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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: CONTRACT CLEANING SERVICES (1994) LTD. on June 27, 2006, 07:03:29 pm

Title: Agitation
Post by: CONTRACT CLEANING SERVICES (1994) LTD. on June 27, 2006, 07:03:29 pm
The original posting on this is about ROTARY machine agitation and not hand brushing - so lets do the poll correctly.
Title: Re: Agitation
Post by: CONTRACT CLEANING SERVICES (1994) LTD. on June 27, 2006, 07:17:37 pm
Come on, there must be someone out there using these CARPET FIBRE DAMAGING CONTRAPTIONS
Title: Re: Agitation
Post by: CONTRACT CLEANING SERVICES (1994) LTD. on June 27, 2006, 07:21:41 pm
There must be at least 1 person?
Title: Re: Agitation
Post by: CONTRACT CLEANING SERVICES (1994) LTD. on June 27, 2006, 07:29:12 pm
gwrightson

Do you wanna comment on my poll so far?
So far its all one sided dont you think?
Even you dont use one of these things!

Title: Re: Agitation
Post by: CONTRACT CLEANING SERVICES (1994) LTD. on June 27, 2006, 07:30:35 pm
Come on all you cleaning professional clean it up gods who slated the poor chap on the other post. Whos right now a?
Title: Re: Agitation
Post by: steve cardy on June 27, 2006, 07:36:16 pm
I think most of the people on the other post were disagreeing that any sort of mecanical was bad for a carpet.I belive using a cylindrical method eg sebo or envirodri is fine. I personally would only use a rotary machine on floor tiles and not in a domestic situation
Title: Re: Agitation
Post by: CONTRACT CLEANING SERVICES (1994) LTD. on June 27, 2006, 07:39:56 pm
Steve,  couldn't agree more - well said
Title: Re: Agitation
Post by: CONTRACT CLEANING SERVICES (1994) LTD. on June 27, 2006, 07:44:46 pm
Come on the following people were quick to jump on the other post what you gotta say now about cleaners using rotary machines?

martinS
Woodman
HolmansUKLtd
Formula6

Lets have your comments
Title: Re: Agitation
Post by: CONTRACT CLEANING SERVICES (1994) LTD. on June 27, 2006, 07:52:28 pm
There is no need to use these machines. They can cause pile damage as stated by all the carpet manufacturers in the other post plus everything else that goes with it.

Up here for thinking, down there for dancing!
Title: Re: Agitation
Post by: gwrightson on June 27, 2006, 07:52:47 pm
I think you will read, that the origonal post ,stated that any type of aggitation was harmful to the carpet

this , from what you have replied appeared to be in agreement with. Why suddenly have you decided to ask who aggitates only with a rotory?

the reason I started a poll on who does and who doesnt , was to basicly try and establish who uses mechanical and who doesnt, as it would appear that the vast majority of HIDDEN C/C  dont use mechanical.
 I am not trying to belittle you in any way, I am not insulting you any way, trying to find the truth is all i am seeking!!!!

unlike yourself, who for some reason does not like the response from my replies, albeit standing my corner, and sticking up for all the instructors and exp, c/c who endorse aggitation.and as i was taught to aggitate mechanicaly , I shall continue to do so, even if it means using a low speed rotory.

so , please do not try to twist the disscusion, into rotory V non rotory

 Geoff
Title: Re: Agitation
Post by: CONTRACT CLEANING SERVICES (1994) LTD. on June 27, 2006, 07:57:35 pm
Read the original post again its all about using rotary machines for agitating. Come on! Read it!

My point is that these things can cause pile damage. You are putting undue pressure on the fabric - even the people who make carpets are saying the same thing.

By the way, very brave of you to comment - well done!
Title: Re: Agitation
Post by: gwrightson on June 27, 2006, 08:01:54 pm
Brave ;D  ;D  ;D well I am a yorkshire man, were made of sturdy stuff up north ;D
  geoff
Title: Re: Agitation
Post by: CONTRACT CLEANING SERVICES (1994) LTD. on June 27, 2006, 08:06:05 pm
COME ON CHAPS DONT JUST VIEW GET VOTTING. Lets put a stop to this issue once and for all.       [
Title: Re: Agitation
Post by: carpetclean on June 27, 2006, 08:15:53 pm
i always on every job use an environdri for agitation does wonders
Title: Re: Agitation
Post by: jbcleaning on June 27, 2006, 08:59:22 pm
I think the original post on this has been edited, I am sure it wasn't just about rotary agitation yesterday. He was saying that all agitation is bad which is why so many people jumped on him. Maybe he felt a bit daft and changed it  ;D
Title: Re: Agitation
Post by: Cloverleaf on June 27, 2006, 09:50:21 pm
I'm also with Envirodri Carpetclean, would'nt be without it.
Let the rest learn!

Went to my daughters a few weeks ago to clean her carpets, hot weather, no shoes or socks on.....gearng up for a barbeque. The Envirodri machine ran over my foot! :o

Rather than a trip to the hospital, I have now dumped the misses for a nice foot massage from the Envirodri ;D
Title: Re: Agitation
Post by: CONTRACT CLEANING SERVICES (1994) LTD. on June 27, 2006, 10:21:31 pm
It's amazing how only 1 cleaner who slated the other chap came forward to defend his position. Faced with the evidence I think we can put this ROTARY AGITATION saga to rest. I rest my case!
Title: Re: Agitation
Post by: Len Gribble on June 28, 2006, 03:12:18 am
I often use a rotary and it has been know that I have used a watering can to apply pre-spray! Who to say I’m wrong? Next out goes the washing machine wife down the local river pounding my silk shirt with a rock thank god for the invention of the scrubbing board. ;D

Understand pile damage wish the customer did, would save me a lot of time explaining it, don’t get onto draft marks. :-X

Cleaned a new carpet (three weeks old) due to child being sick! no agitation. ;D

Len
Title: Re: Agitation
Post by: CONTRACT CLEANING SERVICES (1994) LTD. on June 28, 2006, 07:37:04 am
I often use a rotary and it has been know that I have used a watering can to apply pre-spray! Who to say I’m wrong? Next out goes the washing machine wife down the local river pounding my silk shirt with a rock thank god for the invention of the scrubbing board. ;D

Understand pile damage wish the customer did, would save me a lot of time explaining it, don’t get onto draft marks. :-X

Cleaned a new carpet (three weeks old) due to child being sick! no agitation. ;D

Len
This post does not make sense and is ridiculous
Title: Re: Agitation
Post by: HolmansUKLTD on June 28, 2006, 07:58:54 am
 ;D
Title: Re: Agitation
Post by: CONTRACT CLEANING SERVICES (1994) LTD. on June 28, 2006, 08:03:24 am
;D
I see you kept quiet with the results. Now you can keep your mouth shut and stop defending the process of agitating using ROTARY when hardly anyone does it
Title: Re: Agitation
Post by: HolmansUKLTD on June 28, 2006, 08:05:43 am
 :o
Title: Re: Agitation
Post by: Doug Holloway on June 28, 2006, 08:10:50 am
Hi Guys,

An interesting discussion but lets keep it friendly please.

Cheers

Doug
Title: Re: Agitation
Post by: HolmansUKLTD on June 28, 2006, 08:14:10 am
I think you may have the wrong end of the stick here old boy. I haveNEVER used a rotary machine with a brush to aggitate in a prespray.
Title: Re: Agitation
Post by: CONTRACT CLEANING SERVICES (1994) LTD. on June 28, 2006, 09:02:55 am
I think you may have the wrong end of the stick here old boy. I haveNEVER used a rotary machine with a brush to aggitate in a prespray.
Maybe not, but you were slagging off the other guy about them as if you where
Title: Re: Agitation
Post by: woodman on June 28, 2006, 09:34:30 am
every one of your posts is confrontational and your agenda is obvious, no one will reply as all that needs to be said has been said on the subject,

But I will tell you that I have brush rotary agitated pre-spray into hundreds of carpets before cleaning,  does that mean i'm sacked. ::)

Title: Re: Agitation
Post by: CONTRACT CLEANING SERVICES (1994) LTD. on June 28, 2006, 09:37:16 am
every one of your posts is confrontational and your agenda is obvious, no one will reply as all that needs to be said has been said on the subject,

But I will tell you that I have brush rotary agitated pre-spray into hundreds of carpets before cleaning,  does that mean i'm sacked. ::)
No it means your stupid and a cowboy. You obviously enjoy damaging peoples carpets. And my agenda?
Title: Re: Agitation
Post by: Len Gribble on June 28, 2006, 02:50:57 pm
Andy

Can’t vote as you haven’t got sometimes! ;D

I take it that you don’t do pubs; some times the black top is thicker than road asphalt.

Len
Title: Re: Agitation
Post by: Doug Holloway on June 28, 2006, 04:39:27 pm
Contract Cleaning,

I won't ask for politeness again , if you can't do it don't post.

Cheers

doug
Title: Re: Agitation
Post by: jasonl on June 28, 2006, 04:56:55 pm
I and many CD operators have used a brush, under a buffer for many years , on repeat customers, yes it may cause damage, if I go out in my car tonight I MAY crash, lots of things , could, may, might, happen , but dont , if carried out in the correct way. Agitate , if it needs it , on a  commercial , hard wearing carpet , I see no problem.