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Title: Metal hose rollers to avoid/floor rollers with bearings (merged thread)
Post by: stevieg on February 06, 2019, 01:41:18 pm
I have in the past bought Redash metal rollers but over time these wore out/broke so I recently bought new ones (not Redash) from a cleaning company that most of you have probably heard of (through E bay) My initial thoughts were very favourable as they seemed nice and sturdy and up to the job!! How wrong I was. Within 2 days they have seized up and despite me trying to free them it has proved impossible. Obviously I have been on to the company who seem to think that i should have "oiled or lubricated" them from the start (this information is not included in any paperwork, Oh hold on,there isnt any!!) They came unlubricated and my previous rollers never needed lubricating in all of the years that I used them. I wont at this stage mention the company as I am still hoping for a resolution and I dont know how the moderators feel about naming and shaming companies. Anybody else had this problem?? I cant believe that i am the only person that has!!
Title: Re: Metal hose rollers to avoid/Through floor rollers with bearings (merged thread)
Post by: Smudger on February 06, 2019, 04:20:16 pm
We’re they cheaper ? If so you now know why

If your getting something mechanical always buy quality not on cost

Darran
Title: Re: Metal hose rollers to avoid/Through floor rollers with bearings (merged thread)
Post by: stevieg on February 06, 2019, 04:27:03 pm
Actually, they were not!!  I have had further communication from the company who now state that i should have oiled them myself before use!! I would have thought that they would have come pre-oiled if that was the case or at least came with some grease (not that I would want that stuff contaminating the hose) I have used other metal rollers and never needed to oil them!!! and i would guess that no one  else has either!!!
Title: Re: Metal hose rollers to avoid/Through floor rollers with bearings (merged thread)
Post by: andyM on February 06, 2019, 04:42:12 pm
Name and shame!  (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1549471327_grin.gif)
Title: Re: Metal hose rollers to avoid/Through floor rollers with bearings (merged thread)
Post by: stevieg on February 06, 2019, 04:52:44 pm
That is very close to happening!!!
Title: Re: Metal hose rollers to avoid/Through floor rollers with bearings (merged thread)
Post by: stevieg on February 06, 2019, 05:01:22 pm
This post is an addendum to my other post re the above.   I have had metal rollers from other companies and have never been advised or needed to lubricate them. Has anyone else ever oiled theirs ?

Mod note: As this was the  first (and only) post in the third topic on this subject by you I have merged it into this topic. One topic on an issue is fine, two is more than enough; three just ain't happening!
Title: Re: Metal hose rollers to avoid/Through floor rollers with bearings (merged thread)
Post by: stevieg on February 06, 2019, 05:02:42 pm
They are flat refusing to refund the item and insist that it is my fault.(cleaning warehouse)
Title: Re: Metal hose rollers to avoid/Through floor rollers with bearings (merged thread)
Post by: Smudger on February 06, 2019, 06:15:09 pm
It’s reasonable to assume that the rollers have bearings and these should have grease in them- no need for customer to oil them (which wouldn’t last long)

I would inform them that you require a full refund (28 days no quibble if brought online) or your going to trading standards

Darran
Title: Re: Metal hose rollers to avoid/Through floor rollers with bearings (merged thread)
Post by: The Jester of Wibbly on February 06, 2019, 06:20:38 pm
You have then legally right for a full refund.   If you bought from eBay just start a dispute with a faulty item. You will win
Title: Re: Metal hose rollers to avoid/Through floor rollers with bearings (merged thread)
Post by: Dazzler3370 on February 06, 2019, 07:14:20 pm
Ring Paul up from Pure Freedom and he will make you some of these. They are on bearings, I have had them 8 months and still like brand new.

Dazzler  ;D
Title: Re: Metal hose rollers to avoid/Through floor rollers with bearings (merged thread)
Post by: a900 on February 06, 2019, 07:33:29 pm
Does anyone know and recommend roller guides with ball bearings rather than plastic bushings?

The bushing last no time and I converted 2 to run with bearings but they only last so long. Need new ones and don’t want the far of retrofitting bearings.
Title: Re: Metal hose rollers to avoid/Through floor rollers with bearings (merged thread)
Post by: AuRavelling79 on February 06, 2019, 07:35:44 pm
This is the thread to use for anything to do with hose roller guides ...  ;D
Title: Re: Metal hose rollers to avoid/Through floor rollers with bearings (merged thread)
Post by: Dazzler3370 on February 06, 2019, 07:40:00 pm
Ring paul from Pure Freedom, he made me some which run on bearings. Had them 8 months still like new and they run silent.

You can use my name if you need to Darren Finch 
Title: Re: Metal hose rollers to avoid/floor rollers with bearings (merged thread)
Post by: Stoots on February 06, 2019, 11:02:20 pm
Generally you have 30 days if a product is not fit for purpose via the consumer rights act.

If you bought them off eBay you would win if it was faulty, at the very  least you have 14 days to return an item bought from a business seller. Not sure on how this works past 14 days though.

The only downside Incan see is you have admitted spraying them with WD40 which acts as a degreaser so that could go against you.

If they won't refund you and you are determined to get your money back then take it further or just drop it and suck it up.
Title: Re: Metal hose rollers to avoid/Through floor rollers with bearings (merged thread)
Post by: a900 on February 07, 2019, 04:35:47 pm
Ring paul from Pure Freedom, he made me some which run on bearings. Had them 8 months still like new and they run silent.

You can use my name if you need to Darren Finch

Any idea on price?
Title: Re: Metal hose rollers to avoid/floor rollers with bearings (merged thread)
Post by: Michael Peterson on February 07, 2019, 06:36:45 pm
I have two from waterworks , need cleaning a little bit still fine I just don’t use them anymore , you can have them if you like they work fine we’ve used them for about a year
Title: Re: Metal hose rollers to avoid/floor rollers with bearings (merged thread)
Post by: High-Tower on February 07, 2019, 07:23:23 pm
https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_odkw=winch+rollers&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR3.TRC1.A0.H0.Xwinch+roller.TRS0&_nkw=winch+roller&_sacat=0 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_odkw=winch+rollers&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR3.TRC1.A0.H0.Xwinch+roller.TRS0&_nkw=winch+roller&_sacat=0)
Title: Re: Metal hose rollers to avoid/floor rollers with bearings (merged thread)
Post by: DeLuce on February 07, 2019, 11:51:06 pm
I made my own rollers.
Easy to do and you can make them as wide or narrow as you like for your needs.
I bought stainless steel tubing of eBay 2cm which stated their internal diameter. I then matched the internal diameter with a sealed roller bearings.
I made a simple frame from metal sheeting, it doesn’t need to be thick metal, maybe 5mm,
Bought long threaded metal rod and nuts and washers. Cut to length and ready to bolt to floor or reel.
It takes a bit of time to get the placement of the rollers in your head, but just look at good examples on the internet and you get the idea.