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Title: Health and safety with your hose
Post by: Richard Stevenson on March 19, 2019, 08:27:59 pm
In 18 years of water Fed pole work never really had a problem with my hose between van and work. Until now! Recently work on a building with a cycle path running along side it, a cyclist hit the hose then hit a lamp post, gave me a load of verbal and went on his way( not happy at all). This week when working on another building a motorbike ( on a access road) hit the hose and road into a wall. Leaner rider who was  just a little winded said sorry and went on his way. Anyone else had similar experiences.
Title: Re: Health and safety with your hose
Post by: Phil J on March 19, 2019, 08:39:22 pm
I've decked an old Doris wheeling one of those tartan trolly's!
Title: Re: Health and safety with your hose
Post by: The Jester of Wibbly on March 19, 2019, 08:41:53 pm
Its the pot holes and the drain grills these idiots should be worried about  ;D
Title: Re: Health and safety with your hose
Post by: AuRavelling79 on March 19, 2019, 08:42:31 pm
No. I've been lucky.

I also put out cones and make sure the hose is at 90 degrees to the flow of traffic.

A mate had a car drag his reel out of the van because the hose kinked up and caught the underside of the car. It flung it into a parked car before a connector gave way and no other damage ensued.
Title: Re: Health and safety with your hose
Post by: Cookie on March 19, 2019, 08:59:21 pm
As far as I know I'm the only who's tripped over my hose. I even had my yellow "Warning trailing hose" cone out at the time.
Title: Re: Health and safety with your hose
Post by: Ooooooog on March 19, 2019, 09:03:45 pm
We’ve just got a big job to clean a load of one offs. There’s no way we’d have won the work if we suggested leaving hoses across pavements.
Title: Re: Health and safety with your hose
Post by: Pete Thompson on March 20, 2019, 01:13:55 am
This is one of my fears.

I very rarely run a hose across a road or even the pavement, I HATE doing it, but sometimes it's unavoidable.  To hear that a hose caught on someone's car and yanked the reel just made me hate a little bit more.

I have considered getting a small trolley system just to avoid having to do it, I hate it that much.  I wish there was another solution.
Title: Re: Health and safety with your hose
Post by: nathankaye on March 20, 2019, 03:50:59 am
In the begining, i used to connect my hose to a port outside the van and lift the reel out and face it in the direction i was working.
Well on one occasion  and as most know I have the hose clipped to an holster  on the belt. Well there was an occasion where i got a heavy tug on the hose. At first I thought it was a mate who had spotted me and was messing about with the hose.
When i checked, my hose reel had yanked off the back of the van and about 2 meters down the street and the plastic undercarriage of a car further down the road.  No one supposedly spotted anything and no one stopped.
Its a 20mph zone but its a street people like to speed down for some reason. All i can conclude is this chap or lass certainly wasnt doing the limit and his undercarriage was loose anyway and it caught the hose and ended with the results as said.

I still work with the hose across the road as it cant be helped at times. However i alwaays make sure that its laid flat with no kinks and runs 90degrees straight across. Thankfully nothing has happened again.
Title: Re: Health and safety with your hose
Post by: M & C Window Cleaning on March 20, 2019, 09:14:02 am
This was one of the considerations I had in mind when making the decision to work with a trolley and a short length of hose. But even using this method I still have to keep a close eye on my hose because so many people just do not look where they are going. They eyes are fixed on their phones. And small children on bikes seem to aim for the hose for some reason. However, in nearly twelve years of poling so far the only person I’ve succeeded in causing to fall over completely is myself, twice. Stepped on the hose whilst pushing the trolley and gone headlong over the top of the trolley. Embarrassing and painful  😖
Title: Re: Health and safety with your hose
Post by: The Jester of Wibbly on March 20, 2019, 09:22:14 am
I really would not worry as long as hose is laid flat across the path. Is highly visible and more visible and less of a bump than a low kerb or tree root.   It's the publics responsibly to be aware of their surroundings too.

I now avoid running hose across the road.  Since going hot using the red 6mm hose I find it bounces when a car goes over it. 

Title: Re: Health and safety with your hose
Post by: dazmond on March 20, 2019, 03:50:13 pm
This is one of my fears.

I very rarely run a hose across a road or even the pavement, I HATE doing it, but sometimes it's unavoidable.  To hear that a hose caught on someone's car and yanked the reel just made me hate a little bit more.

I have considered getting a small trolley system just to avoid having to do it, I hate it that much.  I wish there was another solution.

you worry too much...i run hoses across roads,pavements all the time every day,no problems.....i always make sure its flat though.....

sod using a trolley again! ;D
Title: Re: Health and safety with your hose
Post by: AuRavelling79 on March 20, 2019, 04:00:31 pm
I don't run my hose across busy roads but will in a cul de sac and often across pavements. I always put cones out and run the hose at 90 degrees to traffic.

One factory I work at I usually have no choice but to put the hose across where all the lorries go in and out and it runs along the edge of the zebra crossing (internal on site zebra crossing) - I have never had an issue with hose damage ever.

I've never tripped over my hose but I have tripped over my trip hazard cone - into a fishpond. Laugh!  ::)roll
Title: Re: Health and safety with your hose
Post by: Bryan Dolby on March 20, 2019, 08:31:16 pm
Hi All

Please read

Road traffic act
Highways act

All what you are doing is against the law

Trolley system would be best choice and eliminate all problems

There will be no excuse if a accident happens and you have spoken about accidents that have already happened


Bryan


Title: Re: Health and safety with your hose
Post by: Simon Trapani on March 20, 2019, 09:01:52 pm
I always make sure mine's flat if crossing a road but why do you guys run it at 90 degrees to the road? ???
Title: Re: Health and safety with your hose
Post by: AuRavelling79 on March 20, 2019, 09:23:54 pm
I always make sure mine's flat if crossing a road but why do you guys run it at 90 degrees to the road? ???

So a cyclist with skinny tyres doesn't strike it at an oblique angle and fall off.
Title: Re: Health and safety with your hose
Post by: Simon Trapani on March 20, 2019, 09:33:45 pm
I always make sure mine's flat if crossing a road but why do you guys run it at 90 degrees to the road? ???

So a cyclist with skinny tyres doesn't strike it at an oblique angle and fall off.
Ah..ok..

I think I do tend to run mine at 90 degrees thinking about it...but only because it looks neater!! ;D
Title: Re: Health and safety with your hose
Post by: dazmond on March 21, 2019, 09:01:00 am
i dont even use cones anymore........

how on earth does a cyclist fall off their bike riding over a bit of hose? ::)roll

i hate cyclists on the roads anyway.....esp the ones in all their lycra riding 3 abreast down country lanes....id run them over if i could get away with it... ;D
Title: Re: Health and safety with your hose
Post by: zesty on March 21, 2019, 01:27:35 pm
i dont even use cones anymore........

how on earth does a cyclist fall off their bike riding over a bit of hose? ::)roll

i hate cyclists on the roads anyway.....esp the ones in all their lycra riding 3 abreast down country lanes....id run them over if i could get away with it... ;D

I used to cycle a lot daz, and it was moron drivers that put me off, went to France to cycle the alpps and they were fantastic at giving space and patience.

It’s a brilliant sport, but dangerous these days.


Title: Re: Health and safety with your hose
Post by: zesty on March 21, 2019, 01:31:36 pm
R.e hoses, never really bothered me.

I keep them horizontal across roads, don’t use cones, have never had a problem.

We all need to be vigilant though...

Title: Re: Health and safety with your hose
Post by: iain R Jones on March 21, 2019, 01:55:18 pm

i hate cyclists on the roads anyway.....esp the ones in all their lycra riding 3 abreast down country lanes....id run them over if i could get away with it... ;D
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You may hate cyclists on the road, but they are allowed to be and I agree 3 abreast is wrong.
Riding two abreast is legal.
The comment about you would run them over if you could get away with it is a stupid thing to say.
Getting back on topic, I use a back pack on a sack truck I have yellow warning signs plus my hose is bright red
Title: Re: Health and safety with your hose
Post by: dazmond on March 21, 2019, 04:24:37 pm

i hate cyclists on the roads anyway.....esp the ones in all their lycra riding 3 abreast down country lanes....id run them over if i could get away with it... ;D


You may hate cyclists on the road, but they are allowed to be and I agree 3 abreast is wrong.
Riding two abreast is legal.
The comment about you would run them over if you could get away with it is a stupid thing to say.
Getting back on topic, I use a back pack on a sack truck I have yellow warning signs plus my hose is bright red
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ok run them over was a bit strong.....i meant gently push them into a grass verge while their on their bikes.....is that better? ;D
Title: Re: Health and safety with your hose
Post by: Donald07 on March 21, 2019, 11:34:02 pm
It may sometimes be irritating but the health and  safety obligations are a serious threat to business if something goes wrong and all the safe steps haven't been taken.
http://www.fargil.co.uk/
Title: Re: Health and safety with your hose
Post by: Ooooooog on March 22, 2019, 07:44:59 am
It may sometimes be irritating but the health and  safety obligations are a serious threat to business if something goes wrong and all the safe steps haven't been taken.
http://www.fargil.co.uk/

Do you do much in the way of photovoltaics Donald? Might be good to have a chat?