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Title: Vertigo pole
Post by: Richard Stevenson on October 06, 2018, 12:44:13 pm
Has anyone tried the new vertigo pole from Ionics, it seems to have some great ideas. I know ionics have a bad name on this site, but they are a British company , aren't they worth at least a debate for that reason.
Title: Re: Vertigo pole
Post by: dazmond on October 06, 2018, 12:52:59 pm
i only buy gardiner poles..not interested in any other companies poles TBH........excellent customer service,great poles and quick delivery....
Title: Re: Vertigo pole
Post by: Smudger on October 06, 2018, 01:17:35 pm
Has anyone tried the new vertigo pole from Ionics, it seems to have some great ideas. I know ionics have a bad name on this site, but they are a British company , aren't they worth at least a debate for that reason.

Gardiners are a British company also.

I think the price puts most people off - I don’t mind paying extra for quality but I doubt ionic poles are significantly better than gardiners ( example - slx poles date back 6 years and still going strong - one did finally lose section one to wear but why would I look at anything else on the market ? )

Darran
Title: Re: Vertigo pole
Post by: ben M on October 06, 2018, 01:26:57 pm
ionics is a British company too like Gardiner and both company buy carbon poles from China.....
Title: Re: Vertigo pole
Post by: dazmond on October 06, 2018, 01:41:10 pm
ionics is a British company too like Gardiner and both company buy carbon poles from China.....

i dont buy anything from ionics....its a rule of mine....serious rip off merchants IMO....i hate their slick marketing too....
Title: Re: Vertigo pole
Post by: Go on October 06, 2018, 01:52:35 pm
I have an old 70’ Ionics pole. It’s great! Far less bend than other  carbon poles. It’s 3m closed though.

Sod buying anything new off them.
Title: Re: Vertigo pole
Post by: Richard Stevenson on October 06, 2018, 02:10:02 pm
ionics is a British company too like Gardiner and both company buy carbon poles from China.

ISN'T GARDINER A GERMAN COMPANY?
Title: Re: Vertigo pole
Post by: ben M on October 06, 2018, 02:18:38 pm
no British and Jehovah's witnesses
Title: Re: Vertigo pole
Post by: zesty on October 06, 2018, 02:54:58 pm
ionics is a British company too like Gardiner and both company buy carbon poles from China.

ISN'T GARDINER A GERMAN COMPANY?

Where on earth did you get that from? German?

Title: Re: Vertigo pole
Post by: Smudger on October 06, 2018, 03:41:25 pm
Your thinking gardena the hose people

Darran
Title: Re: Vertigo pole
Post by: Spruce on October 06, 2018, 04:12:06 pm
ionics is a British company too like Gardiner and both company buy carbon poles from China.....

No Gardiners don't according to several posts Alex has put up over the last few years.

Why make a statement like that based on assumption as though it was fact? Please provide the proof to back your statement up.
Title: Re: Vertigo pole
Post by: dazmond on October 06, 2018, 04:34:03 pm
 everyone on here ignores everything Ben M says spruce..... ;D

He's an idiot....or he certainly comes across that way in his posts...   ::)roll
Title: Re: Vertigo pole
Post by: P @ F on October 06, 2018, 08:15:24 pm
I never knew Alex was a JW to be honest
Title: Re: Vertigo pole
Post by: P @ F on October 06, 2018, 08:18:48 pm
Although looking back , he must be the only supplier I have not sworn at so no harm done eh  ;D
Title: Re: Vertigo pole
Post by: Spruce on October 08, 2018, 08:58:12 pm
I've often wondered why anyone would name a pole "Vertigo".

Symptoms of vertigo

The sensation that you, or the environment around you, is moving or spinning may be:

    barely noticeable
    so severe that you find it difficult to keep your balance and do everyday tasks

Attacks of vertigo can develop suddenly and last for a few seconds, or they may last much longer.

If you have severe vertigo, your symptoms may be constant and last for several days. This can make normal life difficult.

Other symptoms associated with vertigo may include:

    loss of balance – which can make it difficult to stand or walk
    feeling sick or being sick
    dizziness

Its the same as the name Facelift gave their Phoenix pole when they were released a few years back. The first thing that I thought of is "the Phoenix arising from the ashes."  The ashes - doesn't say much for what was before.

Then they name the new pole Phantom.

Phantom may refer to:

    An apparition, more specifically a
        Spirit
        Ghost
    An illusion, a distortion of the senses

These are negative connotations and wouldn't inspire me to buy one.
Title: Re: Vertigo pole
Post by: Go on October 08, 2018, 09:14:54 pm
Want one called the ‘cleans windows easily’ pole.
Title: Re: Vertigo pole
Post by: ֍Winp®oClean֍ on October 08, 2018, 09:43:34 pm
Someone once asked me if I had virtigo, I said no, just round the corner! 🤪
Title: Re: Vertigo pole
Post by: jonboywalton75 on October 09, 2018, 09:54:57 am
ionics is a British company too like Gardiner and both company buy carbon poles from China.....

i dont buy anything from ionics....its a rule of mine....serious rip off merchants IMO....i hate their slick marketing too....

Grippa are pretty slick too ;D
Title: Re: Vertigo pole
Post by: zesty on October 09, 2018, 03:29:43 pm
I've often wondered why anyone would name a pole "Vertigo".

Symptoms of vertigo

The sensation that you, or the environment around you, is moving or spinning may be:

    barely noticeable
    so severe that you find it difficult to keep your balance and do everyday tasks

Attacks of vertigo can develop suddenly and last for a few seconds, or they may last much longer.

If you have severe vertigo, your symptoms may be constant and last for several days. This can make normal life difficult.

Other symptoms associated with vertigo may include:

    loss of balance – which can make it difficult to stand or walk
    feeling sick or being sick
    dizziness

Its the same as the name Facelift gave their Phoenix pole when they were released a few years back. The first thing that I thought of is "the Phoenix arising from the ashes."  The ashes - doesn't say much for what was before.

Then they name the new pole Phantom.

Phantom may refer to:

    An apparition, more specifically a
        Spirit
        Ghost
    An illusion, a distortion of the senses

These are negative connotations and wouldn't inspire me to buy one.

Spruce, you think too deeply.  ;D

Just kidding, always love your posts.
Title: Re: Vertigo pole
Post by: Spruce on October 09, 2018, 07:14:16 pm
I've often wondered why anyone would name a pole "Vertigo".

Symptoms of vertigo

The sensation that you, or the environment around you, is moving or spinning may be:

    barely noticeable
    so severe that you find it difficult to keep your balance and do everyday tasks

Attacks of vertigo can develop suddenly and last for a few seconds, or they may last much longer.

If you have severe vertigo, your symptoms may be constant and last for several days. This can make normal life difficult.

Other symptoms associated with vertigo may include:

    loss of balance – which can make it difficult to stand or walk
    feeling sick or being sick
    dizziness

Its the same as the name Facelift gave their Phoenix pole when they were released a few years back. The first thing that I thought of is "the Phoenix arising from the ashes."  The ashes - doesn't say much for what was before.

Then they name the new pole Phantom.

Phantom may refer to:

    An apparition, more specifically a
        Spirit
        Ghost
    An illusion, a distortion of the senses

These are negative connotations and wouldn't inspire me to buy one.

Spruce, you think too deeply.  ;D

Just kidding, always love your posts.

I bit worrying to be honest.  ;D

Just now I'll be looking for hair on the palm of my hands. Reminds me of this:
https://www.carthrottle.com/post/49rx9gg/
Title: Re: Vertigo pole
Post by: zesty on October 09, 2018, 09:27:28 pm
I’m sure those car manufacturers are just coming up with those names for a laugh! Some of them are blatant, let alone mistakes!
Title: Re: Vertigo pole
Post by: rosskesava on October 10, 2018, 01:38:21 am
Has anyone tried the new vertigo pole from Ionics, it seems to have some great ideas. I know ionics have a bad name on this site, but they are a British company , aren't they worth at least a debate for that reason.

A local cleaning supplies place near me who is an Ionics distributor showed me one. I tried it out. No thanks. For the money it's modded.

Even if it was half the price it's still modded.

In defence of Ionics, their customer service is 5 stars though. What they make is extremely well made, just not very well thought out in terms of using day in and day out and their brushes are naff.
Title: Re: Vertigo pole
Post by: Soupy on October 10, 2018, 06:24:03 am
Has anyone tried the new vertigo pole from Ionics, it seems to have some great ideas. I know ionics have a bad name on this site, but they are a British company , aren't they worth at least a debate for that reason.

A local cleaning supplies place near me who is an Ionics distributor showed me one. I tried it out. No thanks. For the money it's modded.

Even if it was half the price it's still modded.

In defence of Ionics, their customer service is 5 stars though. What they make is extremely well made, just not very well thought out in terms of using day in and day out and their brushes are naff.

Really? I trialled a poles, one each from Gardiner, FaceLift and Ionics before committing to go with one supplier. The Ionics pole broke (one of the clamp levers iirc) on day one.

Utter garbage it was.

We used it as a (very expensive) squeegee pole in the end.
Title: Re: Vertigo pole
Post by: Stephen Fox on October 10, 2018, 07:28:38 am

Its the same as the name Facelift gave their Phoenix pole when they were released a few years back. The first thing that I thought of is "the Phoenix arising from the ashes."  The ashes - doesn't say much for what was before.

Then they name the new pole Phantom.

Phantom may refer to:

    An apparition, more specifically a
        Spirit
        Ghost
    An illusion, a distortion of the senses

These are negative connotations and wouldn't inspire me to buy one.

Spruce, `I see you get your research from Wikipedia... There are many connotations of the word Phantom, but it our case it is used as in 'Phantom Circuit' or `Phantom Power' in a positive light. `it is based around the clamp design so as to have `Phantom Wear' on the pole. It should wear but it doesn't. That was one of the ideas behind naming it.

It also goes nicely with FaceLift... as in FaceLift Phantom.

As for Phoenix naming, you are partly correct on the 'rising from the ashes'  theme. That was also in a positive light,  At the time we bought FaceLift is was falling behind from its heyday in the early/mid 00's. The original FaceLift pole was a true leader in the WFP industry, with removable sections, user-focused clamps, etc. Gardiners even used to sell them. So the Phoenix seemed an apt metaphor, as a new beginning........ The name also goes nicely with FaceLift....
Title: Re: Vertigo pole
Post by: Soupy on October 10, 2018, 09:24:41 am
Spruce, `I see you get your research from Wikipedia... There are many connotations of the word Phantom, but it our case it is used as in 'Phantom Circuit' or `Phantom Power' in a positive light. `it is based around the clamp design so as to have `Phantom Wear' on the pole. It should wear but it doesn't. That was one of the ideas behind naming it.

It also goes nicely with FaceLift... as in FaceLift Phantom.

As for Phoenix naming, you are partly correct on the 'rising from the ashes'  theme. That was also in a positive light,  At the time we bought FaceLift is was falling behind from its heyday in the early/mid 00's. The original FaceLift pole was a true leader in the WFP industry, with removable sections, user-focused clamps, etc. Gardiners even used to sell them. So the Phoenix seemed an apt metaphor, as a new beginning........ The name also goes nicely with FaceLift....

"Phantom wear" sounds to me like; wear, but you can't work out why. Like a phantom knocking noise from your van or a phantom creaking noise from your knee.
Title: Re: Vertigo pole
Post by: Shrek on October 10, 2018, 02:40:54 pm
What do you think of the rolls Royce phantom  ;D

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1539178847_B718D861-6B49-4FF1-9008-C989A35A1B46.png)
Title: Re: Vertigo pole
Post by: Soupy on October 11, 2018, 05:21:00 am
What do you think of the rolls Royce phantom  ;D

Terrible. Hasn't even got fixing points for a roof rack.