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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: cleaniac on March 12, 2019, 12:36:30 pm
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poor weather your window clean has been rescheduled for tomorrow, Wednesday the 13th March. Best Wishes...Marc
Just sent this out today, going to do an internal window clean this afternoon that was booked in tomorrow and swap over the work. Just having a bacon bagel, and preparing my scrims for this afternoons internal job..
some of the replies....
"Thanks...we did wonder ;D"
"Thanks, I believe strong tea and a warm sofa are necessary at these times of hardship! :D"
"Ok Marc, last thing i want is you blown up on the roof- see you tomorrow! :-*
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I haven't had to text any.
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My chaps are out. ;D
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My chaps are out. ;D
What a cowboy!
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My chaps are out. ;D
Haha poor bugers.only way to run a stable business and the rain doesn't affect the cleaning process
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poor weather your window clean has been rescheduled for tomorrow, Wednesday the 13th March. Best Wishes...Marc
Just sent this out today, going to do an internal window clean this afternoon that was booked in tomorrow and swap over the work. Just having a bacon bagel, and preparing my scrims for this afternoons internal job..
some of the replies....
"Thanks...we did wonder ;D"
"Thanks, I believe strong tea and a warm sofa are necessary at these times of hardship! :D"
"Ok Marc, last thing i want is you blown up on the roof- see you tomorrow! :-*
this is precisely why i NEVER offer a next clean date on "windows cleaned today" slips........ ;D
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Marc I really do believe that you make the job more stressful than it needs to be ;D
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My chaps are out. ;D
What a cowboy!
Car washes are still open. There’s dirt to be shifted!
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My chaps are out. ;D
What a cowboy!
Car washes are still open. There’s dirt to be shifted!
i always say...."when the postmen stop working due to bad weather then so will i!"(they never do!) ;D
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I texted all my customers this morning whilst it was raining asking for gates to be opened b4 they leave for work. They got sent at 7.30am. I normally send them at tea time the night before.
Anyway, Guess what? All the gates were opened and work went on as normal.
Though I am gratefull that by mid morning ish, the weather improved.
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I texted all my customers this morning whilst it was raining asking for gates to be opened b4 they leave for work. They got sent at 7.30am. I normally send them at tea time the night before.
Anyway, Guess what? All the gates were opened and work went on as normal.
Though I am gratefull that by mid morning ish, the weather improved.
The foul weather hit here in the afternoon. Horrendous rain and 3c. It was one of those days that I said in all honesty to one of my team that if I worked alone I’d have sacked it off.
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My chaps are out. ;D
What a cowboy!
Car washes are still open. There’s dirt to be shifted!
That went way over your head didn’t it! You said “ my chaps are out “...... chaps = what cowboys wear😉
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My chaps are out. ;D
What a cowboy!
Car washes are still open. There’s dirt to be shifted!
That went way over your head didn’t it! You said “ my chaps are out “...... chaps = what cowboys wear😉
Oh it did. Sorry.
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poor weather your window clean has been rescheduled for tomorrow, Wednesday the 13th March. Best Wishes...Marc
Just sent this out today, going to do an internal window clean this afternoon that was booked in tomorrow and swap over the work. Just having a bacon bagel, and preparing my scrims for this afternoons internal job..
some of the replies....
"Thanks...we did wonder ;D"
"Thanks, I believe strong tea and a warm sofa are necessary at these times of hardship! :D"
"Ok Marc, last thing i want is you blown up on the roof- see you tomorrow! :-*
If you rescheduled Tuesdays work for Wednesday, when will you do Wednesdays work? And so on and so on. Sounds like a right mess to sort out to me.
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poor weather your window clean has been rescheduled for tomorrow, Wednesday the 13th March. Best Wishes...Marc
Just sent this out today, going to do an internal window clean this afternoon that was booked in tomorrow and swap over the work. Just having a bacon bagel, and preparing my scrims for this afternoons internal job..
some of the replies....
"Thanks...we did wonder ;D"
"Thanks, I believe strong tea and a warm sofa are necessary at these times of hardship! :D"
"Ok Marc, last thing i want is you blown up on the roof- see you tomorrow! :-*
If you rescheduled Tuesdays work for Wednesday, when will you do Wednesdays work? And so on and so on. Sounds like a right mess to sort out to me.
Just sent this out today, going to do an internal window clean this afternoon that was booked in tomorrow and swap over the work
Erm....did you read my post?
Its very easy to understand.
And its easier to text customers when there is a problem, than texting them every evening the day before that im coming to clean like most of you.
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I never work in the pouring rain unless it’s a wash down or gutters,depends what they are paying if they are small jobs then fair enough but I wouldn’t want to upset or make it look like I’m taking the pee out of em when it’s lashing down,you can say it makes no difference all you like if it’s there opinion you are taking the pee then that’s all that matters they are paying.
I say to them I work if it’s drizzling but I say won’t turn up in the rain if it’s stairods,you have to use you’re loaf when they are paying good money.
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poor weather your window clean has been rescheduled for tomorrow, Wednesday the 13th March. Best Wishes...Marc
Just sent this out today, going to do an internal window clean this afternoon that was booked in tomorrow and swap over the work. Just having a bacon bagel, and preparing my scrims for this afternoons internal job..
some of the replies....
"Thanks...we did wonder ;D"
"Thanks, I believe strong tea and a warm sofa are necessary at these times of hardship! :D"
"Ok Marc, last thing i want is you blown up on the roof- see you tomorrow! :-*
If you rescheduled Tuesdays work for Wednesday, when will you do Wednesdays work? And so on and so on. Sounds like a right mess to sort out to me.
Just sent this out today, going to do an internal window clean this afternoon that was booked in tomorrow and swap over the work
Erm....did you read my post?
Its very easy to understand.
And its easier to text customers when there is a problem, than texting them every evening the day before that im coming to clean like most of you.
Is there any other reason than access issues to text in advance?
Not for me
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Just for your info..it was high winds and sideways water washes yesterday.
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I never work in the pouring rain unless it’s a wash down or gutters,depends what they are paying if they are small jobs then fair enough but I wouldn’t want to upset or make it look like I’m taking the pee out of em when it’s lashing down,you can say it makes no difference all you like if it’s there opinion you are taking the pee then that’s all that matters they are paying.
I say to them I work if it’s drizzling but I say won’t turn up in the rain if it’s stairods,you have to use you’re loaf when they are paying good money.
I agree, my customers pay from £7 to £90 to have their house cleaned, wouldn't want to clean in driving rain for my million pound houses to have dirty windows the following day, I'd soon lose custom that way
If they are £5 council houses that's a different kettle of fish
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I never work in the pouring rain unless it’s a wash down or gutters,depends what they are paying if they are small jobs then fair enough but I wouldn’t want to upset or make it look like I’m taking the pee out of em when it’s lashing down,you can say it makes no difference all you like if it’s there opinion you are taking the pee then that’s all that matters they are paying.
I say to them I work if it’s drizzling but I say won’t turn up in the rain if it’s stairods,you have to use you’re loaf when they are paying good money.
I agree, my customers pay from £7 to £90 to have their house cleaned, wouldn't want to clean in driving rain for my million pound houses to have dirty windows the following day, I'd soon lose custom that way
If they are £5 council houses that's a different kettle of fish
So you fall into the category of pleasing socially well to do people and bow to their wims.
Obviously use common sense with what rain you are prepared to work in. However to ME, i wouldnt treat the well off any different to the poorer. They are only Human. If my service is good enough for one then its good enough for the next person and the same reason I work in the rain applies to them all.
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What happens if you’ve started a job in drizzle then it turns into heavy rain before you’ve finished?
You gonna sit in the van for a couple of hours
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It makes no difference to me Nathan I am cleaning big houses if you clean a 15 quid house and you take a chance in the pouring rain who cares if you lose it,if I go out and try to take the pee and turn up in torrential rain and lose or pee off a house worth 10x that it would grate on me m8.
If I get rained off a whole day and it’s rare for that to be a whole day let’s face it,I’ll cheery pick the next couple of days to more than make up for it,the odd day off won’t hurt you,losing 80 quid + houses would sting it’s a case of using you’re head like I say small houses go for it.
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If it’s been raining or the forecast later that day is rain I’ll still clean but I wouldn’t turn up in the rain,I would park up and give it a chance to clear first at least,IMO turning up in the rain looks bad only my opinion.
As said depends on the work commercial is a different matter in a lot of cases but not all.
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I never work in the pouring rain unless it’s a wash down or gutters,depends what they are paying if they are small jobs then fair enough but I wouldn’t want to upset or make it look like I’m taking the pee out of em when it’s lashing down,you can say it makes no difference all you like if it’s there opinion you are taking the pee then that’s all that matters they are paying.
I say to them I work if it’s drizzling but I say won’t turn up in the rain if it’s stairods,you have to use you’re loaf when they are paying good money.
I agree, my customers pay from £7 to £90 to have their house cleaned, wouldn't want to clean in driving rain for my million pound houses to have dirty windows the following day, I'd soon lose custom that way
If they are £5 council houses that's a different kettle of fish
You might lose the odd customer, but the financial benefit of working through outweighs any financial loss.
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i reckon i lost a £40 job last year due to me turning up when it was bouncing down......she was quite a fussy customer but always paid up on the day....oh well.....it doesnt stop me window cleaning when its raining though.....
like 8 weekly said.....losing the odd job is nowhere near as bad financially as sacking the day off because of rain....
theres always another new job/customer just around the corner anyway......
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It makes no difference to me I can make up for it by joining in very good jobs to cover a lost day here and there,just because you work in the rain don’t confuse the fact that people don’t mind in reality they are tolerating it if truth be told.
You are working in the rain due to the fact you employ staff so you are having to work in the rain,anyone worth their salt that’s done this job long enough can take the odd hit with a day off due to rain,the question is do people mind you cleaning their windows in the rain,99% I would say do mind but tolerate it every now and again regardless of you standing there explaining it makes no odds to the glass staying clean,if someone was cleaning my windows with it coming down in bucket loads of rain I’d mind.
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It makes no difference to me I can make up for it by joining in very good jobs to cover a lost day here and there,just because you work in the rain don’t confuse the fact that people don’t mind in reality they are tolerating it if truth be told.
You are working in the rain due to the fact you employ staff so you are having to work in the rain,anyone worth their salt that’s done this job long enough can take the odd hit with a day off due to rain,the question is do people mind you cleaning their windows in the rain,99% I would say do mind but tolerate it every now and again regardless of you standing there explaining it makes no odds to the glass staying clean,if someone was cleaning my windows with it coming down in bucket loads of rain I’d mind.
Sounds very scientific.
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I had a patio laid a few years ago the blokes came to lay Indian sandstone when it was -2-3,I told them you’re not laying them today they said we’ve got to work I said not in these temperatures thanks when it goes off there will be cracks galore.
We all know that it takes the pee working in the rain but some still do because they have to for financial reasons although that doesn’t make it ok,I’m not talking showers here I’m talking proper prolonged rain that’s in for the day so to speak
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I prefer to carry on working in the rain but do admit the quality drops due to the cloths getting saturated on just cleaning one window frame and sill.
I had one customer left yesterday and it started to rain, I nearly went home but decided to carry on, it was raining hard and the customer was in, she paid and seemed more concerned about me getting wet.
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I had a patio laid a few years ago the blokes came to lay Indian sandstone when it was -2-3,I told them you’re not laying them today they said we’ve got to work I said not in these temperatures thanks when it goes off there will be cracks galore.
We all know that it takes the pee working in the rain but some still do because they have to for financial reasons although that doesn’t make it ok,I’m not talking showers here I’m talking proper prolonged rain that’s in for the day so to speak
That’s different and not comparable. Should a postie stop because he’ll get the birthday cards wet?
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It makes no difference to me Nathan I am cleaning big houses if you clean a 15 quid house and you take a chance in the pouring rain who cares if you lose it,if I go out and try to take the pee and turn up in torrential rain and lose or pee off a house worth 10x that it would grate on me m8.
If I get rained off a whole day and it’s rare for that to be a whole day let’s face it,I’ll cheery pick the next couple of days to more than make up for it,the odd day off won’t hurt you,losing 80 quid + houses would sting it’s a case of using you’re head like I say small houses go for it.
I understand what you are saying.
I just take the stance that working in the rain makes no difference to the clean than it raining five minutes later on a house youve just cleaned! Therefore if you work in the rain, you work in the rain regardless of the house your cleaning.
If you dont work in torrential rain innone area then dont in another. I dont understand why you say its taking the P's to turn up and work.
If you educate your customers big n smal as to why you are working in the rain it makes no difference does it. They will also appreciate you have a job to do.
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I never work in the pouring rain unless it’s a wash down or gutters,depends what they are paying if they are small jobs then fair enough but I wouldn’t want to upset or make it look like I’m taking the pee out of em when it’s lashing down,you can say it makes no difference all you like if it’s there opinion you are taking the pee then that’s all that matters they are paying.
I say to them I work if it’s drizzling but I say won’t turn up in the rain if it’s stairods,you have to use you’re loaf when they are paying good money.
I agree, my customers pay from £7 to £90 to have their house cleaned, wouldn't want to clean in driving rain for my million pound houses to have dirty windows the following day, I'd soon lose custom that way
If they are £5 council houses that's a different kettle of fish
You might lose the odd customer, but the financial benefit of working through outweighs any financial loss.
Spot on.
If you clean say £250 a day (or £500 for you big boys down south) then thats £250 gone forever, never to be recovered or seen again.
If you lose 1 customer at £12, well, you are still £238 better off than if you had been too scared to clean.
In fact you could have not cleaned all week and lost 2-3 for totally unrelated reasons.
If you keep turning up day after day no matter what at the end of the year you will be much better off financially that if you try and play it safe and second guess everyone, even if you have a cost to replace a few,
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I have pretty much weeded out all my "not today the weather's bad" types.
Yet Monday it almost surfaced again.
Mr. R says to me (just as I finish and collect payment ...)
"Do any of your customers ask you not to clean in weather like this?" (It wasn't even raining at that moment but there were showers on and off.)
Me: "No they don't Mr. R"
Mr. R: "I thought they would."
Me: "No. You're the first one to bring it up in a long while."
Mr. R: "Really? You surprise me!"
Me: (Levelly) "In my early days of window cleaning customers might try it on, but they quickly became ex-customers by the end of the conversation,"
Mr. R: (Laughing to cover embarrassment) "Understood. See you next time."
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It makes no difference to me I can make up for it by joining in very good jobs to cover a lost day here and there,just because you work in the rain don’t confuse the fact that people don’t mind in reality they are tolerating it if truth be told.
You are working in the rain due to the fact you employ staff so you are having to work in the rain,anyone worth their salt that’s done this job long enough can take the odd hit with a day off due to rain,the question is do people mind you cleaning their windows in the rain,99% I would say do mind but tolerate it every now and again regardless of you standing there explaining it makes no odds to the glass staying clean,if someone was cleaning my windows with it coming down in bucket loads of rain I’d mind.
Is this not judging the clients mimd of frame based on your own opinion?
Are you convinced that cleaning in the rain has a good or bad quality finish? Hence not wanting to start a hoise if its raining!
Obviously this is your choice and your right. All im saying is, for me i work in the rain as I know it makes no difference and i educate my customers and they all know this.
The first time i did so, i was sceptical but the very next day, a couple of my old dear customers told me they wasnt convinced untill i cleaned them the day before in the rain and they saw for themselves that it dried clear and they took the trouble to stop and tell me as they passed in their cars. This convinced me as it passed the old biddie test ;D
Therefore all my customers are treated the same. Yes a bigger, posh house would be charged more for various reasons, but i will not move on my work ethics incase they disagree.
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poor weather your window clean has been rescheduled for tomorrow, Wednesday the 13th March. Best Wishes...Marc
Just sent this out today, going to do an internal window clean this afternoon that was booked in tomorrow and swap over the work. Just having a bacon bagel, and preparing my scrims for this afternoons internal job..
some of the replies....
"Thanks...we did wonder ;D"
"Thanks, I believe strong tea and a warm sofa are necessary at these times of hardship! :D"
"Ok Marc, last thing i want is you blown up on the roof- see you tomorrow! :-*
If you rescheduled Tuesdays work for Wednesday, when will you do Wednesdays work? And so on and so on. Sounds like a right mess to sort out to me.
Just sent this out today, going to do an internal window clean this afternoon that was booked in tomorrow and swap over the work
Erm....did you read my post?
Its very easy to understand.
And its easier to text customers when there is a problem, than texting them every evening the day before that im coming to clean like most of you.
Its easier not to get in to that palaver in the first place.
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We offer a Weather Satisfaction Guarantee. If after we have done the clean and the windows dont dry to the normal standard we aim for, then give us a call and we will come back and do a full reclean for free, and offer a free clean the following month.
To this day, i've had like 3 customers take us up on this offer. However we have never once sacked the day off due to high winds or strong rain. I have wages to pay including my own. I'd rather lose the odd customer here and there due to cleaning in bad weather than sack the whole day off. We managed to do £500+ today despite really strong winds on the coast.
Rather lose the odd customer than risk not going out on bad weather days and lose a ton of money anyway from still having all our expenses yet no turnover in a day.
If you are a smaller business though i can understand taking the odd day off for bad weather, but not for me thanks.
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I had a patio laid a few years ago the blokes came to lay Indian sandstone when it was -2-3,I told them you’re not laying them today they said we’ve got to work I said not in these temperatures thanks when it goes off there will be cracks galore.
We all know that it takes the pee working in the rain but some still do because they have to for financial reasons although that doesn’t make it ok,I’m not talking showers here I’m talking proper prolonged rain that’s in for the day so to speak
i bet your one of them nightmare/messer customers most window cleaners dump nigel! ;D
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I never work in the pouring rain unless it’s a wash down or gutters,depends what they are paying if they are small jobs then fair enough but I wouldn’t want to upset or make it look like I’m taking the pee out of em when it’s lashing down,you can say it makes no difference all you like if it’s there opinion you are taking the pee then that’s all that matters they are paying.
I say to them I work if it’s drizzling but I say won’t turn up in the rain if it’s stairods,you have to use you’re loaf when they are paying good money.
I agree, my customers pay from £7 to £90 to have their house cleaned, wouldn't want to clean in driving rain for my million pound houses to have dirty windows the following day, I'd soon lose custom that way
If they are £5 council houses that's a different kettle of fish
So you fall into the category of pleasing socially well to do people and bow to their wims.
Obviously use common sense with what rain you are prepared to work in. However to ME, i wouldnt treat the well off any different to the poorer. They are only Human. If my service is good enough for one then its good enough for the next person and the same reason I work in the rain applies to them all.
I'm on about the relative price difference, I wouldn't want to pay £ 90 for window cleaning only for it to look terrible within 12 hours, £5 isn't so bad.
I try and treat everyone with the respect they deserve
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i have enough scheduled time off at xmas,summer holidays etc...sod having more time off because i might upset the odd customer,you WILL lose money over the course of a year if you sack it off every time we have bad weather...no doubt about it.....unless you like working long days,weekends to catch up(i dont)....
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I only work about 12 hours on the glass per week though 😂
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I never work in the pouring rain unless it’s a wash down or gutters,depends what they are paying if they are small jobs then fair enough but I wouldn’t want to upset or make it look like I’m taking the pee out of em when it’s lashing down,you can say it makes no difference all you like if it’s there opinion you are taking the pee then that’s all that matters they are paying.
I say to them I work if it’s drizzling but I say won’t turn up in the rain if it’s stairods,you have to use you’re loaf when they are paying good money.
I agree, my customers pay from £7 to £90 to have their house cleaned, wouldn't want to clean in driving rain for my million pound houses to have dirty windows the following day, I'd soon lose custom that way
If they are £5 council houses that's a different kettle of fish
So you fall into the category of pleasing socially well to do people and bow to their wims.
Obviously use common sense with what rain you are prepared to work in. However to ME, i wouldnt treat the well off any different to the poorer. They are only Human. If my service is good enough for one then its good enough for the next person and the same reason I work in the rain applies to them all.
I'm on about the relative price difference, I wouldn't want to pay £ 90 for window cleaning only for it to look terrible within 12 hours, £5 isn't so bad.
I try and treat everyone with the respect they deserve
The £5 may be a much bigger slice of disposable income than the £90. Not a very pleasant attitude towards poorer people.
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All 3 kitchen windows on the weather side of the house always spot after heavy rain.....rain is dirty....it might be near pure but there is dirt in it.
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All 3 kitchen windows on the weather side of the house always spot after heavy rain.....rain is dirty....it might be near pure but there is dirt in it.
stop looking for excuses.....just work in it..... ;D
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When I set out my stall I offered a rain guarantee inasmuch that I would reclean within 24 hours any windows that came up dirty.
In the fourteen years I have been wfp I have been asked to go back three times. Each time the only windows affected were the ones facing the weather so it wasn't as if I had to re-clean the whole house; just one or two sides at the most.
New customers get told I clean in showers and light rain. They all accept this. When one doesn't then they can find another window cleaner. Simples.
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45mph winds and heavy rain tomorrow, sod that. I’d rather stay warm and dry. I’m not that desperate. Might take the rest of the week off too. Why not? I am the boss after all. One of the perks of the job.
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Its funny how people have certain mind sets to say virtually all on here are self employed.
"If you work in the rain you must be desperate!"
"Customers, only tolerate you working in the rain"
"Its taking the P's working innthe rain"
"The poor dont mind as i dont care if if inloose the crumbs they pay compared to my posh customers" :o ;D
Really! I mean really!!! ::)roll
So when weve had a week of solid rain, how many will be moaning that theyve fell behind on their work or loss of income?? Or the inevitable,,,,,you are forced to go out and work in it regardless! Yet what remarkable thing happens? Thats right you loose all your work as the customers are not happy and all the windows look worse than they did before you cleaned them ::)roll ::)roll NO i dont think so!
But you still dont learn!
Ive spoken to quite a number of shiners in various parts of Scotland recently and one thing I asked was about the mindset of people because one thing scotland is known for is the rain! Their mindset is that work continues as normal and thats of the customers as well. Completely different to, oh look at that poor fella, he must be desperate!
Really, some of the responses on here are unbelievable
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I never work in the pouring rain unless it’s a wash down or gutters,depends what they are paying if they are small jobs then fair enough but I wouldn’t want to upset or make it look like I’m taking the pee out of em when it’s lashing down,you can say it makes no difference all you like if it’s there opinion you are taking the pee then that’s all that matters they are paying.
I say to them I work if it’s drizzling but I say won’t turn up in the rain if it’s stairods,you have to use you’re loaf when they are paying good money.
I agree, my customers pay from £7 to £90 to have their house cleaned, wouldn't want to clean in driving rain for my million pound houses to have dirty windows the following day, I'd soon lose custom that way
If they are £5 council houses that's a different kettle of fish
So you fall into the category of pleasing socially well to do people and bow to their wims.
Obviously use common sense with what rain you are prepared to work in. However to ME, i wouldnt treat the well off any different to the poorer. They are only Human. If my service is good enough for one then its good enough for the next person and the same reason I work in the rain applies to them all.
I'm on about the relative price difference, I wouldn't want to pay £ 90 for window cleaning only for it to look terrible within 12 hours, £5 isn't so bad.
I try and treat everyone with the respect they deserve
The £5 may be a much bigger slice of disposable income than the £90. Not a very pleasant attitude towards poorer people.
Let them eat cake!!!!
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What I really meant was, I can afford to lose the odd cheap house, don't want to lose the big rich ones though
There, is that better????
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Is a bacon bagel anti-Muslamic?
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;D
If it's raining, i will generally still work, just stick me waterproofs on.
If its high winds and rain like it was here in woking on Tuesday, nahh. Forget it.
You have to be sensible, its not about "being your own boss" or What the customer thinks, its about being able to see what your doing, as on Tuesday it was sideways sheets of water coming down and high gales..
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45mph winds and heavy rain tomorrow, sod that. I’d rather stay warm and dry. I’m not that desperate. Might take the rest of the week off too. Why not? I am the boss after all. One of the perks of the job.
fair enough dave....its true you can do what you want but you ve already resigned to having tomorrow off with that statement.....
it might have forecast 45mph winds(which are usually not that bad in reality as its not constant,thatll be the strongest gusts)and heavy rain(not raining here at the moment)which is very hit and miss.......
sod that...im not missing out on £200+ for 5 hours work because i might get a little bit wet.....im mainly on commercial so it doesnt matter.......splash and dash here i come! :D
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People can say what they like about working in the rain but I wouldn’t get misled into thinking because they may not say anything their happy about it,if someone is paying a lot of money to have there windows cleaned where I work the vast majority would say something if they got cleaned in the pouring rain.
Tbh honest I don’t blame them it’s all part of doing this job you have to accept the odd day that you can’t work because of it,employing doesn’t provide an excuse the customers are paying you we all have are jobs when we can get away with it but not on the whole I would say personally.
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So the vast majority of my work is on a 4 wkly basis and so its very easy maintenance cleans. We dont oftennget the sand storms etc and im certainly not on the coast and have to worry about seagull poop or salts etc. Therefore my windows are virtually clean by 4 weeks!
Yet I dont understand why? As the likes of some on this thread would say that rain water and the heavy downpours and high winds will blow all sorts of crud onto to windows during those four weeks. So i must be in some sort of fairy tale land because this simply isnt the case. I also certainly dont get customers who phone me saying its rained five minutes after i cleaned the windows and they are filthy again, could i come straight round 😂😂
Therefore it makes absolutely no difference if it rains before, during or after.
All my customers have been educated as to why i work in the rain and i remind them on the cleaned cards i leave. (All be it wrote on and trust me i print the word work now ;D ;D)
So it comes down to mindset whichbis the same as pricing. Some have the mindset of a customer when it comes to pricing. "I cant charge that i would be embarassed or told where to go"
Whilst others charge with a business mindset. Its absolutely the same in this case of working in the rain. The evidence; theres plenty of us who work in the rain and dont get call backs / dont loose work due to quality afterwards etc etc etc. But because in their own head, they wouldnt want their own windows cleaned in the rain they then feel that others wont either and therefore dont. Which again is fine its their choice. All im saying is dont tell the guys which dont have a problem doing so, desperate or foolish for doing so.
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People can say what they like about working in the rain but I wouldn’t get misled into thinking because they may not say anything their happy about it,if someone is paying a lot of money to have there windows cleaned where I work the vast majority would say something if they got cleaned in the pouring rain.
Tbh honest I don’t blame them it’s all part of doing this job you have to accept the odd day that you can’t work because of it,employing doesn’t provide an excuse the customers are paying you we all have are jobs when we can get away with it but not on the whole I would say personally.
How do you know this?
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He's carried out a survey.
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People can say what they like about working in the rain but I wouldn’t get misled into thinking because they may not say anything their happy about it,if someone is paying a lot of money to have there windows cleaned where I work the vast majority would say something if they got cleaned in the pouring rain.
Tbh honest I don’t blame them it’s all part of doing this job you have to accept the odd day that you can’t work because of it,employing doesn’t provide an excuse the customers are paying you we all have are jobs when we can get away with it but not on the whole I would say personally.
How do you know this?
I would say when it comes to complaining he's right, that said I would say its more a case of customers not really giving their windows a second thought that helps those who clean in all sorts get away with it, god help us all if customers ever decide to question value for money.
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So the vast majority of my work is on a 4 wkly basis and so its very easy maintenance cleans. We dont oftennget the sand storms etc and im certainly not on the coast and have to worry about seagull poop or salts etc. Therefore my windows are virtually clean by 4 weeks!
Yet I dont understand why? As the likes of some on this thread would say that rain water and the heavy downpours and high winds will blow all sorts of crud onto to windows during those four weeks. So i must be in some sort of fairy tale land because this simply isnt the case. I also certainly dont get customers who phone me saying its rained five minutes after i cleaned the windows and they are filthy again, could i come straight round 😂😂
Therefore it makes absolutely no difference if it rains before, during or after.
All my customers have been educated as to why i work in the rain and i remind them on the cleaned cards i leave. (All be it wrote on and trust me i print the word work now ;D ;D)
So it comes down to mindset whichbis the same as pricing. Some have the mindset of a customer when it comes to pricing. "I cant charge that i would be embarassed or told where to go"
Whilst others charge with a business mindset. Its absolutely the same in this case of working in the rain. The evidence; theres plenty of us who work in the rain and dont get call backs / dont loose work due to quality afterwards etc etc etc. But because in their own head, they wouldnt want their own windows cleaned in the rain they then feel that others wont either and therefore dont. Which again is fine its their choice. All im saying is dont tell the guys which dont have a problem doing so, desperate or foolish for doing so.
Iv seen me clean my own windows in stormy weather only to see them worse than before I cleaned them by the end of the day, have also experienced it on customers windows as well.
Theres working in the rain and theres working in the rain, a good shiner will know when its a pointless exercise, I dont know what your local weather was like yesterday but in what I experenced yesterday I would have no problem calling anyone cleaning windows in it desperate.
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Dry clean thank goodness someone sees it from my point of view,
Nathan you are doing 4 weekly maintenance cleans you are not charging a massive amount of money per clean I’m guessing so you are dealing with a different customer viewpoint,if I go to clean someone’s windows for over a couple of hundred quid in the lashing rain they are going to quibble whether I may be taking the urine.
If you buy something from a shop or something for work that’s cheap and doesn’t do the job you Chuck it in the bin and put it down to experience because it was cheap,if you are paying 10-15 quid for you’re Windows in the rain oh well next month it’ll probably be done in the dry,think of the same scenario if you’re paying over 100-200 quid it would make you question things a bit more.
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Think back to the good old days of traditional cleaning we accepted then if it rained we couldn’t work it was a big part of doing the job,methods might have changed but most customers attitude towards window cleaning and rain haven’t a great deal in my experience.
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Think back to the good old days of traditional cleaning we accepted then if it rained we couldn’t work it was a big part of doing the job,methods might have changed but most customers attitude towards window cleaning and rain haven’t a great deal in my experience.
Im not disagreeing with the fact that theres a limit as to what rain type/conditions people can work in. Thats not my point!
My point is, if im prepared to work in the rain it makes no difference ti the customer type that im going to clean. I wouldnt think im working on posh house 1 today so best skip it.
On above point, thats why its a case of educating customers. Many still think its beer money work etc but they are starting to be educated. Also the same with telling some folks "yes the windows dry on their own, i dont take the water off" 😂😂
Its no different to starting to educate that new methods mean u can work successfully in the rain
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Nathan it’s not down to whether or not you want to work in the rain m8 it’s if the customer minds you doing it,I’m not talking about small jobs where’s if you lose the odd few it won’t make a difference I’m on about the larger houses that pay a lot more and expect some sort of input as far as when you can be let in to clean etc.
I’m not cleaning a huge amount of houses a day to earn a crust m8.
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Nathan have you tried educating a bloke in a tweed suit or a woman with attitude in a Barbour coat lol,they have lots of money but their not all daft m8.
If I stood there explaining the scientific side of WFPole window cleaning they would think I don’t care I don’t want my windows cleaned in the rain,you have to be realistic they are paying.
What am I gonna do say I clean in the rain it’s my choice you still have to put up with it 😂,I don’t mind taking the odd sucker punch if I’m cleaning there windows for a lot of money on yearly basis.
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Nathan it’s not down to whether or not you want to work in the rain m8 it’s if the customer minds you doing it,I’m not talking about small jobs where’s if you lose the odd few it won’t make a difference I’m on about the larger houses that pay a lot more and expect some sort of input as far as when you can be let in to clean etc.
I’m not cleaning a huge amount of houses a day to earn a crust m8.
Wrong. If your customers mind and you want to work, you drop the customer. There are plenty that won't mind.
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Nathan have you tried educating a bloke in a tweed suit or a woman with attitude in a Barbour coat lol,they have lots of money but their not all daft m8.
If I stood there explaining the scientific side of WFPole window cleaning they would think I don’t care I don’t want my windows cleaned in the rain,you have to be realistic they are paying.
What am I gonna do say I clean in the rain it’s my choice you still have to put up with it 😂,I don’t mind taking the odd sucker punch if I’m cleaning there windows for a lot of money on yearly basis.
Don't clean that one then. Simple.
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Nathan it’s not down to whether or not you want to work in the rain m8 it’s if the customer minds you doing it,I’m not talking about small jobs where’s if you lose the odd few it won’t make a difference I’m on about the larger houses that pay a lot more and expect some sort of input as far as when you can be let in to clean etc.
I’m not cleaning a huge amount of houses a day to earn a crust m8.
Mate, i appreciate that and you have your views and work principles and clearly mine are different as I have the same ethic regardless of the price and wealth and that does not mean I will loose the job because i will explain and educate about working in the rain etc etc etc. Yes at the end of the day if the customer wants to reschedule they can do so. I give all my customers that chance. However I then start looking at gaining a replacememt so when that happens again it will be the last. Thats regardles of the price of the job.
So i ammicably agree to dissgree ;D
However, these high winds and battling walking and poling in it, is another thing entirely 😂 its bin day today so Im also dodging flying boxes and bins skidding over the roads. Im tired today due to some very late nights (im a bad sleeper ::)roll) and im feeling drained. So its a short day today, im knocking off
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Nathan have you tried educating a bloke in a tweed suit or a woman with attitude in a Barbour coat lol,they have lots of money but their not all daft m8.
If I stood there explaining the scientific side of WFPole window cleaning they would think I don’t care I don’t want my windows cleaned in the rain,you have to be realistic they are paying.
What am I gonna do say I clean in the rain it’s my choice you still have to put up with it 😂,I don’t mind taking the odd sucker punch if I’m cleaning there windows for a lot of money on yearly basis.
Mate, i hate tweed wearing chaps who all beit have the money, I hate their snobbish attitude and regardless of price I would not take the job on.
On the other hand, I know a billionnaire who made his own money as in didnt come from wealth and he is the most down to earth chap. Apart from his expensive taste in clothes, if he was in a room with a mix of 30 blokes, you wouldnt know he was the billionnaire.
Im sorry, i have different viewpoints and if that means I miss out on well paying jobs because I dont like the attitude and look down the nose attitude then thats my choice. However, I will be firm and respectful on my work ethic if we are speaking face to face and if they wish for someone else to bend to their viewpoint, then thats fine. As I said previous, they get one strike like everybody else and then im prepping to replace them from that point.
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Nathan I think there is a good reason you don’t get customers phoning you to complain about the state of their windows after you’ve cleaned them during stormy weather....and it’s not because they’re happy with the job....it’s because you don’t have the correct contact number on your cards😂
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Nathan I think there is a good reason you don’t get customers phoning you to complain about the state of their windows after you’ve cleaned them during stormy weather....and it’s not because they’re happy with the job....it’s because you don’t have the correct contact number on your cards😂
It works out lovely ;D ;D
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what rain?..... :)
while you guys have been arguing about working in the rain on here( not working today chaps?)ive gone out,done my scheduled work,didnt even get a single drop of the stuff despite the forecast saying we would...... 8)
10am-230pm with 30 mins for lunch as usual so 4 hours worked and i got every job cleaned....i started a bit later because i had a dentist check up first thing this morning,i actually thought it would take me longer but i was flying today.....
YES it was very windy at times but not constant......even had a bit of sunshine...... :)
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Yep me too, started at 11 am, it was a bit blustery this morning, finished at 3:30. Ching ching.
Worked yesterday, started at 7 am was finished at 2:30. Then went out on the bike for a blast, and its MOT it passed.. ching ching.
Ching flipping ching