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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: WFPjamesWFP on October 30, 2018, 02:30:40 pm
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Has anyone got any experience with taking a commercial job to court?
I have a commercial job ive done for years and all of a sudden one of there depots has closed and they are now not paying my invoices.
I’ve contacted them frequently to get the run around from accounts.
It’s just under £2500 that they owe me, will I have to go to a small courts claim or ? Its a first for me I’ve never had to go down this road before so just looking for tips and advice and a point in the right direction.
Thanks
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Has anyone got any experience with taking a commercial job to court?
I have a commercial job ive done for years and all of a sudden one of there depots has closed and they are now not paying my invoices.
I’ve contacted them frequently to get the run around from accounts.
It’s just under £2500 that they owe me, will I have to go to a small courts claim or ? Its a first for me I’ve never had to go down this road before so just looking for tips and advice and a point in the right direction.
Thanks
Yes small claims
But given the sum is quite large it may be worth seeking advice from a debt collection company.
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Cheers Gomo, I get a lot of phone calls “do you have any unpaid invoices” I will see what they can do for me
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Dont hang around - get the claim started - just make sure you have proof you sent invoice and copies of the letters you sent them
you don't need a solicitor to make a claim unless you really feel you can't manage the small amount of paperwork.
the reason I say don't hang around is there is every chance they could go into liquidation then you will get nothing, I had a defaulter who owed 4 times yours but I was too generous in allowing them time to pay and the day before court they filed for insolvency so I am now on a long line of debtors
Darran
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Dont hang around - get the claim started - just make sure you have proof you sent invoice and copies of the letters you sent them
you don't need a solicitor to make a claim unless you really feel you can't manage the small amount of paperwork.
the reason I say don't hang around is there is every chance they could go into liquidation then you will get nothing, I had a defaulter who owed 4 times yours but I was too generous in allowing them time to pay and the day before court they filed for insolvency so I am now on a long line of debtors
Darran
Cheers Darran,
Do I have to send them a 7 or 14 day notice before I start the claim? This is the bit that’s tripping me up a little.
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Has anyone got any experience with taking a commercial job to court?
I have a commercial job ive done for years and all of a sudden one of there depots has closed and they are now not paying my invoices.
I’ve contacted them frequently to get the run around from accounts.
It’s just under £2500 that they owe me, will I have to go to a small courts claim or ? Its a first for me I’ve never had to go down this road before so just looking for tips and advice and a point in the right direction.
Thanks
Speak to Redwood Collections. They approached me recently regarding outstanding window cleaning debts, they take 17% commission. If they dont recover the debt then you dont pay fees. If i had a large amount outstanding i would possibly consider using them if i had too.
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Cheers josh I’ll have a gander at those mate
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If you have sent reminders to pay then send them a final letter stating if no payment received by x date (7 working days) a court order will be issued
This covers you in respect of trying to settle the matter before resorting to court
I take they are not disputing the clean happened or was substandard ?
Darran
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If you have sent reminders to pay then send them a final letter stating if no payment received by x date (7 working days) a court order will be issued
This covers you in respect of trying to settle the matter before resorting to court
I take they are not disputing the clean happened or was substandard ?
Darran
they are not disputing it they are just not paying me haha, I’m just messing around with a notice before action template I’ve been sent off a buddy, I did have it down as 14 days notice but meh I’ll go for 7 I think, one invoice they owe me for is from January ;D has them for years and never had a problem with them paying but this year they are too sloppy for me, cheers smudge I’ll let you know how I get in
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If it helps, Here is a copy of one of ours for you. You need to give them 14 days. Send them an original hard copy of the letter by post either RMSD or First Class Signed for and keep the receipt and track the delivery in case you need it for evidence.
Dear Sir/Madam
FINAL DEMAND
Invoice No TL110174 Dated 19 Xxxx xxxx
OVERDUE AMOUNT: £2300
Despite our previous numerous requests in writing by e mail and via telephone and messaging for payment your account remains overdue. Unless payment is received within the next fourteen days we will instruct our Legal Department without further notice to instigate County Court proceedings for the outstanding balance. Once these proceedings are started they will be seen through to a satisfactory conclusion and any costs incurred will be added to the outstanding balance as well as 8% statutory interest. If proceedings are commenced you retain the right to have the proceedings moved to your local County Court
Settlement of the balance can be accepted by BACS Transfer direct to our account. Bank details are on your invoice or by telephoning our office with Debit Card Details.
We trust that such action will not prove necessary and look forward to receiving your payment in settlement of your account by Friday 3 June xxxx.
It is imperative that you contact us if for any reason payment can not be made or if you have made a payment within the last 7 days.
Yours faithfully
Kevin Martin
Managing Director
Marble Life Ltd
Original to be sent RMSD
Copy to:
Accounts Department
Attachments:
Copy Invoice No TL110174
Tel: 0121 773 9129
Mob: 07770 598855
E Mail:tilinglogistics@hotmail.com
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Yes keep us updated
Darran
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Roan Hay Redwood collections, advertises a lot on the facebook pages
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They won't take any notice of you. Get a dept company in, I use Shire dept recovery. They have all ways got a result for me , minus 10%.
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Little update:
I rang them up yesterday and told them I will not be returning to clean the windows until my balance starts getting cleared.
Last night I printed out an letter before action and today I sent it special delivery, I got home and then checking emails they have sent me some payments, not all of them but a small amount so they are playing ball now I’ve raised a bit of hell with them yesterday on the phone.
I went back to the post office and got my letter back lol.
I don’t think court will be needed now BUT this hasn’t been a total waste of time because I’m prepared now for if they do decide to try and trip me up.
Thank you all for the help and advice, I feel more comfortable now knowing I know what action to take if any of this comes up again.
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They are probably making token payments whilst they go into liquidation.
You should continue with action even if you get the payments.
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They are probably making token payments whilst they go into liquidation.
You should continue with action even if you get the payments.
Giving them till next week to see what hqooens, Id no further payments come through letter before action for them
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Remember to notify them of the interest you are going to add if they dont resolve the outstanding balance. (you are legally allowed to charge this, its worth looking into how to do it on google).
We did this on one of the very few large commercial jobs we do, as soon as they got the letter explaining the intrest charges they paid up.
Good luck.
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Well done
But as said continue with the letter until they are up to date - minimal payments at best are just jerking you around at worst going bust but trying to delay your court action
Darran
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They are probably making token payments whilst they go into liquidation.
You should continue with action even if you get the payments.
Giving them till next week to see what hqooens, Id no further payments come through letter before action for them
I would do it now mate.
It only takes an appointment with a judge and 700 quid (or is it higher? ) and it can be wound up in 15 mins.
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I went back to the post office and got my letter back lol.
You did what??
Jeez, thats nuts.
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Appreciate all the advice lads: little update:
They’ve paid the rest of the balance off today.
Glad I got that letter back now haha, but yeah I need to sort out with them some better payment terms; over the past 4 years they’ve gone really sloppy
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I think you'll find that they're deliberately holding back payment untill the very last moment and trying to get away without paying for as long as possible thinking that a small tradesman won't have the "balls" to take it further.
My only outstanding debt at the moment is for a judge'e house. After asking in the area, I've found out that he does this to everyone as they're to scared to take on a judge in court.
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I think you’re right @elfyn
I still will not be returning to clean the windows until payment terms have been renegotiated, at the min it seems the payment terms are pay him when he comes in ranting and waving an unpaid invoice list with reception.
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I think you'll find that they're deliberately holding back payment untill the very last moment and trying to get away without paying for as long as possible thinking that a small tradesman won't have the "balls" to take it further.
My only outstanding debt at the moment is for a judge'e house. After asking in the area, I've found out that he does this to everyone as they're to scared to take on a judge in court.
On the other hand he dare not have proceedings against him.
This is true. I threatened (in writing) a Solicitor with a small claims action. I got the printed forms and filled them out. I photocopied them with a letter basically saying that if I hadn't received a cheque for (about £525.00) within seven days that the claim would go ahead with no further notice AND that I would contact the Law Society.
He paid up.
(I used to sell office equipment to Solicitors etc and one I got on well with advised me what to do saying Solicitors dare not have any court action against them as they would get into big trouble with the Law Society. (Solicitors' professional body.)