Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: H h20 on June 27, 2006, 06:01:07 pm
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Im just about to start building my backpack,i have got all the parts and just need to get a few small parts made,it will be 12v powered with a 60psi pump.i have also got a varistream but not 100% sure if im fitting it,it is not for a lot of use just for a couple of jobs that will be alot easier to do with it rather than the van mount,i use to have a trolley setup but it didnt really get used that much so that got dismantled and parts sold,but i still needed to do these jobs and it started to take too much time using the van mount,so i`ll be posting pics soon,Gaz ;)
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Well done Gaz, go for it, can't wait to see the pictures
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gaz, wonder what it will look like with the varistream, and why dont they put them on the backpacks, is it the price, or just extra weight, cant wait for the pics
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Brilliant, I'm in the same boat and have been thinking about building one. So look forward to seeing how you get on.
cheers
Dom
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I`ve just got back from my mates who`s making me the parts for the pump and battery to fit they will be housed and the varistream will probably have to go on show,if all goes well i should have it ready for the weekend ;D,Gaz
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Here`s a few pics before i get started,it started off as a pressure pump up backpack so i removed all the parts,i had the aluminium box and the battery bracket made,just got to decide how much hose i will need it`s microbore so nice and easy to use,just got to get a couple of small bits and it should be ready to use for next week ;D,Gaz
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looking good gaz, whats the frame made of,
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looking good gaz, whats the frame made of,
Hi Jouk,the frame ? if you mean the pump and battery box it`s aluminium
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How long will the battery last for???
Is it a 60 psi or 100???
Got your camera batterys working? ;D
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Hi Matt,yes the cameras working ;D,i`ll take pics of those connectors for you,
it`s a 60 psi pump and it`s a 7 amp hour battery,im not planning on using it for long periods just on a few jobs that will be much easier and quicker with it so the battery should hopefully be ok,Gaz
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Looks like the Allman sprayer ? You may want to leave the "box" accessible, I am always tinkering with my bits. :) You need to get at the battery quickly for changeover. I could get you some uprated padded ex army strapping. Or you could just use it as a grab and go. If u stick a 24" stick up the side with "toggles" you can wrap the hose in a fig.8 fashion and undo it whilst on your back.
Whats the flow rating of the 60psi sureflow ?
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Looks like the Allman sprayer ? You may want to leave the "box" accessible, I am always tinkering with my bits. :) You need to get at the battery quickly for changeover. I could get you some uprated padded ex army strapping. Or you could just use it as a grab and go. If u stick a 24" stick up the side with "toggles" you can wrap the hose in a fig.8 fashion and undo it whilst on your back.
Whats the flow rating of the 60psi sureflow ?
Hi Jeff,it`s made by Silverline,if you look at the pictures you will see i have left the sides open and got access panels to fit and the battery and pump have got click connectors so i can disconnect them and my battery charger has got the same connector so i can charge the battery,i am going to fit a couple if hose hooks so i can have a bit of extra length hose as i am going to be using more as a "grab and go" more so than a backpack but will see which works best
the Shurflo pump is a 1.0 gpm,Gaz ;)
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Whats the flow rating of the 60psi sureflow ?
I measured my 60 psi at around 8 litres per minute; but I think Gaz is using a vari-flow.
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Thanks for that Tosh. I know the flow rate of the 100psi sureflow is 4Litre/min
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Thanks for that Tosh. I know the flow rate of the 100psi sureflow is 4Litre/min
Jeff,are the sureflow pumps different i have not seen them before,mine is a shurflo and it`s 1.0 gmp as i said in my last post,Gaz
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Some of the other users may have more experience of the bigger pumps as I use the smallest 35psi flojets. However when I first started I used the 60psi pump on my very first backpack 8 years ago, and it burnt out after 10 months. Thats when I developed a bypass system.
The way I see it is that the 60psi pump produces a lot of water but lower pressure and the 100psi pump less water but more pressure. This must have a bearing on if you use microbore which the pumps are not really designed for. Water in should equal water out but with microbore you are constraining the out put of the pump, hence my reccomendation of a bypass whether you use a variflow type device or not. You should never restrict the inflow side of the pump.
The futher you need to pump the more pressure you need (within limits) because of hydraulic friction, so for trolley users the 100psi may be the better option if you need to go further than say 30 metres.
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It`s 99% finished,i`ve tried it and it works fine,i just need to fit an on/off switch,
i think i wll be using it more as a grab and go unit,it`s going to come in handy for a few jobs ;D,Gaz
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very nice indeed gaz,
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Nice one Gaz 8) 8)
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Thanks Jouk, Thanks Jeff ;D,Gaz
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Buy two toggle switches. If rt handed mount one on the side at bottm right when on your back, so that you can keep left hand, upper on the pole and just drop your right base hand to the toggle to give it a flick. Mount the other at the top of the unit to use when in grab and go mode- saves bending to the bottom toggle. Neat pity we cannot buy just the bare bpac units to adapt ourselves.
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Hi Jeff,im going to look at a few different switches,do you have any links to 12v switches and yes it`s a pity you can`t buy the backpack on their own :(,Gaz ;)
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gaz, when you get it done
post it on the DIY forum, i will then move it to the showcase bit ;)
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Gaz
What was the total cost against a purchased one??
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No links try Maplins or motor world accessories etc. You may want to steer clear of rocker or micro switches for alarms etc the wirings not thick enough and the spade connectors are too small.You dont need illuminated ones. Mount vertical and parallel so it doesnt stick out. You may want to think of fitting a remote switch later. Stick most things on temporary with pvc tape in case you want to juggle things around. Mines still held together with tape glue velcro and chewing gum :) Just bought a car radio for a £1 for mine :)
Pity we cant have the fastest "wacky backpack races" 8)
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Gaz
What was the total cost against a purchased one??
Hi Jeff,it`s cost me about £110,im not sure how much the cheapest Shurflo is,Gaz ;)
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gaz, when you get it done
post it on the DIY forum, i will then move it to the showcase bit ;)
Will do Matt ;D,Gaz ;)
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No links try Maplins or motor world accessories etc. You may want to steer clear of rocker or micro switches for alarms etc the wirings not thick enough and the spade connectors are too small.You dont need illuminated ones. Mount vertical and parallel so it doesnt stick out. You may want to think of fitting a remote switch later. Stick most things on temporary with pvc tape in case you want to juggle things around. Mines still held together with tape glue velcro and chewing gum :) Just bought a car radio for a £1 for mine :)
Pity we cant have the fastest "wacky backpack races" 8)
Fitting a car radio now there`s an idea Jeff :D,Gaz ;)
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I like to wake people up.
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ref the switches
i use the Chrome Toggle type, they last ages and look the biz