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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: harleyman on October 03, 2019, 08:51:33 am
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I have been doing a bit of an experiment lately through boredom sad I know. I have been trying all the various brushes I have bought. all of them in good order right up to the latest model in my humble opinion I think it is a placebo all these changes of brushes I have tried different scenarios and all have produced the same results I even dug one out of the shed I made years ago out of a Bissell brush I bought from asda many years ago for a couple of quid same results ,clean glass. granted no sill brush .only reason I still buy shop bought brushes is it looks more professional . just wondered if any body thinks the same,
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I've tried various brushes and now only use extreme they are very light and I find them more than capable even on first cleans. On maintenance work I think they are unbeatable I'm ordering another couple today. I didn't like the ones with the natural bristles though I thought it was like pushing a damp sponge round the glass, to much resistance on certain jobs for me. ;D
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I have to be honest I have not tried a natural bristle only because I could not find one so that's next on my list
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Been saying this for years, all I use is xtreme brushes, and wide brushes for commercial.
There is never a day where I think ‘man, i wish I had a ultimate, or supreme etc etc’
The xtreme does everything perfectly for me, from maintenance cleans to first cleans.
I do like a wide brush for some of my commercial work, but that’s based on the extra coverage, not scrubbing power.
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I think we may be going slightly of topic what I am trying to say is I personally don't think it matters what brush it is, I m o I get just the same result no matter what I use. others will say other wise.
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I think we may be going slightly of topic what I am trying to say is I personally don't think it matters what brush it is, I m o I get just the same result no matter what I use. others will say other wise.
I use extremes mostly 95% of the time.
I also have more heavily bristled brushes like tucker dual trim and the boar hair version.
I have to disagree with you, I find different brushes are best for different types of window. I like a natural fibre brush for hydrophobic glass, if you drag it slowly you can see if there are any marks left on the glass.
Different bristles remove different things better, you wouldn't want to try and get off a 1/4" seagull slop that's been baked on the glass for 6 months with an extreme (although it would remove it eventually, you would have to do a lot of soaking), you would be better off with a weighty stiff brush.
Nylon bristle are not very good with snail trails.
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I've tried various brushes and now only use extreme they are very light and I find them more than capable even on first cleans. On maintenance work I think they are unbeatable I'm ordering another couple today. I didn't like the ones with the natural bristles though I thought it was like pushing a damp sponge round the glass, to much resistance on certain jobs for me. ;D
I prefer them, and they're being discontinued too.
I use the new TaperTec's a lot but am still not sure about the scrubbing power, they are definitely not as good on snail trails.
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I e. bird shyte use the attachment that fits to poll that has the green scrub problem solved.
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I have to be honest I have not tried a natural bristle only because I could not find one so that's next on my list
Gardiners are stopping doing the natural bristle, the only other natural bristle (not boar hair, which is easily found) is from WCW the phantom brush which is a shady version of the tucker. I have owned both and the phantom was given away, useless.
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ill skip the idea of a natural brush .
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I've tried various brushes and now only use extreme they are very light and I find them more than capable even on first cleans. On maintenance work I think they are unbeatable I'm ordering another couple today. I didn't like the ones with the natural bristles though I thought it was like pushing a damp sponge round the glass, to much resistance on certain jobs for me. ;D
Exactly the same. ;D
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Extreme flocked sill is very good.
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In my experience light weight brushes will not clean a window as well as a brush full of bristles
Xline or wcw DuPoint brush gave supreme scrubbing power on snail trails
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In my experience light weight brushes will not clean a window as well as a brush full of bristles
Xline or wcw DuPoint brush gave supreme scrubbing power on snail trails
I used to think that but was pleasantly surprised at how well the extreme hybrid (with natural bristles) worked. This version is discontinued, but I found the extreme flocked sill cleans very well.
With the extreme I think what helps is the bristles are shorter so hold their shape better, meaning they scrub better (the more a bristle splays the less it scrubs).
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In my experience light weight brushes will not clean a window as well as a brush full of bristles
Xline or wcw DuPoint brush gave supreme scrubbing power on snail trails
Totally agree. Xline evo lite are the bees knees.
The best brushes are those that squeeze ss many bristles as possible into a stock whilst remaining fairly lightweight.
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Sometimes we can try and fool ourselves into believing something because we want it to be true, ie - extreme brushes clean just as well as heavier and denser brushes.
In my experience extremes are ok, but to work as fast and efficient as possible, I need a larger brush. Supreme is my brush of choice. It also lets you clean the sills which extreme brushes don’t really do.
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Sometimes we can try and fool ourselves into believing something because we want it to be true, ie - extreme brushes clean just as well as heavier and denser brushes.
In my experience extremes are ok, but to work as fast and efficient as possible, I need a larger brush. Supreme is my brush of choice. It also lets you clean the sills which extreme brushes don’t really do.
I agree, just thrown my extreme away, although very light it wore out too quickly. Put an old supreme on and the difference was significant.
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‘Stop in the name of love!’ Don’t talk to me about the Supremes.
‘Where did your love go?’ I know, ‘Up the ladder to the roof?’
‘Things are changing’ you know, ‘Some things you never get used to’ but ‘I’ll try something new’ I use them in ‘Bad weather’ you should see the ‘Reflections’
I looked at my Xtreme brush hanging in the van, all I could think was .......................
‘Someday we’ll be together!’
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Sometimes we can try and fool ourselves into believing something because we want it to be true, ie - extreme brushes clean just as well as heavier and denser brushes.
In my experience extremes are ok, but to work as fast and efficient as possible, I need a larger brush. Supreme is my brush of choice. It also lets you clean the sills which extreme brushes don’t really do.
To work as fast and efficient as possible, and to be able to sustain that without collateral damage you want an extreme.
We are all different, when I go to work I go "hard" for 6-8 hours. If I do that with my tucker brush at 300g then I'll feel it at the end of the day. I suffer so much less pain with extremes.
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Sometimes we can try and fool ourselves into believing something because we want it to be true, ie - extreme brushes clean just as well as heavier and denser brushes.
In my experience extremes are ok, but to work as fast and efficient as possible, I need a larger brush. Supreme is my brush of choice. It also lets you clean the sills which extreme brushes don’t really do.
I agree, just thrown my extreme away, although very light it wore out too quickly. Put an old supreme on and the difference was significant.
I don't know how people are going through brushes so fast, my last extreme hybrid was like new for 12 months.
Some people must be quite literally leaning on the pole when scrubbing, what a waste of effort, equipment and joints.
You have to work with the water, its dissolution properties are the single most effective part of window cleaning. I live on the coast and some parts of my round are terrible, like 4 weekly first cleans. When I used to come across a bad bird muck or similar I used to scrub away like a man possessed, now I do nothing! I simply squirt a bit of water on it and let the water do the work when I return it'll come off easily. If not I carry a waist bag with some abrasives and a scraper, I find mindless scrubbing away at a bird muck a bad idea.
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“We are all different, when I go to work I go "hard" for 6-8 hours. If I do that with my tucker brush at 300g then I'll feel it at the end of the day. I suffer so much less pain with extremes.”
I used to get that twenty years ago.
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When I started out, I used an SLX22, carbon gooseneck and Gardiners standard sill brush; what a lovely combination that was.
But then...depression set in, along with 'Tennis Elbow' and despite all my best efforts to find a cure, the only temporary relief, was to spend time with my friend 'Jack Daniels'.
Happy days are here again now with Xtreme poles and brushes (and no more pain).
First cleans, Xtreme stiff and some chemicals, never a problem and fairly quick. 8 weekly maintenance cleans, Xtreme with the tapertec bristles (very clever brush). Diamond lead, the new Xtreme flocked sill brush is good. I didn't like the bottom row of bristles that angle straight down, so I pulled them out, much better brush for me now. I shall purchase the new Xtreme medium sill brush soon and no doubt remove some bristles from that too. Fascias and soffits etc, I have an original Xtreme flocked brush that I found in my garage with fan jets. I might try the 12cm brush.
Having said all that, I purchased an Ultimate medium mixed and it's a great brush. I thought I would try it on bungalows and although it is excellent, I keep going back to my Xtreme tapertec brush, because it's quicker and does a great job. Also, I find the best brush on leaded, by far, is the Supreme flocked, but it's a bit heavy for me to use for long periods. So I got my drill out and drilled loads of holes into the back of the stock, to remove some of plastic and reduce the weight. (A bit like the film 'Uncle Buck' where he gets his drill out) ;D
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That bottom row of bristles you remove is very useful for cleaning velux windows etc, especially when using a carbon gooseneck.
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That bottom row of bristles you remove is very useful for cleaning velux windows etc, especially when using a carbon gooseneck.
Yep.....I've found that too....they are also good for wiping upper sills in tight spaces.....excellent brush......I certainly wouldn't be ripping them out...