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Title: Stuck fast- quick loq in Slx
Post by: lee_dewing on August 28, 2019, 08:39:39 pm
As heading

Got one of these stuck in slx

https://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/all-products/water-fed-poles/goosenecks-pole-fittings/plastic-gooseneck-system/quick-loq-resi-neck-type1.html

Any idea how to get out🤔

Happened once before managed to get out brute force

Kept greased but forgot and now stuck fast

feel it’s gonna break 🙆🏻‍♂️ As brute force not doing it

A real design floor I feel
Maybe it’s just me 😐

Help anyone 😣

Title: Re: Stuck fast- quick loq in Slx
Post by: Alex Gardiner on August 28, 2019, 08:58:27 pm
To release

Rod method:
You will need a length of metal tube (such as a length of 15mm copper pipe or similar) or a thin wooden rod. There are two possible techniques:
Hammer
Slide a metal tube or rod up the inside of the #1 section and ensure that it is at least 15cm longer than the section.
Hold the #1 section firmly.
Then with a hammer or mallet - impact the end of the metal tube/rod to force the gooseneck out.

Slide Down
Slide a metal tube or rod up the inside of the #1 section and ensure that it is at least 15cm longer than the section.
Rest the base of the metal tube/rod on a hard surface that does not matter if it gets marked (so not your new vinyl kitchen floor!)
Holding the #1 section, firmly slide it up off the metal tube/rod by about 1-2ft and then slide it down very hard and fast so that the metal tube/rod will push out the gooseneck.

Once free give our team a call on 01726 66400 or email on sales@gardinerpolesystems.co.uk & we can sort out a replacement base part for you.

Any problems doing this give us a call and we can assist further.
Title: Re: Stuck fast- quick loq in Slx
Post by: CleanClear on August 28, 2019, 11:39:04 pm
Get some molegrips lightly clamped around the clamp that holds the quick loc in. Just enougth to grip it and not so much to squeeze or distort it, and another pair of molegrips across the quickloc to twist and pull it.
Title: Re: Stuck fast- quick loq in Slx
Post by: Phil J on August 29, 2019, 07:38:21 am
Totally agree Lee,
It happens to us all the time, even with brand new equipment. We spray it with PTFE spray and usually two men can pull it apart. A definite design fault that needs addressing. 
Title: Re: Stuck fast- quick loq in Slx
Post by: Smudger on August 29, 2019, 08:15:02 am
where's H-man when you need him................ ;D
Title: Re: Stuck fast- quick loq in Slx
Post by: Bungle on August 29, 2019, 08:21:27 am
Totally agree Lee,
It happens to us all the time, even with brand new equipment. We spray it with PTFE spray and usually two men can pull it apart. A definite design fault that needs addressing.

Agree, it seems the problem is the newer goosenecks. It always seems to happen when the weather is warm. When it’s cold there’s never a problem getting the neck out. The plastic is expanding in hotter weather.

It’s all very well telling us how to get a stuck one out but why should we have to do this in the first place?

Design fault.
Title: Re: Stuck fast- quick loq in Slx
Post by: Slacky on August 29, 2019, 08:50:14 am
where's H-man when you need him................ ;D

Re-laying his new vinyl kitchen floor.
Title: Re: Stuck fast- quick loq in Slx
Post by: lee_dewing on August 29, 2019, 03:45:41 pm
Ok Alex

Thanks Fella’s

Will try at the weekend when not working

I preferred the aluminium tube collar that had threaded end

But not right clamp to brush fitting

So using mentioned quick loq clamp


All good fun 🙆🏻‍♂️🙆🏻‍♂️
Title: Re: Stuck fast- quick loq in Slx
Post by: lee_dewing on August 29, 2019, 03:48:04 pm
Forgot to say

I want to use the new valve quick loq

The competition to univalve

But think the stem is exactly the same

As the one I’ve got stuck 🤔
Title: Re: Stuck fast- quick loq in Slx
Post by: lee_dewing on August 29, 2019, 03:48:47 pm
Sold by Gardiners

Meant to say 😆
Title: Re: Stuck fast- quick loq in Slx
Post by: Splash & dash on August 29, 2019, 03:51:08 pm
Totally agree Lee,
It happens to us all the time, even with brand new equipment. We spray it with PTFE spray and usually two men can pull it apart. A definite design fault that needs addressing.


It has been addressed ime guessing this is an old  one , haven’t had it happen in year s
Title: Re: Stuck fast- quick loq in Slx
Post by: Alex Gardiner on August 29, 2019, 04:31:14 pm
Ok Alex

Thanks Fella’s

Will try at the weekend when not working

I preferred the aluminium tube collar that had threaded end

But not right clamp to brush fitting

So using mentioned quick loq clamp


All good fun 🙆🏻‍♂️🙆🏻‍♂️

Let me know how you get on  :)

I have checked your account and it appears that the gooseneck must be from the one supplied with the SLX25 back in October 2016 - does that sound correct?

The newer versions look like this:

(https://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/473x473/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/g/o/gooseneck_base_part.jpg)
Title: Re: Stuck fast- quick loq in Slx
Post by: lee_dewing on August 29, 2019, 07:05:33 pm
Hello Alex

Yeh sounds right

What’s the difference?

Is it slots in bottom ?

 I must have no slots
Air tight, can’t see 😆

Is that the design on your quick loq
Valve ? With slots

The 💦 water on/off  flow controller.

Thanks lee


Title: Re: Stuck fast- quick loq in Slx
Post by: Phil J on August 29, 2019, 08:29:22 pm
Totally agree Lee,
It happens to us all the time, even with brand new equipment. We spray it with PTFE spray and usually two men can pull it apart. A definite design fault that needs addressing.


It has been addressed ime guessing this is an old  one , haven’t had it happen in year s
Hey Splash, not at all, bought an SLX 18 and 22 in the last six months and both have been a problem to remove.
Title: Re: Stuck fast- quick loq in Slx
Post by: p1w1 on August 29, 2019, 08:40:27 pm
I would presume that these parts are injection moulded, so think this is more of a manufacturing issue then a design flaw.  With the machine making the odd dud part.
Title: Re: Stuck fast- quick loq in Slx
Post by: Alex Gardiner on August 29, 2019, 09:30:50 pm
Hello Alex

Yeh sounds right

What’s the difference?

Is it slots in bottom ?

 I must have no slots
Air tight, can’t see 😆

Is that the design on your quick loq
Valve ? With slots

The 💦 water on/off  flow controller.

Thanks lee

It is the slotted design - this allows for moisture absorption and the expansion from this and heat.

The gooseneck valve (shown below) has a similar base part design as well.

(https://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/473x473/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/g/o/gooseneck_valve_v2_1200.jpg)
Title: Re: Stuck fast- quick loq in Slx
Post by: Alex Gardiner on August 29, 2019, 09:33:23 pm
Hey Splash, not at all, bought an SLX 18 and 22 in the last six months and both have been a problem to remove.

Hi Phil J

Which design base sections did these items have - grooved or non-grooved? Drop us an email on sales@gardinerpolesystems.co.uk and we can help sort this out for you  :)
Title: Re: Stuck fast- quick loq in Slx
Post by: Alex Gardiner on August 29, 2019, 09:35:32 pm
I would presume that these parts are injection moulded, so think this is more of a manufacturing issue then a design flaw.  With the machine making the odd dud part.

The parts are injection moulded - this can lead to tolerance variation which is why even with water absorption and heat some clients never have this issue and some others do.

Changing the design is to try and ensure that even with tolerance variation, heat & moisture that the majority of parts will stay fully compatible in all situations  :)
Title: Re: Stuck fast- quick loq in Slx
Post by: stevieg on September 06, 2019, 07:21:05 am
I had to use a belt sander to reduce the dimensions on all of mine!! Put them in a vice to hold and take off enough so that there is plenty of movement when male part is pushed into female bit.
Title: Re: Stuck fast- quick loq in Slx
Post by: Alex Gardiner on September 06, 2019, 08:02:19 am
I had to use a belt sander to reduce the dimensions on all of mine!! Put them in a vice to hold and take off enough so that there is plenty of movement when male part is pushed into female bit.

That is a solution  :)

Or we could have supplied you with a new base part - let us know next time  :)
Title: Re: Stuck fast- quick loq in Slx
Post by: Ooooooog on September 06, 2019, 09:48:49 pm
Are they tapered? If not, would they release a little easier if they had a small degree taper? If they still clamped in tight, that is.