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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: dazmond on November 11, 2019, 04:38:22 pm
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ive been struggling with my back for 2 months now but it seemed to be getting better until yesterday.....i stood up after a family meal out and i couldnt stand up straight the stiffness/pain was that bad.....got up this morning and took ibuprofen and paracetamol and went to work..... :)
...well......ive NEVER had a bad back as bad as today EVER in 48 years....managed 4 hours work(5 large houses one requiring ladders to access a glass roof!) and then i had to come home..im in agony.... ::)roll
tomorrow i have a customer due who knows an osteopath(who ll come to your house) so im gonna get his number while im there.....
ive knocked the gym on the head for this week and ive had to cancel a gig with the lads this friday as theres no way im gonna be fit enough to play drums for 2 hours(and setting up/packing them away and lugging them in and out of my car).....
dont think there is anything i can do wfp wise as i already use the lightest equipment,electric reel etc.....
what do you guys do when suffering a bad back?....i could probably do with some stronger painkillers like codeine......
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I have bad lower back pain and have a deep tissue massage twice a month which massively helps but I recently bought a heat pad from ebay , £20 called a dream catcher, I use it before bed and when I wake up for 30 mins and this has helped enormously I also apply tiger balm when I get home , take lots of anti inflammatory slime ginger and turmeric added to your food , good luck regards alan
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I empty my wallet on the kitchen table the night before. Too much weight in one back pocket doesn’t help.
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Hot water, electric reels and heated seats have been proven to bring on slipped discs and major joint issues as does being overweight and spending weeks on a sun lounger. ;D
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Ever helpful Dave Willis! ;D
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I go to a sports massage therapist every 6-8wks. It’s a luxury ,I know. But there is always a niggle or muscle knot in my shoulder or back that gets sorted out.
Over the last few months I’ve had pain around my hip area and the muscles have been really tight there. But the massage has taken it out.
Well worth the money imo. Our shoulders, backs and upper leg/hip areas take a real battering in our job. We need to look after ourselves to keep going.
For me, sports massage is what will keep me going as I get older in this job. My body is my earner, like the wfp, it needs looking after to get the best out of it. Maintenance ;D
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I used to suffer terribly with bad back, upper, middle and lower. It would go ping basically every few weeks and would usually mean 3-5 days resting before I could work again.
Since I stopped (trying) to lift heavy weights and focussed more on running and mountain walking my back has been good as gold.
Coincidence?
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Back pain usually comes from 2 incidents, a disc prolapsing and your bodies response to that prolapse.
I won’t waste my time explaining a prolapsed disc the internet is full of info, but the only treatment is movement of the prolapse so it microscopically breaks away and is absorbed by the body, it cannot go back into place. Unless you move (work) it will not heal
Spasm of the surrounding muscles by the body in a reaction to the prolapse, you body is sensing an injury and wants to protect the area. The area needs to relax which can be done slightly with deep tissue massage but drugs do it better either tramadol for pain or muscle relaxants like diazepam
Strong painkillers are also needed to help you move the area which again require prescription drugs (tramadol, OxyContin )
Chiropractors, osteopaths etc are useless the results they achieve are the normal healing of the body not the result of their treatment
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Sure it's not from lifting weights Daz?
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Yoga
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I used to suffer terribly with bad back, upper, middle and lower. It would go ping basically every few weeks and would usually mean 3-5 days resting before I could work again.
Since I stopped (trying) to lift heavy weights and focussed more on running and mountain walking my back has been good as gold.
Coincidence?
i originally injured it Danny lifting too heavy on a deadlift and arching my back TOO MUCH......but ive not done any for over 2 months now...i wont be going back to any kind of deadlifts for the forseeable future.....my middle and upper back are very strong as are my shoulders,arms and upper traps which helps with wfp work IMO (from 3+ years of weight training).......
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Hi Daz,
Last Friday night I ‘slipped a disc’ it’s happened to me 4 times. Agony.
When it happens I can’t move well, and the slightest flex in the spine is very painful. It usually (and strangely) gets better about 48 hours later. By better, I mean I can move around more. It can take weeks to get fully better, and in fact I’ve had it hurt for months on end before.
Personally, I’ve come to the conclusion that it isn’t work related. Now bare with me....
I think if you are carrying any family stress or tension, it can affect your back. Doctors are starting to cotton on to the emotion-body connection.
I have noted over the years that my back suffers when I’m stressed. My back first went when my dad came back into my life, and the stress that went with it. He’s a major alcoholic, almost died twice.
Since then, my back only suffers when emotions are running high and I’m not keeping on top of them.
Of course, sometimes it can be purely physical, I don’t doubt that. But just bare it mind it might be more than that. I only say this as you had a family meal.
Hope it gets better soon mate!
If it’s disc related, then no amount of massage will help. I spent £££ on physio and massage, but that only helps the muscles.
Keep on top of emotions, and stress. Keep on top of your health (which you do) and it should pass.
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I used to suffer terribly with bad back, upper, middle and lower. It would go ping basically every few weeks and would usually mean 3-5 days resting before I could work again.
Since I stopped (trying) to lift heavy weights and focussed more on running and mountain walking my back has been good as gold.
Coincidence?
i originally injured it Danny lifting too heavy on a deadlift and arching my back TOO MUCH......but ive not done any for over 2 months now...i wont be going back to any kind of deadlifts for the forseeable future.....my middle and upper back are very strong as are my shoulders,arms and upper traps which helps with wfp work IMO (from 3+ years of weight training).......
Hope you make a full recovery and quick Daz, back pain is no fun, especially in our job.
In my experience back strength has no correlation to my back staying injury free. In my early 20’s I was far stronger and more muscular than I am now and my back was terrible.
I stopped lifting heavy weights around 12 years ago and literally within weeks my back improved.
Could just be coincidence of course but I personally believe not.
Anyway good luck.
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I go to a sports massage therapist every 6-8wks. It’s a luxury ,I know. But there is always a niggle or muscle knot in my shoulder or back that gets sorted out.
Over the last few months I’ve had pain around my hip area and the muscles have been really tight there. But the massage has taken it out.
Well worth the money imo. Our shoulders, backs and upper leg/hip areas take a real battering in our job. We need to look after ourselves to keep going.
For me, sports massage is what will keep me going as I get older in this job. My body is my earner, like the wfp, it needs looking after to get the best out of it. Maintenance ;D
Yeah I call those sports massage sport too lol,can we just skip to the last 5 minutes please that seems to hit the spot lol
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Back pain usually comes from 2 incidents, a disc prolapsing and your bodies response to that prolapse.
I won’t waste my time explaining a prolapsed disc the internet is full of info, but the only treatment is movement of the prolapse so it microscopically breaks away and is absorbed by the body, it cannot go back into place. Unless you move (work) it will not heal
Spasm of the surrounding muscles by the body in a reaction to the prolapse, you body is sensing an injury and wants to protect the area. The area needs to relax which can be done slightly with deep tissue massage but drugs do it better either tramadol for pain or muscle relaxants like diazepam
Strong painkillers are also needed to help you move the area which again require prescription drugs (tramadol, OxyContin )
Chiropractors, osteopaths etc are useless the results they achieve are the normal healing of the body not the result of their treatment
interesting mike......ive never had a back back like this before.....ive not got sciatica or numbness or anything but i cant stand up straight without being in severe pain around the lower back region just above my glutes....its excruciating.......
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Some osteopaths work wonders and some don't.
Codeine is a brilliant pain killer for backache.
Lightest poles going are gardiners modular poles compared to anything else telescopic. It maybe slower using modular poles for normal work but the weight difference is very significant for someone suffering agonising back pain.
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I used to suffer terribly with bad back, upper, middle and lower. It would go ping basically every few weeks and would usually mean 3-5 days resting before I could work again.
Since I stopped (trying) to lift heavy weights and focussed more on running and mountain walking my back has been good as gold.
Coincidence?
i originally injured it Danny lifting too heavy on a deadlift and arching my back TOO MUCH......but ive not done any for over 2 months now...i wont be going back to any kind of deadlifts for the forseeable future.....my middle and upper back are very strong as are my shoulders,arms and upper traps which helps with wfp work IMO (from 3+ years of weight training).......
Hope you make a full recovery and quick Daz, back pain is no fun, especially in our job.
In my experience back strength has no correlation to my back staying injury free. In my early 20’s I was far stronger and more muscular than I am now and my back was terrible.
I stopped lifting heavy weights around 12 years ago and literally within weeks my back improved.
Could just be coincidence of course but I personally believe not.
Anyway good luck.
cheers danny....ill be giving the gym a miss for a bit but i love lifting weights...the pump and burn is a great feeling,i love playing drums too!esp with the lads in my band....but both will have to go on the backburner for now.....i will do some cardio in the gym(stationary bike)but not today...i cant even stand up straight at the moment! ::)roll
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I had the exact same thing Daz I had a nerve pushing on a lower- lumber disk,I went to work 1 morning and it was all I could do to get out of the van to turn the heater off before I drove home in severe discomfort.
I come home and a couple of times a week from lower back to neck go on my foam roller click click click £40s worth of treatment done in about 3-4 seconds,you need to roll and stretch a lot of it is the fact that we all pole standing at an angle whether you think you don’t or not.
I’ve had this happen twice in about 5 years the first time I thought I’d really done something serious,quiet common when you look it up.
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Pump and burn we talking about that massage therapist again Daz lol
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It’s the gym daz . I stopped doing all deadlifts years ago as it’s just not worth getting injured and missing work. Earlier this year I took a month out the gym but kept window cleaning as normal- all my little niggles / tight elbows, joints went back to 100%. I started the gym again and slowly they started coming back too
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I feel your pain Daz, back pain can be a right nightmare....I had a prolapsed disc or two a few years back, had to get my daughter to put my socks on for me for a few days as there was no way I could bend down that far😢
If I were you I would be going to a specialist to get a diagnosis, then depending on that diagnosis you can put in place a course of action for both the short and long term.
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It’s the gym daz . I stopped doing all deadlifts years ago as it’s just not worth getting injured and missing work. Earlier this year I took a month out the gym but kept window cleaning as normal- all my little niggles / tight elbows, joints went back to 100%. I started the gym again and slowly they started coming back too
im not giving up the gym mate...ill work around injuries etc,but i wont be doing heavy deadlifts anymore thats for sure......
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I feel your pain Daz, back pain can be a right nightmare....I had a prolapsed disc or two a few years back, had to get my daughter to put my socks on for me for a few days as there was no way I could bend down that far😢
If I were you I would be going to a specialist to get a diagnosis, then depending on that diagnosis you can put in place a course of action for both the short and long term.
all the doctor will do is give me painkillers and tell me to keep moving as much as possible......my brothers dropping off some of my mums strong painkillers in a bit so im might be able to get out and do a bit tomorrow to keep active....
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It’s the gym daz . I stopped doing all deadlifts years ago as it’s just not worth getting injured and missing work. Earlier this year I took a month out the gym but kept window cleaning as normal- all my little niggles / tight elbows, joints went back to 100%. I started the gym again and slowly they started coming back too
im not giving up the gym mate...ill work around injuries etc,but i wont be doing heavy deadlifts anymore thats for sure......
No way - I’m not saying quit the gym lol , I wouldn’t be able to do that either. Iv just stopped the heavy lifting and do more reps instead of more weight
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I listened to a podcast recently talking about deadlifts and their relation to functional strength.
They are terrible.
Look at athletes or sports people, they never do deadlifts. Far too much risk for too little gain.
Stick to rows and pull ups for your back. I reckon that should keep your back fairly healthy.
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Start swimming instead of Gym Daz , best form of excercise i think, nice and easy on the joints ;)
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im dosed up on ibuprofen and paracetamol and my brother has just nipped round with some nefopam so ive took one of them too! ;D
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Start swimming instead of Gym Daz , best form of excercise i think, nice and easy on the joints ;)
good shout that mate........i swim virtually everyday when on holiday but not so much when back in england.....should do me good while im recovering but i wont be giving up the weights anytime soon once my backs sorted.....
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I found this book on old school calisthenics really helpful & interesting Daz:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Convict-Conditioning-Weakness-Survival-Strength/dp/0938045768/ref=nodl_
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Once your back’s gone the chances are it will go again. I was 26 when mine went (lowering a baby into her cot). I was the fittest I could be (or so I thought). Weight training six times a week, incredibly strong for my size with a six pack. I couldn’t move for a week and when I did venture out I couldn’t get off the kerb. Weight training is bad for backs particularly things like sit ups, dead lifts and squats.
Wfp is good for my back, it makes me stretch and arch (reverse) my back. Still have physio every six weeks and have done for twenty years but no more episodes for a long time.
Look after your back, pointless being vain at your age, concentrate on fitness, leave the posing for the gays and guys with little willy’s.
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Chiropractors, osteopaths etc are useless the results they achieve are the normal healing of the body not the result of their treatment
sorry mike totally disagree with you on the above,and i like to see what proof you have to back this up
a good osteopath etc will have you sorted in no time Daz if they are worth there wait
dont see it as a cure,see it as a release from the pain
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I did a similar thing, deadlifting too heavy and felt a sharp pain above my right hip. It stayed with me for months, it would go away then come back a day or two later.
I don't deadlift at the minute, not missing it.
Bad knees now feel better from not squatting too.
Boht the dealift and the squat are very beneficial to us ageing men, but only if done correctly.
I'll be getting back to them, but much lighter and with very strict form.
Your back will heal up given time. Leave the ego at the gym door.
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Back pain usually comes from 2 incidents, a disc prolapsing and your bodies response to that prolapse.
I won’t waste my time explaining a prolapsed disc the internet is full of info, but the only treatment is movement of the prolapse so it microscopically breaks away and is absorbed by the body, it cannot go back into place. Unless you move (work) it will not heal
Spasm of the surrounding muscles by the body in a reaction to the prolapse, you body is sensing an injury and wants to protect the area. The area needs to relax which can be done slightly with deep tissue massage but drugs do it better either tramadol for pain or muscle relaxants like diazepam
Strong painkillers are also needed to help you move the area which again require prescription drugs (tramadol, OxyContin )
Chiropractors, osteopaths etc are useless the results they achieve are the normal healing of the body not the result of their treatment
I haven't read the whole thread but what Mike has said is absolutely spot on, an exact situation I went through a few years back even to this day I have to resort now and again to co-codamol (zapain) and diazepam, I would advise from my experience to try your best to avoid tramadol. But definitely have it looked at as if you leave it and you start trapping nerves you will start to suffer from sciatica and you will never experienced a pain like it.
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Please don't go down the Cocodamol route, they are highly addictive and give you constipation.
When your back has fully recovered get used to a regime of before work back stretching exercises to warm up the muscles.
I'm 66 years old and this has been very successful and i'm still doing Krav.
Good luck!
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Sorry to hear about this.
No experience with Osteopaths but I've always been amazed at what Physiotherapists can achieve with the sporting-related injuries I've had.
It sounds like you are in really great shape physically, so surely that has to help as a factor in a speedy recovery.
Maybe cycling, swimming or yoga would help, plus intermittent fasting if you ever want to lose weight?
All the best for a rapid recovery.
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You should be quite robust with all that gym. Sounds like a spasm as described earlier. I get it from time to time often when doing the simplest thing, lifting something light out of the car, once by picking a weed out of the garden path on my way out. Had to cancel the night out! Best way to get quick relief lie in a hot bath, feet resting by the taps knees at right angle. Lie on floor with legs raised on a chair knees at right angle. Looks daft but works.
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cheers for all the helpful replies lads....👍
ive wrote the week off....theres no way ill be working again this week...my back has totally gone now.........iv done some stretching exercises this morning but its too painful to do much at the moment.i cant even sit on a chair or walk without being in agony..... ::)roll
my back has never been this bad before.......
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Good shout for the swimming. I had a bulging disk a year ago and the only thing that got me moving was the swimming , best not to go sedentary . What I learnt in recovery from a physio though is that a strong core is what counteracts a bad back. I know I used to ignore core work in my gym sessions. Think Bruce Lee and not Arnold Schwarzenegger
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cheers for all the helpful replies lads....👍
ive wrote the week off....theres no way ill be working again this week...my back has totally gone now.........iv done some stretching exercises this morning but its too painful to do much at the moment.i cant even sit on a chair or walk without being in agony..... ::)roll
my back has never been this bad before.......
Because you are a self-employed one man band I would suggest you phone your GP to arrange a visit asap.
They will probably just try to palm you off with painkillers and "2 weeks off work", but see if you can get them to refer you to the surgery (or local area) Physiotherapist.
Sometimes it can help you to get on the Physio list by being self employed, because potentially you will have no income particularly if you could be out sick long term.
You really need to be pro active about this situation because hopefully you will recover in a short time but if you don't you need to have a plan in place.
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Try a lacross Bala across the glutes the looseness can reviews tight lower back
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I’d book straight in to see a private physio or osteopath. Doctor is too long to wait. Rest is no good either. That’s old school. It’s tax deductible also. It’s your livelihood.
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I think it would be good to get some advice from a professional who is not trying to make some money.
Where I live in Wales there is a thing called the "In Work Support" who got me 6 free sessions with an osteopath last year which helped my neck issues tremendously.
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Personally I think rest is all I should do at the moment.it cant be good when every single movement causes serious pain.the lower part of my neck is sore too now!
Even if I got a doctor's appointment theres no way I could physically get there in this condition.......
Theres no point in stretching either as this makes the pain worse.....I'm ok as long as I'm lay flat on my bed and dont move! ;D ::)roll
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Hi Daz. Similar to a previous post, lie on your back on a firm surface {carpet is fine}. Have a small cushion under your head and have your feet flat on the floor with your legs slightly apart.
This flattens out your spine and relaxes everything. Do that for an hour if you can and then get up slowly. Diazepam as mentioned is lovely but also addictive. If you can get to the Doc's, ask for this drug and take it especially at bed time. Best nights sleep and no spasms!
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Get your missus to kick you in the nads, 5 times. Repeatedly.
You'll be back to work in a tick.
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......... and some Manup pills.
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Biomechanical issues/injuries can be accounted to too much time or bad posture using smart phones and computer keyboards etc so be careful this isn't aggravating the situation while your at home resting Daz.
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I think all this hot water, heated seats and 5 star holidays malarkey has turned you into a big puff with a glass back Daz!! ;D
My advice... sling the hot box, buy an old Kangoo and book a week at Butlins!👍💪
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well ive managed to make a bit of lunch and a brew,walk around the flat for a few mins and a few mild stretching exercises lay on my back(hamstring leg pulls,etc),wash some work clothes and ive rescheduled all my work right up until xmas now.....
ive also ordered a foam roller from amazon.........its a start..... ;D
just got up to take clothes out of washing machine and i cant stand up straight again...i think the nefopam is wearing off so ive took another tablet plus 2 paracetamol and 2 ibuprofen again......
tbh honest i feel disabled!......ive never done my back in like this before and the ironic thing is IT HAPPENED WHILE SITTING DOWN EATING A BIRTHDAY MEAL WITH MY FAMILY......strange.....
im hoping to be back at work by monday but at the moment it feels like i never will!every little normal every day task is hard work....... :(
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so......lifting weights and playing drums are totally out for the foreseeable future...the 2 hobbies i love the most......if it comes to the point where i cant do all three (work,drums and weights)then 2 will have to go....which just leaves window cleaning!depressing thought really! ::)roll........
1.i think ill attend the local yoga class on a monday evening in a few weeks when im in less pain...
2.focus on cardio in the gym(bike) or go swimming instead
3.keep up the back stretching exercises morning and evening(build it into my daily routine)
4.use the foam roller
5.my diet is pretty good although i will have to tweak it and eat less if im not lifting weights,i dont drink or smoke cigarettes anymore so thats not a problem..
6.ill have to watch the painkillers....and only take them if i really need them...
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I’m telling you Daz, it could be related to stress!
Family stress...
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When you are on the mend the best exercise is swimming, takes the pressure off the joints that's why hydrapools are the best medicine for arthritic rheumatoid and oesteoarthritic sufferers use them with the specialists recommendations as the best form of exercise closely followed by yoga with stretching and relaxing exercises for suppleness
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Give the yoga a good go (with advice from the instructor). It is also good for stress.
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I’m telling you Daz, it could be related to stress!
Family stress...
i doubt it very much mate as our immediate family stick together...we dont stab each other in the back like some families..... ;D.....it was my nieces 13th birthday meal!
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I did a similar thing, deadlifting too heavy and felt a sharp pain above my right hip. It stayed with me for months, it would go away then come back a day or two later.
I don't deadlift at the minute, not missing it.
Bad knees now feel better from not squatting too.
Boht the dealift and the squat are very beneficial to us ageing men, but only if done correctly.
I'll be getting back to them, but much lighter and with very strict form.
Your back will heal up given time. Leave the ego at the gym door.
personally i dont think deadlifting or squats do any of us any good when you get into your 40s and beyond esp if its heavy weights...its madness when you think about it......its just not worth the risk of injury.....
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Daz, you say it's been playing up for a couple of months, so you need to get it sorted; not try and guess what it is.
Get to the Doc's and insist on seeing a specialist, or better still get a referral to the hospital for a scan.
If it were me (and I had a day to spare), get yourself down to A&E and tell them you can't move (not far from the truth).
At least you'll get some answers.
In the short term, an electric blanket (yes I know it sounds old fogey!) but the heat will help relax your body and hopefully reduce the pain. Mrs Window Cleaner has fibromyalgia and it helps her. When you can, Pilates is very good for your back.
Hope you're better soon.
PS If you get an electric blanket, get an overblanket (one that goes on top of you), the order looks like this:
Duvet
Electric blanket
Sheet
You
Bottom sheet
Matress
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I’m telling you Daz, it could be related to stress!
Family stress...
i doubt it very much mate as our immediate family stick together...we dont stab each other in the back like some families..... ;D.....it was my nieces 13th birthday meal!
Could be any type of stress, could be physical, worth keeping both in check mate 👍🏼
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Sounds like your suffering Daz, I feel your pain mate.
I’ve been there many times in the past but luckily not for a few years now.
I’d seriously look into booking an hour with a sports massage therapist or even an osteopath, they can really work wonders and the relief can be almost instant.
Last time I was in your position I went to see these, at the time it was the best £30 odd quid I had spent. They are only down the road from your Mrs place I think.
http://physiostation.co.uk/conditions-we-treat/
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Sounds like your suffering Daz, I feel your pain mate.
I’ve been there many times in the past but luckily not for a few years now.
I’d seriously look into booking an hour with a sports massage therapist or even an osteopath, they can really work wonders and the relief can be almost instant.
Last time I was in your position I went to see these, at the time it was the best £30 odd quid I had spent. They are only down the road from your Mrs place I think.
http://physiostation.co.uk/conditions-we-treat/
cheers for that danny......
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tbh honest i feel disabled!......ive never done my back in like this before and the ironic thing is IT HAPPENED WHILE SITTING DOWN EATING A BIRTHDAY MEAL WITH MY FAMILY......strange.....
Excuse me for being thick but what have deadlifting and squatting got to do with anything if you injured your back at a family meal, trying to sit down?
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Strange family apparently.
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tbh honest i feel disabled!......ive never done my back in like this before and the ironic thing is IT HAPPENED WHILE SITTING DOWN EATING A BIRTHDAY MEAL WITH MY FAMILY......strange.....
Excuse me for being thick but what have deadlifting and squatting got to do with anything if you injured your back at a family meal, trying to sit down?
i originally injured my back on a heavy deadlift a few months back mate and its never been the same since, but sunday i was just getting up from my chair to go to the toilet at a family meal and it just went...literally...... ::)roll ;D
zesty seems to think that some back problems can be caused through family stress....... ;D
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Might be worth getting your prostate examined . An enlarged prostate can give you a bad back
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tbh honest i feel disabled!......ive never done my back in like this before and the ironic thing is IT HAPPENED WHILE SITTING DOWN EATING A BIRTHDAY MEAL WITH MY FAMILY......strange.....
Excuse me for being thick but what have deadlifting and squatting got to do with anything if you injured your back at a family meal, trying to sit down?
i originally injured my back on a heavy deadlift a few months back mate and its never been the same since, but sunday i was just getting up from my chair to go to the toilet at a family meal and it just went...literally...... ::)roll ;D
zesty seems to think that some back problems can be caused through family stress....... ;D
Don’t doubt it can be purely physical Daz, but also don’t doubt that any type of pent up stress and emotion can affect the body.
As said, doctors now realise this and often ask if you are currently under stress. Friend of mines wife has fybromyalgia and the doctors said this almost always happens when people are locking up emotions.
Sometimes our physical bodies reflect our emotional state.
Of course not always, you may well have just done yourself in by deadlifting mate 😁
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You want me to check your prostate Daz the old fashioned way lol
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What’s all this talk about Dazmond being stressed? He’s the least likely person to be stressed that I know.
No money worries, no dependants, no boss to answer to. He hasn’t needed to set his alarm clock for about 20 years and his monthly rent cost about the same as the average persons council tax. Stress won’t be the issue 😂
How’s the back this morning Daz?
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What’s all this talk about Dazmond being stressed? He’s the least likely person to be stressed that I know.
No money worries, no dependants, no boss to answer to. He hasn’t needed to set his alarm clock for about 20 years and his monthly rent cost about the same as the average persons council tax. Stress won’t be the issue 😂
How’s the back this morning Daz?
Perhaps that’s why he’s stressed, nothing to stress about 😁.
Nah it’s always worth asking, just in case! If he’s all good on the emotional front, then he’s probably succumbed to deadlifting.
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tbh honest i feel disabled!......ive never done my back in like this before and the ironic thing is IT HAPPENED WHILE SITTING DOWN EATING A BIRTHDAY MEAL WITH MY FAMILY......strange.....
Excuse me for being thick but what have deadlifting and squatting got to do with anything if you injured your back at a family meal, trying to sit down?
i originally injured my back on a heavy deadlift a few months back mate and its never been the same since, but sunday i was just getting up from my chair to go to the toilet at a family meal and it just went...literally...... ::)roll ;D
zesty seems to think that some back problems can be caused through family stress....... ;D
Maybe you’re just getting old and the midlife crisis has finally caught up with you then?
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Wait ‘till you get a kidney stone Dazmond if you think this is bad 😢
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What’s all this talk about Dazmond being stressed? He’s the least likely person to be stressed that I know.
No money worries, no dependants, no boss to answer to. He hasn’t needed to set his alarm clock for about 20 years and his monthly rent cost about the same as the average persons council tax. Stress won’t be the issue 😂
How’s the back this morning Daz?
remarkably its improved a fair bit Danny...........i got up and had a shave/shower,washed some clothes,back/hamstring stretching exercises for a 20 mins then made some breakfast......i even managed a bit of hoovering!then the missus called round with some nurofen plus and a hot water bottle!i even managed to keep off the painkillers till 1030am......
......but this afternoon ive been sorting customers phone numbers out on CP/phone and changing the round order on some jobs and it feels sore again and im struggling to stand up straight again but ive been sat at my desk on my laptop for a few hours only getting up for 5 mins every hour to walk around.......
just gotta take it easy for the rest of the week....hopefully ill feel a bit better tomorrow and i can take the dog for a walk as ive not been outside for 2 days....
i reckon its a fairly severe muscular sprain,working monday probably made it worse as i practically forced myself to work which in hindsight was not a good idea! ::)roll ;D
its just my lower back and top of my glutes that are sore and stiff when i stand up,the hot water bottle and massaging the area every time i stand up is helping...the muscle goes into spasm and tightens up really bad if i dont!also the base of my neck is sore too now but this is just fairly mild and i only feel it when i turn my head.....
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Wait ‘till you get a kidney stone Dazmond if you think this is bad 😢
a few of my customers have had em and say its the worst pain in the world! ::)roll
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Hopefully by tomorrow you’ll be feeling much better Daz.
Usually I find the first two days are the worst by far, then it eases off considerably
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What’s all this talk about Dazmond being stressed? He’s the least likely person to be stressed that I know.
No money worries, no dependants, no boss to answer to. He hasn’t needed to set his alarm clock for about 20 years and his monthly rent cost about the same as the average persons council tax. Stress won’t be the issue 😂
How’s the back this morning Daz?
remarkably its improved a fair bit Danny...........i got up and had a shave/shower,washed some clothes,back/hamstring stretching exercises for a 20 mins then made some breakfast......i even managed a bit of hoovering!then the missus called round with some nurofen plus and a hot water bottle!i even managed to keep off the painkillers till 1030am......
......but this afternoon ive been sorting customers phone numbers out on CP/phone and changing the round order on some jobs and it feels sore again and im struggling to stand up straight again but ive been sat at my desk on my laptop for a few hours only getting up for 5 mins every hour to walk around.......
just gotta take it easy for the rest of the week....hopefully ill feel a bit better tomorrow and i can take the dog for a walk as ive not been outside for 2 days....
i reckon its a fairly severe muscular sprain,working monday probably made it worse as i practically forced myself to work which in hindsight was not a good idea! ::)roll ;D
its just my lower back and top of my glutes that are sore and stiff when i stand up,the hot water bottle and massaging the area every time i stand up is helping...the muscle goes into spasm and tightens up really bad if i dont!also the base of my neck is sore too now but this is just fairly mild and i only feel it when i turn my head.....
Dazmond i hope you make a speedy recovery soon, but if its stilling giving you trouble in the next couple of days, i would
seriously consider you seek professional help, you shouldn't mess about taking your back for granted, steps you take now,
can make the difference to successful recovery, hopefully without relapse, about 25 years ago i fell off a wall, landed on
my side on concrete, hit my head needed some stitches, went to bed that night, woke up in the morning, went to get out of
bed, i screamed in agony with terrible back pain, i had to roll out of the bed carefully, i went to the doctors, he examined me,
sent me for an X-ray, no broken bones or fractures, just bad internal bruising and inflammation, it took a few weeks with
painkillers before i felt 100% again, i will never ever take my back for granted, you have to look after it.
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I have prolapse disc lowest one and it touching sciatic nerve also deep tissue damage in my upper back, and two older injuries in my kneck iv got c4 c5 c6 from a old bike crash then I've fell of a ladder years back and fell throw a garage roof smashed my heel bone and ankle to different directions and landed on my arse resulting in compound fracture to t9 and t10, then a plate and screws, I've had surgery on both knees and right shoulder has no cartilage so it's bone on bone, I'm on 3600mg of Gabapentin ten 50mg of tramadol plus 200mg pro long release tramadol,
all this just so I can go out to work I'm now hit 50 years of age and now been slapped type 2 diabetes, it seems a never ending,
but I'm not the type to let it beat me but I know it will at some point as I'm finding it harder and harder, I'd like to get to 55 my son wants to take over so I think I'll get to 55.
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The best thing you can do is get on the cross trainer low impact on joints running kills the knees and ankles I know a few old boys who were runners they can hardly walk now,if you see blokes down the gym over 40 +Daz and they looked big and ripped there juiced m8.
I’d sooner be fitter and leaner over bigger and juiced,I’m around 13-5 stone now I used to go to the gym and was 16 + stone if you lift weights naturally you will pull and injure tendons and muscles if your juiced you won’t feel it.
When you get older you produce less testosterone you will no longer gain size and you are much much more susceptible to injury,if you injure you back badly lifting in a lot of cases it won’t get completely better.
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I have prolapse disc lowest one and it touching sciatic nerve also deep tissue damage in my upper back, and two older injuries in my kneck iv got c4 c5 c6 from a old bike crash then I've fell of a ladder years back and fell throw a garage roof smashed my heel bone and ankle to different directions and landed on my arse resulting in compound fracture to t9 and t10, then a plate and screws, I've had surgery on both knees and right shoulder has no cartilage so it's bone on bone, I'm on 3600mg of Gabapentin ten 50mg of tramadol plus 200mg pro long release tramadol,
all this just so I can go out to work I'm now hit 50 years of age and now been slapped type 2 diabetes, it seems a never ending,
but I'm not the type to let it beat me but I know it will at some point as I'm finding it harder and harder, I'd like to get to 55 my son wants to take over so I think I'll get to 55.
jeeesh!mate....thats bad....ive fell off ladders twice and both times i landed on my heels from 1st floor height...absolutely fine....my bones are very strong.....
you can reverse type 2 diabetes in most cases by going on a 800 calorie diet for a few weeks according to one professor mate.....(google it)
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The best thing you can do is get on the cross trainer low impact on joints running kills the knees and ankles I know a few old boys who were runners they can hardly walk now,if you see blokes down the gym over 40 +Daz and they looked big and ripped there juiced m8.
I’d sooner be fitter and leaner over bigger and juiced,I’m around 13-5 stone now I used to go to the gym and was 16 + stone if you lift weights naturally you will pull and injure tendons and muscles if your juiced you won’t feel it.
When you get older you produce less testosterone you will no longer gain size and you are much much more susceptible to injury,if you injure you back badly lifting in a lot of cases it won’t get completely better.
i love weight training mate so i wont be giving it up anytime soon......im 48 not 78!BUT!the heavy deadlifts will have to go and ill concentrate more on lighter weights,more reps and flexibility,ill also use the machines more...........
ive done another 30 mins of stretching/yoga this evening and my backs feeling loads better.......my foam roller should be here tomorrow so ill be using that every day too.....
i think the main problem is i went back to heavy weight training too early after hurting my back 2 months ago and its not had chance to properly heal...i forget that im not 28 anymore...this is a good reminder..... ;D......
ill still be hitting the gym next week but cardio on the bike and a yoga session only....
im 6ft 2in and 110kg(17 stone 3lbs).....i like the body mass and muscle mate......its the flexibility work ive neglected coupled with lifting too heavy/too much volume in one session.......the only other injuries ive had over the years is bicep tendonitis (which has healed)and a little elbow strain which healed within a few weeks....ive never taken a steroid in my life(although ive been accused of using them by a few gym guys ::)roll)
im still eating 170-220g of protein a day and eating around 3000kcal per day too...these are my maintenance calories,sometimes its as high as 3500kcal on training days...sticking to a high protein diet should help me heal quicker.......
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yea Daz I'm aware I'm in a bad way have been since 96 but life to short and I'm a strong willed I won't give in. yea I'm aware type 2 can be reversed but I think it's gonna be hard as all my life I've weighed around 14 too 15 stone, when I turned 40 I was in best shape of my life, I then retired of the doors after 15 years now I'm 50 I'm 21 stone work that out.
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I can say this honestly Daz I could not train like I did 20 odd years ago and work like I do today and workout properly with any results something would suffer,I’d have to be like you and have 15 days worth of work a month lol lol.
At your age I don’t know what your trying to achieve lifting weights,you won’t grow or build muscle mass for that you would need to be on about 3 different steroids.
Lifting weights it’s so easy to injure yourself if you tear and bicep-tricep or herniate a disc in your back you won’t only have to give up the weights you’ll be giving up work for longer than a few days.
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his best bet is swimming and cycling ,
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A high protein diet will help you burn fat quicker,steroids help you heal quicker and grow quicker it doesn’t matter how much protein you put down you’re neck,6 meals a day of 30 grams of protein in a sitting whatever you would be wasting cash on food.
When you get older you produce less testosterone have less energy muscle shrinks skin sags,they have done trials in America that have proved that testosterone therapy in men over a certain age has improved overall health given them more energy and stable muscle mass.
The protein consumption you are talking about consuming would only be beneficial to someone taking anabolic steroids,otherwise you might as well burn pound notes on food and tubs of nothing more than milkshakes.
Real creatine costs a fourtune not 40/50 quid a tub.
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yea Daz I'm aware I'm in a bad way have been since 96 but life to short and I'm a strong willed I won't give in. yea I'm aware type 2 can be reversed but I think it's gonna be hard as all my life I've weighed around 14 too 15 stone, when I turned 40 I was in best shape of my life, I then retired of the doors after 15 years now I'm 50 I'm 21 stone work that out.
this is one of the reasons why i keep weight training/eating right mate....im 48 and apart from my temporary back problem im in the best shape/health of my adult life.......i used to be an active alcoholic/drug addict in my teens/twenties,i also smoked for many years......now i dont drink,smoke or take drugs and havent for many years....
the human body is an amazing thing....its truly remarkable what you can do/change to help it heal and grow strong again....
i found some inner strength from somewhere and now i have a discipline/focus/tenacity that was missing for large parts of my early,adult,chaotic,rock n roll life i used to lead....
best wishes mate
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I can say this honestly Daz I could not train like I did 20 odd years ago and work like I do today and workout properly with any results something would suffer,I’d have to be like you and have 15 days worth of work a month lol lol.
At your age I don’t know what your trying to achieve lifting weights,you won’t grow or build muscle mass for that you would need to be on about 3 different steroids.
Lifting weights it’s so easy to injure yourself if you tear and bicep-tricep or herniate a disc in your back you won’t only have to give up the weights you’ll be giving up work for longer than a few days.
thats absolutely not the case nigel!of course you can still build muscle in your forties!im living proof.......ive got over 3 and a half years under my belt of regular weight training this time round and the improvements are staggering.....i only workout 3 times a week usually too,my chest and upper back have come on in leaps and bounds esp over the last year or so....even my legs are improving(even though legs are not my strongest feature of my body).......again NO STEROIDS.....
of course once your over 50 the decline begins but you learn to fight it all the way and keep on training in some form or other(but smarter).....NEVER GIVE UP......just adjust it slightly.....
for every little injury/strain i learn something new about myself,how to work around it or stop it from happening again without throwing in the towel....its a learning curve..........
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his best bet is swimming and cycling ,
dont you do any weight training at all mate?...if not you should......resistance training is even more important when we get to 50 mate,even if its just a half hour workout with light weights a few times a week....its good for the bones and keeps you from losing too much muscle as we age.....
i agree swimming and cycling is great exercise/cardio and even brisk walking is good 4 or 5 times a week but its not enough,you need resistance work too......
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A high protein diet will help you burn fat quicker,steroids help you heal quicker and grow quicker it doesn’t matter how much protein you put down you’re neck,6 meals a day of 30 grams of protein in a sitting whatever you would be wasting cash on food.
When you get older you produce less testosterone have less energy muscle shrinks skin sags,they have done trials in America that have proved that testosterone therapy in men over a certain age has improved overall health given them more energy and stable muscle mass.
The protein consumption you are talking about consuming would only be beneficial to someone taking anabolic steroids,otherwise you might as well burn pound notes on food and tubs of nothing more than milkshakes.
Real creatine costs a fourtune not 40/50 quid a tub.
i dont take creatine(it never did anything for me),i dont drink protein shakes(i cant stand them anymore)i eat the odd protein bar but most of my protein comes from real food.i love food so i dont see it as "wasting money"..... ;D
personally i think whey protein powder is powerful marketing hype,basically its processed junk.......your much better off eating real food,the more wholesome the better.....
the only supplements i take are fish oil,glucosamine and a multi vit/mineral tablet these days.....
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You’ve probably burnt fat and toned your muscles to the eye you look bigger,when bodybuilders go on stage they are a lot lot smaller but the body fat percentage is a hell of a lot lower ie under 10%,with that kind of body fat or even at a slightly higher percentage you’ll look bigger to the eye.
You could be a bodybuilder at 16 stone off season start eating rice cakes and baby food water only then the last week take diuretics get down to 13 stone and look a load bigger but you’d have next to no energy,bodybuilding even if done naturally is not going to get you fit.
I would use a cross trainer go swimming and stretch and leave the weights alone your body’s trying to tell you that,lots of weight lifters-bodybuilders can’t lift thereselves out of the armchair after years of doing it m8.
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Speedy recovery Daz.
Sounds like your on the mend 👍
You could try hanging from the pull up bar at the gym
Just dangle 😁
It’s good for shoulders and back
Weight of your body stretches you
30 seconds
I’m getting a squat rack with spotters for Xmas to go in garage
I have 6ft barbell and weight plates, already. (Gathering dust 😖)
Going to do 5x5 StrongLifts program
3 days a week
I’m same age as you, got to lose 6 inches off the belly.
Going to use kettle bell swing also
Which if done proper form is a great alternative to deadlifts
Improper form is aching lower back
Which I’ve done 😏
Strengthens kinetic chain
Aerobic and anerobic apparently if there was only one exercise you could do this is it
Lean and mean
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I do surf kayaking all year round, uses abdominal, shoulder muscles and forearms, perfect for keeping fit. Getting thrown around in the wash when the waves are rough uses more energy and is bags of unpredictable fun and exercise. No two days are ever the same so fitness is dependant on how many eskimo rolls are needed to upright oneself depending on choppiness and height of waves depending on where I surf, all good fun, beats doing weight training for staying fit and healthy.
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Sounds fun Windowswashed
Different I know but I have a white water rafting and canoe centre less than 10 minutes drive
Waltham Abbey
It was built for the 2012 olympics
Ashamed to say still haven’t been 🤦♂️
Did canoeing when I travelled 20+ years ago Australia and New Zealand
It’s great fun
As you say great exercise from the waist up 😁
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You’ve probably burnt fat and toned your muscles to the eye you look bigger,when bodybuilders go on stage they are a lot lot smaller but the body fat percentage is a hell of a lot lower ie under 10%,with that kind of body fat or even at a slightly higher percentage you’ll look bigger to the eye.
You could be a bodybuilder at 16 stone off season start eating rice cakes and baby food water only then the last week take diuretics get down to 13 stone and look a load bigger but you’d have next to no energy,bodybuilding even if done naturally is not going to get you fit.
I would use a cross trainer go swimming and stretch and leave the weights alone your body’s trying to tell you that,lots of weight lifters-bodybuilders can’t lift thereselves out of the armchair after years of doing it m8.
yep im leaving the weights alone for a few weeks now mate....just swimming,walking,cardio on the bike and of course flexibility work every day but ill be back weight training by the end of the month but not the same intensity/volume as before...
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I used to surf kayak ‘till my back went again.
Had a Mega Reflex full carbon.
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woke up at 6am itching to get out of bed and get on with the day......2 days rest has done me good.....again i got up and got straight into a hot shower,drank a glass of water then 20 mins of yoga/hamstring stretches,concentrating on my breathing and slow,steady movements before making breakfast...
back is a bit achy but not mega sore and i can stand up straight,the muscle spasms have calmed down......im off to the missus house in a bit(20 min drive)to take the dog for a walk......its a start....i dont think ill be doing much for the rest of the day though....im tempted to go to the gym this afternoon for a bit of cardio on the bike but i think ill give it a miss and go for a light swim tomorrow.....
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Good, but don’t go to the gym Daz, write this week off for recovery!
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im still taking painkillers....10 a day(4 ibuprofen/4 paracetamol/2 nefopam) 5 in the morning and 5 in the afternoon......
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im still taking painkillers....10 a day(4 ibuprofen/4 paracetamol/2 nefopam) 5 in the morning and 5 in the afternoon......
No wonder you're feeling better!! ;D
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Good, but don’t go to the gym Daz, write this week off for recovery!
i think your right there mate....i dont even think ill chance swimming either.......managed to take the dog for a 60 min walk and i was ok after the first 10 mins,back loosened up a bit but these painkillers make me feel a bit sick so was glad to get back in the warm......
its weird isnt it?i wouldnt think twice to work in this cold weather but when im off i think "its a bit cold for outdoor work!" ;D
i find myself grinning at gardeners and window cleaners (dressed up as if their going on an arctic expedition!) when im not working.....
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my foam roller is getting delivered today...i dont know whether itll do any good but it cant make it any worse!ill give it a try anyway.....
ive also found a large lumbar support band in a drawer(that fixes together with velcro)that i can wear around my waist when im back to work on monday....👍
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his best bet is swimming and cycling ,
i agree swimming and cycling is great exercise/cardio and even brisk walking is good 4 or 5 times a week but its not enough,you need resistance work too......
Daz i can tell you that all the cyclist i train do resistance training on the bike and off the bike ;) ;) ;) ;)
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I can say this honestly Daz I could not train like I did 20 odd years ago and work like I do today and workout properly with any results something would suffer,I’d have to be like you and have 15 days worth of work a month lol lol.
At your age I don’t know what your trying to achieve lifting weights,you won’t grow or build muscle mass for that you would need to be on about 3 different steroids.
Lifting weights it’s so easy to injure yourself if you tear and bicep-tricep or herniate a disc in your back you won’t only have to give up the weights you’ll be giving up work for longer than a few days.
actually i say i am fitter now than i was 30 years ago and i work harder,so your statement could be incorrect to a lot of people
the question on fitness is what do you class as fitness ?
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Are you taking next week off aswell Daz? Just that I was considering leafleting all your customers and explaining that you’ve jacked it in. 😂
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A piece of foam 2 foot long Daz will change you’re life m8,lower back problems more often than not come from tight hamstrings,hamstrings go in to you’re glutes and lower back putting a strain especially on you’re back.
You can also get policeman’s foot or planter tightness in the foot, it all comes from tightness in the hamstrings.
Roll the foam on the outside of your thighs too up and down what’s called the T band it also frees up lower back.
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Are you taking next week off aswell Daz? Just that I was considering leafleting all your customers and explaining that you’ve jacked it in. 😂
haha...... ;D......it wont be the first time thats happened to me!ive had various phone calls over the years off customers that have heard ive packed in due to illness!the latest one was when i was in mexico!she was adamant id phoned up telling her im too ill to clean her windows anymore......i think shes losing her marbles!ive also had other(underhand)window cleaners saying this to my customers...ive never lost a job because of it though.... ;)
ill be back to work 9am monday morning........SHARP! ;D
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A piece of foam 2 foot long Daz will change you’re life m8,lower back problems more often than not come from tight hamstrings,hamstrings go in to you’re glutes and lower back putting a strain especially on you’re back.
You can also get policeman’s foot or planter tightness in the foot, it all comes from tightness in the hamstrings.
Roll the foam on the outside of your thighs too up and down what’s called the T band it also frees up lower back.
it got delivered today at my girlfriends house..ill drive up there tomorrow and try it out(after ive took the dog for a walk).this one ive ordered isnt smooth...its got little bits on it thatll dig into my back.....
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You wan the smooth 1 the nobbly ones all they do is hurt you when you roll on them,the smooth one is more usable
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Daz when you get on that foam roller open your back by hugging yourself like your wearing a straight jacket
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I read a book called becoming a supple leopard I think you would like it also
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Since youve been off work Daz, I’ve had 19 record days on the trot and written my tickets out for tomorrow.
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You wan the smooth 1 the nobbly ones all they do is hurt you when you roll on them,the smooth one is more usable
im quite sure itll be fine mate....
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remarkably my back feels almost normal now....the best its been for months...i think the break from the gym (and work) and the stretching over the last 3 days have helped a lot......maybe it just needed the rest......
ive not took any painkillers this afternoon at all which is a good sign! :)
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Don’t be fooled into a false sense of security Daz, your back will be highly susceptible to going ping again now whilst the muscles recover, that’s what always used to happen to me. Take it easy and ease yourself back into it.
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Don’t be fooled into a false sense of security Daz, your back will be highly susceptible to going ping again now whilst the muscles recover, that’s what always used to happen to me. Take it easy and ease yourself back into it.
yeah i get what your saying mate.......no painkillers at all today......took dog out for a 60 min walk then drove to tesco to do my food shopping and its stiffened up again and is a bit achy but ok.......
ive got my foam roller now so im gonna give that a try this afternoon........
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i think when i start back on monday ill use the lumbar support band ive got and strap that around me and just use the lightest set up i can(xtreme brush,xtreme pole,carbon gooseneck)thats all i can do really.......
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Well done mummy’s little soldier!
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i think when i start back on monday ill use the lumbar support band ive got and strap that around me and just use the lightest set up i can(xtreme brush,xtreme pole,carbon gooseneck)thats all i can do really.......
My back specialist at the time i was having problems told me that these lumber supports etc are not advised as an all day support as yes they will support your back to a degree but they are taking away the opportunity for the appropriate muscles to strengthen which is what you really need. Ok for 5-10 mins (say like lifting heavy weights) but not really for anything longer.
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i think when i start back on monday ill use the lumbar support band ive got and strap that around me and just use the lightest set up i can(xtreme brush,xtreme pole,carbon gooseneck)thats all i can do really.......
My back specialist at the time i was having problems told me that these lumber supports etc are not advised as an all day support as yes they will support your back to a degree but they are taking away the opportunity for the appropriate muscles to strengthen which is what you really need. Ok for 5-10 mins (say like lifting heavy weights) but not really for anything longer.
i had to relent this afternoon and take some codeine and ibuprofen again,not took any since yesterday morning......i got up from my desk chair before and i couldnt stand up straight again,back too stiff and achy,so hot water bottle on it and massaged it again.....its starting to p*** me right off now! >:(
if a lumbar support will get me to work on monday morning then ill wear it all day while poling........ ;D
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Well done mummy’s little soldier!
;D ;D
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Don’t be fooled into a false sense of security Daz, your back will be highly susceptible to going ping again now whilst the muscles recover, that’s what always used to happen to me. Take it easy and ease yourself back into it.
yeah i get what your saying mate.......no painkillers at all today......took dog out for a 60 min walk then drove to tesco to do my food shopping and its stiffened up again and is a bit achy but ok.......
ive got my foam roller now so im gonna give that a try this afternoon........
Tesco!!!!
I would of thought you'd be a waitrose man Daz ;D
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Daz, when you take the dog for a walk, does he bend down and pick his own poo up?
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Hi Daz,
Last Friday night I ‘slipped a disc’ it’s happened to me 4 times. Agony.
When it happens I can’t move well, and the slightest flex in the spine is very painful. It usually (and strangely) gets better about 48 hours later. By better, I mean I can move around more. It can take weeks to get fully better, and in fact I’ve had it hurt for months on end before.
Personally, I’ve come to the conclusion that it isn’t work related. Now bare with me....
I think if you are carrying any family stress or tension, it can affect your back. Doctors are starting to cotton on to the emotion-body connection.
I have noted over the years that my back suffers when I’m stressed. My back first went when my dad came back into my life, and the stress that went with it. He’s a major alcoholic, almost died twice.
Since then, my back only suffers when emotions are running high and I’m not keeping on top of them.
Of course, sometimes it can be purely physical, I don’t doubt that. But just bare it mind it might be more than that. I only say this as you had a family meal.
Hope it gets better soon mate!
If it’s disc related, then no amount of massage will help. I spent £££ on physio and massage, but that only helps the muscles.
Keep on top of emotions, and stress. Keep on top of your health (which you do) and it should pass.
I agree with this.
The mind and the body are connected. Mental stress / pain manifests in the body. Pain comes out in different places depending on the person. My had back issues when i was stuck in a job i hated with an not a very nice person of an employer who paid peanuts.
When I got out of there, my back issues went.....coincidence?
Thats when I learned the mind / body connection.
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It’s defo true Hank. As said, doctors now ask about your metal state with many diseases and chronic issues.
But of course, Daz probably just did his back in deadlifting, if he’s feeling all good on the mental side.
I’d get back ache living in a flat in the middle of moss side. 😁
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Personally Im of the opinion Daz’s back went into spasm when he found out PF’s diesel heaters were about to hit the marketplace.
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Loving the foam roller.....£10 off Amazon......its the next best thing to a sports massage...👍
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Any chance of a video of you playing drums Dazmond?👍
Just got daughter an Alesis mesh kit for xmas (she's a beginner). Can you point me in the right direction for good online resources Daz? Or any tips at all?🙂
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Any chance of a video of you playing drums Dazmond?👍
Just got daughter an Alesis mesh kit for xmas (she's a beginner). Can you point me in the right direction for good online resources Daz? Or any tips at all?🙂
drumeo(google it)......very good for anybody who wants to learn the basics(plus great for guys like me too as we all never stop learning!)..hope that helps... ;)
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the real beauty of playing drums is playing with other musicians.....but for starters she ll need to learn the basic drum rudiments(flams and paradiddles)and counting(basic rock beat,shuffle groove,triplets,single and double stroke rolls,etc)id recommend a few drum lessons off a local drum teacher then practice,practice,practice and drumming along with headphones on to her favourite music....she ll love it...... :)
good luck!
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Thanks for that👍, I'll have a look. I do intend to get her some physical lessons for sure. I have played guitar for almost 30 years and use high quality backing tracks- unfortunately I know nothing about drums!!😄
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Daz, i trained for years with heavy weights and often ended up with a bad back and other joints. My back isn't perfect but so much better than it was, i still train but not as heavy (more reps) and do more stretching than ive ever done along with more exercises to strengthen my mid section and lower back.
Unfortunately as we get older we cant do what we used to (i'm 53 now). I would say rest up until your back is feeling better and then stretch more as mentioned. Your work is more important than throwing a few weights around....
Good luck fella
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Daz, i trained for years with heavy weights and often ended up with a bad back and other joints. My back isn't perfect but so much better than it was, i still train but not as heavy (more reps) and do more stretching than ive ever done along with more exercises to strengthen my mid section and lower back.
Unfortunately as we get older we cant do what we used to (i'm 53 now). I would say rest up until your back is feeling better and then stretch more as mentioned. Your work is more important than throwing a few weights around....
Good luck fella
cheers steve......yes its a fine line between getting enough volume/intensity/weight into my workouts without doing myself in...yes its bad that i couldnt work this week but ive also let the lads down for the gig we should of done last night as we all were looking forward to it.we ve been playing great the last 2 gigs...really got our mojo back!
its been a week since i last went to the gym but im hoping to get there this monday evening for stretching and cardio work only.....
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What do you call a bloke who hangs around with musicians,the drummer lol lol.
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What do you call a bloke who hangs around with musicians,the drummer lol lol.
never heard that one before nigel? ::)roll ;D
what did the drummer call his twin daughters?
....Anna 1 Anna 2........
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worked 10am-330pm.....fine....no lumbar support.....back slightly achy this afternoon but nothing too bad...no painkillers either! :)
no weight training again this week though.....just stretching and foam rolling..👍.....might do a bit of cardio later on in the week on the bike...
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i feel like my back has healed now...im totally fine..eating a steady 150-200g of protein a day has helped i reckon...im tempted to go back to the gym for a bit of light weight training but im going to give myself a full 2 weeks off until next monday before easing myself back into my training.... :)
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i feel like my back has healed now...im totally fine..eating a steady 150-200g of protein a day has helped i reckon...im tempted to go back to the gym for a bit of light weight training but im going to give myself a full 2 weeks off until next monday before easing myself back into my training.... :)
Good to hear Daz, but don’t be silly, the protein wouldn’t have made any difference what so ever, the body heals weather you eat 40 chickens a day not mate 👍🏼
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Any chance of a video of you playing drums Dazmond?👍
Just got daughter an Alesis mesh kit for xmas (she's a beginner). Can you point me in the right direction for good online resources Daz? Or any tips at all?🙂
https://vimeo.com/62839747#t=50s
Press Play! ;D
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Any chance of a video of you playing drums Dazmond?👍
Just got daughter an Alesis mesh kit for xmas (she's a beginner). Can you point me in the right direction for good online resources Daz? Or any tips at all?🙂
https://vimeo.com/62839747#t=50s
Press Play! ;D
That's Daz all pumped up on protein!!
😄😄
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i feel like my back has healed now...im totally fine..eating a steady 150-200g of protein a day has helped i reckon...im tempted to go back to the gym for a bit of light weight training but im going to give myself a full 2 weeks off until next monday before easing myself back into my training.... :)
Good to hear Daz, but don’t be silly, the protein wouldn’t have made any difference what so ever, the body heals weather you eat 40 chickens a day not mate 👍🏼
of course it makes a difference....your body heals quicker with a higher protein diet...esp a big guy like me.......protein helps your muscles repair the damage
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i feel like my back has healed now...im totally fine..eating a steady 150-200g of protein a day has helped i reckon...im tempted to go back to the gym for a bit of light weight training but im going to give myself a full 2 weeks off until next monday before easing myself back into my training.... :)
Good to hear Daz, but don’t be silly, the protein wouldn’t have made any difference what so ever, the body heals weather you eat 40 chickens a day not mate 👍🏼
of course it makes a difference....your body heals quicker with a higher protein diet...esp a big guy like me.......protein helps your muscles repair the damage
Yeah for hypotrophy and of course general maintenance of the body and muscles,
but what I’m saying is, whether you’d eaten more than the average daily amount of protein or not, you still would healed up the same 👍🏼
You get enough protein in your diet as it is for healing...I can’t imagine you’d be lacking it!
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Complete nonsense to a point protein does so much,do you think serious people that lift weights rely on protein alone lol.
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Complete nonsense to a point protein does so much,do you think serious people that lift weights rely on protein alone lol.
i didnt say that nigel....i eat around 350g carbs and 90g fat a day too ;D
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I used to surf kayak ‘till my back went again.
Had a Mega Reflex full carbon.
It's wicked surf kayaking, I have a carbon Mega Megatron for surfing as they sit on the waves rather than in the water and a NDK explorer sea kayak 17 and a half feet long for exploring the coastline which I wouldn't part with until I'm too old to heist it up on the roof of the van
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Nice, plenty of volume in the back too. I used to surf Croyde and Saunton and Freshwater West. The fun started to go out of it when the board surfers always wanted to pick a fight 😳
Used to surf Kimmeridge Bay in a playboat too.
Wish I could turn the clock back (several years).
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Before I started window cleaning I suffered for years with a lower bad back and sciatica caused by disc prolapses. I even had an operation which was only partly successful. I’ve only ever done wfp and when I first started 8 years ago it was hard going and I felt like giving up many times. But I kept going, gradually building up my round and before long I wasn’t getting any pain at all and I have had no back problems since.
I can only put this down to the muscles in my back being strengthened and general daily excersise you get from wfp cleaning.
My advice to to anyone getting back pain would be to take some time off and rest till the pain is reduced, Don’t try to carry on with painkillers as this can make things worse. Gentle stretching excersises help a lot also (loads of advise online about which excersises are best)
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Before I started window cleaning I suffered for years with a lower bad back and sciatica caused by disc prolapses. I even had an operation which was only partly successful. I’ve only ever done wfp and when I first started 8 years ago it was hard going and I felt like giving up many times. But I kept going, gradually building up my round and before long I wasn’t getting any pain at all and I have had no back problems since.
I can only put this down to the muscles in my back being strengthened and general daily excersise you get from wfp cleaning.
My advice to to anyone getting back pain would be to take some time off and rest till the pain is reduced, Don’t try to carry on with painkillers as this can make things worse. Gentle stretching excersises help a lot also (loads of advise online about which excersises are best)
Yes this is what i did...i took a full week off from window cleaning,gym and drumming and it's ok now...
I've never had a prolapsed disc though and I've never suffered with sciatica thankfully.....but I still need to be careful....back at the gym tomorrow after a full 2 weeks off......👍🙂