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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: H MAN on July 24, 2019, 06:25:58 am
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No more faffing around with floppy swivels on your brushes, doodle bug pad holders.
The simplest swivel movement that you can use.
https://youtu.be/wZyN5JlggVw
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😴😴😴😴😴😴😴
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Did you know you can make Christmas decorations from wire coat hangers?
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Did you know you can make Christmas decorations from wire coat hangers?
It's obvious you have no idea, have you ever tried doing this??? :o ::)roll ???
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yes - when I was seven - and you ?
Darran
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Although this is nothing new here's a few video did before Gardiner even thought to do this.
CLOSER LOOK NEW WATER FED BRUSH SWIVEL
https://youtu.be/MTfeUn_AGZM
WAGTAIL SQUEEGEE HANDLE FITTED ON SWIVEL
https://youtu.be/uakV_i4y3aU
DIY BEST SWIVEL WFP BRUSH USING OLD WAGTAIL DISC & HANDLES
https://youtu.be/E6Tmkz3veBM
SWIVEL WITHIN WATER FED BRUSH HEAD
https://youtu.be/FiZyYG8-V8E
WATER FED BRUSH EZY SWIVEL
https://youtu.be/VfNyV9A3oDg
NEW TYPE SWIVEL ON WFP APPLICATOR
https://youtu.be/pMGiptQYMbU
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Although this is nothing new here's a few video did before Gardiner even thought to do this.
CLOSER LOOK NEW WATER FED BRUSH SWIVEL
https://youtu.be/MTfeUn_AGZM
WAGTAIL SQUEEGEE HANDLE FITTED ON SWIVEL
https://youtu.be/uakV_i4y3aU
DIY BEST SWIVEL WFP BRUSH USING OLD WAGTAIL DISC & HANDLES
https://youtu.be/E6Tmkz3veBM
SWIVEL WITHIN WATER FED BRUSH HEAD
https://youtu.be/FiZyYG8-V8E
WATER FED BRUSH EZY SWIVEL
https://youtu.be/VfNyV9A3oDg
NEW TYPE SWIVEL ON WFP APPLICATOR
https://youtu.be/pMGiptQYMbU
And Supermarine sold Spitfires in their tens of thousands even though Martin-Baker made an equally good plane. Head-starts and all that.
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Huh?
which plane was that ?
Darran
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Martin Baker MB3 and Martin Baker MB5.
Not all bad news - Martin-Baker went on to become a world leader in ejection seats. Still are.
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I'm not going to even click the link.
History has told me the last 20 times I've done so on your videos it's been total poope.
I'm going to hazard a guess you haven't managed to re invent the wheel on this one either.
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I don't understand why people come on to say DIY stuff doesn't work or isn't as good when they have no clue because they've never tried the things they criticise. ::)roll ::)roll
Many of the manufactured products around today come from the minds of DIYers, eg. Quickloc, swivels
Just saying. ;D
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Buddy, your persist ant that's for sure.
We ain't criticising the DIY fanatic that you are, it's just that we don't need to in the UK.
Now, have we said that before........... Erm yes many a times. Therefore as much as you may benefit from these adaptions, we won't and never will and its frustrating to constantly see you wasting your time in doing so. We'll, on here anyway.
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Buddy, your persist ant that's for sure.
We ain't criticising the DIY fanatic that you are, it's just that we don't need to in the UK.
Now, have we said that before........... Erm yes many a times. Therefore as much as you may benefit from these adaptions, we won't and never will and its frustrating to constantly see you wasting your time in doing so. We'll, on here anyway.
Well these are some what like had in the videos.
What do you think of them tried them yet as they made in the UK.
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1564059033_GARDINER QUICK LOQ.j2.jpg)
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1564059079_GARDINER SWIVEL.jpg)
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1564059397_SWIVEL FIX 2.jpg)
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Martin Baker MB3 and Martin Baker MB5.
Not all bad news - Martin-Baker went on to become a world leader in ejection seats. Still are.
cheers I look forward to reading and researching these ;D
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I don't understand why people come on to say DIY stuff doesn't work or isn't as good when they have no clue because they've never tried the things they criticise. ::)roll ::)roll
Many of the manufactured products around today come from the minds of DIYers, eg. Quickloc, swivels
Just saying. ;D
Of course they do - but im not going to fit a wooden carriage wheel to my Merc am I, and thats the point, other than for your own glorification are you posting this - so you invented a swivel - well done now you can BUY a pukka version for a few quid
As ive asked before show us something NEW - truly unique that we would all love to have - it's not hard for a man of your skills surely ?
Darran
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Did you know you can make Christmas decorations from wire coat hangers?
;D ;D ;D
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I don't understand why people come on to say DIY stuff doesn't work or isn't as good when they have no clue because they've never tried the things they criticise. ::)roll ::)roll
Many of the manufactured products around today come from the minds of DIYers, eg. Quickloc, swivels
Just saying. ;D
Of course they do - but im not going to fit a wooden carriage wheel to my Merc am I, and thats the point, other than for your own glorification are you posting this - so you invented a swivel - well done now you can BUY a pukka version for a few quid
As ive asked before show us something NEW - truly unique that we would all love to have - it's not hard for a man of your skills surely ?
Darran
True looks nothing unique
Well Darran if you have a look at this swivel movement there is some differing's that you would not notice until you have in your hand.
Also it seems no one wants to say too much about the Gardiners version of there swivels on past problem with there's as well
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What's you thoughts on these or is there other swivels Gardiner has.?
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1564088974_SWIVEL FIX 2.jpg)
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1564089084_GARDINER SWIVEL.jpg)
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1564089132_GARDINER QUICK LOQ.j2.jpg)
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After 20 years window cleaning I have not found the need for a swivel so far and doubt very much if it’s something I would ever use , I did try a friends on a couple of jobs and couldn’t wait to hand it back hated it and didn’t see the need for it .
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After 20 years window cleaning I have not found the need for a swivel so far and doubt very much if it’s something I would ever use , I did try a friends on a couple of jobs and couldn’t wait to hand it back hated it and didn’t see the need for it .
So your talking about the Gardiner swivel??
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I use a Gardiners swivel and have done for probably the last 3 or 4 years.
Wouldnt be without it now.
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Gardiners make two models. The only difference between the two is shaft length. The shorter ones are too short, always get the slightly longer one.
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Gardiners make two models. The only difference between the two is shaft length. The shorter ones are too short, always get the slightly longer one.
And they work for you OK??
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Been using a Gardiners swivel since they came out. Never had a problem with one yet.
They do wear a little, just tighten the screw occasionally. Certainly don’t feel the need to bodge one of my own.
You’re about ten years too late Herman, we were crying out for a good swivel before Gardiners gave us one.
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Been using a Gardiners swivel since they came out. Never had a problem with one yet.
They do wear a little, just tighten the screw occasionally. Certainly don’t feel the need to bodge one of my own.
You’re about ten years too late Herman, we were crying out for a good swivel before Gardiners gave us one.
Why do you have to tighten screw for??
OH that's right it starts flopping from side to side.
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Gardiners make two models. The only difference between the two is shaft length. The shorter ones are too short, always get the slightly longer one.
And they work for you OK??
Why wouldn't they?
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Gardiners make two models. The only difference between the two is shaft length. The shorter ones are too short, always get the slightly longer one.
And they work for you OK??
Why wouldn't they?
Should of said what is the difference between using long to short shaft how does it affect the way you use it?
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When you need to change the brush angle, depending on where you are standing in relation to the house, there's insufficient space to hold on to the shorter swivel. The longer one is excellent, but that might just be me, maybe for some the shorter one is better suited.
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Gardiners make two models. The only difference between the two is shaft length. The shorter ones are too short, always get the slightly longer one.
And they work for you OK??
Why wouldn't they?
Should of said what is the difference between using long to short shaft how does it affect the way you use it?
You should've answered my question.
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Gardiners make two models. The only difference between the two is shaft length. The shorter ones are too short, always get the slightly longer one.
And they work for you OK??
Why wouldn't they?
Should of said what is the difference between using long to short shaft how does it affect the way you use it?
You should've answered my question.
The thing is not to sure which one your talking about.
THIS ONE WITCH IS ATTACTED DIRICTLY TO BRUSH.
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1564126696_BARREL NUT 3.jpg)
OR THIS ONE .
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1564127011_BARREL NUT.jpg)
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Why don't you answer my question?
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Why don't you answer my question?
It seems that you don't know yourself.
Could also ask you .
Why wouldn't our swivel work.
Could /can you answer that??
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So anyway for the people that have a better gasp of things, that want to know why this swivel works better.
Take note 24 second to the 34 second mark in video.
As said you will see why.
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You won't get an answer - hman has no interest in feedback or the fact just about everyone uses a purpose manufactured item - he avoids answering any questions early
I've used a couple of swivels - there not for me
Darran
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You won't get an answer - hman has no interest in feedback or the fact just about everyone uses a purpose manufactured item - he avoids answering any questions early
I've used a couple of swivels - there not for me
Darran
No use crying about it just because you don't even think there worth using. ::)roll ::)roll
Why don't you ask Alex Gardiner.
Tell him what you think wrong with the Gardiner swivel movement.
Don't ask me ::)roll ::)roll
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Why don't you answer my question?
It seems that you don't know yourself.
Could also ask you .
Why wouldn't our swivel work.
Could /can you answer that??
Where have I said it doesn’t work?
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Why do ones, myself included get drawn into commenting on his threads when we all know what there about and how advi e isn't appreciated.
If everyone stops giving attention to it and just leave him be,
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Why do ones, myself included get drawn into commenting on his threads when we all know what there about and how advi e isn't appreciated.
If everyone stops giving attention to it and just leave him be,
Yes your right it always seem the same people that start.
In the end the don't even use them.
(Yes to those people leave me alone.) :D
And let other people have a say without you putting your unwanted two bobs worth in. ;D
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You won't get an answer - hman has no interest in feedback or the fact just about everyone uses a purpose manufactured item - he avoids answering any questions early
I've used a couple of swivels - there not for me
Darran
No use crying about it just because you don't even think there worth using. ::)roll ::)roll
Why don't you ask Alex Gardiner.
Tell him what you think wrong with the Gardiner swivel movement.
Don't ask me ::)roll ::)roll
Hahahahahaaaaaaaa crying? You are deluded - some like them some don't I clean windows just fine without a swivel - your just bleating on how you diy'ed something several years ago - now they are manufactured and YOU don't need to take up old outdated items
Still thAnks for making my day with your comments 🤗
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It's a forum - get over yourself
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It's a forum - get over yourself
;) ;) ;D ;D ;D 8)
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Yes your right it always seem the same people that start.
You’re right. It’s always you that starts these threads.
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Yes your right it always seem the same people that start.
You’re right. It’s always you that starts these threads.
;) ;) ;D ;D ;D 8)
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Thing is Herman, you think your designs are the best thing since sliced bread. They may well be but for us to ‘try it’ and ‘you don’t understand’ then we will all have to retire to the shed with a hot air gun, bit’s of plastic, boxes of screws and start bending.
To be honest although there’s plenty of hot air on here I’m not sure there’s many benders.
Just make a proper job and send it to Gardiners for approval then if it’s that good maybe he’ll put them into production as you obviously aren’t in a position to do.
The worlds moved on, people have busy lives and can’t be arsed with closet brush fondling these days. We just pick up the phone and order a new cheap product that arrives the next day .......... and works!
I might also add that if it’s the same few people that answer your posts then I can only guess that the other twenty thousand or so just aren’t interested?
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......................... or, make a dozen quality examples, send them to forum members for a review. Send one to me if you like and I’ll test it for a few months, see if it’s better than my Gardiner swivels.
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Thing is Herman, you think your designs are the best thing since sliced bread. They may well be but for us to ‘try it’ and ‘you don’t understand’ then we will all have to retire to the shed with a hot air gun, bit’s of plastic, boxes of screws and start bending.
To be honest although there’s plenty of hot air on here I’m not sure there’s many benders.
Just make a proper job and send it to Gardiners for approval then if it’s that good maybe he’ll put them into production as you obviously aren’t in a position to do.
The worlds moved on, people have busy lives and can’t be arsed with closet brush fondling these days. We just pick up the phone and order a new cheap product that arrives the next day .......... and works!
I might also add that if it’s the same few people that answer your posts then I can only guess that the other twenty thousand or so just aren’t interested?
Don't worry Alex Gardiner already knows as he did when I put that quick lock video up.
Dose not worry me if most people are not interested it's normally the ones that say nothing that understand.
Although Alex this time at least give a bit credit for our ideas.
Take note title on video HERME SWIVEL.
You also have our E-Address.
Thanking You,
Herman.
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So what is it you actually want?
Do you want people to make their own?
Do you want to put them into production?
Do you want someone else to produce them?
Do you just want to knock Gardiners?
Say I tested one, wrote a glowing review then what? If you don’t have a patent then I might produce them.
Prob 40,000 people haven’t responded so you’ve obviously got a lot of interest.
I haven’t clicked on any of the videos but going by the title you’ve nicked the wagtail swivel design in the past too. Hardly original and yet you complain constantly of Gardiners taking your idea. (Something that’s been around in other applications for over fifty years).
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IMO he's got a resentment with Gardiners. Shame really, he's probably the only one on here who has.
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I haven't even watched vid or read the thread as I know it will be load of pointless rubbish as usual ::)roll
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IMO he's got a resentment with Gardiners. Shame really, he's probably the only one on here who has.
It really does comes across like he’s got a chip on his shoulder
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Why do you have to tighten screw for??
OH that's right it starts flopping from side to side.
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For me, the swivel function on my brush is really useful and I wouldn't want to be without it.
In reply to the above comment - if it didn't move freely from side to side, it wouldn't be a lot of good. Moving freely is key to controlling the swivel. Some of us like a little more tension in the swivel than others and that's one of the functions of the screw along with taking up the slack from wear and tear. However, on that score, I've used mine for several years and only had to tighten it slightly about half a dozen times. I don't consider this an issue considering the amount of use it gets.
Got to say though, that I have made parts that I use myself that I feel are better than production versions and I'm sure I'm not alone.
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I have a swivel I got years ago , couldn’t get on with it , I think design might have changed a bit .
I would like to give it another chance as didn’t give it chance first time round, but if it’s now changed there seems little point
Going to the shed of doom , I may be some time !
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This is what I found , swivel bottom centre , any point or not ?
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(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1564230460_502EE4A5-C653-4F07-991B-3CB1FCCF5F12.png)
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(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1564230460_502EE4A5-C653-4F07-991B-3CB1FCCF5F12.png)
Are you sure your not HMAN
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(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1564230460_502EE4A5-C653-4F07-991B-3CB1FCCF5F12.png)
You nearly have as much stuff as I have in our shed. ;D ;D ;D ;D