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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Oliver James on June 03, 2019, 11:51:54 am

Title: Window Cleaning Leads In Birmingham / Sutton / Solihull
Post by: Oliver James on June 03, 2019, 11:51:54 am: We drop about 80k leaflets per year in Birmingham, Sutton and Solihull.

We only add clients to our rounds if they set up a direct debit.

About 80% of our customers will organise a direct debit, but we have a of people contacting us who sound like decent customers, but they don't want to set up a direct debit.

So, we have leads for sale.

They all have clear, open air access to the back via a garden gate, and they are in affluent areas eg. Edgbaston, Harborne, Moseley, Bournville, Barnt Green, Cofton, Sutton and Solihull.

Here are the prices:

One-Off: £10, with the prices you will receive from customers for one off work starting at £58 for a 3 bed semi.

Regular: Price of the first clean.

All the houses have clear access to the back, and you can see the prices we charge here (they start at £29 for a 3 bed semi)

www.oliverthewindowcleaner.com

I'm not asking for cash up front for these leads.

I want to forge a long term partnership with someone I can trust and who will transfer the money to my bank account when the customer has paid.

Any questions please ask:

If you are interested in these leads please call text or call me on:

07 799 033 759
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Leads In Birmingham / Sutton / Solihull
Post by: Shrek on June 03, 2019, 02:27:06 pm: So , you want someone to do the work , get paid into their account , then transfer the money to you each time.... why?
Are you wanting to employ someone but in secret?
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Leads In Birmingham / Sutton / Solihull
Post by: Oliver James on June 03, 2019, 03:49:53 pm: Just to be clear, I'm selling the leads.

Once I've had the nod from the customer then I will send across the customers name, address, phone number and how much I've quoted for the work (based on our pricing menu).

The prices are double our 12 weekly rates for one off work, and our min. price for 12 weekly work for a 3 bed semi with no connie or extension is £29.

If you buy the leads, you do the work, you get paid by the customer and my fee is £10 for one off work, and the price of the first clean for regular work.

You do not pay "up front" for the lead, you only pay AFTER you've done the work - and have been paid by the customer.

All the work is from customers in affluent areas that sound like decent customers over the 'phone. All the work has clear, open-air access to the back via a garden gate.

Any questions please ask.
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Leads In Birmingham / Sutton / Solihull
Post by: Scrimble on June 03, 2019, 04:07:15 pm: why don't you just clean them yourself? or pay an employee to clean them so that "YOUR company" Is cleaning the customer that YOUR company has found.

or are all these leads a waste of time so you are trying to par them off on someone ELSE?
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Leads In Birmingham / Sutton / Solihull
Post by: Splash & dash on June 03, 2019, 04:38:52 pm: So you are expecting someone to do a one off clean for £19 after paying you ??? Why would they want to do that ??? Not s very good price when they can get there own work .
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Leads In Birmingham / Sutton / Solihull
Post by: Cookie on June 03, 2019, 04:44:08 pm: Quote from: Splash & dash on June 03, 2019, 04:38:52 pm
So you are expecting someone to do a one off clean for £19 after paying you ??? Why would they want to do that ??? Not s very good price when they can get there own work .

I agree that for someone who has a more or less full round it's not a great deal but for someone who's starting out and needs a few cleans it's not too bad. Saves wearing the shoe leather canvassing and also they might be able to convert the customer to a regular.
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Leads In Birmingham / Sutton / Solihull
Post by: The Jester of Wibbly on June 03, 2019, 05:14:55 pm: When I get someone contacting me from outside my remit. I just pass on their details with their permission to someone else for free.
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Leads In Birmingham / Sutton / Solihull
Post by: capn sparkle on June 03, 2019, 10:07:56 pm: Exactly the same as above - given away thousands of work from walk ups.

Set up two mates on my 'patch' and even built them static systems at home for nowt.

Not everything in life is about money .

Look at me go with my paupers grave being buried by the council. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Leads In Birmingham / Sutton / Solihull
Post by: nathankaye on June 04, 2019, 12:09:29 am: Same as above comments, I've made friends with a number of fellow cleaners in the same areas where I work and some close friends in other areas. If I get work too far out or I'm not interested in, I pass on their contact details and they mine.
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I was contacted by a chap setting up a lead generated company for window cleaners, as he came across my Facebook page I've set up for Scotland and I think from some posts on here about it. Yet it seemed a little strange and he was quite new to it.
My interpretation of what was being said, was that I would pay a small percentage per clean with their generated work. So not a one off price per lead but a running fee for the duration of time I have said customer. More like, renting the work than buying leads.
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Leads In Birmingham / Sutton / Solihull
Post by: Oliver James on June 04, 2019, 09:01:43 am: Scrimble, To ascertain if these leads are a waste of time, you'd need to ask my friend who I hand these leads to. We've been working together since March, and every month he transfers about £40 to my bank account.

Okay, so it is small beer, but these leads have a value, and the price I'm charging is accepted by him.

Splash and Dash: It is not £19. We charge DOUBLE the 12 weekly price for one off work. So the buyer of the leads get paid 2x£29 = £58 for a 3 bed semi and my fee is £10. They pay that £10 AFTER the customer has paid them. They don't pay up front for the lead.

Jester: I used to do this as well, after Ian Lancaster advised me to find an up and coming window cleaner to hand over the leads to that I didn't want (one off's). This worked out really well.

However, recently, we have been getting a lot of calls due to increased advertising we are doing. We've also changed the business model from employing to a partnership / subcontracting model. Ideally I want to know the people we are subcontracting work out to, and selling them leads prior to them becoming partners is a good way of finding out we are both a good fit for a potential partnership.

Just to be clear, I am NOT 'renting' these leads.

These leads are decent sounding people who either want a one off or they don't want to sign up to a direct debit.

For one off work I sell them for £10, and the gross revenue that the buyer of the leads gets is DOUBLE our 12 weekly prices.

So, our price for a 3 bed semi done 12 weekly is £29. For a one off; the customer gets charged: £58.

My fee is £10, so if you buy a lead off me, you bill £58, my fee is £10, and your revenue from the job after my fee is £48.

We also sell gutter cleaning leads as well and these are priced from our menu so a 3 bed semi gutter clean with no connie / extension is £75. The lead buyer pays £10 to me and what their revenue from the job after my fee is £65.

We all know how difficult it can be to get payment from one off work, so the buyer of the lead only transfers the £10 fee to my bank account AFTER they have been paid by the customer.

For 12 weekly work I charge the first clean price, so my fee for 12 weekly work is £29 for a 3 bed semi.
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Leads In Birmingham / Sutton / Solihull
Post by: Bungle on June 04, 2019, 01:02:33 pm: £58 for a first clean on a 3 bed semi. Hope they aren’t in when you turn up and are gone 15 minutes later ;D
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Leads In Birmingham / Sutton / Solihull
Post by: tlwcs on June 04, 2019, 04:51:13 pm: Quote from: Bungle on June 04, 2019, 01:02:33 pm
£58 for a first clean on a 3 bed semi. Hope they aren’t in when you turn up and are gone 15 minutes later ;D

It seems to work Bungle. I don’t doubt his figures. Many of my custards have had his booklet and very occasionally I see one of his vans. My £15 semi cleaned monthly works out dearer, although I appreciate I’m working more/harder for it.
He targets quite a specific market, that’s not for everyone. All the areas he targets are affluent and are happy to pay more for a high level of service and professionalism.
In my experience, in one of his targeted areas, most houses do not have clear air (whatever) access..
Gates if available are well and truly locked, bolted and padlocked.
His 12 weekly cleaning schedule also applies to a fairly limited market.
I’m happy to have him as my competition 😁
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Leads In Birmingham / Sutton / Solihull
Post by: jonny thompson on June 07, 2019, 09:58:42 am: His flyers in your area are a great way of increasing your £15 semis into £20,everyone’s a winner
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Leads In Birmingham / Sutton / Solihull
Post by: Oliver James on June 07, 2019, 12:09:47 pm: Glad to be of Service Sir :-))

WHY do so many people regard window cleaning as a low-skilled profession, and something that anyone can do. Window cleaning is NOT 'a low skilled profession', 'a lesser trade; or 'unskilled at best'.

Cleaning windows at a high speed and at a high standard, and delivering amazing customer service and making a decent profit at the same time is a real challenge.

Look at what Charlie Mullins has done for plumbing with Pimlico.

He's delivered amazing customer service, he's got plumbing into the media, and he's created an awesome company that is so successful that British Gas and other giant competitors are having board meetings to talk about him 'cos they're terrified about what he's gonna do next.

Window cleaning is tough business.

Gnarly weather, difficult customers, hassles with equipment, usually working alone, and you only as good as your last performance. Running your own window cleaning business as a one man band is stressful AND lonely.

And this is before you begin the challenge of finding decent customers that pay their bills and give you enough profit to live a decent lifestyle and save for your retirement.

If you've 'made it' as a window cleaner, you've done something really special. Only one in ten companies succeed, so WELL DONE!

If you are struggling as a window cleaner then start the process of doing something about it.

Just so you know, I'll be running "One to One" workshops for West Midlands window cleaners very soon and I'll make an announcement about this soon.

These workshops will last 60 minutes, and they will be FREE, and I will give you some easily-implemented ideas that can potentially transform your business.

Places on these 1 to 1 workshops are limited, so pre-register now by calling or texting me on 07 799 033 759 or email me: oliver@oliverthewindowcleaner.com

I've attached something I've written about what it is like to earn your living as a window cleaner -
Recommended reading if you ever need a cure for insomnia!

When I’m Cleaning Windows
By
Oliver James Metherell

Between 2003 and 2011 I worked part time as a black taxi driver in Edinburgh and led a team of mountaineers on a project called “Super 7”. We visited every one of the seven continents and either climbed a mountain that had never been climbed before (Antarctica, South America) or established a first ascent (Europe, Asia, North America, Africa and Australasia).

A first ascent is when you start at the bottom of a cliff and make a new route to the top, pioneering a new climbing route over ground that has NEVER been climbed before.

Climb a new route; and you get to name it. My favourite name was “24-Hour Party People” that I climbed with Kevin Neal and the late James Edwards (Sleep easy bro’).

We named the new climb we’d created “24 Hour-Party People” as a nod to the deep hedonism that’s such vital part of the climbing sub-culture; and because we climbed the steep new ice route up the mountain (Mt Aspiring: The ‘Matterhorn’ of New Zealand) in a non-stop 36-hour push without a wink of sleep.

Our patron was Sir Chris Bonington and he described it as “A brilliant project – so much more exciting, innovative and adventurous than the ‘Seven Summits’. It’s true exploratory adventure by young guys who are talented climbers attempting something that is bold, innovative and very adventurous”. On completion we received Royal recognition with an invite to Buckingham Palace to meet HM The Queen.

Hanging up my ice axes; after years of being a climbing vagabond and pioneering first ascents on obscure mountains that only climbing geeks have heard of; was one of the hardest things I’ve ever done. See (http://www.super-7.co.uk/) if you ever
need a cure for insomnia.

But I’d found something I loved even more: High-velocity water fed pole window cleaning. Inspired by a day spent with Roger Needle and his crew, I set out to pioneer new techniques in the craft of window cleaning.

I was also inspired by The Isle of Man TT Race. When I was Assistant Editor at ‘Motorcycle Sport’, I rode pillion on the insane Honda CBR1100XX Super Black Bird (at one time the world’s fastest production motorcycle) piloted by a former TT racer.

I was the passenger on a motorcycle being driven by a man who had done a lap of the TT circuit at an average speed of over 121 mph. The TT circuit is infamously dangerous. Barry Sheene mounted a successful campaign to get it deleted from the Grand Prix roster in the 1980s, and it includes A-roads, B-Roads, country lanes and humpback bridges.

Hunched over the handlebars, The TT racer rode this ballistic powerhouse of a motorcycle with an utter contempt both for his own life - and the lives of other road users.
With 164 horsepower kicking like a mule my knees skimmed the tarmac as the bike carved through the twists and turns. Leaned over at a crazy angle, we took ‘The Racing Line’ through the curves of a twisty B-road.

Whenever the bikes tyres met the slippery white paint of the road’s centre lane markings, the rubber would ‘break traction’ and beneath my seat, I could feel the chassis of the bike writhe and twist uneasily in protest - like an un-settled cobra.

I was struck not just by the speed at which TT racers can ride ‘point to point’; but the laser-like precision of where they place the bike on the road.

Starting my window cleaning career in Birmingham, I decided to make a ‘conscious uncoupling’ of the idea that fast work = shoddy work; and I decided to approach water-fed pole window cleaning (then a fledgling industry) with a ‘race mentality’, combining high speed with ‘scalpel’ like precision.
In my attempt to become ‘The Michael Schumacher of The Shine’ I was inspired by Churchill and his battles in Britain’s darkest hour. I wanted to fight an epic battle on behalf of the region’s affluent home owners. A battle against a small minority of window cleaners that are ‘average’ at best; and window cleaning brands that are so bland they melt into oblivion.

My tragic obsession with window cleaning continues to develop. I’m a now a window cleaning geek, and one of a select number of people in the UK who can empty an entire public bar with my talk of ‘Zero Degree Splay’ brushes, ‘Bi-Angle Rinsing’ and ‘7-Stage Signature Techniques.’

Not all of my fellow brethren in the guild are gentlemen. Before I started outsourcing our calls, I was getting threatening ‘phone calls every few months. E.g.: “Stay out of Harborne.”, “Listen Pal, Dinnae be putting down any more leaflets in Quinton.” And rather ominously: “Watch. Your. Back.”

One morning when the business was still based at my home I came out to transfer water from my water plant to the van to find that someone had come into my back garden during the night and hacksawed my transfer pipe in two. Then I had my safety cones stolen while I was working round the back of a customer’s house.

I speculate that my competitors are wannabee gangsters rather than actual bona fide villains. But if I get found face-down in the canal with a knife sticking out of my back then you’ll know what happened!

After being in the trade for 8 years, I have now begun work on the ‘Exit Exam’ of my window cleaning apprenticeship: How not to look like a complete fool when I trip over my pole hose like a muppet and land ‘flat on my face’ in front of a pack of “Yummy Mummies” on an up-scale suburban street.

My intention is to create an amazing prestige window cleaning service with stellar customer service. Our company (est.2011) is called Oliver James – Wind0w Cleaner™ and we serve over 700 home owners in Birmingham, Solihull and Sutton. Our clients include OBE’s, MBE’s, CBE’s, Surgeons, Barristers, a high court judge and A Knight of The Realm.

I work in partnership with ‘Top Gun’, ‘Best of The Best’ local window cleaners. Affluent home owners get quality home services from a brand they can trust.

Quality window cleaners get work with decent profit margins. If you are billing about £200 a day right now then you could have an extra £350 a week in your pocket if you work with us. Window cleaners get a better work/life balance, we make sure our team members have finished work by 3pm at the latest.

And window cleaners save themselves up to 5 hours a week of notifying customers, scheduling work and chasing debt – plus, they don’t have the hassle and expense of sales and marketing. .

I want to elevate the status of and pay of window cleaners in The West Midlands, change window cleaning culture in our area forever, and make Birmingham a better place through window cleaning.

Businesses come and go. Revolutions never die.

Who Else Wants to start a revolution?

Text / Call: 07 799 033 759

oliver@oliverthewindowcleaner.com
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Leads In Birmingham / Sutton / Solihull
Post by: James Styles on June 07, 2019, 01:13:02 pm: I’m in Birmingham I may be interested to attend one of these workshop sessions as I’m just starting out, I have about 30 odd customers so far.
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Leads In Birmingham / Sutton / Solihull
Post by: robbo333 on June 07, 2019, 01:20:43 pm: Why don't you just put on your leaflet, that you only accept direct debit payments.
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Leads In Birmingham / Sutton / Solihull
Post by: Oliver James on June 07, 2019, 01:52:31 pm: James, well done for getting 30 customers.

That is the hardest part of any business, getting new customers.

If you can get 30 customer, you've got what it takes to get 300, so keep trucking and PM me or get in touch by email / text- would be great to hear from you.

Why don't I write on the leaflet that I only take DD?

Good question. The leaflet is a few years old now, so it doesn't include the latest info about how we work.

I remember a friend of mine laughing at me when I said I was going to try Go Cardless in 2015.

"Your customers" he sneered, "are NEVER going to pay A WINDOW CLEANER, by Direct Debit"

This time last year I started ONLY letting customers join the round if they set up a DD.

In the late summer of last year I stopped servicing about 130 customers who would not pay by DD, and wrote them several letters (polite ones!) explaining that I was only accepting DD from now on. I lost about 50 of them....

By Oct 2018 I was 100% DD. But I was still losing customers on sign up, because they had to visit a link and set it up. I was gutted to be losing about 50% of my leads, because they wouldn't set up a DD.

In Jan 2019 I went 'Go Cardless Pro', and now about 80-85% of the leads sign up a DD online, on the phone, or on the doorstep.

My Go Cardless bill was £400 last month. With the Pro Package, which lets you sign up customers to DD over the 'phone or in person using a form, you pay about £200 a month and then 60p per transaction.

Having customers who pay by cash / cheque / bacs isn't a problem if you're a one man band.

But if the company grows, your priority as the head of the business becomes managing the cashflow.

If customers don't pay quickly, it will screw your cashflow and screw you.

There is also the time factor. Collecting and chasing payment takes up time that you probably don't have.

Chasing debt is depressing work and it sucks the joy out of running a business.

So I embraced Go Cardless whole-heartedly and for me, Go Cardless is a game changer!
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Leads In Birmingham / Sutton / Solihull
Post by: Smudger on June 07, 2019, 02:35:30 pm: I think somebody's been reading too many "personal development" books

I think you need to be advertising your "workshops" on proper adverts on here.

while window cleaning is not something everybody can do - certainly not everybody can do windows and create a business you certainly are bigging it up somewhat

Darran
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Leads In Birmingham / Sutton / Solihull
Post by: Oliver James on June 07, 2019, 03:57:48 pm: Darran,

Mitch has spokent to me about my posts and this is why I have a paid ad up right now. I'm allowed to change the content in two weeks and put up something about the workshops.

The only thing I regret about reading all those books is that I had to start wearing reading glasses aged 41, which put an end to my modelling career unfortunately ;-)

Cracking name for your company and your website is brilliant, the best window cleaning website I've seen.

I think you might have mentioned a while ago your partner had done some work on it. If this is the case then she's a pro - tell her that her work is awesome.
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Leads In Birmingham / Sutton / Solihull
Post by: Smudger on June 07, 2019, 04:04:44 pm: I see you now have a sticky/advert at the top - I was merely asking, so all is good from my point of view.

yes all the other half work ( well sourcing a really good web designer and sorting out the layout etc.. ) I will pass on your comments

I'm too cynical for all those books - best use I have found for them is that I'm vertically challenged so they come in useful when I stack them up so I can change a lightbulb ;D

having said that I am reading ( on and off ). How to be F**king awesome - thats interesting

Darran
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Leads In Birmingham / Sutton / Solihull
Post by: Oliver James on June 07, 2019, 04:20:41 pm: It is true that some of the books are to be taken with a pinch of salt.

I'm tempted by the best selling: "The Life Changing Magic of Not Giving a F**K" by Mark Manson

One of my friends has a collection of books with amusing titles, and unlikely Title/Author combinations: I'm going to stay at his place on a cycling trip soon and I'm looking forward to browsing his bookshelves eg.

‘Are You Dancing?’ by R. U. Asking

‘Art and Culture’ by Phyllis Stein

‘Artificial Weightlessness’ by Andy Gravity

‘Back Problems’ by Eileen Bent

Well, starting to stray off topic.

Often think about writing a book about window cleaning that would only be of interest to hardcore window cleaning geeks.

Plenty of options here, eg: "Your Panes are My Pleasure", "Through the Glass Darkly", "Clearing the Mist from the Glass" etc, etc.

As a retirement project one day, I'd like to write a book about vintage windows. Some of the windows we clean are breathtaking in their beauty; and the craftsmanship you see in their construction is sublime - and they won't be around forever.
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Leads In Birmingham / Sutton / Solihull
Post by: James Styles on June 07, 2019, 06:31:41 pm: Quote from: Oliver James on June 07, 2019, 01:52:31 pm
James, well done for getting 30 customers.

That is the hardest part of any business, getting new customers.

If you can get 30 customer, you've got what it takes to get 300, so keep trucking and PM me or get in touch by email / text- would be great to hear from you.

Thank you mate I did send you a PM/Email on here.
I am working from car with CLX gardiner pole and backpack.
When I get to 100 customers I plan on buying a van which will make the work easier and look more professional.
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Leads In Birmingham / Sutton / Solihull
Post by: ֍Winp®oClean֍ on June 07, 2019, 06:54:00 pm: Oh dear, we have another one! ;D
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Leads In Birmingham / Sutton / Solihull
Post by: Smudger on June 07, 2019, 07:40:43 pm: Quote from: Peavey Wolfgang on June 07, 2019, 06:54:00 pm
Oh dear, we have another one! ;D

please don't tar all these high flyers with the same brush!!!! ;D

Darran
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Leads In Birmingham / Sutton / Solihull
Post by: Dave Willis on June 07, 2019, 09:30:19 pm: Flippin eck.
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Leads In Birmingham / Sutton / Solihull
Post by: ֍Winp®oClean֍ on June 07, 2019, 09:34:18 pm: Quote from: Dave Willis on June 07, 2019, 09:30:19 pm
Flippin eck.

I was knackered just reading it!! :o
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Leads In Birmingham / Sutton / Solihull
Post by: Ooooooog on June 08, 2019, 10:39:45 am: Is this guy on coke?
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Leads In Birmingham / Sutton / Solihull
Post by: Oliver James on June 08, 2019, 01:11:27 pm: Dave,

The lines on your post about Stella and your missus walking 'down the aisle' made me smile :-))

I went to see the Elton John film ("Rocketman") last week with my wife.

Elton always had a fairly tense relationship with the tabloids; particularly "The Sun", and when he married David Furnish The Sun Headline that day was:

"Elton Takes David Up The Aisle" :-)
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Leads In Birmingham / Sutton / Solihull
Post by: Oliver James on June 08, 2019, 01:22:50 pm: James,

I can't find your PM, so I've asked Mitch to change my settings so I can accept PM's and help me locate it.

In the meantime, please don't hesitate to get in touch

Email is:

oliverAToliverthewindowcleaner.com
Text / Whatsapp is 07799033759

I'm working all weekend until 9pm!

Talk soon.
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Leads In Birmingham / Sutton / Solihull
Post by: Smudger on June 08, 2019, 02:10:38 pm: 9pm - you need time management as well as cashflow management matey
Darran
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Leads In Birmingham / Sutton / Solihull
Post by: Oliver James on June 08, 2019, 04:11:51 pm: I door knock until 2045 in the summer months - you can't do that in the winter.

Don't intend to be working at weekends forever tho'....
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Leads In Birmingham / Sutton / Solihull
Post by: James Styles on June 08, 2019, 08:32:00 pm: Do you guys on the forum think it’s wise to buy some leads as a newbie or best to just keep canvassing and get work myself (which I would do anyway)
What would you do in my situation.
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Leads In Birmingham / Sutton / Solihull
Post by: The Jester of Wibbly on June 08, 2019, 09:03:21 pm: Quote from: James Styles on June 08, 2019, 08:32:00 pm
Do you guys on the forum think it’s wise to buy some leads as a newbie or best to just keep canvassing and get work myself (which I would do anyway)
What would you do in my situation.

Just do whatever works for you. Give each method a trial. If one way is not for you just stop and concentrate on your prefered methods.

Everyone is different
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Leads In Birmingham / Sutton / Solihull
Post by: Smudger on June 09, 2019, 02:57:53 pm: do what is right for you - some have brought work and been a total success - others found it a little hard going esp. if the round was trad and converting to wfp.

personally I'd hate to part with 4,5 or more times the value of the round - meaning I'm cleaning them effectively for free for the next year - I would possibly consider a canvasser if you need to build numbers quickly - at least the money is yours on the 3rd clean and they usually replace drop outs (if cancel on clean 2)

Darran
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Leads In Birmingham / Sutton / Solihull
Post by: Ooooooog on June 09, 2019, 04:29:15 pm: Quote from: James Styles on June 08, 2019, 08:32:00 pm
Do you guys on the forum think it’s wise to buy some leads as a newbie or best to just keep canvassing and get work myself (which I would do anyway)
What would you do in my situation.

It depends on how you value time. If you have plenty of time, walk around asking people if they’d like a quote for window cleaning.
When I started a couple of years ago I had a target of 3 a day.
Good luck!
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Leads In Birmingham / Sutton / Solihull
Post by: keen n clean on June 12, 2019, 08:24:30 pm: Quote from: jonny thompson on June 07, 2019, 09:58:42 am
His flyers in your area are a great way of increasing your £15 semis into £20,everyone’s a winner
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could not agree more jonny boy ]