Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: zesty on November 21, 2018, 08:22:07 am
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As the title suggests.
I’ve got a massive guttter clearing job to do on a huge house. Wondering if it’s worth getting one.
Thoughts and opinions from those that own them...
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Depends if you price the jobs properly, there’s too many idiots still pricing gutter jobs for £10 a bungalow, £20 semi , £30 detached that I know of
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Depends if you price the jobs properly, there’s too many idiots still pricing gutter jobs for £10 a bungalow, £20 semi , £30 detached that I know of
if you get a few down the same road you could still make £80 an hour at them prices....
eg 4 semis at £20 taking 15 mins each....not too shabby at all.....
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Depends if you price the jobs properly, there’s too many idiots still pricing gutter jobs for £10 a bungalow, £20 semi , £30 detached that I know of
if you get a few down the same road you could still make £80 an hour at them prices....
eg 4 semis at £20 taking 15 mins each....not too shabby at all.....
15mins?? Yeah right.
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They don’t take 15 mins daz
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It takes 20 mins + to set up a gutter vac, thats plopped your 4 jobs an hour right on the bonce Daz.
I’ve got a Spinaclean vac and would say it’s the most expensive piece of kit I’ve bought if you consider what it’s given back to the business.
I wouldn’t buy another. For me to consider it to have been worthwhile I’d need to pick up a £3K job that couldn’t be done any other way and that is finished in a week.
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ok ill admit im wrong on this one.....ive never used a gutter vac in my life! ;D
i thought it would be easy...a quick vacuum around the gutters and on to the next job! ;D
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I used to have a guttervac then sold it to concentrate on the windows but then I started to get previous gutter job customers asking again and a lot of them was my regular window cleans so felt bad passing them away and if they’re gutter jobs you done before you know generally how full they will be and how quick it will take you so a few months ago I decided to buy another vac set up, I bought the 35ft carbon 1800w vac set up from gutter cleaning systems as I was happy enough with my old set up and not doing it every day I knew the 1800w vac would be spot on for me, £425 it paid for itself after 4-5 jobs and now its sat in the van as a back up to jobs difficult to get to by ladders so there’s nothing I can’t reach.
On most simple safe to reach gutter jobs though I find throwing the ladders up and going up with the gutterpro tools on one of my old gardiner poles can be miles quicker and you know you’ve got everything out properly as I’ve always found guttervacs as good as they can be sometimes they don’t quite get everything out when you’ve got awkward gutters fitted.
For £400 though its peanuts and worth having in the van as part of the kit ;)
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I’ve just bought one, so I hope it’s worth it ;D
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Always worth it. Even just for the odd jobs for your long standing customers.
If you don't they will look for someone else do to the job at the risk of them also being a wc who will try and take your customer off you.
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well worth it - my omnivac is now 9 years old and done well over 1000 gutter clears - from bungalows to complete sites, it easily does 3 storey work
minimum charge is 60 quid ( bungalow ) - the guys work as a 2 man team and the average house takes 20 mins - sometimes when there are really bad half hour
if your going to buy one go for a better quality set up and get one with a solid 135 degree bend NOT the silly silicone bends they are rubbish - for second vac came with one and the guys hate it, I've just got to get around to making an aluminium for it
Darran
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ok ill admit im wrong on this one.....ive never used a gutter vac in my life! ;D
i thought it would be easy...a quick vacuum around the gutters and on to the next job! ;D
I think your wrong on most subjects ;D ;D
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ok ill admit im wrong on this one.....ive never used a gutter vac in my life! ;D
i thought it would be easy...a quick vacuum around the gutters and on to the next job! ;D
Dazmond admitting he is wrong?? This has got to be a first for CIU! :)
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ok ill admit im wrong on this one.....ive never used a gutter vac in my life! ;D
i thought it would be easy...a quick vacuum around the gutters and on to the next job! ;D
I take my hat off to you and fair play to you for admitting you were bullshi$$ing in the first place ;D
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Cheers guys.
If I get one, it’ll be a decent sky vac then.
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Cheers guys.
If I get one, it’ll be a decent sky vac then.
You can have mine if you want.
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If you have jobs that the gulper can go into with ease they are brilliant if not they can’t be cleaned with it,you want jobs that use large brackets to hold he gutters up with that make them stick out clear of the tiles. I’ve looked at what would have been really good money to do in the past only to find you can’t get the gulper tool in at all making it impossible to use the vac,i now get up and look before I’d price and say I could do them first.
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If your using it just to remove silt it’s a license to print money with the vac,charge per linear meter you’ll earn good money doing gutters,charge per job like windows and you may as well be doing windows.
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If your using it just to remove silt it’s a license to print money with the vac,charge per linear meter you’ll earn good money doing gutters,charge per job like windows and you may as well be doing windows.
Getting gutter jobs that just require silt removing are a license to print money whether you have a vac or not. In reality those jobs are few and far between though.
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Jobs with mainly silt are near to the coast,moss and barnicle type scabs on tiles get washed into the gutters and end up as or like silt,some jobs I’ve just used the Gardiner gutter jet it clears a hell of a lot of gutters to an acceptable standard. I don’t go after gutter work I’ve past no end of work onto a chap I use,it’s a dirty horrible job using a vac in a lot of cases.
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The only thing I would ever do with gutter cleans is leave them for a terrible day weather wise,when you turn up and start doing them you wished you’d sacked the day off. I only got one to offer as an option for existing customers because I clean there windows.
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Vaccing gutters is a good earned minimum £60 charge prices go up from there we do very well with it , we have several large commercial jobs that we do evey 3 months each one is over 300 meters long takes the morning to do absolutely full to the top each time with moss customers won’t clean the roof but happy to pay us loads to empty 4 times a year , licence to print money as far as Ime concerned I now have two guttervacs best investment I have made in a long time.
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Cheers guys.
If I get one, it’ll be a decent sky vac then.
You can have mine if you want.
Slacky, which vac is it and how much do you want for it? I could do with another one.
What size pole and hose?
Thanks
Tom
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20 minutes to set up wow.. takes us 3 minutes to set up and 15/20 mins on 80 percent of jobs....gutter vacs are great but you do have to get a ladder off van from time to time.
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It takes 20 mins + to set up a gutter vac, thats plopped your 4 jobs an hour right on the bonce Daz.
I’ve got a Spinaclean vac and would say it’s the most expensive piece of kit I’ve bought if you consider what it’s given back to the business.
I wouldn’t buy another. For me to consider it to have been worthwhile I’d need to pick up a £3K job that couldn’t be done any other way and that is finished in a week.
Takes us less than 5 muinits to set up did a 6 bed detached Victorian house today with extension ,gutters full to the top with leaves and moss approximately 60 meters in total took 45 muinits from start to finish including unblocking downpipes x5 , using a vac is so much quicker and only need ladders very occasionally it’s the best paying add on we do generaly earn 4 times per day gutter vaccing to what we do on windows , I wish we could do it 8 hours a day 5 days a week
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It takes 20 mins + to set up a gutter vac, thats plopped your 4 jobs an hour right on the bonce Daz.
I’ve got a Spinaclean vac and would say it’s the most expensive piece of kit I’ve bought if you consider what it’s given back to the business.
I wouldn’t buy another. For me to consider it to have been worthwhile I’d need to pick up a £3K job that couldn’t be done any other way and that is finished in a week.
Takes us less than 5 muinits to set up did a 6 bed detached Victorian house today with extension ,gutters full to the top with leaves and moss approximately 60 meters in total took 45 muinits from start to finish including unblocking downpipes x5 , using a vac is so much quicker and only need ladders very occasionally it’s the best paying add on we do generaly earn 4 times per day gutter vaccing to what we do on windows , I wish we could do it 8 hours a day 5 days a week
Did you unblock the downpipes with the vac? I’ve never managed to do that.
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We have used this for the last five years. It has never let us down
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=benuGVBWhlA
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Where do you get them Nick and how's it powered?
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Cheers guys.
If I get one, it’ll be a decent sky vac then.
You can have mine if you want.
Slacky, which vac is it and how much do you want for it? I could do with another one.
What size pole and hose?
Thanks
Tom
Off the top of my head its this one.
https://www.spinaclean.com/skyvac-industrial-85-wet-dry
It has 37' of pole, would be 40' but I had to lose a few feet off one section as two sections got stuck one day.
50mm hose.
Its had very very little use. The machine is still gleaming basically. I'd want £1,650.00. with camera.
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Cheers guys.
If I get one, it’ll be a decent sky vac then.
You can have mine if you want.
Slacky, which vac is it and how much do you want for it? I could do with another one.
What size pole and hose?
Thanks
Tom
Off the top of my head its this one.
https://www.spinaclean.com/skyvac-industrial-85-wet-dry
It has 37' of pole, would be 40' but I had to lose a few feet off one section as two sections got stuck one day.
50mm hose.
Its had very very little use. The machine is still gleaming basically. I'd want £1,650.00. with camera.
Where abouts you based?
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It takes 20 mins + to set up a gutter vac, thats plopped your 4 jobs an hour right on the bonce Daz.
I’ve got a Spinaclean vac and would say it’s the most expensive piece of kit I’ve bought if you consider what it’s given back to the business.
I wouldn’t buy another. For me to consider it to have been worthwhile I’d need to pick up a £3K job that couldn’t be done any other way and that is finished in a week.
Takes us less than 5 muinits to set up did a 6 bed detached Victorian house today with extension ,gutters full to the top with leaves and moss approximately 60 meters in total took 45 muinits from start to finish including unblocking downpipes x5 , using a vac is so much quicker and only need ladders very occasionally it’s the best paying add on we do generaly earn 4 times per day gutter vaccing to what we do on windows , I wish we could do it 8 hours a day 5 days a week
Did you unblock the downpipes with the vac? I’ve never managed to do that.
Yes just used the vac , to be fair the bends at the top were full of leaves with moss on top so it was an easy job , we generaly unblock the downpipes from the ground with the vac , as a rough guide I suppose we get the ladders out on one job in every 20 . If you are prepared to spend a bit of time and use different techniques I would say 99 out of a 100 can be done from the ground oviously if there is a three foot high tree in it it’s going to need a ladder but there are many different ways to clear s bends from the ground , we have done loads of jobs that others have said cannot be done and they have given up and walked away , we specialise in this type of job but again we charge a premium for it . I have only had one job that I couldn’t clear and that was a cast iron Victorian cast s bend and pipe that was a very small diameter and the blockage was ten feet long in the down pipe tried everything including the pressure washer
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Cheers guys.
If I get one, it’ll be a decent sky vac then.
You can have mine if you want.
Slacky, which vac is it and how much do you want for it? I could do with another one.
What size pole and hose?
Thanks
Tom
Off the top of my head its this one.
https://www.spinaclean.com/skyvac-industrial-85-wet-dry
It has 37' of pole, would be 40' but I had to lose a few feet off one section as two sections got stuck one day.
50mm hose.
Its had very very little use. The machine is still gleaming basically. I'd want £1,650.00. with camera.
Where abouts you based?
Hampshire.
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Cheers guys.
If I get one, it’ll be a decent sky vac then.
You can have mine if you want.
Slacky, which vac is it and how much do you want for it? I could do with another one.
What size pole and hose?
Thanks
Tom
Off the top of my head its this one.
https://www.spinaclean.com/skyvac-industrial-85-wet-dry
It has 37' of pole, would be 40' but I had to lose a few feet off one section as two sections got stuck one day.
50mm hose.
Its had very very little use. The machine is still gleaming basically. I'd want £1,650.00. with camera.
Where abouts you based?
Hampshire.
Bit too far for me or I would of had it...
If your popping up Herefordshire way anytime soon I will have it off you ;D
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Cheers guys.
If I get one, it’ll be a decent sky vac then.
You can have mine if you want.
Slacky, which vac is it and how much do you want for it? I could do with another one.
What size pole and hose?
Thanks
Tom
Off the top of my head its this one.
https://www.spinaclean.com/skyvac-industrial-85-wet-dry
It has 37' of pole, would be 40' but I had to lose a few feet off one section as two sections got stuck one day.
50mm hose.
Its had very very little use. The machine is still gleaming basically. I'd want £1,650.00. with camera.
Where abouts you based?
Hampshire.
Bit too far for me or I would of had it...
If your popping up Herefordshire way anytime soon I will have it off you ;D
How much are they new then? I could buy two of the ones we use for that. ;D
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Cheers guys.
If I get one, it’ll be a decent sky vac then.
You can have mine if you want.
Slacky, which vac is it and how much do you want for it? I could do with another one.
What size pole and hose?
Thanks
Tom
Off the top of my head its this one.
https://www.spinaclean.com/skyvac-industrial-85-wet-dry
It has 37' of pole, would be 40' but I had to lose a few feet off one section as two sections got stuck one day.
50mm hose.
Its had very very little use. The machine is still gleaming basically. I'd want £1,650.00. with camera.
Where abouts you based?
Hampshire.
Bit too far for me or I would of had it...
If your popping up Herefordshire way anytime soon I will have it off you ;D
How much are they new then? I could buy two of the ones we use for that. ;D
Just looked. £2,200. I could buy three for that. ;D ;D
Sorry Matt. :-[
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Just used my new Sky Vac Atom today, in the rain; worked a treat. Two more jobs booked in as well.
I think i'm going to enjoy this.
Thank you also to Spinaclean, great service, very helpful lady!
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Robbo
What’s your opinion of the atom?
Too early to say?
Remember asking about the atom the other year and people slated it saying it was under powered and not up to the job 😳
Hopefully your not finding this robbo
Good luck to you 👍
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Once your filter gets thoroughly soaked, your romance with gutter cleaning will be over.
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Robbo
What’s your opinion of the atom?
Too early to say?
Remember asking about the atom the other year and people slated it saying it was under powered and not up to the job 😳
Hopefully your not finding this robbo
Good luck to you 👍
Hi Lee
Yes, too early to tell yet, but I was surprised how well it coped today.
Also my mate has the same gutter vac, which he purchased 50/50 with another window cleaner, so between them it gets a lot of use. He's never really had a problem with his, (think he's had it a few years) so I am hoping mine will be good too.
Price wise, WCW were doing a slight discount, so I phoned Spinaclean and they matched it. I don't think they are doing it now!
Camera wise, I purchased a (go pro type) camera from Robert Dyas for £25, fits straight onto my slx and works a treat.
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Once your filter gets thoroughly soaked, your romance with gutter cleaning will be over.
The words sour grapes come to mind 😂😂😂😂 they are a very good vac one of the best on the market
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We don't deal in sour grapes here so don't know what you mean by that? I'm basing my comment on the Atoms that have been brought to us by people asking us why they have stopped picking up. As soon as we have seen inside we have seen why and it's due to the machine not being configured for gutter cleaning, and the filters getting damp and clogging up.
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We don't deal in sour grapes here so don't know what you mean by that? I'm basing my comment on the Atoms that have been brought to us by people asking us why they have stopped picking up. As soon as we have seen inside we have seen why and it's due to the machine not being configured for gutter cleaning, and the filters getting damp and clogging up.
Hi Nick, under normal practice the Filters on all Gutter vacs should be cleaned after every job, so they are ready for the
next job, otherwise they just won't be as effective.
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We don't deal in sour grapes here so don't know what you mean by that? I'm basing my comment on the Atoms that have been brought to us by people asking us why they have stopped picking up. As soon as we have seen inside we have seen why and it's due to the machine not being configured for gutter cleaning, and the filters getting damp and clogging up.
The atom isn’t a particularly good one I admit but the sky vac industrial is a top piece of kit in the right hands , it’s surely common sense to keep filters clean otherwise you will have no suction , not rocket science I think a lot of people buy kit and don’t have a clue what they are doing I see it a lot with windowcleaning ,and gutter clearance is no different we get asked to sort out blocked gutters that others say cannot be done with a vac , not all can be I accept that . I think there is a need for someone to train people how to survey a job : how to use a camera , and how to succeed in clearing a gutter using a vac , I think all that is easy to some of us but it seams to elude a lot of people , always makes me laugh how many need help with a rams template shows quite clearly they haven’t got a clue what they are doing
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Alex replied before. Clogging is not the problem. The fibers of the fabric of the bag filters expand when they get wet and suction gets lost virtually immediately until the filter dries out. It easily solved and once sorted the machines never block or loose suction,during any weather conditions.
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Slightly off topic, but Nick you mentioned on a previous post that you have a document about pricing gutters and getting extra work etc that you would be willing to email to anyone, please could you send me it or upload an attachment for everyone on here?
Thanks
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+1 👍
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Thanks for your honest reply Robbo
Good luck to you👍
Seems that Nick says the problem with atom is easily rectified
Don’t know how as no experience of gutter vacs
A drier bag 🤔
Must be getting busy with gutter vac now robbo 🍁🍂🍁🤗
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Lee, unfortunately bad timing for me!
I bought the gutter vac and the same week decided to take the mrs away for a few days to Bath as she was feeling a bit down.
Came back and she suffered a complete nervous breakdown, so I had to take a week off to look after her. She is recovering well and her son is spending time with her now, but I am about 10 days behind, plus van went in Friday for MOT and service and now we've got some storms to come.
You gotta keep smiling.
I won't even be thinking about the gutter vac, although i've a couple to do on Saturday.
Having said that, I bought the gutter vac because, this year, I gave away about 25 gutter jobs to a friend of mine who is starting up window cleaning, gutter vac etc. I can trust him totally to look after my customers properly. And this is only custies who specifically asked me if I knew anyone. Dan also gets all the window cleaning work I don't want (about 50% of all my enquiries go to him). I have only had the chance to speak to about 5 customers at the moment and have 3 jobs booked in. (one is next year).
For the minute, I just want to catch up on window cleaning work and get the mrs up and running again. :P
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must be doing it wrong for the last 9 years the omnivac doesn't use a filter bag unless were doing an internal dust removal job
I do the same for the new vac we have - no bag while clearing gutters
Darran
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Nick.
Thanks for the heads up on the filter, it wouldn't of even occurred to me.
Although, on the Sky Vac site, their video says what to do with the filter.
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Has anybody got or used this vac.
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F142520203608
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Has anybody got or used this vac.
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F142520203608
All center Inlets will block side entry is the way to go in 10 years only had one blockage , with the centre inlet it blocked on 9 out of 10 jobs , a far better vac than the one in your link is the Grippatank vac lee Pryor did a video of his I thought what a load of rubbish , but he’s right it’s a very good basic vac I now have one and can say apart from the sky vac industrial and omnivac it’s the best one I have used and I have tried a few
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If you put your email addresses on here and I can email you the document. The reason some machines block is because they don't adapt them for gutter cleaning, our machines are centre entry but don't block as we adapt them to stop this happening. It's not a case of taking an off the shelf machine and sticking some poles with it as some people think, we spend about an hour adapting the machines for gutter cleaning. It shocks us when we've seen other machines that they sell them without adapting them, it's no wonder people get problems and blockages and are put off gutter cleaning.
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Yes I got one of those I changed the central inlet to side entry mainly because it was set up for 38mm hose
The omnivac is central entry, but rarely blocks
Darran
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If you put your email addresses on here and I can email you the document. The reason some machines block is because they don't adapt them for gutter cleaning, our machines are centre entry but don't block as we adapt them to stop this happening. It's not a case of taking an off the shelf machine and sticking some poles with it as some people think, we spend about an hour adapting the machines for gutter cleaning. It shocks us when we've seen other machines that they sell them without adapting them, it's no wonder people get problems and blockages and are put off gutter cleaning.
If you put your email addresses on here and I can email you the document. The reason some machines block is because they don't adapt them for gutter cleaning, our machines are centre entry but don't block as we adapt them to stop this happening. It's not a case of taking an off the shelf machine and sticking some poles with it as some people think, we spend about an hour adapting the machines for gutter cleaning. It shocks us when we've seen other machines that they sell them without adapting them, it's no wonder people get problems and blockages and are put off gutter cleaning.
Jbrowncleaning@gmail.com
Many thanks 👍
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Cheers guys.
If I get one, it’ll be a decent sky vac then.
You can have mine if you want.
Slacky, which vac is it and how much do you want for it? I could do with another one.
What size pole and hose?
Thanks
Tom
Off the top of my head its this one.
https://www.spinaclean.com/skyvac-industrial-85-wet-dry
It has 37' of pole, would be 40' but I had to lose a few feet off one section as two sections got stuck one day.
50mm hose.
Its had very very little use. The machine is still gleaming basically. I'd want £1,650.00. with camera.
Where abouts you based?
Hampshire.
Would you take 1500 for the vac mate??
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If you’d like to discuss call me on 07944 431670.
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If you’d like to discuss call me on 07944 431670.
I will give you a bell later today mate
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Ok.
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How do you rectify the problem.
I only use the filter if the stuff in the gutter is dry but so far never had a problem.