the decision I’m doing something wrong.Its been fitted with immersion heater cable and plugged into a stander external plug socket.Im guessing the element is to small for the amount of water, kw is to big or the power supply is not correct.Don’t no which road to go down to correct the problem.Does any of guys have the answer or have similar element fitted but is running fine ? Don’t fancy replacing it again until I’m confident it will last
Thanks in advance Dean
did you not think to do your research before fitting a 3kw element?you need to upgrade your electrics.....just think yourself lucky that you didnt start a fire.....
How could that blow the actual element? Overheat the cable/reel/plug yeah but blow the element into pieces?
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Had a copper 14 inch 3kw immersion heater fitted into my 700l tank which blew after a week.Put it down to a cheap faulty element so bought a more expensive titanium 14 inch 3kw and replaced which has blown after 1 day :'( so I have come to the decision I’m doing something wrong.Its been fitted with immersion heater cable and plugged into a stander external plug socket.Im guessing the element is to small for the amount of water, kw is to big or the power supply is not correct.Don’t no which road to go down to correct the problem.Does any of guys have the answer or have similar element fitted but is running fine ? Don’t fancy replacing it again until I’m confident it will last
Thanks in advance Dean
did you not think to do your research before fitting a 3kw element?you need to upgrade your electrics.....just think yourself lucky that you didnt start a fire.....
I did the research I thought I needed to but obviously not enough
What does upgrade your electrics mean ?
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How could that blow the actual element? Overheat the cable/reel/plug yeah but blow the element into pieces?
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Spoke to the manufacturer after the first element blew, he assured me that the element was probably faulty so I replaced with a more expensive element which has blew but not as extreme as the first
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Is it the elememt or the thermostat thats broke.
Do you have a thermostat on it?
A 3 kw should be wired correctly with a seperate dedicated line in house electrics. But yes, this is a first ive heard of this happening. Whos your supplier
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Is it the elememt or the thermostat thats broke.
Do you have a thermostat on it?
A 3 kw should be wired correctly with a seperate dedicated line in house electrics. But yes, this is a first ive heard of this happening. Whos your supplier
On both the element has split but the thermostats were fine.Confused with what you mean by supplier.....immersion heater was tesla from screwfix , Co-op energy is my electricity supplier ?
Thanks
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Would a 2kw immersion heater need its own element need a separate dedicated line in house electrics ?
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Is it the elememt or the thermostat thats broke.
Do you have a thermostat on it?
A 3 kw should be wired correctly with a seperate dedicated line in house electrics. But yes, this is a first ive heard of this happening. Whos your supplier
On both the element has split but the thermostats were fine.Confused with what you mean by supplier.....immersion heater was tesla from screwfix , Co-op energy is my electricity supplier ?
Thanks
id consult a qualified electrician and see what he thinks instead of asking a bunch of window cleaners!.... ;D......that would be my first port of call anyway....
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Is it the elememt or the thermostat thats broke.
Do you have a thermostat on it?
A 3 kw should be wired correctly with a seperate dedicated line in house electrics. But yes, this is a first ive heard of this happening. Whos your supplier
On both the element has split but the thermostats were fine.Confused with what you mean by supplier.....immersion heater was tesla from screwfix , Co-op energy is my electricity supplier ?
Thanks
Yep, i meant as in, who supplied you the element?
If I was you, try contacting Heatrod, as they produce n sell them.
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Thanks Nathan I’ll give them a call
Cheers
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I'm with Daz, get a qualified electrician to look at this for you.
If it's not wired correctly, 3kw could literally catch fire and that's your house burnt down!
Best be safe than sorry.
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Hi Dean, I had a 3kw element with armoured cable long enough to reach my shed from the van . This had a normal 240v plug on the end which I plugged in each night for hot water in my tank.
It was same setup as you.
I know this is dangerous because the plug can overheat and eventually set on fire.
But my point is, I did this for quite a few years and the system worked well. So, if your elements went pop, it seems likely that they were faulty or/ also maybe your wiring may be dodgy.
Did you get any hot water in the tank , or was it stone cold the next morning?
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Sounds a bit strange, most elements have a thermal cut out and reset button. Granted you’ve taken a chance with your wiring 3kw is right on the limit for standard wiring, anything else on the same spur would overheat the wiring.
How is your element mounted?
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Hi Dean, I had a 3kw element with armoured cable long enough to reach my shed from the van . This had a normal 240v plug on the end which I plugged in each night for hot water in my tank.
It was same setup as you.
I know this is dangerous because the plug can overheat and eventually set on fire.
But my point is, I did this for quite a few years and the system worked well. So, if your elements went pop, it seems likely that they were faulty or/ also maybe your wiring may be dodgy.
Did you get any hot water in the tank , or was it stone cold the next morning?
Water was Stone cold the next morning but it could of blown the end of the night before as had a full tank of hot water that day.As you have suggested it could be the wiring so iv orderd the lower 2kw immersion that I will fit then arrange for a electrician to wire it up so fingers crossed this will solve the issue.
Thanks for the suggestion and advice
Dean
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Had a copper 14 inch 3kw immersion heater fitted into my 700l tank which blew after a week.Put it down to a cheap faulty element so bought a more expensive titanium 14 inch 3kw and replaced which has blown after 1 day :'( so I have come to the decision I’m doing something wrong.Its been fitted with immersion heater cable and plugged into a stander external plug socket.Im guessing the element is to small for the amount of water, kw is to big or the power supply is not correct.Don’t no which road to go down to correct the problem.Does any of guys have the answer or have similar element fitted but is running fine ? Don’t fancy replacing it again until I’m confident it will last
Thanks in advance Dean
How much water in inches/cm was covering the element above it when you switched it on? Was your van on level ground?
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Had a copper 14 inch 3kw immersion heater fitted into my 700l tank which blew after a week.Put it down to a cheap faulty element so bought a more expensive titanium 14 inch 3kw and replaced which has blown after 1 day :'( so I have come to the decision I’m doing something wrong.Its been fitted with immersion heater cable and plugged into a stander external plug socket.Im guessing the element is to small for the amount of water, kw is to big or the power supply is not correct.Don’t no which road to go down to correct the problem.Does any of guys have the answer or have similar element fitted but is running fine ? Don’t fancy replacing it again until I’m confident it will last
Thanks in advance Dean
How much water in inches/cm was covering the element above it when you switched it on? Was your van on level ground?
Van was on level ground with full tank of water when swtiched on.Heater is fitted at the bottom of an 700l upright so was well submerged
Dean