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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Jonny 87 on October 05, 2018, 08:43:50 am
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This topic again......this time of year. ;D
Last winter I nearly went for a diesel hot water system, but I convinced myself an immersion would work just as fine and get me through things.
Now as we are about to head into the winter again I’ve decided to finally go for it. Much similar to others on here I want a work day as easy as possible. I work 5 days a week, and can justify the cost for the convenience and speed/quality increase. I know a few say there is no difference in quality or speed with hot water, but I defintiely feel there is. When I have my immersion on so the water is pretty hot, I get through an extra job or so in the day, and quality defintiely increases a little, (less missed marks etc) and the day is just all round more enjoyable. (Just my findings) plus I’m in Scotland where it’s not the nicest climate during winter.
Anyway.............
A few quick questions for the guys who have the grippatank heaters........ how do you find the heat adjuster in practical use? I know Oliver has told me it’s fully adjustable, but what does that mean?
I was going to get the 5kw version, but I think I’m going for the 9kw now. I work with a high flow rate, and I feel the 5kw might be lacking for me. I’ve been told if I use a flow rate of 25 on my controller, I would expect 50-60 degrees out the heater all year round. The problem is that I use about 60 on my controller, so that leads me to think the 5kw might struggle. Especially in winter when it’s very cold outside.
So my option now is to get the 9kw and then turn the temperature down during winter.
Also do any of you know if it’s possible to run one pump on cold and one on hot? Just trying to look at all the options.
Thanks guys. 👍
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Get the 9kw the 5kw will not be hot enough...
Just run it on full temperature setting all year round.....
In winter when it's cold the temperature at brush head will be only 20-30c with 100m of hose out on freezing ground even on full temperature.....
In summer on a hot day you'll be getting55c-60c at brush head,great for cleaning....
I use around £4 a day in diesel....
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Thanks for the stats Daz.
That was my worry. It’s only a few hundred pound more for the 9kw, plus I’ll get it plumbed into my current two man system. The 5kw was Mayb just going to be too small.
Looking at the numbers your getting heat wise, I’ll be fine with the 9kw in winter.
£4 in diesel isn’t much more than I’m paying in electric for my immersion, so that’s fine.
Thanks.
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I suggest you ask Oliver regarding safe operating.temperatures.
There are so many variables that you need to be aware of if you want to avoid buying new glass for your customers.
Mr B
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I suggest you ask Oliver regarding safe operating.temperatures.
There are so many variables that you need to be aware of if you want to avoid buying new glass for your customers.
Mr B
Interesting video clip Mr B
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeqpH53Mk1k
First of all, the hot water didn't cause the glass to break. It also seem to contradict the Mpemba effect where hot water appears to freeze quicker than cold water.
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You will love it.
I have two pumps running.. Mine can't run one hot and one cold. They need to be the same. The heater is controlled by one controller to turn the heater on and off. The second pump and controller draws off the boiler whether its on or off. So if the Heater is on then both pumps run on hot.
I keep the second pump running back to the tank at a low flow just to prevent the burner shutting down when your main pump is DE. Don't worry as it takes a while anyway to shut down if you don't have another pump on constant flow back to tank. But if you leave your main controlled on DE for more than 5 mins without a second pump running the burner will go into shut down mode.
It's advised not to keep it going into shutdown mode and startup mode regularly.
Use the return to tank method to keep burner on between jobs if its going to be less then 20 mins between the jobs to help protect the burner.
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I suggest you ask Oliver regarding safe operating.temperatures.
There are so many variables that you need to be aware of if you want to avoid buying new glass for your customers.
Interesting video clip Mr B
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeqpH53Mk1k
First of all, the hot water didn't cause the glass to break. It also seem to contradict the Mpemba effect where hot water appears to freeze quicker than cold water.
I Accept no breakages on this you tube video
But where the sealed units are in frames in a real world scenario, you can get expansion and if the sealed units are packet too tightly the glass will break.
Also possible if there's hidden damage on edges that are obscured once unit fitted in frame.
This is just from some experience earlier this year.
99.9 % you can get away with murder temperature wise but there's always one that will catch you out, hence why I go on the cautious side.
Oliver will be along in a minute to give the definitive on this...
Mr B
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keep the heater running all day at full blast summer or winter.this is the best way to run these heaters.i dont have a second pump so return to tank when driving between jobs or having a brew....sometimes ill turn the heater off at lunchtime and fire it back up 10 mins before i start back(i also turn it on first thing in the morning before i leave for work)....
the heater has a short "stand by" feature and goes into half heat mode so wont shut down when you turn your tap off at the pole straight away but it will if your dont turn your pole tap back on within 3 mins or plug it into your return valves......i find 3 mins long enough to get back to the van and plug into return valves or drag my hose to the next job and start cleaning again...
make sure you get the b to b smart charger fitted too...its brilliant for charging the batteries up on the go when driving about....also buy a numax connect and forget 20amp charger for connecting up in the evening to keep the batteries in tip top condition....
dont worry about running the heater on full blast in the winter months as lots of heat is lost from the hose on a cold day so the water at the brush end is not too hot anyway... ;)
i love my heater....yes its expensive(and a little indulgent!) ;D....but its fantastic!hot water on tap all year round with frost protection,NO messing about with gas bottles....just fill up at your local garage as you would normally..... 8)
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I don't bother with all this temp reading twaddle.
Just use your own sense of touch. If it's pipping hot and bearable to touch it will be fine in the summer.
Winter I make sure it's nice and warm as if your washing your hands in the sink. No issues at all.
With the hose out in the winter the temp at brush head drops anyway so I tend to always have mine set on full heat or just a tad under.
If cleaning old or single glazed glass I turn off the burner and use cold or luke warm.
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jonny you live in scotland.....is there a fitting centre up there or are you coming all the way down to cambridgeshire?
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i find on a warm day in summer its unbearable to keep my hand in front of the jets for longer than a few seconds!but its excellent for cleaning!theres always lots more stuff on the windows(sticky pollen,bird muck etc) and the very hot water helps.... :)
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I suggest you ask Oliver regarding safe operating.temperatures.
There are so many variables that you need to be aware of if you want to avoid buying new glass for your customers.
Interesting video clip Mr B
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeqpH53Mk1k
First of all, the hot water didn't cause the glass to break. It also seem to contradict the Mpemba effect where hot water appears to freeze quicker than cold water.
I Accept no breakages on this you tube video
But where the sealed units are in frames in a real world scenario, you can get expansion and if the sealed units are packet too tightly the glass will break.
Also possible if there's hidden damage on edges that are obscured once unit fitted in frame.
This is just from some experience earlier this year.
99.9 % you can get away with murder temperature wise but there's always one that will catch you out, hence why I go on the cautious side.
Oliver will be along in a minute to give the definitive on this...
Mr B
It was interesting how hot water didn't do any damage to the glass. I honestly would have thought that the glass would break.
However, I agree that the frame could change things. We had a window pop in the Atrium of our local high school this summer. They put it down to expansion caused by the above normal hot weather this year. But I also wonder if the glass was too tight in the frames (ali frames)when the school was built. But the Linear Temperature Expansion Coefficient of glass isn't that high.
I would think that a UPVC frame would not be that rigid. Of course we can't rule our a crack developing from glass damage or a manufacturing floor/fault. In the old days of steel window frames we regularily had cracks in the glass caused by expansion and contraction exacerbated but hardened putty that had no 'flex'.
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If your rural you don’t want to run it flat out hot you’ll at best creak the glass at worst crack it,and as for running it at 25-30 on the flo controller if that’s the case you are working with far to low a flo rate imo.
I have a 5kw heater Daz and it puts out 45-55 degrees running water on the flo controller at 75-80 it’s way hot enough in most cases to hot to hold your hand under it,if it’s so hot you wouldn’t want to bath in it without adding cold it’s more than hot enough to clean windows with,I really don’t know what the fuss is about the cost of these units,if you have anywhere near the kind of work your considering 1 you’ll pay for it in weeks not months they are well worth the money and are essential for the winter months for keeping you working and more importantly keeping your van frost free.
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If I recirculated back to tank on a flow of 15-20 I’ll get 70 degrees prior to cleaning the next job,if I’m off to a PVC job next I’ll do this as it’s never effected by high temperatures PVC,if I was going to be cleaning an old house with delicate glass I’d turn it down to minimum.
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If your rural you don’t want to run it flat out hot you’ll at best creak the glass at worst crack it,and as for running it at 25-30 on the flo controller if that’s the case you are working with far to low a flo rate imo.
I have a 5kw heater Daz and it puts out 45-55 degrees running water on the flo controller at 75-80 it’s way hot enough in most cases to hot to hold your hand under it,if it’s so hot you wouldn’t want to bath in it without adding cold it’s more than hot enough to clean windows with,I really don’t know what the fuss is about the cost of these units,if you have anywhere near the kind of work your considering 1 you’ll pay for it in weeks not months they are well worth the money and are essential for the winter months for keeping you working and more importantly keeping your van frost free.
the only reason your 5kw heater is getting to those sorts of temperatures is because you ve done something to it(which will void the warranty on a new one).i remember when you used to moan about it not getting hot enough....this is the reason why PURE FREEDOM have stopped selling the 5 kw heaters......complaints of window cleaners not happy with them and only getting luke warm water...
mines the WEBASTO THERMO PRO 90 12V MARINE
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If your rural you don’t want to run it flat out hot you’ll at best creak the glass at worst crack it,and as for running it at 25-30 on the flo controller if that’s the case you are working with far to low a flo rate imo.
I have a 5kw heater Daz and it puts out 45-55 degrees running water on the flo controller at 75-80 it’s way hot enough in most cases to hot to hold your hand under it,if it’s so hot you wouldn’t want to bath in it without adding cold it’s more than hot enough to clean windows with,I really don’t know what the fuss is about the cost of these units,if you have anywhere near the kind of work your considering 1 you’ll pay for it in weeks not months they are well worth the money and are essential for the winter months for keeping you working and more importantly keeping your van frost free.
also ALL SYSTEMS ARE DIFFERENT!i run my controller on 35-40 and its gushing out of the jets at these settings!
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It's like watching a rerun of an old Christmas Special of Only Fools & Horses :D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Those of you with a Grippa system, how often do you charge it over night?
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Those of you with a Grippa system, how often do you charge it over night?
Every night before a days work for me.
Although I think a charge could last 2 days
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Those of you with a Grippa system, how often do you charge it over night?
every night.........
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I suggest you ask Oliver regarding safe operating.temperatures.
There are so many variables that you need to be aware of if you want to avoid buying new glass for your customers.
Mr B
Interesting video clip Mr B
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeqpH53Mk1k
First of all, the hot water didn't cause the glass to break. It also seem to contradict the Mpemba effect where hot water appears to freeze quicker than cold water.
on a really cold day i thaw out windows that are frozen(on connys/porches with no heating on)with my hot water no problem...they dont ice back up either usually so hot water DOES NOT freeze quicker than cold water at all......its a myth.....(for cleaning windows in icy conditions anyway)....
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You will love it.
I have two pumps running.. Mine can't run one hot and one cold. They need to be the same. The heater is controlled by one controller to turn the heater on and off. The second pump and controller draws off the boiler whether its on or off. So if the Heater is on then both pumps run on hot.
I keep the second pump running back to the tank at a low flow just to prevent the burner shutting down when your main pump is DE. Don't worry as it takes a while anyway to shut down if you don't have another pump on constant flow back to tank. But if you leave your main controlled on DE for more than 5 mins without a second pump running the burner will go into shut down mode.
It's advised not to keep it going into shutdown mode and startup mode regularly.
Use the return to tank method to keep burner on between jobs if its going to be less then 20 mins between the jobs to help protect the burner.
Thanks Paul!
I’m going to run it the same way. If there’s two of us working then great, if not I will have one circulating back to the tank and monitor the temperature of the tank water.
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jonny you live in scotland.....is there a fitting centre up there or are you coming all the way down to cambridgeshire?
There is but I’m coming down to Cambridge for it. :)
Fitting is actually a few hundred quid cheaper, and I quite fancy making a trip of it. Wife is already planning places to visit when we’re down, lol.
I’m just ironing out the final Details with Oliver, then going to get a date booked. They are booked out till November though. Just hope this winter doesn’t start too early. 😬
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I have a Grippatank 9 kw boiler with two heat exchangers one runs each hose reel we work as a two man operation per van. in the summer I have it set on minimum as it was so hot you couldn’t put your hand under it at all or re wind the hose you couldn’t hold the hose , winter time it’s run flat out all the time on maximum 8 hours a day 5 days a week I find that my fuel costs are around £70 per week and we don’t do much mileage it definitely uses more fuel than the manufacturer s figures , but I would never go back to cold it’s definitely quicker , cleans better , especially on salt covered windows , and plastic cleans , we have cracked 2 windows in four years not good but u can live with the occasional pay out both windows had previously been damaged or were packed to tight when originally fitted ,according to the company who replaced them ,
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If you run very hot if any pane has a tiny crack in it on a cold day it will crack from corner to corner as soon as the hot water hits the glass,a lot of the time these small cracks can’t be seen from the ground. I clean with confidence on PVC on very cold days but you have to be careful on older glass.
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I cracked one small pane on an opener back in Jan.it already had a small crack in the corner and it went the full length of the glass and popped!the customer was fine about it as it was already damaged....my water was warm(not hot).It was quite a cold day but not freezing(4c)...
I'm now very careful of any glass that has a crack in it as hot water will damage it even further....
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For those who 've had the hydroheats for a while...have you ever had them serviced and where do you go?don't fancy going all the way back down to Cambridge if I can go to somewhere nearer...pure freedom said they would service it for me when the time comes(it's a bit nearer than cambridge)
Cheers lads
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They’ll service it at your house I don’t rhink there’s a lot you can do with em tbh,if something’s not working on it you’ll know very quickly. You have the plug in battery converter with is key to keeping them running right I do 60 odd miles a day which means I only need to plug in the mains once a month or so as I have there very good split charger also.
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They’ll service it at your house I don’t rhink there’s a lot you can do with em tbh,if something’s not working on it you’ll know very quickly. You have the plug in battery converter with is key to keeping them running right I do 60 odd miles a day which means I only need to plug in the mains once a month or so as I have there very good split charger also.
have you ever had the burner replaced on your 10+ year old heater nigel?or had anything replaced on it during its working life?
cheers
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I replaced everything on it Daz I changed the complete unit,when you assemble the new 1 you have to put it together like your changing a burner. You have to reinsert the burner line up the glow pin and plug the burner or glow pin lead back into the unit,it’s not to bad to do quiet easy really you just have to make sure you take pictures with all in place and keep taking them as you take it apart.
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If I had to change a burner it would be no problem probably take an or so,taking it apart and putting it back together is what takes the time not fitting the burner.
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Those of you with a Grippa system, how often do you charge it over night?
I charge mine every weekend for one night !!
But my round is quite scattered. I don’t have houses together where I would be there cleaning for a morning or all afternoon like Daz. So the system gets a charge up between customers.
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October 31st & November 1st. 8)
Booked in for the 9kw hydroheat, battery to battery charger, new hot water hoses and fitting. Can’t wait.
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Nice.
Just do your research on the chargeing method as its unlikely a battery to battery charger will cut it. You will also need to bench charge from time to time.
Grippa installed one of me so all I do is plug the mains into the socket installed on the van and let it charge overnight securely. It also needs to be a powerful one to be able to charge two batteries..
You might want to think about this before purchasing both options. The bench charge will be enough without the need of Battery to Battery instalation.
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Nice.
Just do your research on the chargeing method as its unlikely a battery to battery charger will cut it. You will also need to bench charge from time to time.
Grippa installed one of me so all I do is plug the mains into the socket installed on the van and let it charge overnight securely. It also needs to be a powerful one to be able to charge two batteries..
You might want to think about this before purchasing both options. The bench charge will be enough without the need of Battery to Battery instalation.
Thanks for the tips paul. That’s an interesting one. Think Im Going to stick with the battery to battery charger and just monitor things from there. I don’t mind having to bench charge every other night, or even every night if I have to. I also run two power up reels so I think I need to have some power getting put back into the batteries throughout the day.
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Nice.
Just do your research on the chargeing method as its unlikely a battery to battery charger will cut it. You will also need to bench charge from time to time.
Grippa installed one of me so all I do is plug the mains into the socket installed on the van and let it charge overnight securely. It also needs to be a powerful one to be able to charge two batteries..
You might want to think about this before purchasing both options. The bench charge will be enough without the need of Battery to Battery instalation.
i disagree...i think its better to have both charging methods to keep the batteries in tip top condition...diesel heaters are heavy on batteries esp the 9kw version so i little charge when driving to and from jobs and driving to work and back keeps them from dropping too low IMO.....
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Probably overkill Daz or paranoia ;D
Been running mine a year now bench charging every night. Battery readings never go under 12.4 at end of day. Most days it finishes on 12.5.
However I don't use power reels though.
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Probably overkill Daz or paranoia ;D
Been running mine a year now bench charging every night. Battery readings never go under 12.4 at end of day. Most days it finishes on 12.5.
However I don't use power reels though.
both me and jonny use powered reels so that takes more out of the batteries each day......id rather not discharge them more than 25%(its supposed to be better for the batteries longevity).....also occasionally ill go 2 days without bench charging....
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I'd get both in the van too.
That's what I've got, the 9kw plus electric Grippa reel,with batt to batt charger as I drive around, and also the smart charger for a boost at the weekend (for me anyway, as I don't have a really compact round). Grippatank put the plug socket at the back tailgate of van and provided the right length extension cable with plug for my shed socket.
Well worth doing that Jonny.
I liked my immersion set up.
But there's something about my Grippa set up that makes life so much easier. Most days, I just get home, fill up the tank. That's it. On the weekend, one night, I'll put the charger to go.
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I'd get both in the van too.
That's what I've got, the 9kw plus electric Grippa reel,with batt to batt charger as I drive around, and also the smart charger for a boost at the weekend (for me anyway, as I don't have a really compact round). Grippatank put the plug socket at the back tailgate of van and provided the right length extension cable with plug for my shed socket.
Well worth doing that Jonny.
I liked my immersion set up.
But there's something about my Grippa set up that makes life so much easier. Most days, I just get home, fill up the tank. That's it. On the weekend, one night, I'll put the charger to go.
Sounds great. I love the idea of never having to worry about heating the van at nights during the winter too. Was always a pain for me trying to work out what setting to have the oil filled radiator on, and even then it didn’t always work. Plus cost me a few quid at night just for protection. It’s a luxury I’m really looking forward to.
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professionally fitted diesel heaters are the best.i wish id got one years ago than trying to do things on the cheap messing about with gas heaters and bottles... :).
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professionally fitted diesel heaters are the best.i wish id got one years ago than trying to do things on the cheap messing about with gas heaters and bottles... :).
I’m really happy they’ve managed to squeeze me In sooner than I thought. Only 3 and a bit weeks to wait. :) how long did yours take to fit Daz? They’ve asked for the van for two days.
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professionally fitted diesel heaters are the best.i wish id got one years ago than trying to do things on the cheap messing about with gas heaters and bottles... :).
I’m really happy they’ve managed to squeeze me In sooner than I thought. Only 3 and a bit weeks to wait. :) how long did yours take to fit Daz? They’ve asked for the van for two days.
2 days! ;D
Before you drive away from Grippa, get them to run your heater for a while without your engine running. It appears that the old way of tapping into the diesel return pipe is no longer working on some vehicles as the return pipe finishes off at the top of the tank. Ask Dazmond.
I would use the time to contact the manufacturer of your van and check how they advise a diesel tap off the tank be made if you can't find anything on the internet.
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Good point!!
I've got the Transit Custom and it works well. Had my system fitted in April. In fact, yesterday I was in the sticks and nearly out of diesel with one house to go, I was a bit worried tbh. But I thought I'd see how the heater got on with low fuel (below 1/4). It carried on. I thought it would have shut down.
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professionally fitted diesel heaters are the best.i wish id got one years ago than trying to do things on the cheap messing about with gas heaters and bottles... :).
I’m really happy they’ve managed to squeeze me In sooner than I thought. Only 3 and a bit weeks to wait. :) how long did yours take to fit Daz? They’ve asked for the van for two days.
2 days! ;D
Before you drive away from Grippa, get them to run your heater for a while without your engine running. It appears that the old way of tapping into the diesel return pipe is no longer working on some vehicles as the return pipe finishes off at the top of the tank. Ask Dazmond.
I would use the time to contact the manufacturer of your van and check how they advise a diesel tap off the tank be made if you can't find anything on the internet.
Thanks spruce. I will do. :)
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Good point!!
I've got the Transit Custom and it works well. Had my system fitted in April. In fact, yesterday I was in the sticks and nearly out of diesel with one house to go, I was a bit worried tbh. But I thought I'd see how the heater got on with low fuel (below 1/4). It carried on. I thought it would have shut down.
Was that the recommendation to not let your vans fuel tank drop below 1/4? I’ll need to remember that. :)
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professionally fitted diesel heaters are the best.i wish id got one years ago than trying to do things on the cheap messing about with gas heaters and bottles... :).
I’m really happy they’ve managed to squeeze me In sooner than I thought. Only 3 and a bit weeks to wait. :) how long did yours take to fit Daz? They’ve asked for the van for two days.
heater fitting took a full day while me and the missus went to cambridge for the day......however after driving 4 hours to get home the same day, the morning after the heater wouldnt work without the engine running!
so grippa drove all the way up to mine with a courtesy van and then drove mine all the way back to the fitting centre....fixed it....then drove back to mine 2 days later.... ;D
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professionally fitted diesel heaters are the best.i wish id got one years ago than trying to do things on the cheap messing about with gas heaters and bottles... :).
I’m really happy they’ve managed to squeeze me In sooner than I thought. Only 3 and a bit weeks to wait. :) how long did yours take to fit Daz? They’ve asked for the van for two days.
heater fitting took a full day while me and the missus went to cambridge for the day......however after driving 4 hours to get home the same day, the morning after the heater wouldnt work without the engine running!
so grippa drove all the way up to mine with a courtesy van and then drove mine all the way back to the fitting centre....fixed it....then drove back to mine 2 days later.... ;D
Although it must have been a pain, customer service seems top drawer. Really happy so far. I’ll make sure it runs for 5 mins or so with the engine off though. ;D
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professionally fitted diesel heaters are the best.i wish id got one years ago than trying to do things on the cheap messing about with gas heaters and bottles... :).
I’m really happy they’ve managed to squeeze me In sooner than I thought. Only 3 and a bit weeks to wait. :) how long did yours take to fit Daz? They’ve asked for the van for two days.
2 days! ;D
Before you drive away from Grippa, get them to run your heater for a while without your engine running. It appears that the old way of tapping into the diesel return pipe is no longer working on some vehicles as the return pipe finishes off at the top of the tank. Ask Dazmond.
I would use the time to contact the manufacturer of your van and check how they advise a diesel tap off the tank be made if you can't find anything on the internet.
TRUST ME grippa will not make that mistake twice....thats probably why they want the van for 2 days!theyll run the heater without the engine running as a matter of course now i reckon.... ;D
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professionally fitted diesel heaters are the best.i wish id got one years ago than trying to do things on the cheap messing about with gas heaters and bottles... :).
I’m really happy they’ve managed to squeeze me In sooner than I thought. Only 3 and a bit weeks to wait. :) how long did yours take to fit Daz? They’ve asked for the van for two days.
2 days! ;D
Before you drive away from Grippa, get them to run your heater for a while without your engine running. It appears that the old way of tapping into the diesel return pipe is no longer working on some vehicles as the return pipe finishes off at the top of the tank. Ask Dazmond.
I would use the time to contact the manufacturer of your van and check how they advise a diesel tap off the tank be made if you can't find anything on the internet.
TRUST ME grippa will not make that mistake twice....thats probably why they want the van for 2 days!theyll run the heater without the engine running as a matter of course now i reckon.... ;D
Think your right mate. It will be part of their procedure now I bet. :) it’s a long way to scotland.
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Good point!!
I've got the Transit Custom and it works well. Had my system fitted in April. In fact, yesterday I was in the sticks and nearly out of diesel with one house to go, I was a bit worried tbh. But I thought I'd see how the heater got on with low fuel (below 1/4). It carried on. I thought it would have shut down.
Hi Rigsby, i had my Grippatank Hydroheat heater fitted back in January, as soon as your fuel tank is down to 1/4 of a Tank more
or less, the Heater should cut out, acting as a Failsafe, to stop you running out of Fuel and leaving you stranded, some time back
i was working knowing my tank was around 1/4 full more or less, before i finished the job the heater cut out, so it does work.
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Good point!!
I've got the Transit Custom and it works well. Had my system fitted in April. In fact, yesterday I was in the sticks and nearly out of diesel with one house to go, I was a bit worried tbh. But I thought I'd see how the heater got on with low fuel (below 1/4). It carried on. I thought it would have shut down.
Hi Rigsby, i had my Grippatank Hydroheat heater fitted back in January, as soon as your fuel tank is down to 1/4 of a Tank more
or less, the Heater should cut out, acting as a Failsafe, to stop you running out of Fuel and leaving you stranded, some time back
i was working knowing my tank was around 1/4 full more or less, before i finished the job the heater cut out, so it does work.
Hi Lal,
That’s good to know. I always thought if the heater ran out of fuel then you had to have the system primed again which was a pain? Did it just cut out, and then when you filled up with diesel it ran fine again?
Thanks,
Jonny.
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ive ran it just past a 1/4 full and its been fine.i wouldnt go any lower though..... ;)
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Good point!!
I've got the Transit Custom and it works well. Had my system fitted in April. In fact, yesterday I was in the sticks and nearly out of diesel with one house to go, I was a bit worried tbh. But I thought I'd see how the heater got on with low fuel (below 1/4). It carried on. I thought it would have shut down.
Hi Rigsby, i had my Grippatank Hydroheat heater fitted back in January, as soon as your fuel tank is down to 1/4 of a Tank more
or less, the Heater should cut out, acting as a Failsafe, to stop you running out of Fuel and leaving you stranded, some time back
i was working knowing my tank was around 1/4 full more or less, before i finished the job the heater cut out, so it does work.
Hi Lal,
That’s good to know. I always thought if the heater ran out of fuel then you had to have the system primed again which was a pain? Did it just cut out, and then when you filled up with diesel it ran fine again?
Thanks,
Jonny.
Hi Jonny, yes when i topped up the Fuel again and started work the next day it didn't startup right away for a good few minutes, it probably goes through some sort of reboot, like you stated i was worried that it might need to be primed, i worked in Dry Cleaning many yonks ago, and on the rare occasion if we ran the cleaning machine to low on cleaning solvent, the main pump would run dry, then you had the PITA job of shutting the whole thing down, removing the pump from the main tank to prime it,
I wouldn't have the foggiest how you would prime the Hydroheat heater if you had to, so these days as soon as tank is getting near a 1/4 Full, i immediately go to the garage and top my diesel up, to remove any risks of problems with the heater.
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Good point!!
I've got the Transit Custom and it works well. Had my system fitted in April. In fact, yesterday I was in the sticks and nearly out of diesel with one house to go, I was a bit worried tbh. But I thought I'd see how the heater got on with low fuel (below 1/4). It carried on. I thought it would have shut down.
Hi Rigsby, i had my Grippatank Hydroheat heater fitted back in January, as soon as your fuel tank is down to 1/4 of a Tank more
or less, the Heater should cut out, acting as a Failsafe, to stop you running out of Fuel and leaving you stranded, some time back
i was working knowing my tank was around 1/4 full more or less, before i finished the job the heater cut out, so it does work.
Hi Lal,
That’s good to know. I always thought if the heater ran out of fuel then you had to have the system primed again which was a pain? Did it just cut out, and then when you filled up with diesel it ran fine again?
Thanks,
Jonny.
Hi Jonny, yes when i topped up the Fuel again and started work the next day it didn't startup right away for a good few minutes, it probably goes through some sort of reboot, like you stated i was worried that it might need to be primed, i worked in Dry Cleaning many yonks ago, and on the rare occasion if we ran the cleaning machine to low on cleaning solvent, the main pump would run dry, then you had the PITA job of shutting the whole thing down, removing the pump from the main tank to prime it,
I wouldn't have the foggiest how you would prime the Hydroheat heater if you had to, so these days as soon as tank is getting near a 1/4 Full, i immediately go to the garage and top my diesel up, to remove any risks of problems with the heater.
That’s wise. Thanks Lal.
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Good point!!
I've got the Transit Custom and it works well. Had my system fitted in April. In fact, yesterday I was in the sticks and nearly out of diesel with one house to go, I was a bit worried tbh. But I thought I'd see how the heater got on with low fuel (below 1/4). It carried on. I thought it would have shut down.
Hi Rigsby, i had my Grippatank Hydroheat heater fitted back in January, as soon as your fuel tank is down to 1/4 of a Tank more
or less, the Heater should cut out, acting as a Failsafe, to stop you running out of Fuel and leaving you stranded, some time back
i was working knowing my tank was around 1/4 full more or less, before i finished the job the heater cut out, so it does work.
Hi lal,
Yeh, I thought that was the case, I must have read it in the manual. Good to know, thanks for that 👍