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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Cookie on July 28, 2019, 02:24:13 pm
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I've been cleaning this holiday let with floor to ceiling windows for the past 3 years or so (see photo). On the last couple occasions there have been small bits of grass cuttings baked onto the windows which take ages (& plenty of water) to remove. The job is taking 15 minutes + longer to complete with plenty of scrubbing & rinsing. Does anyone have any tips on how to remove these grass cuttings more quickly & easily?
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NB: I have mentioned this to the gardener and apparently he's cutting the grass no differently to before (ie: ride-on with grass box attached).
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I have found it’s when they have used a strimmer on the edges. I would wet all the panes then go back and wash the first, it does help.
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As Roy has said , just spray it with water let it soak whilst doing other windows and it comes off straight away or it dies with hot anyway
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Fit a scrubber/scraper/bronze wool pad on the reverse of the brush stock.
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I had a job like that, I told the owner that the grass is taking me longer to remove than "what I'm charging him for". I told him to ask the garden to hose it off as its using up my resources, which was costing me money. It's never happened since.
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hot water helps.....but sometime i still need to get my scraper out......its only an issue with the odd window here and there......
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hot water helps.....but sometime i still need to get my scraper out......its only an issue with the odd window here and there......
Hot waters a waste of time and money, been there done it and cold is just fine.
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hot water helps.....but sometime i still need to get my scraper out......its only an issue with the odd window here and there......
Hot waters a waste of time and money, been there done it and cold is just fine.
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at last someone speaking sense!
cold water is just as effective as hot water ITS A GIMMICK!
like parts per billion as pure water
rant over
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Have a few next to farmland so when the farmer's cutting silage they get their fair share and one in particular gets a good going over with slurry too! Like others have said a quick soak and go back to it and plenty of elbow grease, there's no magic solution.
Same thing with lifting window boxes off sills and the petals from the flowers which stick to glass etc. I'd love to be more forward and explain that their house takes x amount of mins longer over the spring/summer months but I just grin and bear it 😬
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hot water helps.....but sometime i still need to get my scraper out......its only an issue with the odd window here and there......
Hot waters a waste of time and money, been there done it and cold is just fine.
I would like to see you clean baked on seagull poo and salt off with cold and get a decent finish , it’s a scientific fact hot will clean faster and better
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hot water helps.....but sometime i still need to get my scraper out......its only an issue with the odd window here and there......
Hot waters a waste of time and money, been there done it and cold is just fine.
I would like to see you clean baked on seagull poo and salt off with cold and get a decent finish , it’s a scientific fact hot will clean faster and better
you keep telling ya self that.
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hot water helps.....but sometime i still need to get my scraper out......its only an issue with the odd window here and there......
Hot waters a waste of time and money, been there done it and cold is just fine.
I would like to see you clean baked on seagull poo and salt off with cold and get a decent finish , it’s a scientific fact hot will clean faster and better
you keep telling ya self that.
Tell you what come out with us for a day and show us how good your cold water is on costal work , if it will clean it off I’ll pay your traveling expenses , are you up for the challenge ????
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hot water helps.....but sometime i still need to get my scraper out......its only an issue with the odd window here and there......
Hot waters a waste of time and money, been there done it and cold is just fine.
I would like to see you clean baked on seagull poo and salt off with cold and get a decent finish , it’s a scientific fact hot will clean faster and better
you keep telling ya self that.
Tell you what come out with us for a day and show us how good your cold water is on costal work , if it will clean it off I’ll pay your traveling expenses , are you up for the challenge ????
Mate, I live on the coast and clean bird muck and salt off all day every day with just cold. I get a lot of work from referrals so must do a good job (I'm confident in my results). I don't spend all day doing it either I earn a good crust.
I do fancy a hot water system though if it would make life easier for me at work, I would like to try it out. Does that offer stand to anyone? If so how far are you from North Wales?
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£4.5k on an all singing and dancing hot water system and still needs a scraper on some jobs says it all, but I did think it might make a slight difference on coastal work, the problem with hot water reviews is you have the guys who overspend on it and need to see magic to justify the stupidity, the guys who do it on the cheap who tend to be more realistic, they get supple hoses and winter protection, the guys who have tried it and seen no difference and NK who is melting concrete with fish tank heaters.
Its only shiners who could make washing the dust off glass so complicated. (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1564565333_grin.gif)
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hot water helps.....but sometime i still need to get my scraper out......its only an issue with the odd window here and there......
Hot waters a waste of time and money, been there done it and cold is just fine.
I would like to see you clean baked on seagull poo and salt off with cold and get a decent finish , it’s a scientific fact hot will clean faster and better
you keep telling ya self that.
Tell you what come out with us for a day and show us how good your cold water is on costal work , if it will clean it off I’ll pay your traveling expenses , are you up for the challenge ????
Mate, I live on the coast and clean bird muck and salt off all day every day with just cold. I get a lot of work from referrals so must do a good job (I'm confident in my results). I don't spend all day doing it either I earn a good crust.
I do fancy a hot water system though if it would make life easier for me at work, I would like to try it out. Does that offer stand to anyone? If so how far are you from North Wales?
We were cold wfp for 10 years and I thought hot was a waist of time , having had hot now for 5 years I know it’s much better , quicker , jobs on wooden sash windows that were always problematic and had to be gone over a couple of times are now fine on the first going over , we do a lot of properties that are literally at the high tide line and are quite often opaque with salt , sand and sea weed on the glass , cold will do it eventually but hot will do it far quicker at a guess we are doing the jobs now in a quarter of the time and getting better results . Trust me if I had spent 5 k on a hot system and it didn’t work or was no better than cold I would be the first to say it’s no good , knowing what I know now I wish I had gone hot years ago , all my vans now have it , it costs me around £65-80 per week per van in fuel but productiverty and time saved makes it more than cost effective , , if you fancy a trip to Cornwall and can do this type of job to our standards and at the same speed as me and my staff I will pay your expenses , that’s how confidant I am that cold won’t do it , I have been there and done it for many years and realise now hot is much better , ime not talking about ones that claim to be using 60-70 degrees water using an emersion heater , we use 9 kw diesel fired units , before having a diesel boiler I tried the gas route , waist of time and dangerous, emmersion heater was ok and gave nice supple hoses but not the heat at the brush that diesel does , , also pumps arnt rated to pump water above 60 degrees , unless you insulate the tank very well it also looses heat quickly and I have 1000 ltr tanks so that will hold heat more than a smaller one
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Dangerous maybe but why would water heated by gas be any less effective than water heated by diesel ? to be fair unlike most on here at least you can give a decent reason for using hot but at the same time you can still see the I need to justify this to myself in your post, the need to put down other cheaper heating methods shows this.
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Dangerous maybe but why would water heated by gas be any less effective than water heated by diesel ? to be fair unlike most on here at least you can give a decent reason for using hot but at the same time you can still see the I need to justify this to myself in your post, the need to put down other cheaper heating methods shows this.
Ime not putting down the other methods of heating water , I said I had tried them and found diesel to be the best , gas is dangerous and keeps blowing out , 20 muinits cut out is a pain turning off gas between jobs is a pain you then have to use a hose reel full of water before it’s hot again , gas bottles unless you use the underslung tanks are bulky and should be stored in a sealed cabinet, and so the list goes on
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hot water helps.....but sometime i still need to get my scraper out......its only an issue with the odd window here and there......
Hot waters a waste of time and money, been there done it and cold is just fine.
I would like to see you clean baked on seagull poo and salt off with cold and get a decent finish , it’s a scientific fact hot will clean faster and better
you keep telling ya self that.
Tell you what come out with us for a day and show us how good your cold water is on costal work , if it will clean it off I’ll pay your traveling expenses , are you up for the challenge ????
You couldn't afford me pal ;D
I have used hot maybe not on the coast but the point remains,COLD works FINE.
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hot water helps.....but sometime i still need to get my scraper out......its only an issue with the odd window here and there......
Hot waters a waste of time and money, been there done it and cold is just fine.
I would like to see you clean baked on seagull poo and salt off with cold and get a decent finish , it’s a scientific fact hot will clean faster and better
you keep telling ya self that.
Tell you what come out with us for a day and show us how good your cold water is on costal work , if it will clean it off I’ll pay your traveling expenses , are you up for the challenge ????
You couldn't afford me pal ;D
I have used hot maybe not on the coast but the point remains,COLD works FINE.
Lol you really have no idear do you , 😂😂😂
You carry on with your cold water mate it will clean but it’s slow and stiff and freezing hoses in the winter months isn’t much fun , as I said earlier take up my offer and prove what you are saying or you are loosing credibility 😎😎😎
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loosing credibly 😎😎😎
Really? Whats 'credibly'?
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hot water helps.....but sometime i still need to get my scraper out......its only an issue with the odd window here and there......
Hot waters a waste of time and money, been there done it and cold is just fine.
I would like to see you clean baked on seagull poo and salt off with cold and get a decent finish , it’s a scientific fact hot will clean faster and better
you keep telling ya self that.
Tell you what come out with us for a day and show us how good your cold water is on costal work , if it will clean it off I’ll pay your traveling expenses , are you up for the challenge ????
You couldn't afford me pal ;D
I have used hot maybe not on the coast but the point remains,COLD works FINE.
Lol you really have no idear do you , 😂😂😂
You carry on with your cold water mate it will clean but it’s slow and stiff and freezing hoses in the winter months isn’t much fun , as I said earlier take up my offer and prove what you are saying or you are loosing credibility 😎😎😎
10 years WFP...ok I have no idea ::)roll ::)roll
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SB cleaning you stick to cold then.........i know which one i prefer...... ;D
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Wouldn't it be great if some genius did a side by side comparison?
I mean this debate has been going for ages and I for one would love to know the outcome as if hot made work even slightly easier I'm in.
If I had hot water then I would have already done the video by now. Why wouldn't the suppliers of hot water systems have done something along these lines by now? Surely some actual proof of hot water cleaning better, quicker, easier would be a massive selling point. Does make you wander?
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Wouldn't it be great if some genius did a side by side comparison?
I mean this debate has been going for ages and I for one would love to know the outcome as if hot made work even slightly easier I'm in.
If I had hot water then I would have already done the video by now. Why wouldn't the suppliers of hot water systems have done something along these lines by now? Surely some actual proof of hot water cleaning better, quicker, easier would be a massive selling point. Does make you wander?
of course hot water makes cleaning easier.....scrubbing the glass is easier,rinses better,dries quicker,lovely supple hoses...the list goes on....you can splash and dash and reduce the risk of doing a bad job too compared to cold.....i use mine all day every day even on the hottest days...in fact its most beneficial in the warmer months for cleaning power as the water is red hot.....
first cleans and add on jobs are much easier to clean with hot water,same for longer frequency rural cleans out in the countryside(i have a fair few!)...
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i fully respect those that want to stick with cold water,fair enough but its not for me anymore.....
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SB cleaning you stick to cold then.........i know which one i prefer...... ;D
Oh here we go ::)roll
Dazmond, do you really want me to bring up your old posts saying the same as me that cold is just fine ?
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Regular maintenance cleans which most of us do day in day out there is just no need for hot simple as, hows hot water going to be any better or quicker when all there is is a bit of dust to clean off usually?
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Regular maintenance cleans which most of us do day in day out there is just no need for hot simple as, hows hot water going to be any better or quicker when all there is is a bit of dust to clean off usually?
maybe not for you if you still do 2 weekly work but lots of my work is 8 weekly in semi rural/rural locations......each to their own....
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SB cleaning you stick to cold then.........i know which one i prefer...... ;D
Oh here we go ::)roll
Dazmond, do you really want me to bring up your old posts saying the same as me that cold is just fine ?
it is just fine,you can get by with cold water......but its not for me anymore mate,i prefer using hot water these days....
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i Would actually like to try hot water just to see the difference
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Regular maintenance cleans which most of us do day in day out there is just no need for hot simple as, hows hot water going to be any better or quicker when all there is is a bit of dust to clean off usually?
maybe not for you if you still do 2 weekly work but lots of my work is 8 weekly in semi rural/rural locations......each to their own....
I do 6wk and 12wk mostly in rural
Places the windows are never that bad!!
Daz you were saying exactly the same as me a couple of years ago just like you have done a u turn on many of things over the years ;D
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£4500.00 diesel heater
Gas bottles to buy regularly
Chewing expensive brushes by the score
OUCH!!!!!!!
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Regular maintenance cleans which most of us do day in day out there is just no need for hot simple as, hows hot water going to be any better or quicker when all there is is a bit of dust to clean off usually?
I don’t know where in the country you are but I can assure you we very rarely clean dusty windows , generally a typical property we do has seagull or other bird poo on several windows along with bee pollen and snail trails and other stubborn things that need removing , it would be a piece of cake if it was just dust . A lot of our work is costal and some properties ( holiday homes and holiday rental ) and shops we do on a daily basis during winter months and over night the windows are encrusted with salt and opaque you wouldn’t think they had been cleaned in 6 months but they were done the previous day , cold water will do a reasonable job but it’s painfully slow hot water desolves the salt and grime so much faster . I dont care if you and others believe this or not , it is a scientific fact that it does , it makes my working life so much easier and work far quicker , we do get quite a lot of work from other window cleaners that don’t want to do theses jobs beacause they use cold and struggle to do a good job in a reasonable amount of time and without using tons of water . Ime quite happy for ones to use cold water as I know we can do a much better job in a fraction of the time and earn a very good wage from this type of work , I am just trying to explain to open minded people the advantages of hot water, is it better than cold yes 100% , is it cheap to buy and run no , if you run a profitable buisness and or several vans working where we are it’s a no brainier , I have had several sceptical ones from this forum and another one come out with my guys for a day and they have been very surprised at what they have seen and two of them have now bought diesel 9kw heaters , hopefully they may see this and speak up ,. Each to there own but it cannot be denied that hot will clean better and quicker
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Wow, i feel so fortunate that most of my work is 4 weekly already clean windows 😱
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SB cleaning you stick to cold then.........i know which one i prefer...... ;D
No you dont, when your gas system went belly up you spent a year on here saying it made no difference, to say you where only fooling yourself shows that you dont know what end is up.
Like I have said before when it come to hot there are very few on here worth listening to.
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i Would actually like to try hot water just to see the difference
It could only make a difference if you have a problem such as spending too much time trying to scrub crud of the glass, I dont know about you but the only way I could spend any less time scrubbing the glass is to miss it altogether.
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i Would actually like to try hot water just to see the difference
It could only make a difference if you have a problem such as spending too much time trying to scrub crud of the glass, I dont know about you but the only way I could spend any less time scrubbing the glass is to miss it altogether.
The majority of my work is like that however I’m getting a lot of large houses on the books near parks/ trees with massive panes and always covered in crap even though they’re cleaned monthly
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SB cleaning you stick to cold then.........i know which one i prefer...... ;D
No you dont, when your gas system went belly up you spent a year on here saying it made no difference, to say you where only fooling yourself shows that you dont know what end is up.
Like I have said before when it come to hot there are very few on here worth listening to.
Exactly, hes full of crap ;D
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SB cleaning you stick to cold then.........i know which one i prefer...... ;D
No you dont, when your gas system went belly up you spent a year on here saying it made no difference, to say you where only fooling yourself shows that you dont know what end is up.
Like I have said before when it come to hot there are very few on here worth listening to.
Exactly, hes full of crap ;D
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I clean artwork as well as windows and plastic cleans.....hot water is great for jobs like these! ;)👍
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loosing credibly 😎😎😎
Really? Whats 'credibly'?
A believable and convincing manner.
"Loosing credibly" means letting something go in a believable and convincing manner.
"Losing credibly" means to lose (a game or an item) in a believable and convincing manner.
"Loosing credibility" means letting your credibility go free.
"Losing credibility" means to lose your credibility which is probably what S&D meant all along. 8)