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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Plankton on November 22, 2018, 06:12:41 pm
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I generally tell the customer that I hate inside work but I'm quoting windows for a new custy and they want the insides and out of two cony roofs done. I'm not great with trad on a pole and thought maybe a squegge with a pivot would be a better option... Maybe! Also there's a multi fuel burner in one cony so will have stour on the inside from the smoke.
What's your thoughts /suggestions (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1542909493_IMG_20181122_161220.jpg)(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1542909516_IMG_20181122_161539.jpg)
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i would of refused both of them...i dont clean insides......i know its not what you wanted to hear but i hate inside work too so dont offer it as a service anymore......cant be arsed with it.....
a karcher vac on a pole would probably do it and stop you getting drips everywhere....
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If you want it, tell the client to move all the furniture out so all the drips will not dirty the furniture if you want to trad it. I would charge very high because who else will do it? If you don't get it who cares because that is a labour intensive job with possible problem like does the cony roof have any scraping needed ladder height are you any good at trad etc etc. As a footnote I have never charged enough on a conservatory they always take longer than you think!
Good luck
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I’ll clean the inside windows on a conny if asked when cleaning the outside, for a price of course.
No chance would I take a inside roof on anymore. I got stung with that when starting out, inside roof in the summer heat that had been used as a smoking shack, all for £90. At least it was a lesson to me. That was about 9 years ago and haven’t done one since.
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I don’t like doing them either but we do do some but quote very high prices so if we get the job it’s worth doing , I do however refuse to do ones where they are covered in nicotine. We use a little giant ladder -steps that are adjustable and get up close and personal we clean all the plastics inside and out including all frame work where the windows and doors open if the plastic is mankey we go over it solvent cleaner , glass wise mop and blade, generaly an avarage size one 5x5 meters takes one person about a morning to do inside and 1 to 1:5 hours out side , we are cheaper than Thomas Sanderson but not by much , I thought charging that sort of price would put people off and it does some but I have been very surprised how many are prepared to pay good money for it , my advice would be price it high if you get the job then it’s not so bad and you will be happier to do the job
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Stepladder and do my hand.
They are a nightmare.
I just put in a silly price. I do one or 2 but not many
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I dont mind doing them sell it as a conservatory valet and price high . I use to do all the first cleans for a orangery company in Essex you do get a stiff neck squeeging up wards so make it worth your while.
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This one's too high for a step ladder and not enough room inside for my 'y' shape ladder. Was thinking £240 for this one and less for their other one. The frames on the inside would be a problem but I only spoke about the difficulties in reaching and cleaning the glass to a good enough standard so I wouldn't quote for the frames. All in a day's work for the two. (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1542928320_IMG_20181122_161344.jpg)
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I wouldn’t expect to get 2 done in a day. You’ll be knackered after the first one and end up rearranging the second one.
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Price them both on a day rate and save them for a couple of days when you can't or don't want to work outside. That's what I do, that way you still have work when the weather isn't co-operating.
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no amount of money would convince me to clean ANY inside conny roof.....seriously! ;D
....but thats just me....i dont clean inside windows either(unless its the odd kitchen window for an old dear)....
also i dont do gutter clearing unless im doing a full UPVC clean at a high price and theres the odd lump of grass that needs pulling out on a low level conservatory/roof line......
ive done all the PITA jobs in the past..for me its just windows and the odd UPVC clean,outside conny roof cleaning and solar panels......
i dont like being inside customers properties and having to book the jobs in......
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Price them both on a day rate and save them for a couple of days when you can't or don't want to work outside. That's what I do, that way you still have work when the weather isn't co-operating.
its not as easy as that....... as the customer has to be at home when you clean insides too...they often want it cleaned ASAP so the "ill save it for a rainy day job" very rarely works out that way......
on the other hand outside UPVC/conny roofs jobs you can virtually just turn up and clean and post the bill when it suits you....and customers are prepared to wait until you can fit them in.....
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The weather forecasts are pretty reliable these days Daz, especially this time of year. You can always find people home on a Saturday, so if you lose a day during the week work Saturday morning to make up for lost productivity.
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The weather forecasts are pretty reliable these days Daz, especially this time of year. You can always find people home on a Saturday, so if you lose a day during the week work Saturday morning to make up for lost productivity.
i dont work weekends either!i cant remember the last time i worked a saturday.......
if i employed i would probably just take on every PITA job and get my staff to do them..... ;D
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I did an inside & out conservatory clean 2 months back, £350 for the day and even by the end of the day it felt like it wasnt worth my time, and the next day I had a full large very busy round to do and by the weekend I seriously was wiped out..not worth it even for the extra money.
They were happy though, and asked me to book in again for the next year...and and im thinking to myself..yeah right..we will see about that eh?
;D
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Same here in the last 15 years I've done loads of different cleaning jobs now I just concentrate on good window cleaning work and have rigged out my pickup accordingly. Turn up clean the windows with as little ball ache as possible and get on with the next one keep it as easy and simple as possible ;D
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Regarding the planning, I would have split the two onto different days but this is what happens (a gutter job stones throw from my house)
Hi, the cost to clear the guttering would be £60.00 if required I can carry this out at the end of the month.
Regards
Custy Hi
Could we fix a date, preferably either 29 or 31 August?
Me Hi, I should be there on Friday.
Custy
Sorry, we've just made other arrangements for Friday this week.
Could you come on Sat this week, or on Tue or Fri next week? Please confirm ASAP.
Me
Not sure about next week as the next two weeks were being kept for something else. I might be able to do it tomorrow afternoon.
Custy Hi
Tomorrow is unsuitable.
I don't mind waiting until mid-September. But not every date is suitable for me, and I really need you to firmly commit to a particular date. Could you suggest a date or two after your busy two weeks?
Me I wouldn't commit to a day for a gutter clean as it can end up unsuitable for myself. I've done it in the past for the customer to change their mind at the last minute. I've taken the job off the planner.
Regards
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At the time I was taking on new runs so that's what I needed to keep space for and now I'm looking to take on more so going by the posts above that lack any form of inspiration to clean the inside of cony roofs I think I'll need to send a text declining the job.
Should be no bother for someone that does commercial trad work....
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This one's too high for a step ladder and not enough room inside for my 'y' shape ladder. Was thinking £240 for this one and less for their other one. The frames on the inside would be a problem but I only spoke about the difficulties in reaching and cleaning the glass to a good enough standard so I wouldn't quote for the frames. All in a day's work for the two. (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1542928320_IMG_20181122_161344.jpg)
Picture isn’t great but we would be at least £450 for that and the little giant ladder/steps would reach inside that no problem at all take half a day , but wouldn’t want to do the second one straight after
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The weather forecasts are pretty reliable these days Daz, especially this time of year. You can always find people home on a Saturday, so if you lose a day during the week work Saturday morning to make up for lost productivity.
i dont work weekends either!i cant remember the last time i worked a saturday.......
if i employed i would probably just take on every PITA job and get my staff to do them..... ;D
That's what I do. ;D
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Regarding the planning, I would have split the two onto different days but this is what happens (a gutter job stones throw from my house)
Hi, the cost to clear the guttering would be £60.00 if required I can carry this out at the end of the month.
Regards
Custy Hi
Could we fix a date, preferably either 29 or 31 August?
Me Hi, I should be there on Friday.
Custy
Sorry, we've just made other arrangements for Friday this week.
Could you come on Sat this week, or on Tue or Fri next week? Please confirm ASAP.
Me
Not sure about next week as the next two weeks were being kept for something else. I might be able to do it tomorrow afternoon.
Custy Hi
Tomorrow is unsuitable.
I don't mind waiting until mid-September. But not every date is suitable for me, and I really need you to firmly commit to a particular date. Could you suggest a date or two after your busy two weeks?
Me I wouldn't commit to a day for a gutter clean as it can end up unsuitable for myself. I've done it in the past for the customer to change their mind at the last minute. I've taken the job off the planner.
Regards
why does the customer have to be at home for a gutter job?(or any other outside job for that matter)surely you can just turn up,do the job and leave a bill......or is their access issues?(having to go through garage to access the backs)....
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Need a plug socket for the vacuum
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Need a plug socket for the vacuum
another reason to NOT buy a gutter vac! ;D
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I've got a geny for any vac work but I only use it when it suits me which is very rare. I see them walking past with their wee dug all the time and clean windows either side of them but their just odd! I've had that "firm date" patter before and as your working outside at height or spraying biocide then the weather plays a part so there has to be flexibility, it's not like I'm cleaning their fecking carpet or something. He actually said the Friday suited them and it happened that the Friday was free so when I've said people have changed their mind at the last minute he was one of them. No access issues no need for them to be in and I wasn't planning it in again.
This other cony job is now texting asking why I won't do it. ::)roll ::)roll
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I've got a geny for any vac work but I only use it when it suits me which is very rare. I see them walking past with their wee dug all the time and clean windows either side of them but their just odd! I've had that "firm date" patter before and as your working outside at height or spraying biocide then the weather plays a part so there has to be flexibility, it's not like I'm cleaning their fecking carpet or something. He actually said the Friday suited them and it happened that the Friday was free so when I've said people have changed their mind at the last minute he was one of them. No access issues no need for them to be in and I wasn't planning it in again.
This other cony job is now texting asking why I won't do it. ::)roll ::)roll
you dont need messers like that....id have told them a long time ago that they dont have to be in for me to do the job and that id leave a bill through their door if their not in once ive done the job....
whats wrong with these people?...idiots..... ::)roll
i cant remember the last time i had a messer like that... it was years ago!....
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I'm not a fan of doing them, but if it's an existing customer and they are good (most of mine are) then I'll do it.
I like the conservatory clear of anything (I don't mind doing it) and mop and blade and then clean the floor after.
I price it well and only do it on rainy days. I arrange to phone in the morning (on the day) if they are in then great, if not, it gets put back to the next rainy day. A little bit of leeway on both sides, works well for me.
Having said all that, one of my customers is an ex army officer. He has the mother of all conservatories and wants the insides done. This year I have softwashed his huge driveway, plus 2 patios, side accesses, fsg all round, gutter clear, etc etc. All well paid and they are a very nice couple. His window clean is 4 weekly and never a problem.
I have managed to put this off until February next year. And when it arrives, it will be a tester of patience for me.
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I've lost the odd customer because I refuse to do insides..I not bothered....I'm virtually all WFP these days.....and that's the way I like it....
I did recently pick up an ex customer who sacked me years ago for this....now she excepts I don't do them....happy days 8)