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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Shrek on January 23, 2019, 09:03:42 am
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It’s bloody slippery out there!! The rest of the month is looking good though ( above zero degrees anyway)
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Haha. These posts make me laugh.
We are quick enough to dump and do the flounce on customers who cancel at the last minute, but its ok for us to do the same.
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Thats the privilege you get when you don't tie yourself to a particular date for your next visit.
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The ice is thick on the window sills , no chance of doing a proper job with cold water . But like slacky said , I’m not tied in to any dates so happy days
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Haha. These posts make me laugh.
We are quick enough to dump and do the flounce on customers who cancel at the last minute, but its ok for us to do the same.
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We don't all dump and flounce (there could be a dance, there) though if there's good reason for a cancellation.
Most customers, imo, would accept today as good reason for a cancellation on our part.
I might go out later but only if I fancy it.
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-2 here when starting out, first 6 houses froze on the glass ....never mind it'll melt. And the sills yeh they were solid they won't have been cleaned properly.... :P
Just about workable now 1 degree, I did consider sacking it off but almost always when I sack work off it turns out it's actually doable with a bit of determination.
Somedays of course it's just hopeless but most of the time work can be done in almost any weather.
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-3 here this morning and face n ears pretty cold. Windscreen frozen over...........
But then i remembered ive got a tank full of hot water! Turn on transfer hose for back pack and a quick splash on windscreen and all is good!
Yes i could also choose to not work today but nah, the joys of hot water😎
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Awww u bunch of big girls blouses. ;D
Got the heater on tickover, its sitting at 0 degrees here, and a small bit of sleet, boiler keeping the flow no probs, and hands warm on pole and hoses.
I don't know how i managed last year with cold water in these tempratures.. ;D
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-3 here this morning and face n ears pretty cold. Windscreen frozen over...........
But then i remembered ive got a tank full of hot water! Turn on transfer hose for back pack and a quick splash on windscreen and all is good!
Yes i could also choose to not work today but nah, the joys of hot water😎
You remembered you had water? How long did you forget for?
I can give you some links to videos of your hot water system if you need or ever forget again ;D.
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-3 here this morning and face n ears pretty cold. Windscreen frozen over...........
But then i remembered ive got a tank full of hot water! Turn on transfer hose for back pack and a quick splash on windscreen and all is good!
Yes i could also choose to not work today but nah, the joys of hot water😎
You remembered you had water? How long did you forget for?
I can give you some links to videos of your hot water system if you need or ever forget again ;D.
Haha i understand ur sarcasm, perhaps i need to work on mine.
Frozen windscreen or even snow etc isnt a worry at all, even if it comes without warning.
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Bloomin freezin', i aint going out in that.
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Bloomin freezin', i aint going out in that.
Me neither.
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Spot on here , van and TDS meter say it’s 14 but phone says 7 ???
Even the chimps are havin lunch up in the trees!
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1548246363_32EEED68-D7A5-4039-88C5-528EA9B7CDA8.png)
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-2 here when starting out, first 6 houses froze on the glass ....never mind it'll melt. And the sills yeh they were solid they won't have been cleaned properly.... :P
Just about workable now 1 degree, I did consider sacking it off but almost always when I sack work off it turns out it's actually doable with a bit of determination.
Somedays of course it's just hopeless but most of the time work can be done in almost any weather.
When your customers own million pound houses and pay you good money , you may want to think twice about not cleaning the sills properly which is why I sacked it off
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IMO, what's more important in sub-zero temperatures is not whether you are able to work but consideration for any slip hazard you are going to cause!! If you haven't got the sense to acknowledge this then you shouldn't be out splashing water all over the place!
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IMO, what's more important in sub-zero temperatures is not whether you are able to work but consideration for any slip hazard you are going to cause!! If you haven't got the sense to acknowledge this then you shouldn't be out splashing water all over the place!
In general, skip doors or cloth them, then there's no issue.
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Just keep some grit with you in the van.
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First time I have seen the water freeze on the glass in the house.
I have seen it in an unheated conservatory before but not the house.
We do the doors dry.
If there's a window over the door, brush any standing water away and put some salt down - proper clean salt not that dirty stuff with sand in it.
Txt customers to warn them of possibility of ice and the salt, it's probably dark when they arrive home.
Bit if a faff but at least we're still working.
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Water froze at the brush head! Narrow 6mm hose and water in the tank was low temp around 15c so when the new guy said his water stopped and I went back to my pole the brush head was frozen, It was -5 according to the van.
Delivering letters round the houses instead and I went on my arse, right onto my bad wrist! Thank fook it's held up.
Roll on tomorrow.
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First time I have seen the water freeze on the glass in the house.
I have seen it in an unheated conservatory before but not the house.
We do the doors dry.
If there's a window over the door, brush any standing water away and put some salt down - proper clean salt not that dirty stuff with sand in it.
Txt customers to warn them of possibility of ice and the salt, it's probably dark when they arrive home.
Bit if a faff but at least we're still working.
I do not think texting your customers to warn them you have likely created a trip hazard for them by cleaning their windows looks good, and is a very bad idea.
It would not protect you from being liable were they to fall and injure themselves. Quite the opposite, it would leave you more open to being prosecuted.
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-2 here when starting out, first 6 houses froze on the glass ....never mind it'll melt. And the sills yeh they were solid they won't have been cleaned properly.... :P
Just about workable now 1 degree, I did consider sacking it off but almost always when I sack work off it turns out it's actually doable with a bit of determination.
Somedays of course it's just hopeless but most of the time work can be done in almost any weather.
When your customers own million pound houses and pay you good money , you may want to think twice about not cleaning the sills properly which is why I sacked it off
My customers don't own million pound property's nor pay particularly good money :) which is why I take a more slap dash approach these days. In the past I've been guilty of over cleaning and giving too many fecks. Decided this year to not be so OCD and concentrate on earning money....which means working on days I wouldn't have in the past...stack em high approach.
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IMO, what's more important in sub-zero temperatures is not whether you are able to work but consideration for any slip hazard you are going to cause!! If you haven't got the sense to acknowledge this then you shouldn't be out splashing water all over the place!
In general, skip doors or cloth them, then there's no issue.
Absolutely! With common sense you aint gonna course no slip hazards.
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(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1548258624_17DD5992-EEA5-4700-8523-E65997850969.jpeg)
Just warm water, window must have been stressed 😫
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IMO, what's more important in sub-zero temperatures is not whether you are able to work but consideration for any slip hazard you are going to cause!! If you haven't got the sense to acknowledge this then you shouldn't be out splashing water all over the place!
In general, skip doors or cloth them, then there's no issue.
Absolutely! With common sense you aint gonna course no slip hazards.
And the path all way round the house?
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After an hour with heater in van went to work at 1030. Had no problems except cold hands when taking gloves off between jobs. Finished at 3 and full day earnings wise!
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normal day here...apart from i started a bit later(10am)...it was reading -2 this morning in the van and 1c this afternoon....finished at 3pm....its amazing what work you can get cleaned in 4 and a half hours.....happy days...
im on course for my best january ever earnings wise....... :)
hot soup at lunchtime and flask of tea certainly helps on a day like this.... :P
ive got ice melt grit in the van and a sweeping brush but didnt need them today.......scrimmed most doors......
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After an hour with heater in van went to work at 1030. Had no problems except cold hands when taking gloves off between jobs. Finished at 3 and full day earnings wise!
why do you take your gloves off between jobs?i only take mine off at lunchtime...hands toasty this morning with my neoprene gloves on(first time ive needed to use them this winter)...
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-8 for me this morning!!
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-2 when I started today...full day with no problems ;)
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Good for me today. All front doors cleaned by hand.
Picked the grandkids up from school too.
Go to go and feed them now!
I wonder if I can just fill them full of sweets... ;D
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-8 for me this morning!!
thats a day off for me at those temperatures!even a hot water system would be no use! ::)roll
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After an hour with heater in van went to work at 1030. Had no problems except cold hands when taking gloves off between jobs. Finished at 3 and full day earnings wise!
why do you take your gloves off between jobs?i only take mine off at lunchtime...hands toasty this morning with my neoprene gloves on(first time ive needed to use them this winter)...
I take them off to drive maybe I should leaving them on! Though I do find it difficult to have a pee whilst having my gloves on.
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IMO, what's more important in sub-zero temperatures is not whether you are able to work but consideration for any slip hazard you are going to cause!! If you haven't got the sense to acknowledge this then you shouldn't be out splashing water all over the place!
In general, skip doors or cloth them, then there's no issue.
Absolutely! With common sense you aint gonna course no slip hazards.
And the path all way round the house?
Are you for real with this or just looking for objections on going out? Or do you splash/spray water completely every where?
The huge majority of my work do not have their pathways or driveways butted against the very edge of their house. The majority have a border and if not, they have a drain away.
The vast majority of the water from upstairs windows fall onto the wall directly under the sill towards the downstairs windows.
Same for the downstairs or if not it falls/sweeps into the garden etc below.
Failing that and you get water everywhere and youn deem it a risk then carry rock salt with you and nip to van and bring some out.
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Did one back out of sun and packed in......contrary to what Nathan says the water does get on the pathway.....leafleted the rest of the street as this was four houses in a row that hadn't seen their w/c for 8 months......when I checked the back later it was freezing on the path.....all sills frozen as well.....
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Record day for me!
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Record day for me!
Not a record day for me , but it did cover my tax bill , which was nice ;D
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IMO, what's more important in sub-zero temperatures is not whether you are able to work but consideration for any slip hazard you are going to cause!! If you haven't got the sense to acknowledge this then you shouldn't be out splashing water all over the place!
In general, skip doors or cloth them, then there's no issue.
Absolutely! With common sense you aint gonna course no slip hazards.
And the path all way round the house?
Are you for real with this or just looking for objections on going out? Or do you splash/spray water completely every where?
The huge majority of my work do not have their pathways or driveways butted against the very edge of their house. The majority have a border and if not, they have a drain away.
The vast majority of the water from upstairs windows fall onto the wall directly under the sill towards the downstairs windows.
Same for the downstairs or if not it falls/sweeps into the garden etc below.
Failing that and you get water everywhere and youn deem it a risk then carry rock salt with you and nip to van and bring some out.
Idiot!! ::)roll
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-3 here this morning and face n ears pretty cold. Windscreen frozen over...........
But then i remembered ive got a tank full of hot water! Turn on transfer hose for back pack and a quick splash on windscreen and all is good!
Yes i could also choose to not work today but nah, the joys of hot water😎
You remembered you had water? How long did you forget for?
I can give you some links to videos of your hot water system if you need or ever forget again ;D.
He only works 20 days a year and 19 of them are in bad weather.
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-3 here this morning and face n ears pretty cold. Windscreen frozen over...........
But then i remembered ive got a tank full of hot water! Turn on transfer hose for back pack and a quick splash on windscreen and all is good!
Yes i could also choose to not work today but nah, the joys of hot water😎
You remembered you had water? How long did you forget for?
I can give you some links to videos of your hot water system if you need or ever forget again ;D.
He only works 20 days a year and 19 of them are in bad weather.
His water also goes skywards- the only wfp operator to not wet the ground!! ;D
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No-one has mentioned the Mpemba effect for a while ❄️.
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Dont mock him boys , my water is that HOT HOT HOT it dries before it hits the deck ;D
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No-one has mentioned the Mpemba effect for a while ❄️.
I dont think I have had the pleasure , please do enlighten me Mr Griffin ;D
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Dont mock him boys , my water is that HOT HOT HOT it dries before it hits the deck ;D
Well didnt want to boast but its that hot im actually cleaning with steam instead
😂😂😂
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;D😆🤣🤣🤣
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Funnily enough, I had my highest earning day yesterday for several weeks, and there was a marginally delayed start. My hands suffered badly about twenty minutes in, but once I got through the pain barrier I coped pretty well. I ended up on the glass from about 9.45 until 4 (apart from a short rest around 1.30), and it was still light enough at 4. If I had a small, straightforward house to do nearby, I would have done that too.
I did lose most of a day to frozen pipes on another day though, and it may well be like that this morning. It was minus 2 around 9 pm last night so I brought the reel and a few bits in, plus I disconnected the pipes to and from the pump. I have a system where I push fit a piece of tubing into the JG fitting between tank and pump to stop the tank draining and I ensure the other end of it is raised to prevent syphoning. The connectors can still freeze but at least the pump is protected from water expansion as it freezes.
N.B. I have no access to heat the van due to living in a flat.
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IMO, what's more important in sub-zero temperatures is not whether you are able to work but consideration for any slip hazard you are going to cause!! If you haven't got the sense to acknowledge this then you shouldn't be out splashing water all over the place!
In general, skip doors or cloth them, then there's no issue.
Absolutely! With common sense you aint gonna course no slip hazards.
And the path all way round the house?
Why would you get water on the path other than the odd spot? Unless you're using a pressure washer.
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IMO, what's more important in sub-zero temperatures is not whether you are able to work but consideration for any slip hazard you are going to cause!! If you haven't got the sense to acknowledge this then you shouldn't be out splashing water all over the place!
In general, skip doors or cloth them, then there's no issue.
Absolutely! With common sense you aint gonna course no slip hazards.
And the path all way round the house?
Why would you get water on the path other than the odd spot? Unless you're using a pressure washer.
Does your water go uphill too? ::)roll
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The fact that jellyfish have survived for over 5 million years despite having no brains gives hope to many window cleaners.
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Bit warmer here today only -5 at the mo'!!
Seen Bristol live on BBC news earlier this morning with no frost at all.
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-5 here in woking this morning. By the weekend its due to get back up to 9 degrees..
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Youll be pleased to know that no I havent done a video 😂😂 or taken pictures.
But this morning im working in quite a nice area but its out in the sticks and black ice mostly everywhere. So i thought inwould just pay attention to what im actually doing and seeing rather than working on auto pilot as it were.
To see if im leaving any slip risk to customers as some have suggested.
So top windows, where the plastic sill over hangs the building. Yes the water falls off (no suprise), however where does it land and does it cause significant spillage to worry about causing more ice and become a risk for customers?
No! All i can do is speak from my experience. But after each window is cleaned i turn the water off and then wipe the sills. This limits the water spillage considerably and by wiping it with the brush it disperses it over a period of space as it laurches onto the ground or across the brick work of the house.
So far on the downstairs windows and conservatories ive cleaned this morning, again the same type of method. However the water falls straight down. For me, my custosmers have pots under the windows, some have little borders of bedding plants and others have slabs or concrete or whatever. So once ive finished and packed up ive walked back aroumd the houses to see if im mistaken and there is infact puddles and streaks across the paths where foot traffic would be and it has infact become an issue. But No, again this is not my experience. Walls under the sills are wet and there may be very small pools of water very close to the property, as in inches away from the house. Certainly not anywhere were foot traffic would be unless your a peeping tom stood right by the window.
Ok, ive only cleaned 7 houses so far today so maybe later i might be proved wrong. But my experience is that im certainly not flooding each window to cause flooding on walkways or paths around the property for it to freeze or be a problem to the customers.
I would do a vid to show n back up or take some b4 n after photos to show, but the ground is wet and on the photo i took you couldnt see clearly the difference between what ive wet and the ground being wet. Obviously you could in person, but the camera doesnt.
So perhaps its a vid for my channel in summer and that way you can see what part of the ground gets wet and by how much.
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Unless customers walk on their walls, there's no risk of a slip risk other than doors. Some people are afraid of their customers. It's a window cleaning thing.
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IMO, what's more important in sub-zero temperatures is not whether you are able to work but consideration for any slip hazard you are going to cause!! If you haven't got the sense to acknowledge this then you shouldn't be out splashing water all over the place!
In general, skip doors or cloth them, then there's no issue.
Absolutely! With common sense you aint gonna course no slip hazards.
And the path all way round the house?
Why would you get water on the path other than the odd spot? Unless you're using a pressure washer.
Does your water go uphill too? ::)roll
Suprisingly yes, it goes 30 ft high via a rhino hose and a slx carbon pole powered by a 5ltr per min pump if u must know
;D ;D
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Unless customers walk on their walls, there's no risk of a slip risk other than doors. Some people are afraid of their customers. It's a window cleaning thing.
Some customers are scared of window cleaners in some areas. They might get dragged out the house by their hair if they ask them to come back later for money
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I just start a bit later / finish a bit earlier. I used to sack it off but now even if its only 3 jobs I'd sooner chip away at my to do list. I'm cold water in a pick up but if need be stick the back pack in the cab with the 25 and use that until things warm up. My bigger problem just now is getting the truck started first thing ! ( new glow plugs on order for the weekend ) Took 15 mins this morning ! :'(
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-8 for me this morning!!
thats a day off for me at those temperatures!even a hot water system would be no use! ::)roll
Worked last year in the snow in minus 8 with hot water. 2 of us working with only the one set up to keep the flow going. Because the snow was down already didn’t have to worry about making paths slippy.
Had a laugh getting stuck in the snow in van a couple of times. Got out with a shovel and passers by pushing us
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Youll be pleased to know that no I havent done a video 😂😂 or taken pictures.
But this morning im working in quite a nice area but its out in the sticks and black ice mostly everywhere. So i thought inwould just pay attention to what im actually doing and seeing rather than working on auto pilot as it were.
To see if im leaving any slip risk to customers as some have suggested.
So top windows, where the plastic sill over hangs the building. Yes the water falls off (no suprise), however where does it land and does it cause significant spillage to worry about causing more ice and become a risk for customers?
No! All i can do is speak from my experience. But after each window is cleaned i turn the water off and then wipe the sills. This limits the water spillage considerably and by wiping it with the brush it disperses it over a period of space as it laurches onto the ground or across the brick work of the house.
So far on the downstairs windows and conservatories ive cleaned this morning, again the same type of method. However the water falls straight down. For me, my custosmers have pots under the windows, some have little borders of bedding plants and others have slabs or concrete or whatever. So once ive finished and packed up ive walked back aroumd the houses to see if im mistaken and there is infact puddles and streaks across the paths where foot traffic would be and it has infact become an issue. But No, again this is not my experience. Walls under the sills are wet and there may be very small pools of water very close to the property, as in inches away from the house. Certainly not anywhere were foot traffic would be unless your a peeping tom stood right by the window.
Ok, ive only cleaned 7 houses so far today so maybe later i might be proved wrong. But my experience is that im certainly not flooding each window to cause flooding on walkways or paths around the property for it to freeze or be a problem to the customers.
I would do a vid to show n back up or take some b4 n after photos to show, but the ground is wet and on the photo i took you couldnt see clearly the difference between what ive wet and the ground being wet. Obviously you could in person, but the camera doesnt.
So perhaps its a vid for my channel in summer and that way you can see what part of the ground gets wet and by how much.
. Jesus Wept! Is there a book coming out?
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Youll be pleased to know that no I havent done a video 😂😂 or taken pictures.
But this morning im working in quite a nice area but its out in the sticks and black ice mostly everywhere. So i thought inwould just pay attention to what im actually doing and seeing rather than working on auto pilot as it were.
To see if im leaving any slip risk to customers as some have suggested.
So top windows, where the plastic sill over hangs the building. Yes the water falls off (no suprise), however where does it land and does it cause significant spillage to worry about causing more ice and become a risk for customers?
No! All i can do is speak from my experience. But after each window is cleaned i turn the water off and then wipe the sills. This limits the water spillage considerably and by wiping it with the brush it disperses it over a period of space as it laurches onto the ground or across the brick work of the house.
So far on the downstairs windows and conservatories ive cleaned this morning, again the same type of method. However the water falls straight down. For me, my custosmers have pots under the windows, some have little borders of bedding plants and others have slabs or concrete or whatever. So once ive finished and packed up ive walked back aroumd the houses to see if im mistaken and there is infact puddles and streaks across the paths where foot traffic would be and it has infact become an issue. But No, again this is not my experience. Walls under the sills are wet and there may be very small pools of water very close to the property, as in inches away from the house. Certainly not anywhere were foot traffic would be unless your a peeping tom stood right by the window.
Ok, ive only cleaned 7 houses so far today so maybe later i might be proved wrong. But my experience is that im certainly not flooding each window to cause flooding on walkways or paths around the property for it to freeze or be a problem to the customers.
I would do a vid to show n back up or take some b4 n after photos to show, but the ground is wet and on the photo i took you couldnt see clearly the difference between what ive wet and the ground being wet. Obviously you could in person, but the camera doesnt.
So perhaps its a vid for my channel in summer and that way you can see what part of the ground gets wet and by how much.
. Jesus Wept! Is there a book coming out?
😂
John
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Youll be pleased to know that no I havent done a video 😂😂 or taken pictures.
But this morning im working in quite a nice area but its out in the sticks and black ice mostly everywhere. So i thought inwould just pay attention to what im actually doing and seeing rather than working on auto pilot as it were.
To see if im leaving any slip risk to customers as some have suggested.
So top windows, where the plastic sill over hangs the building. Yes the water falls off (no suprise), however where does it land and does it cause significant spillage to worry about causing more ice and become a risk for customers?
No! All i can do is speak from my experience. But after each window is cleaned i turn the water off and then wipe the sills. This limits the water spillage considerably and by wiping it with the brush it disperses it over a period of space as it laurches onto the ground or across the brick work of the house.
So far on the downstairs windows and conservatories ive cleaned this morning, again the same type of method. However the water falls straight down. For me, my custosmers have pots under the windows, some have little borders of bedding plants and others have slabs or concrete or whatever. So once ive finished and packed up ive walked back aroumd the houses to see if im mistaken and there is infact puddles and streaks across the paths where foot traffic would be and it has infact become an issue. But No, again this is not my experience. Walls under the sills are wet and there may be very small pools of water very close to the property, as in inches away from the house. Certainly not anywhere were foot traffic would be unless your a peeping tom stood right by the window.
Ok, ive only cleaned 7 houses so far today so maybe later i might be proved wrong. But my experience is that im certainly not flooding each window to cause flooding on walkways or paths around the property for it to freeze or be a problem to the customers.
I would do a vid to show n back up or take some b4 n after photos to show, but the ground is wet and on the photo i took you couldnt see clearly the difference between what ive wet and the ground being wet. Obviously you could in person, but the camera doesnt.
So perhaps its a vid for my channel in summer and that way you can see what part of the ground gets wet and by how much.
. Jesus Wept! Is there a book coming out?
Yep, it's called "how to justify desperation"
;D ;D ;D
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Youll be pleased to know that no I havent done a video 😂😂 or taken pictures.
But this morning im working in quite a nice area but its out in the sticks and black ice mostly everywhere. So i thought inwould just pay attention to what im actually doing and seeing rather than working on auto pilot as it were.
To see if im leaving any slip risk to customers as some have suggested.
So top windows, where the plastic sill over hangs the building. Yes the water falls off (no suprise), however where does it land and does it cause significant spillage to worry about causing more ice and become a risk for customers?
No! All i can do is speak from my experience. But after each window is cleaned i turn the water off and then wipe the sills. This limits the water spillage considerably and by wiping it with the brush it disperses it over a period of space as it laurches onto the ground or across the brick work of the house.
So far on the downstairs windows and conservatories ive cleaned this morning, again the same type of method. However the water falls straight down. For me, my custosmers have pots under the windows, some have little borders of bedding plants and others have slabs or concrete or whatever. So once ive finished and packed up ive walked back aroumd the houses to see if im mistaken and there is infact puddles and streaks across the paths where foot traffic would be and it has infact become an issue. But No, again this is not my experience. Walls under the sills are wet and there may be very small pools of water very close to the property, as in inches away from the house. Certainly not anywhere were foot traffic would be unless your a peeping tom stood right by the window.
Ok, ive only cleaned 7 houses so far today so maybe later i might be proved wrong. But my experience is that im certainly not flooding each window to cause flooding on walkways or paths around the property for it to freeze or be a problem to the customers.
I would do a vid to show n back up or take some b4 n after photos to show, but the ground is wet and on the photo i took you couldnt see clearly the difference between what ive wet and the ground being wet. Obviously you could in person, but the camera doesnt.
So perhaps its a vid for my channel in summer and that way you can see what part of the ground gets wet and by how much.
. Jesus Wept! Is there a book coming out?
It goes to show its not true! Window cleaners can read with it requiring pictures
😂😂
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If one didn’t spend so long posting that claptrap ones could earn £60 more a day!
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;D ;D ;D ;D