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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: nathankaye on May 07, 2019, 09:58:40 pm
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So I charge a tenner for the front clean of a customers house, similar to the one posted below.
Just had an email to cancel as her neighbours cleaner will do it for.................. £4!
Wow, nope not angry or anything, I just pity the guy.
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1557262708_aviary-image-1557261105501.jpeg)
Then it's also the time for them to crawl from under the wood work....
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1557262863_Screenshot_20190507-220023.png)
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So I charge a tenner for the front clean of a customers house, similar to the one posted below.
Just had an email to cancel as her neighbours cleaner will do it for.................. £4!
Wow, nope not angry or anything, I just pity the guy.
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1557262708_aviary-image-1557261105501.jpeg)
Then it's also the time for them to crawl from under the wood work....
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1557262863_Screenshot_20190507-220023.png)
£10 for that is expensive, i would go even further and say you are ripping them off! In this case you have overpriced yourself out of a Job, so it's not a race to the bottom. Would you be happy if your Mum was paying £10 for that! And you don't even Rinse!!
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£10 is always the min charge for me. What other trades go out to a customers property for that price let alone for £4.
I don't agree with above comment at all.
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Our minimum charge is £30+VAT. There are 3 of us working so have to charge the amount otherwise we will not make the daily target. I think everyone should have a minimum charge.
As there are 3 of us we try and specialise with only large properties and commercial work.
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Our minimum charge is £30+VAT. There are 3 of us working so have to charge the amount otherwise we will not make the daily target. I think everyone should have a minimum charge.
As there are 3 of us we try and specialise with only large properties and commercial work.
So you'd charge £36 for the house in the pic right? You think someone would pay you £36 to clean the house in the pic? Are you telling porkies?
£30 + VAT minimum charge 😂
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Our minimum charge is £30+VAT. There are 3 of us working so have to charge the amount otherwise we will not make the daily target. I think everyone should have a minimum charge.
As there are 3 of us we try and specialise with only large properties and commercial work.
So you'd charge £36 for the house in the pic right? You think someone would pay you £36 to clean the house in the pic? Are you telling porkies?
£30 + VAT minimum charge 😂
I think what he's trying to say is he wouldn't take on that work as there are 3 of them,
its an interesting way to run a round 3 guys on each house
Darran
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So I charge a tenner for the front clean of a customers house, similar to the one posted below.
Just had an email to cancel as her neighbours cleaner will do it for.................. £4!
Wow, nope not angry or anything, I just pity the guy.
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1557262708_aviary-image-1557261105501.jpeg)
Then it's also the time for them to crawl from under the wood work....
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1557262863_Screenshot_20190507-220023.png)
£10 for that is expensive, i would go even further and say you are ripping them off! In this case you have overpriced yourself out of a Job, so it's not a race to the bottom. Would you be happy if your Mum was paying £10 for that! And you don't even Rinse!!
Tony, I normally bite when the bait is given. Why do you harp on about not rinsing. Do you honestly think that you have to take the brush off the glass to rinse 🤔😂😂😂😂.
If I was simply smearing hot water over a window, that I would be running a successful business!? 😂😂
Mate, your comments are as silly as my response to you.
It proves that one's will always price lower and try to justify doing so, when many who run a business like a business won't. If I priced myself out of a job, then I wouldn't have got the job in the first place, would I, oh by the way, its not an old dears house either.
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Wait 'til you're getting Scottish prices.
You'll be on the Bucky wi' Rab and Jamesie instead of servicing your clients.
And the Toby Carveries are pish.
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Loving the rip off police wtf?
Any well priced work is at risk of being lost at some point.
Like you Nathon I just smile and move on. The phone always rings giving me the opportunity to rip someone else off. Sorry, I mean profit from.
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Thing is Nathan if you were down south a tenner may be acceptable.
As a fellow Yorkshire man you are really pushing it charging a tenner for 2 windows and a door, I would be a tenner for 4 windows and 2 doors (front and back 2 bed semi) and would still be more that a lot of local cleaners who would be £6-8
I know it totally depends, if that was out of the way you may need to charge a tenner to make it worthwhile but if that's amongst regular work it would take no more than 3 mins. Literally.
£4 is on the cheap side but if it's next to a house he cleans it's not even 3 mins work more like 2.
I would personally be about £6 for that of amongst other work and would feel that's a good price for my area.
Btw if you can get them prices all day long that's great you must be on £400+ a day. Just don't moan when you lose them because when you are way over the market average it's inevitable.
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The thing is though, it's not just two windows and a door though is it. It's two windows plus a large bay or you could even say its five windows plus a door.
Simplifying it to two windows simplifies the price in a person's head and justifies a cheap price.
Yes this customer in en route to another street, just round the corner where I clean two neighbours at £25 per clean every 4 weeks.
I don't charge for my time or per minute and even if I did clean ten houses on that street, I would still want the same price as if I just had one or two.
With better prices, it simply means I don't have to work hard each day or long hours etc and I guess many on here know I don't like to work hard ;D ;D
Some have it in their heads that I don't even rinse 😂
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I defo wouldn’t see that as 2 windows and a door. It’s 5 leaded windows and a door , I would price it as 8 squid . It’d take longer than 2 minutes from getting out the van to getting back in the van after you’ve finished. Take into account tax and expenses, you don’t want to be charging £4.
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So I charge a tenner for the front clean of a customers house, similar to the one posted below.
Just had an email to cancel as her neighbours cleaner will do it for.................. £4!
Wow, nope not angry or anything, I just pity the guy.
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1557262708_aviary-image-1557261105501.jpeg)
Then it's also the time for them to crawl from under the wood work....
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1557262863_Screenshot_20190507-220023.png)
Nathan i wouldn't pity the Guy charging 4 Pound, he will Learn eventually, i think 10 pound is very reasonable.
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Personally I wouldn’t argue with anyone about they’re prices being too high or too little, if some want to charge peanuts than I say go ahead and work like a fool all day rushing around doing loads of £4 jobs!!
You don’t hold a gun to the customers head when they accept your quote and they have the right to walk away too, charge what you think your worth.
We’ve all been there though starting out taking whatever we can on, I think back to some of the jobs I first did and the distance I had to travel, makes me feel ill but it put bread on the table and once my round got bigger and better I ditched those jobs or put them up.
Its like a feeding chain window cleaning,when you get the new ones starting they take all the crap underpriced work, messers or hard to access work until they build a round up if they stick at it😂
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Our minimum charge is £30+VAT. There are 3 of us working so have to charge the amount otherwise we will not make the daily target. I think everyone should have a minimum charge.
As there are 3 of us we try and specialise with only large properties and commercial work.
So not really at all relevant ?
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Maybe approx. 60 % of my round is min. £10 house fronts. I'm happy with that, especially when I may have a run of 10 + in one street. Good hourly rate and no access issues. ;)
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i clean some front only jobs for £4 on compact estate work(albeit no bay windows and the windows are smaller).im still earning £45-£50 an hour (mixed in with full houses) on this work.....
pity them? why?they can charge what they want its their business.......theres no set charge for window cleaning....
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£10 min charge for me.
I’ve always found these cheap as chips window cleaners extremely annoying.
If we all charged more, the going rate would be higher and we would all be earning more.
It’s these plonkers charging 4 quid that lower the standard prices of window cleaning.
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I’d go as far as to say your ripping them off someone said lol,£10 for someone to travel to you’re address to clean you’re Windows for 10 quid lol.
I wouldn’t do it for 10 quid I do about 10 flats all £15 and are within easy reach of each other and they take 5-6 minutes each,I’m trying to run a business to pay bills not a few days. Week for beer money. 10 of them to fill my van up with fuel no thanks they are newbie jobs that’s the kind of stuff a canvasser will get for you or a lead generation company.
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i clean some front only jobs for £4 on compact estate work(albeit no bay windows and the windows are smaller).im still earning £45-£50 an hour (mixed in with full houses) on this work.....
pity them? why?they can charge what they want its their business.......theres no set charge for window cleaning....
Thats a fair point, but when a person is paid a tenner for over a year for cleaning windows, which obviously the customer was happy to do so. Someone comes along and thinks four quid is a fair price and gets the job. One he's undercut someone to get the job and yes I'm sure they would be aware of that and know its a cheap price. Second, he's loosing £6 on that clean compared to what other people would get, so yes I pity them for working in such a way.
Like your own example, would you rather clean the fronts of a street for a tenner or as some have offered, £8. Compared to less than half that price which you are currently charging. In effect more than doubling your hourly rate on that stretch?
It would pay for your heated seats n diesel heater nicely
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When I used to just do the odd place for a few quid I ended up being runoff my feet due to enquires when word got round,cleaning windows for 4-5 quid a pop spells desperation to me what can you buy for that these days or 15 years ago employing someone’s services for that amount of money,no wonder us shiners are looked down on.
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The thing is though, it's not just two windows and a door though is it. It's two windows plus a large bay or you could even say its five windows plus a door.
Simplifying it to two windows simplifies the price in a person's head and justifies a cheap price.
Yes this customer in en route to another street, just round the corner where I clean two neighbours at £25 per clean every 4 weeks.
I don't charge for my time or per minute and even if I did clean ten houses on that street, I would still want the same price as if I just had one or two.
With better prices, it simply means I don't have to work hard each day or long hours etc and I guess many on here know I don't like to work hard ;D ;D
Some have it in their heads that I don't even rinse 😂
Yes it's two windows and a door.
It's a bay but it not a BAY, it's 3 sides and it has them brown frames that barely need to be touched.
I'm not saying dont charge a tenner, great if you can get a tenner all I'm saying is don't be surprised you were undercut as there's lots who would undercut you on that and still make a decent profit.
I do charge for my time, that's how I've always prices houses. I dont price a house simply on how many windows, I price on parking, location, etc in other words how long will it take me including travel time etc.
I would rather have 10 of them on one street at £6 than1 at a tenner because i way over priced it and I would still be on £100 an hour at those prices
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I’d go as far as to say your ripping them off someone said lol,£10 for someone to travel to you’re address to clean you’re Windows for 10 quid lol.
I wouldn’t do it for 10 quid I do about 10 flats all £15 and are within easy reach of each other and they take 5-6 minutes each,I’m trying to run a business to pay bills not a few days. Week for beer money. 10 of them to fill my van up with fuel no thanks they are newbie jobs that’s the kind of stuff a canvasser will get for you or a lead generation company.
I could clean those for £6 and still do £250 + a day easily.
That might be beer money where you are but in my area it's aa good crack...
That's why I think it makes no sense someone commenting on prices in another area
£15 a front is just as alien to me and a £5 one is to you. Different worlds.
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Nathan
How much would you charge for the whole house? Assuming there is a similar amount of glass around back? And no access issues.
Tam
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Nathan
How much would you charge for the whole house? Assuming there is a similar amount of glass around back? And no access issues.
Tam
My min price is for a basic 2 or 3 bed semi house, which has basic two up n two downstairs windows.
A min price is just that, a min price. So if the full house fitted my requirements for min fee, it would be £10.
I priced one the other day for £15 for the full house but it's depending if she opens the garage for rear window access. I also mentioned my min price (which she knew as she contacted me from an advert which states this), so if it was a front clean only, it would be £10. She said that's fair and agreed with those terms.
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I’d go as far as to say your ripping them off someone said lol,£10 for someone to travel to you’re address to clean you’re Windows for 10 quid lol.
I wouldn’t do it for 10 quid I do about 10 flats all £15 and are within easy reach of each other and they take 5-6 minutes each,I’m trying to run a business to pay bills not a few days. Week for beer money. 10 of them to fill my van up with fuel no thanks they are newbie jobs that’s the kind of stuff a canvasser will get for you or a lead generation company.
I could clean those for £6 and still do £250 + a day easily.
That might be beer money where you are but in my area it's aa good crack...
That's why I think it makes no sense someone commenting on prices in another area
£15 a front is just as alien to me and a £5 one is to you. Different worlds.
I have a friend who purposely keeps his prices low, to keep competition out of his patch (yes he refers to it as his patch still). However he still looses work to higher charging cleaners, myself included because if it looks like rain, he won't work. I purposely charge high, as I don't want to take work of him, but when they are willing to pay double his price, then it speaks for itself!
Another point, the street around the corner from this house in question, I charge £25 each and its two houses. So let's say, this chap would charge a tenner, that's five houses he has to clean to make the same as me in about 30-40mins to make £50.
Or in your example, £250 a days work at £6 pr House is over 40 houses a day to clean, compared to 25 @ £10 a clean. We both get there, but one is working harder and longer than the other.
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I’d go as far as to say your ripping them off someone said lol,£10 for someone to travel to you’re address to clean you’re Windows for 10 quid lol.
I wouldn’t do it for 10 quid I do about 10 flats all £15 and are within easy reach of each other and they take 5-6 minutes each,I’m trying to run a business to pay bills not a few days. Week for beer money. 10 of them to fill my van up with fuel no thanks they are newbie jobs that’s the kind of stuff a canvasser will get for you or a lead generation company.
I could clean those for £6 and still do £250 + a day easily.
That might be beer money where you are but in my area it's aa good crack...
That's why I think it makes no sense someone commenting on prices in another area
£15 a front is just as alien to me and a £5 one is to you. Different worlds.
I have a friend who purposely keeps his prices low, to keep competition out of his patch (yes he refers to it as his patch still). However he still looses work to higher charging cleaners, myself included because if it looks like rain, he won't work. I purposely charge high, as I don't want to take work of him, but when they are willing to pay double his price, then it speaks for itself!
Another point, the street around the corner from this house in question, I charge £25 each and its two houses. So let's say, this chap would charge a tenner, that's five houses he has to clean to make the same as me in about 30-40mins to make £50.
Or in your example, £250 a days work at £6 pr House is over 40 houses a day to clean, compared to 25 @ £10 a clean. We both get there, but one is working harder and longer than the other.
Who needs enemies? ;D
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Nathan, why aren’t you at work today?
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Nathan, why aren’t you at work today?
Didn't say I wasn't!
I've worked till early afternoon, then I've got other commitments 👍😁 nice try tho buddy
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Nathan, why aren’t you at work today?
He's sat in his van spanking the monkey :P
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Don’t know where he gets the energy from, been at it most of the day.
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i clean some front only jobs for £4 on compact estate work(albeit no bay windows and the windows are smaller).im still earning £45-£50 an hour (mixed in with full houses) on this work.....
pity them? why?they can charge what they want its their business.......theres no set charge for window cleaning....
Thats a fair point, but when a person is paid a tenner for over a year for cleaning windows, which obviously the customer was happy to do so. Someone comes along and thinks four quid is a fair price and gets the job. One he's undercut someone to get the job and yes I'm sure they would be aware of that and know its a cheap price. Second, he's loosing £6 on that clean compared to what other people would get, so yes I pity them for working in such a way.
Like your own example, would you rather clean the fronts of a street for a tenner or as some have offered, £8. Compared to less than half that price which you are currently charging. In effect more than doubling your hourly rate on that stretch?
It would pay for your heated seats n diesel heater nicely
i earn plenty mate to pay for my diesel heater,heated seats and luxury holidays......no need to be greedy.....im happy with £4 for 3 mins work.....
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ladies. put your handbags down
surely we all have some where we charge slightly more for a stand alone front?
and surely we sometimes have a run that we can charge lower prices .
I know I do.
for example , I clean a small cottage front and back which is on a run of houses I do. she asked me to clean the front of her nieces , another very small terraced , 2 up one down and a door. so I charge £4 for that and the aunty pays .
within a matter of months I had a run of 16 small fronts, all charged at £4 each.... they take around an hour including the collecting, and they all pay for eachother.. in fact the collecting takes nearly as long as the cleaning.. all paid on the clean tho and no returning.
I am happy to do this , but I don't target this type of work, I just came by it by chance. I wouldn't actively seek this type of work.
I also do stand alone fronts like in the opening thread and charge £8..... now I do find this a pain, but continue in the hope that I will get more in the street like it. again I do this through it being a relative of another good paying customer or a referral.
I wouldn't actively go seeking it...
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Nathan
How much would you charge for the whole house? Assuming there is a similar amount of glass around back? And no access issues.
Tam
i have some similar houses on some parts of my round and charge £15 for front and back,£20 if they have a conny.....
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I don't care about other peoples' prices!
I don't care if they are half my price or twice my price.
I don't care if they do a good job or a crap job.
1 don't care if they take 2 mins or 2 hours.
I don't care if they stand on the tiles or on the plants.
I don't care if they drive a big posh van or little old sh11ter.
It would seem i'm not a very caring person! ;D
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I don't care about other peoples' prices!
I don't care if they are half my price or twice my price.
I don't care if they do a good job or a crap job.
1 don't care if they take 2 mins or 2 hours.
I don't care if they stand on the tiles or on the plants.
I don't care if they drive a big posh van or little old sh11ter.
It would seem i'm not a very caring person! ;D
I don't care what u think ;D ;D ;D
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So I charge a tenner for the front clean of a customers house, similar to the one posted below.
Just had an email to cancel as her neighbours cleaner will do it for.................. £4!
Wow, nope not angry or anything, I just pity the guy.
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1557262708_aviary-image-1557261105501.jpeg)
Then it's also the time for them to crawl from under the wood work....
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1557262863_Screenshot_20190507-220023.png)
£10 for that is expensive, i would go even further and say you are ripping them off! In this case you have overpriced yourself out of a Job, so it's not a race to the bottom. Would you be happy if your Mum was paying £10 for that! And you don't even Rinse!!
I don’t think that’s over priced , we have a minimum price of £10 so that’s what we would charge , wouldn’t be bothered if we got it or not , but when there currant cleaner stopes coming in a few months I certainly wouldn’t be going back
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I do a front house very similar to that for £5, I feel i underpriced it slightly after I done it but I’m just starting out, I feel £7 would be about right now that I’m getting used to the work & pricing.
Would probably be too soon for me to try raise the price to £7 after just one clean, suppose you live and learn.
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Or in your example, £250 a days work at £6 pr House is over 40 houses a day to clean, compared to 25 @ £10 a clean. We both get there, but one is working harder and longer than the other.
What I think is more important here is how much of that £250 you can keep in your pocket.
I'm the £6/£7/£8 x 30/40 house type of window cleaner, your obviously, the latter.
But I bet after expenses I have a lot more of it in my pocket than you ;D ;D ;D
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Or in your example, £250 a days work at £6 pr House is over 40 houses a day to clean, compared to 25 @ £10 a clean. We both get there, but one is working harder and longer than the other.
What I think is more important here is how much of that £250 you can keep in your pocket.
I'm the £6/£7/£8 x 30/40 house type of window cleaner, your obviously, the latter.
But I bet after expenses I have a lot more of it in my pocket than you ;D ;D ;D
If you ain't got an ex wife, than Im sure you do.
😂😂😂😂
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Or in your example, £250 a days work at £6 pr House is over 40 houses a day to clean, compared to 25 @ £10 a clean. We both get there, but one is working harder and longer than the other.
What I think is more important here is how much of that £250 you can keep in your pocket.
I'm the £6/£7/£8 x 30/40 house type of window cleaner, your obviously, the latter.
But I bet after expenses I have a lot more of it in my pocket than you ;D ;D ;D
If you ain't got an ex wife, than Im sure you do.
😂😂😂😂
Come on, Nate; you're in Donny.
You can get rid of an ex wife and still have change for a fortnight in Scarborough from 250 notes.