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Title: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: nathankaye on November 23, 2018, 09:28:05 am
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I turn the immersion on at night and come the cold miserable morning I jump out of bed knowing that atleast I have hot water to work with and  a supple hose to make the day easier. So I open the van door to check the temp and..........
I feel cold air not the warm air you've been used to and then I check the water temp to no avail.

Must have a blown fuse or something because I ain't got hot water, not even luke warm. So on this cold day, I'm using 10 degree, stiff hose making water.

Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: Dry Clean on November 23, 2018, 09:56:01 am
Oh Dear, looks like its back to 35 properties with conservatories in 7 hours then. plus what happened to your 40 degree water that was left from yesterday ?
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: jo5hm4n on November 23, 2018, 10:19:57 am
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I turn the immersion on at night and come the cold miserable morning I jump out of bed knowing that atleast I have hot water to work with and  a supple hose to make the day easier. So I open the van door to check the temp and..........
I feel cold air not the warm air you've been used to and then I check the water temp to no avail.

Must have a blown fuse or something because I ain't got hot water, not even luke warm. So on this cold day, I'm using 10 degree, stiff hose making water.


Nathan, any chance you could do a video of you fitting the fuse?  I have just installed immersion heater not wired it up yet will be next week.  Wondered if i could see how you fit your fuse and what you are using.  Cheers

P.s - hope you get it sorted soon its been cold this week.  We cant wait to be using warm/hot water in the winter.
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: nathankaye on November 23, 2018, 10:54:03 am
Oh Dear, looks like its back to 35 properties with conservatories in 7 hours then. plus what happened to your 40 degree water that was left from yesterday ?

That would be great, if I worked yesterday and so immersion wasn't on the previous night.

I hate working in cold damp weather, hoses get dirty with wet garden mud etc, the main hose snags much easier because it's so stiff and did I say I hate working in the cold damp weather 😂
Besides hot helping the clean, it also makes working in such conditions a whole lot more comfortable.

Jo5hm4n, sorry buddy its just the plug fuse I think. I'm currently using a 2kw element so I can simply plug via a normal extension socket.
Hot/warm water sure makes working in winter better, bet you can't wait 👍
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: combat1 on November 23, 2018, 11:35:18 am
Bad luck Nathan, have to ask why it blew the fuse? Would check all wires secure at immersion end.
You are right mate, i love the hot steaming water on the windows. Makes working so much better.
What temp you getting to now on2kw?
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: Dry Clean on November 23, 2018, 11:45:49 am
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You're right Nathan, I was using real hot (not lukewarm ) over the weekend and having a warm hose meant I could work in my T shirt and shorts,



Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: nathankaye on November 23, 2018, 12:10:53 pm
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You're right Nathan, I was using real hot (not lukewarm ) over the weekend and having a warm hose meant I could work in my T shirt and shorts,

If that's your understanding of working comfortable then each to their own Sean 😳😂
But a soft supple warm hose is so much more manageable in this horrid weather. Plus it helps if its around your waist like I do on a holster, does make a difference.

Combat1
To get into the 60's I have to run the immersion for quite a while from evening till morning on the first night, ie Sunday. Then during the week it's running from between 50's - low end of 60's depending on start temp and running times.
The problem. I have is that my immersion is near my rachet straps and the hook from the St p is banging against it sometimes and I think this has had an effect. I'm going to have a look over the weekend aboutsecuring things better
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: Dave Willis on November 23, 2018, 12:27:23 pm
Maybe ones element has blown? 
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: Slacky on November 23, 2018, 12:42:18 pm
Could you put a video up of the moment you change the fuse please?
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: Dry Clean on November 23, 2018, 03:25:49 pm
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You're right Nathan, I was using real hot (not lukewarm ) over the weekend and having a warm hose meant I could work in my T shirt and shorts,

If that's your understanding of working comfortable then each to their own Sean 😳😂
But a soft supple warm hose is so much more manageable in this horrid weather. Plus it helps if its around your waist like I do on a holster, does make a difference.

Combat1
To get into the 60's I have to run the immersion for quite a while from evening till morning on the first night, ie Sunday. Then during the week it's running from between 50's - low end of 60's depending on start temp and running times.
The problem. I have is that my immersion is near my rachet straps and the hook from the St p is banging against it sometimes and I think this has had an effect. I'm going to have a look over the weekend aboutsecuring things better

Each to their own Nathan but I prefer a pair of gloves and a warm coat to wrapping a warm hose around me.

Is this you ?
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Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: combat1 on November 23, 2018, 03:50:54 pm
Mines been on for 9 hours last two nights, upper 60’s in tank in the morning.
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: Slacky on November 23, 2018, 04:37:55 pm
Mines been on for 9 hours last two nights, upper 60’s in tank in the morning.

When you leave it on overnight d'you just leave it running with a return to the tank or d'you charge the battery up at the same time?
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: dazmond on November 23, 2018, 07:22:14 pm
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I turn the immersion on at night and come the cold miserable morning I jump out of bed knowing that atleast I have hot water to work with and  a supple hose to make the day easier. So I open the van door to check the temp and..........
I feel cold air not the warm air you've been used to and then I check the water temp to no avail.

Must have a blown fuse or something because I ain't got hot water, not even luke warm. So on this cold day, I'm using 10 degree, stiff hose making water.

nathan when you buy a new van(and i mean new not second hand) just get a 9kw diesel heater installed by grippatank and have done with it......you wont regret it....their ace.......and will last you many years......
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: P @ F on November 23, 2018, 07:50:53 pm
Daz why to you keep saying brand new van , I would never buy a brand new van , so does that mean I cant ever have one ?
If I wanted one I would buy the retro fit like yours and fit it myself , as long as its all in the cabinet its pretty easy isnt it , water in and out , fuel in , exhaust out  ???
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: AuRavelling79 on November 23, 2018, 08:03:32 pm
Hi Nathan did you find out the problem?
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: P @ F on November 23, 2018, 08:09:19 pm
Hi Nathan did you find out the problem?

No , he didnt bother looking because he aint got a brand new van he aint allowed to have hot water  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: robert mitchell on November 23, 2018, 08:29:22 pm
Daz why to you keep saying brand new van , I would never buy a brand new van , so does that mean I cant ever have one ?
If I wanted one I would buy the retro fit like yours and fit it myself , as long as its all in the cabinet its pretty easy isnt it , water in and out , fuel in , exhaust out  ???

Yes , very easy , i fitted my old pure freedom one that i got secondhand , even had a bracket welded up to fit it by side door , its very simple , i bought as a non runner and fixed it too.

My new van has the ionics one built into the tank /frame and is in my opinion better as when you switch off the water with a tap/valve /univalve it automatically recirculates to the tank .
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: nathankaye on November 23, 2018, 09:03:34 pm
Hi Nathan did you find out the problem?

No , he didnt bother looking because he aint got a brand new van he aint allowed to have hot water  ;D ;D

😂 😂

Looking at it over the wknd
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: david mark on November 24, 2018, 10:00:01 am
Element may has blown
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: Dry Clean on November 24, 2018, 12:24:29 pm
Daz why to you keep saying brand new van , I would never buy a brand new van , so does that mean I cant ever have one ?
If I wanted one I would buy the retro fit like yours and fit it myself , as long as its all in the cabinet its pretty easy isnt it , water in and out , fuel in , exhaust out  ???

Dazmond spends most days on here trying to convince himself that he hasn't wasted a pile of money, getting others to follow and agree helps with that process.
Strangely enough Nathan does the same even though there's no need to justify with nonsense spending a few quid on an immersion to have supple hoses and frost control in the winter months.
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: dazmond on November 24, 2018, 12:29:31 pm
Daz why to you keep saying brand new van , I would never buy a brand new van , so does that mean I cant ever have one ?
If I wanted one I would buy the retro fit like yours and fit it myself , as long as its all in the cabinet its pretty easy isnt it , water in and out , fuel in , exhaust out  ???

the reason why i say a new van(or virtually new) is i dont see the point in installing a brand new professionally installed diesel heater in an older van....if you can buy one cheap second hand and can fit it yourself then go for it........

most of us window cleaners wouldnt have a hope in hell of fitting one of these heaters properly....
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: dazmond on November 24, 2018, 12:42:08 pm
Daz why to you keep saying brand new van , I would never buy a brand new van , so does that mean I cant ever have one ?
If I wanted one I would buy the retro fit like yours and fit it myself , as long as its all in the cabinet its pretty easy isnt it , water in and out , fuel in , exhaust out  ???

Dazmond spends most days on here trying to convince himself that he hasn't wasted a pile of money, getting others to follow and agree helps with that process.
Strangely enough Nathan does the same even though there's no need to justify with nonsense spending a few quid on an immersion to have supple hoses and frost control in the winter months.

on the contrary.....i think its the best move ive ever made for my window cleaning business getting a new van and professionally fitted diesel water heater........i would of done it years ago if i could of afforded it rather than mess around with DIY hot systems.....its a joy to use....

i earn a lot more money than i used to  so why not have the best tools and equipment for the job?when you get to a certain level of income £4.500 is not that much money to spend on a decent system esp if its gonna last 10+ years...ive just spent over 3k on a holiday to mexico for me and the missus next year for 10 days in a 5 star "gourmet all inclusive" hotel with 11 restaurants! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

NOW that WAS expensive for a holiday!........but you only live once....you cant take it with you! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: Dry Clean on November 24, 2018, 01:22:23 pm
Daz why to you keep saying brand new van , I would never buy a brand new van , so does that mean I cant ever have one ?
If I wanted one I would buy the retro fit like yours and fit it myself , as long as its all in the cabinet its pretty easy isnt it , water in and out , fuel in , exhaust out  ???

Dazmond spends most days on here trying to convince himself that he hasn't wasted a pile of money, getting others to follow and agree helps with that process.
Strangely enough Nathan does the same even though there's no need to justify with nonsense spending a few quid on an immersion to have supple hoses and frost control in the winter months.

on the contrary.....i think its the best move ive ever made for my window cleaning business getting a new van and professionally fitted diesel water heater........i would of done it years ago if i could of afforded it rather than mess around with DIY hot systems.....its a joy to use....

i earn a lot more money than i used to  so why not have the best tools and equipment for the job?when you get to a certain level of income £4.500 is not that much money to spend on a decent system esp if its gonna last 10+ years...ive just spent over 3k on a holiday to mexico for me and the missus next year for 10 days in a 5 star "gourmet all inclusive" hotel with 11 restaurants! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

NOW that WAS expensive for a holiday!........but you only live once....you cant take it with you! ;D ;D



Again who are you trying to convince ?
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: P @ F on November 24, 2018, 02:02:41 pm
Hey Daz ,  I bet everybody smiles and rubs their hands together when they see you coming down the highstreet  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: Slacky on November 24, 2018, 02:19:31 pm
Daz, this is for you.

https://www.facebook.com/dailygoalcast/videos/vb.1339965909481783/1590267764407350/?type=2&theater
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: jonboywalton75 on November 24, 2018, 02:29:43 pm
Hey Daz ,  I bet everybody smiles and rubs their hands together when they see you coming down the highstreet  ;D ;D ;D

Also Grippatank have halved their advertising budget since Daz has been extolling their virtues on here😁😁😁
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: P @ F on November 24, 2018, 02:49:34 pm
Hey Daz ,  I bet everybody smiles and rubs their hands together when they see you coming down the highstreet  ;D ;D ;D

Also Grippatank have halved their advertising budget since Daz has been extolling their virtues on here😁😁😁
Thats funny ........ I just clicked the Grippa link to have a look and it tells me their server is down , perhaps they have stopped ads alltogether and are giving Daz backhanders  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: Dave Willis on November 24, 2018, 03:57:27 pm
Daz is hoping to get a life for Christmas (it won’t happen).  Nearly that time of year to brag about tips. I’ll start ........... I got £5 yesterday. 😀
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: dazmond on November 24, 2018, 04:57:22 pm
Hey Daz ,  I bet everybody smiles and rubs their hands together when they see you coming down the highstreet  ;D ;D ;D

Why? ::)roll

I save more than I spend matey..... ;D
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: dazmond on November 24, 2018, 05:03:08 pm
Daz is hoping to get a life for Christmas (it won’t happen).  Nearly that time of year to brag about tips. I’ll start ........... I got £5 yesterday. 😀

Not got a bean yet dave! ;D
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: Simon Trapani on November 24, 2018, 06:41:06 pm
You'll be able to buy a house soon then!
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: p1w1 on November 24, 2018, 08:29:22 pm
You'll be able to buy a house soon then!
;D
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: Frankybadboy on November 24, 2018, 08:35:04 pm
just a little reminder Daz you have not brought a new van, you lease it :) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: P @ F on November 24, 2018, 09:12:22 pm
just a little reminder Daz you have not brought a new van, you lease it :) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Lets not also forget the Golf GTTDI thats on lease , along with the roof over his head too  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: G & M on November 24, 2018, 10:59:51 pm
Daz, Im glad you got your system and your happy with it. I've been thinking of buying one for years but can't justify the spend in my head even though I squander money on other gadgets on a regular basis.

Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: dazmond on November 25, 2018, 11:18:16 am
Daz, Im glad you got your system and your happy with it. I've been thinking of buying one for years but can't justify the spend in my head even though I squander money on other gadgets on a regular basis.

Each to their own but I love mine and don't regret it one bit.....in fact I'll be cleaning all  the windows at my girlfriend's house today and all the cars!love it!
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: P @ F on November 25, 2018, 11:32:51 am
Daz, Im glad you got your system and your happy with it. I've been thinking of buying one for years but can't justify the spend in my head even though I squander money on other gadgets on a regular basis.

Each to their own but I love mine and don't regret it one bit.....in fact I'll be cleaning all  the windows at my girlfriend's house today and all the cars!love it!

See normally the novelty wears off but Daz is still creaming his knickers after 12 months 😆
These must be gooder than good !
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: Dry Clean on November 25, 2018, 02:52:10 pm
Daz, Im glad you got your system and your happy with it. I've been thinking of buying one for years but can't justify the spend in my head even though I squander money on other gadgets on a regular basis.

Each to their own but I love mine and don't regret it one bit.....in fact I'll be cleaning all  the windows at my girlfriend's house today and all the cars!love it!

See normally the novelty wears off but Daz is still creaming his knickers after 12 months 😆
These must be gooder than good !

You couldnt make it up, even the VAT threshold guys didn't brag this long. lol
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: ֍Winp®oClean֍ on November 25, 2018, 05:46:32 pm
Poor Daz, he's getting a battering on here!! 8) ;D

Mind, I'm sure the percussion orientated, brick s**t house ball of steam can take it!!💪😎💪
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: P @ F on November 25, 2018, 07:07:52 pm
He will be alright , he's grown a real thick skin has Daz  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: AuRavelling79 on November 25, 2018, 08:10:24 pm
Take no notice of the nasty boys Daz and Nathan!

 I love your posts - you're an inspiration to aspire to in "glass half-full'ism!"

 ;D
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: combat1 on November 25, 2018, 08:21:29 pm
Did we find out what the immersion problem was?
We all have problems! I upgraded my switch panel adding a voltmeter, tds meter and a water temperature guage, lots of illuminated switches etc.
Could I get the water temperature guage to work, all wired up ok but wouldnt work. A week later and its working fine.
Looking forward to seeing my toasty temperature in the morning.
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: P @ F on November 25, 2018, 08:33:23 pm
Well I can tell you whats on the cards for me in the morning , 10 minutes of nice hot water then I will either blow my eyebrows off or the gas will run out  :o :o :o
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: jonboywalton75 on November 26, 2018, 08:27:29 am
This is one of the most entertaining threads for ages and I haven't even got a hot system ;D
Nippy this morning but I'm just relieved I haven't spent thousands on a diesel heater >:(
Oh well I'll just have to manage  :o
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: jonboywalton75 on November 26, 2018, 08:31:09 am
Daz, Im glad you got your system and your happy with it. I've been thinking of buying one for years but can't justify the spend in my head even though I squander money on other gadgets on a regular basis.

Each to their own but I love mine and don't regret it one bit.....in fact I'll be cleaning all  the windows at my girlfriend's house today and all the cars!love it!

Wow Daz, is that you're idea of a great weekend?
Footy and beer is better ;D
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: Shrek on November 26, 2018, 08:33:48 am
This is one of the most entertaining threads for ages and I haven't even got a hot system ;D
Nippy this morning but I'm just relieved I haven't spent thousands on a diesel heater >:(
Oh well I'll just have to manage  :o

Same here - never mind immersions, imagine if you’d spent thousands on a diesel heater and then your fuse went on your battery to battery smart charger .... the downside of fuses eh
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: dazmond on November 26, 2018, 08:48:45 am
This is one of the most entertaining threads for ages and I haven't even got a hot system ;D
Nippy this morning but I'm just relieved I haven't spent thousands on a diesel heater >:(
Oh well I'll just have to manage  :o

im not working today....off to a funeral with my dad and 2 brothers at 930am,ill be in the pub by lunchtime.....not that i drink but my brothers and dad will make up for me not drinking! ;D ;D

its gonna be a cold start tomorrow morning mate...id put a duvet round your pump/hose reel if i were you! ;D
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: dazmond on November 26, 2018, 08:49:47 am
This is one of the most entertaining threads for ages and I haven't even got a hot system ;D
Nippy this morning but I'm just relieved I haven't spent thousands on a diesel heater >:(
Oh well I'll just have to manage  :o

Same here - never mind immersions, imagine if you’d spent thousands on a diesel heater and then your fuse went on your battery to battery smart charger .... the downside of fuses eh

ive always got a box of spare fuses in the van.... ;)
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: jonboywalton75 on November 26, 2018, 08:54:05 am
This is one of the most entertaining threads for ages and I haven't even got a hot system ;D
Nippy this morning but I'm just relieved I haven't spent thousands on a diesel heater >:(
Oh well I'll just have to manage  :o

im not working today....off to a funeral with my dad and 2 brothers at 930am,ill be in the pub by lunchtime.....not that i drink but my brothers and dad will make up for me not drinking! ;D ;D

its gonna be a cold start tomorrow morning mate...id put a duvet round your pump/hose reel if i were you! ;D

Why would I need a duvet when it's 4 degrees minimum temp?
Only use a duvet for frosty nights
Last year I used it about 10 nights max
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: dazmond on November 26, 2018, 08:54:43 am
Daz, Im glad you got your system and your happy with it. I've been thinking of buying one for years but can't justify the spend in my head even though I squander money on other gadgets on a regular basis.

Each to their own but I love mine and don't regret it one bit.....in fact I'll be cleaning all  the windows at my girlfriend's house today and all the cars!love it!

Wow Daz, is that you're idea of a great weekend?
Footy and beer is better ;D

missus not been well(bird flu) so i tidied up the garden,took the dog for a long walk,cleaned her windows,cleaned all the cars(daughters,hers and mine)and ordered a curry for tea...... ;D

watched the highlights of man city(sober no alcohol!) and off to the legends lounge in december at the etihad for a slap up meal with my brothers.... :)
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: jonboywalton75 on November 26, 2018, 09:24:14 am
Daz, Im glad you got your system and your happy with it. I've been thinking of buying one for years but can't justify the spend in my head even though I squander money on other gadgets on a regular basis.

Each to their own but I love mine and don't regret it one bit.....in fact I'll be cleaning all  the windows at my girlfriend's house today and all the cars!love it!

Wow Daz, is that you're idea of a great weekend?
Footy and beer is better ;D

missus not been well(bird flu) so i tidied up the garden,took the dog for a long walk,cleaned her windows,cleaned all the cars(daughters,hers and mine)and ordered a curry for tea...... ;D

watched the highlights of man city(sober no alcohol!) and off to the legends lounge in december at the etihad for a slap up meal with my brothers.... :)

That's more like it Daz
Hope your girlfriend recovers soon
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: Dry Clean on November 26, 2018, 09:52:09 am
Did we find out what the immersion problem was?
We all have problems! I upgraded my switch panel adding a voltmeter, tds meter and a water temperature guage, lots of illuminated switches etc.
Could I get the water temperature guage to work, all wired up ok but wouldnt work. A week later and its working fine.
Looking forward to seeing my toasty temperature in the morning.


No unfortunately without hot water Nathan didn't last long, it may be a while before he replies.
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1543225618_nathan 3.jpg)
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: jonboywalton75 on November 26, 2018, 11:11:24 am
Did we find out what the immersion problem was?
We all have problems! I upgraded my switch panel adding a voltmeter, tds meter and a water temperature guage, lots of illuminated switches etc.
Could I get the water temperature guage to work, all wired up ok but wouldnt work. A week later and its working fine.
Looking forward to seeing my toasty temperature in the morning.


No unfortunately without hot water Nathan didn't last long, it may be a while before he replies.
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1543225618_nathan 3.jpg)

Nice new haircut Nathan
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: NWH on November 26, 2018, 03:17:18 pm
If you added up all the time people are out in there garage sodding about with Emmersions etc it would amount to days,just drop your van off and pick it up job done well worth the money those heaters all day long for just  the hassle they save you.
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: Dave Willis on November 26, 2018, 03:30:52 pm
I would have one.                                                                    Only I haven’t got hours and hours to post about it on a window cleaning forum 😀
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: nathankaye on November 27, 2018, 11:39:13 am
Its not been my week so far. My phone died and i phoned up to see if i took insurance out, only to find out i hadnt and to get out mu contract and renew with them would still cost over £600. So upgraded wifes phone to the new s9 so i could nab her old phone  :'(

The immersion had a loose connection, so all is good on that front now 😀
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: Jonny 87 on November 27, 2018, 12:28:27 pm
-2 at work this morning in Scotland. My pole was even warming my hands up.  :D

Had mine 4 weeks and it’s the best thing I’ve done since powered reels.

Daz gets a hard time as people say he is trying to convince others that a diesel system is worth the buy.....I think equally there is quite a few on here trying to convince themselves otherwise.

Funny old world ae?  :)
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: NWH on November 27, 2018, 12:58:35 pm
If you weren’t on here so often Dave you might be out earning enough to buy 1 and not miss the money pal.
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: Dry Clean on November 27, 2018, 01:26:22 pm
-2 at work this morning in Scotland. My pole was even warming my hands up.  :D

Had mine 4 weeks and it’s the best thing I’ve done since powered reels.

Daz gets a hard time as people say he is trying to convince others that a diesel system is worth the buy.....I think equally there is quite a few on here trying to convince themselves otherwise.

Funny old world ae?  :)

Did you ever hear of gloves ? and for you guys its more about convining yourselves that its money well spent  than it is about convincing others, I can clean just as quick and to the same srandard as you with cold water and if I want supple hoses and a bit of frost protection  which lets be honest is the only real advantage then a £30 immersion will more than do.
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: Richard Groves on November 27, 2018, 01:32:56 pm
-2 at work this morning in Scotland. My pole was even warming my hands up.  :D

Had mine 4 weeks and it’s the best thing I’ve done since powered reels.

Daz gets a hard time as people say he is trying to convince others that a diesel system is worth the buy.....I think equally there is quite a few on here trying to convince themselves otherwise.

Funny old world ae?  :)
I'm fortunate to live far south enough not to need it.
If I lived where temperatures fell to - temps on most nights throughout the winter and in to the following day then it seems like a worthwhile investment. There were probably only 3 or 4 days last winter where it stayed so consistently cold that I could not possibly have worked. Even with hot water I'd probably have chosen not to - I earn and save enough through not spending out on a hot water system to stay in the warm and put my feet up when I choose to. For all the other cold winter days, if I want a bit of added comfort, I stick a pair of gloves on. I don't need to convince myself otherwise. Daz has worked hard and built a round up over a long period of time. If he wants/needs that bit of luxury to do his job ( required or not ) then good for him, he's earnt it.
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: deeege on November 27, 2018, 01:44:06 pm
-2 at work this morning in Scotland. My pole was even warming my hands up.  :D

Had mine 4 weeks and it’s the best thing I’ve done since powered reels.

Daz gets a hard time as people say he is trying to convince others that a diesel system is worth the buy.....I think equally there is quite a few on here trying to convince themselves otherwise.

Funny old world ae?  :)
I'm fortunate to live far south enough not to need it.
If I lived where temperatures fell to - temps on most nights throughout the winter and in to the following day then it seems like a worthwhile investment. There were probably only 3 or 4 days last winter where it stayed so consistently cold that I could not possibly have worked. Even with hot water I'd probably have chosen not to - I earn and save enough through not spending out on a hot water system to stay in the warm and put my feet up when I choose to. For all the other cold winter days, if I want a bit of added comfort, I stick a pair of gloves on. I don't need to convince myself otherwise. Daz has worked hard and built a round up over a long period of time. If he wants/needs that bit of luxury to do his job ( required or not ) then good for him, he's earnt it.

The weather was the same in the NW (I live in the area that Daz works). I don’t clean domestics when it’s colder than -2°C and I lost less than 3 days last winter, the same the winter before also.

If people want a Gas heater for comfort then so be it, but it certainly isn’t a necessity.
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: jonboywalton75 on November 27, 2018, 02:08:23 pm
-2 at work this morning in Scotland. My pole was even warming my hands up.  :D

Had mine 4 weeks and it’s the best thing I’ve done since powered reels.

Daz gets a hard time as people say he is trying to convince others that a diesel system is worth the buy.....I think equally there is quite a few on here trying to convince themselves otherwise.

Funny old world ae?  :)

Daz doesn't live in Scotland though does he!!!
4 degrees this morning in Cheshire
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: dazmond on November 27, 2018, 02:49:07 pm
2c and frosty here first thing this morning.....finished at 130pm as it was hammering it down and a cold wind(very bad conditions for wfp whether your using hot water or not!) ;D

glad to be home and dry now! ;)
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: jonboywalton75 on November 27, 2018, 02:56:01 pm
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1543330588_Screenshot_20181127-145316.jpg)(http://[img]http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1543330518_Screenshot_20181127-145316.jpg)[/img]

Positively bamly in Cheshire tomorrow  ;D
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: nathankaye on November 27, 2018, 03:54:49 pm
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1543334023_Screenshot_20181127-155315.png)

Shes up in scotland and making some on here look a bit more girlie
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: dazmond on November 27, 2018, 04:24:48 pm
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1543334023_Screenshot_20181127-155315.png)

Shes up in scotland and making some on here look a bit more girlie

desperate more like...... :D

she looks like shes just stepped out of a nice warm dry van,shes not very wet!i certainly didnt look that dry at 130pm this afternoon! ;D
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: tlwcs on November 27, 2018, 05:36:38 pm
2c and frosty here first thing this morning.....finished at 130pm as it was hammering it down and a cold wind(very bad conditions for wfp whether your using hot water or not!) ;D

glad to be home and dry now! ;)
Cold November rain. I hate the next 3 months weather
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: NWH on November 27, 2018, 05:56:36 pm
Once you’ve had hot water you’ll think it’s a necessity if you all of a sudden go cold.
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: Jonny 87 on November 27, 2018, 06:32:17 pm
-2 at work this morning in Scotland. My pole was even warming my hands up.  :D

Had mine 4 weeks and it’s the best thing I’ve done since powered reels.

Daz gets a hard time as people say he is trying to convince others that a diesel system is worth the buy.....I think equally there is quite a few on here trying to convince themselves otherwise.

Funny old world ae?  :)

Did you ever hear of gloves ? and for you guys its more about convining yourselves that its money well spent  than it is about convincing others, I can clean just as quick and to the same srandard as you with cold water and if I want supple hoses and a bit of frost protection  which lets be honest is the only real advantage then a £30 immersion will more than do.

That was with gloves! It was warming everything up nicely.  :)

I think the fumes from your diy shower bomb in the back of your van have gone to your head Sean. There is no way you can honestly think that freezing cold water cleans a window as quickly as hot?

Or do you have a round where every window is always crystal clean before you start?  :)

I have lots of large properties surrounded with trees, and this time of year the hot water is cutting through the grease, melting the leaves that have stuck to the frames, and dissolving the salt off the windows from busy roads way quicker than cold.

In just the four weeks I’ve had it, I’m noticing I’m
Getting through the work Quicker. No matter what is on the glass, two quick scrubs and a rinse, done. I used to do this with cold, but every second or third window would always need a bit of extra attention.  Not anymore.


Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: Dry Clean on November 27, 2018, 07:25:07 pm
-2 at work this morning in Scotland. My pole was even warming my hands up.  :D

Had mine 4 weeks and it’s the best thing I’ve done since powered reels.

Daz gets a hard time as people say he is trying to convince others that a diesel system is worth the buy.....I think equally there is quite a few on here trying to convince themselves otherwise.

Funny old world ae?  :)

Did you ever hear of gloves ? and for you guys its more about convining yourselves that its money well spent  than it is about convincing others, I can clean just as quick and to the same srandard as you with cold water and if I want supple hoses and a bit of frost protection  which lets be honest is the only real advantage then a £30 immersion will more than do.

That was with gloves! It was warming everything up nicely.  :)

I think the fumes from your diy shower bomb in the back of your van have gone to your head Sean. There is no way you can honestly think that freezing cold water cleans a window as quickly as hot?

Or do you have a round where every window is always crystal clean before you start?  :)

I have lots of large properties surrounded with trees, and this time of year the hot water is cutting through the grease, melting the leaves that have stuck to the frames, and dissolving the salt off the windows from busy roads way quicker than cold.

In just the four weeks I’ve had it, I’m noticing I’m
Getting through the work Quicker. No matter what is on the glass, two quick scrubs and a rinse, done. I used to do this with cold, but every second or third window would always need a bit of extra attention.  Not anymore.



Grease LOL, one scrub and a rinse on the glass is more than enough Jonny, not joking you could save yourself a small fortune if you knew what you where doing.
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: Dry Clean on November 27, 2018, 07:30:40 pm
I suppose melting leaves is better than melting concrete lol, and yes after 6 weeks there is very little on the glass that requires a lot of effort to remove.
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: Jonny 87 on November 27, 2018, 09:44:09 pm
-2 at work this morning in Scotland. My pole was even warming my hands up.  :D

Had mine 4 weeks and it’s the best thing I’ve done since powered reels.

Daz gets a hard time as people say he is trying to convince others that a diesel system is worth the buy.....I think equally there is quite a few on here trying to convince themselves otherwise.

Funny old world ae?  :)

Did you ever hear of gloves ? and for you guys its more about convining yourselves that its money well spent  than it is about convincing others, I can clean just as quick and to the same srandard as you with cold water and if I want supple hoses and a bit of frost protection  which lets be honest is the only real advantage then a £30 immersion will more than do.

That was with gloves! It was warming everything up nicely.  :)

I think the fumes from your diy shower bomb in the back of your van have gone to your head Sean. There is no way you can honestly think that freezing cold water cleans a window as quickly as hot?

Or do you have a round where every window is always crystal clean before you start?  :)

I have lots of large properties surrounded with trees, and this time of year the hot water is cutting through the grease, melting the leaves that have stuck to the frames, and dissolving the salt off the windows from busy roads way quicker than cold.

In just the four weeks I’ve had it, I’m noticing I’m
Getting through the work Quicker. No matter what is on the glass, two quick scrubs and a rinse, done. I used to do this with cold, but every second or third window would always need a bit of extra attention.  Not anymore.



Grease LOL, one scrub and a rinse on the glass is more than enough Jonny, not joking you could save yourself a small fortune if you knew what you where doing.

If you’ve never seen greasey tree sap on windows then I reckon you must leave some of your customers windows in some state.  ;D

Regularly I have properties where I would need a quick spray of virosol to clean things up faster. Other wise you get brush marks In the dirt. Now I get sparkly clean and steamy windows.  ;D
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: Dry Clean on November 27, 2018, 09:57:22 pm
-2 at work this morning in Scotland. My pole was even warming my hands up.  :D

Had mine 4 weeks and it’s the best thing I’ve done since powered reels.

Daz gets a hard time as people say he is trying to convince others that a diesel system is worth the buy.....I think equally there is quite a few on here trying to convince themselves otherwise.

Funny old world ae?  :)

Did you ever hear of gloves ? and for you guys its more about convining yourselves that its money well spent  than it is about convincing others, I can clean just as quick and to the same srandard as you with cold water and if I want supple hoses and a bit of frost protection  which lets be honest is the only real advantage then a £30 immersion will more than do.

That was with gloves! It was warming everything up nicely.  :)

I think the fumes from your diy shower bomb in the back of your van have gone to your head Sean. There is no way you can honestly think that freezing cold water cleans a window as quickly as hot?

Or do you have a round where every window is always crystal clean before you start?  :)

I have lots of large properties surrounded with trees, and this time of year the hot water is cutting through the grease, melting the leaves that have stuck to the frames, and dissolving the salt off the windows from busy roads way quicker than cold.

In just the four weeks I’ve had it, I’m noticing I’m
Getting through the work Quicker. No matter what is on the glass, two quick scrubs and a rinse, done. I used to do this with cold, but every second or third window would always need a bit of extra attention.  Not anymore.



Grease LOL, one scrub and a rinse on the glass is more than enough Jonny, not joking you could save yourself a small fortune if you knew what you where doing.

If you’ve never seen greasey tree sap on windows then I reckon you must leave some of your customers windows in some state.  ;D

Regularly I have properties where I would need a quick spray of virosol to clean things up faster. Other wise you get brush marks In the dirt. Now I get sparkly clean and steamy windows.  ;D

Brush marks in the dirt, what kind of dust bowl do you work in ?
To answer  your question, no I rarely get tree sap on any of the windows I clean but if its there and I'm missing it then as long as my customers dont complain I wont be rushing out anytime soon to waste £4k.
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: nathankaye on November 27, 2018, 10:00:02 pm
Ones who dont use hot water in this scenario will scoff (sean!)
But,,,,, if you have concrete splatter on windows from a first clean or new drive etc etc, hot water softens it nicely for it to be removed very easily.     
Im not on my own saying this either!
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: Dry Clean on November 27, 2018, 10:15:23 pm
Ones who dont use hot water in this scenario will scoff (sean!)
But,,,,, if you have concrete splatter on windows from a first clean or new drive etc etc, hot water softens it nicely for it to be removed very easily.     
Im not on my own saying this either!


Believe me you are mate, check out some of the past  builders clean threads on here and you will see that nobody else is silly enough to suggest using hot water as a way to remove hardened concrete on glass.
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: nathankaye on November 27, 2018, 10:47:41 pm
Thats because most on here dont use Hot water and so its easier to say get the chemicals out instead.
😂😂 same for fascia cleans or conny roof cleans; get the ciff or tfr out etc etc etc, when truth be told, HOT water, not warm water will work very well and youbdont have to rinse forever getting all the suds off 😀
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: KS Cleaning on November 28, 2018, 01:00:18 am
Ones who dont use hot water in this scenario will scoff (sean!)
But,,,,, if you have concrete splatter on windows from a first clean or new drive etc etc, hot water softens it nicely for it to be removed very easily.     
Im not on my own saying this either!
If I see concrete splatter on the windows or frames I ask the customer to tell the workmen responsible to have it removed. After the mess you made of the guys patio doors I suggest you do the same😂
Title: Re: Downside of immersion heaters
Post by: dazmond on November 28, 2018, 08:54:15 am
Ones who dont use hot water in this scenario will scoff (sean!)
But,,,,, if you have concrete splatter on windows from a first clean or new drive etc etc, hot water softens it nicely for it to be removed very easily.     
Im not on my own saying this either!

my findings also nathan......sean why dont you try it seen as you have hot water now?