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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: H MAN on August 09, 2019, 12:22:05 am

Title: I'd ask everyone a question for a change.
Post by: H MAN on August 09, 2019, 12:22:05 am
Thought I'd ask everyone  a question  for a change.
Know there are a few devices that help lift poles to help take the weight of the poles as you use them.
Although from what can see they are mostly high even look as though it might catch over head.
And as some people have said they look ridicules ,not cool etc.
So asking if there was a device to lift poles what would you like it to have in way of looking better.
While not having all over head stuff on it?
Anyone thoughts??

Title: Re: I'd ask everyone a question for a change.
Post by: Dave Willis on August 09, 2019, 06:48:34 am
Have you been on the amber nectar??
Title: Re: I'd ask everyone a question for a change.
Post by: H MAN on August 09, 2019, 07:08:38 am
Have you been on the amber nectar??
HAHAHAHA Can't I ask a question like to know what other people think about this subject.  ::)roll ;D

Title: Re: I'd ask everyone a question for a change.
Post by: Dave Willis on August 09, 2019, 07:20:10 am
I think you need to be clearer  ???

Do you mean the handles Gardiners have for their top of the range poles? Came out a couple of years back. I’ve never seen anyone use them.
Ultimate control bars.

If so, then I’d say most of us don’t need them. I think they are meant for the really high reach stuff probably fifty feet or more. I don’t need them and couldn’t be bothered to fit them/ remove them for storage.
Title: Re: I'd ask everyone a question for a change.
Post by: SB Cleaning on August 09, 2019, 07:34:24 am
Have you been on the amber nectar??
Or the wacky backy :D
Title: Re: I'd ask everyone a question for a change.
Post by: H MAN on August 09, 2019, 07:35:37 am
I think you need to be clearer  ???

Do you mean the handles Gardiners have for their top of the range poles? Came out a couple of years back. I’ve never seen anyone use them.
Ultimate control bars.
No but know what you talking about.
This is what it's about below video has anyone seen anything better then this to help lift poles to make it easier to use poles.
 This video is in Dutch so you might want turn the volume down when looking at it.
But gives you an idea what it's about.
So has anyone seen anything better that does the same thing.
https://youtu.be/jGZbTAiYF3E
Title: Re: I'd ask everyone a question for a change.
Post by: Slacky on August 09, 2019, 07:41:38 am
I’ve always been of the opinion a couple of arms help.
Title: Re: I'd ask everyone a question for a change.
Post by: H MAN on August 09, 2019, 08:32:27 am
I think you need to be clearer  ???

Do you mean the handles Gardiners have for their top of the range poles? Came out a couple of years back. I’ve never seen anyone use them.
Ultimate control bars.

If so, then I’d say most of us don’t need them. I think they are meant for the really high reach stuff probably fifty feet or more. I don’t need them and couldn’t be bothered to fit them/ remove them for storage.
To be clear you are talking about what they called  Pole Control bars??
Like in this Video???
https://youtu.be/tLUTQv8twBM

If it is here one looks similar works a bit differently but manly used for trad .
Same concept though.
https://youtu.be/s4rSq4PyuEA
.
Title: Re: I'd ask everyone a question for a change.
Post by: H MAN on August 09, 2019, 01:44:46 pm
So anyway getting back on the subject at hand.
Does anyone know of any other device that would help in lifting the pole?
Title: Re: I'd ask everyone a question for a change.
Post by: Stoots on August 09, 2019, 02:54:08 pm
95% of us will be residential cleaners with maybe the odd commercial job

Its just not needed in the U.K except for maybe a select few who do high rise work and i suspect abseiling would be a better option at that height

Title: Re: I'd ask everyone a question for a change.
Post by: Splash & dash on August 09, 2019, 03:30:30 pm
We regularly use a pole at 8 floors and don’t have a problem holding it , I do a full mornings work like that without any problem, once you are used it it it’s ok , but a different technique is required  .
Title: Re: I'd ask everyone a question for a change.
Post by: Shrek on August 09, 2019, 04:27:10 pm
We regularly use a pole at 8 floors and don’t have a problem holding it , I do a full mornings work like that without any problem, once you are used it it it’s ok , but a different technique is required  .

Can you see the bird poo/bee/fly crap on the eighth floor windows from the ground?
Iv always wondered how you can do a quality job that high up  🤔
Title: Re: I'd ask everyone a question for a change.
Post by: H MAN on August 09, 2019, 11:48:28 pm
We regularly use a pole at 8 floors and don’t have a problem holding it , I do a full mornings work like that without any problem, once you are used it it it’s ok , but a different technique is required  .
Not talking about how the pole is held.
But lifting the pole UP/DOWN to scrub the glass.
Asking is the a better solution to this, then the device in this video.
https://youtu.be/jGZbTAiYF3E
Title: Re: I'd ask everyone a question for a change.
Post by: Slacky on August 09, 2019, 11:53:27 pm
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1565391205_0B63477C-457B-4365-9569-DC57BB40A520.jpeg)
Title: Re: I'd ask everyone a question for a change.
Post by: P @ F on August 10, 2019, 12:51:46 am
That’s been out for years H Man , tell me you haven’t gone and made one out of  melted orange plastic pipe !
Or have you 🤣🤣🤣
Title: Re: I'd ask everyone a question for a change.
Post by: H MAN on August 10, 2019, 12:58:18 am
That’s been out for years H Man , tell me you haven’t gone and made one out of  melted orange plastic pipe !
Or have you 🤣🤣🤣
Yes your right it has been out for years.
All was asking is there anything better that does the same thing.
Title: Re: I'd ask everyone a question for a change.
Post by: P @ F on August 10, 2019, 01:04:19 am
No mate , as far as I am aware , in order for something to lift the pole for you it usually has to be above you , so I guess you could say...........
  “ WELL , THAT’S ABOUT IT “ 
Title: Re: I'd ask everyone a question for a change.
Post by: H MAN on August 10, 2019, 01:07:13 am
No mate , as far as I am aware , in order for something to lift the pole for you it usually has to be above you , so I guess you could say...........
  “ WELL , THAT’S ABOUT IT “
Why is it necessary to be above you??

Title: Re: I'd ask everyone a question for a change.
Post by: P @ F on August 10, 2019, 01:23:16 am
In your OP you said lift the pole , should you then not have said raise
Title: Re: I'd ask everyone a question for a change.
Post by: H MAN on August 10, 2019, 01:28:40 am
In your OP you said lift the pole , should you then not have said raise
But there are different ways to do this without have set ups like in the video.
Title: Re: I'd ask everyone a question for a change.
Post by: nathankaye on August 10, 2019, 08:49:38 am
Could it be, because it's more cost effective to design and  build.
The simple thing as the quic loq has taken years before it has made any money due to the high costs involved in the making/designing of it.  Could this be why the crane works because its easier to manufacture.
Also why ask if we know any manufacturers to help, it sounds like your making the same mistakes again.
Make your prototype, test it,  refine it and when you have a working refined prototype get a patent and then search out your manufacturer.
All the best and I hope this works for you and then you can stop posting the rubbish that you have 👍
Title: Re: I'd ask everyone a question for a change.
Post by: Ralphie on August 10, 2019, 02:51:31 pm
A device similar to a flag bearer has around his neck to take the wait of the flag pole.

It is unfortunately the shape of a manquinee but instead of a sack bag it would have a holder for the end of the wfp.

I believe this would assist in keeping ones pole erect whilst moving from window to window without the need for pole reduction.

(Whilst I am totally serious about the above it did make me chuckle). 😂
Title: Re: I'd ask everyone a question for a change.
Post by: H MAN on August 11, 2019, 04:07:13 am
Could it be, because it's more cost effective to design and  build.
The simple thing as the quic loq has taken years before it has made any money due to the high costs involved in the making/designing of it.  Could this be why the crane works because its easier to manufacture.
Also why ask if we know any manufacturers to help, it sounds like your making the same mistakes again.
Make your prototype, test it,  refine it and when you have a working refined prototype get a patent and then search out your manufacturer.
All the best and I hope this works for you and then you can stop posting the rubbish that you have 👍
(Make your prototype, test it,  refine it and when you have a working refined prototype get a patent and then search out your manufacturer.)
OK I'm there already looking for manufacturer.
May of worded it not right.

Title: Re: I'd ask everyone a question for a change.
Post by: Ralphie on August 11, 2019, 07:44:48 am
So surprised a have not had any bites from my manquinee-esque erect pole holding device!!!!

Really had something their.

Never mind, back to the glass..........😩
Title: Re: I'd ask everyone a question for a change.
Post by: AuRavelling79 on August 11, 2019, 09:36:37 am
So surprised a have not had any bites from my manquinee-esque erect pole holding device!!!!

Really had something their.

Never mind, back to the glass..........😩

They'll be back - they're off in their sheds modifying their mankinis as we speak.
Title: Re: I'd ask everyone a question for a change.
Post by: Ralphie on August 11, 2019, 10:45:34 am
So surprised a have not had any bites from my manquinee-esque erect pole holding device!!!!

Really had something their.

Never mind, back to the glass..........😩

They'll be back - they're off in their sheds modifying their mankinis as we speak.

Loving the fact you know how to spell mankini.😂
Title: Re: I'd ask everyone a question for a change.
Post by: H MAN on August 11, 2019, 11:57:34 am
manquinee-esque erect pole holding device!!!!
Don't think that would be much good.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRv8gyABdigF2zQUMDT3G1CPg2utWauIWU9hcD3dk1vPS1U7BcF6w
Title: Re: I'd ask everyone a question for a change.
Post by: AuRavelling79 on August 11, 2019, 02:49:01 pm
manquinee-esque erect pole holding device!!!!
Don't think that would be much good.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRv8gyABdigF2zQUMDT3G1CPg2utWauIWU9hcD3dk1vPS1U7BcF6w

I sent you that picture in confidence H-Man!  :o
Title: Re: I'd ask everyone a question for a change.
Post by: tlwcs on August 11, 2019, 04:46:16 pm
There’s a new bird on dragons den tonight, just saying..
Tony