Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: cleaning co on June 26, 2006, 02:30:49 pm
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HI LADS, in post this morning info on ashbys new vac booster, thet are making big claims on this ,use over 400ft hose !! this sounds tad much i think , after all its just a third vac hooked up to the exhaust , and rember u can hook any machine upto another by the exhaust i do this myself giving me not 3 but 4 3 stage vacs but 400ft hose nah maybe 150ft at a push, your views please , and petrol truckmounters what do u think should u hav brought your truckmount when u can achieve 400ft with a porty ?
gary
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p.s its £595 plus vat !!! :o
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400 feet off 3 vacs, I'll believe it when I see it!
It's the tripped fuses in peoples homes that put me off these new suped-up portys. The only way round it is to run a generator, but then you may as well spend a bit more and get a truck mount.
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95% of the time I never use more than 70' of hose with my truckmount. Occasionally have to use 120'. Why would I want 400'.
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yes i go with u on belive it when i c it , but as for tripping eletric thats bit of a myth i never hav, rember theres a max amount of eletric u can pull through one lead on 240volts anything over this amount and it would melt the plug in the socket , and if this was the case they would never be alowed to sell them, as for a geny it would hav to be huge to power a high powerd porty
gary
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hi jhon just one q mate y did u buy a truckmount if u never need to use more than 70 ft hose ???
gary
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Cos I'm an old fart and couldn't be bothered to hump a porty around any more ;D
I know you are going to say I could have left the porty in the van. However with my Prowler I can do anything I need including carpet cleaning at up to 300' but more importantly flood cleanups when sometimes there isn't any electricity. All i need to do now is fill my water tank up in the morning, make sure Ive got petrol and I can go all day, easy peasy ; :D
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;D ok fair comment jhon each to thier own ;D but i would say vast maj of truck mounters brought them because of the long lenghts of hose they can use and if this is the case and what ashbys claim is true which i find hard to belive , would this hav had an efect on thier decision to buy a truckmount ? i am just intrested thats all and in noway having a dig at truckmounters 8)
gary
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i agree with john the t/m is much easier to use hardly any set up time less intrusive in many ways , and quicker i used it last week at 150ft three flights up with no loss of power. i proved it at the week end with a water lift guage .cant see a port doing that somehow. though i must stress i still have my porty and do use it. there is a place for both machines
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lol u missing my point , i was asking if u had a porty that done as they claim 400ft hose would this hav had a effect on u chosseing a truckmount , i am not talking about a truckmount being easyer to use 8)
gary
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£ 595 for a vac motor in a box with a lead!!!! :o
what planet they on!!!, surly be cheaper buy vac motor and make up a box, cant be much to it,
or hav i got that wrong?
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p.s carpetclean out of intrest what did the gauge show 150 ft? and were did u get it from
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£ 595 for a vac motor in a box with a lead!!!! :o
what planet they on!!!, surly be cheaper buy vac motor and make up a box, cant be much to it,
or hav i got that wrong?
lol yes i agree craig it seems lot money when u could buy yourself a second smaller machine with one vac and connect it up the same as and also u end up with a backup machine with a pump etc in it
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Iv seen there box and i did like it, it gives you quite a bit more power than the two vacs you can really feel the difference
400ft ::) cant quite see that one myself, they sent me info on it aswell and i thought the same thing
i would be happy to use it at 100ft and just over with the 3vacs though
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cleaning co i have sent you an email
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£595 is the same price as Solutions power boast.
Is there a price Cartell in operation.
What is the claimed Waterlift as this is the stastistic they always qoute.
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vac motor 3 stage £50 quid from woodbridge,
all you need wire it up, mount it in a box with its 3 point mounts, run a bit of hose off for attaching to your exhust, thats it !!!
now why should that cost £595 ? lol
they see us c/c coming ;D
it should really be £150 - £200 max
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I do believe that the ashbys booster box incorparates a 7" three stage motor!!
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It wont be a 7in motor it will more likely be a 7.2in motor.
Gerrards often use up to 1000 ft of 2in hose from the truckmount.
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i dare say if i am wrong the engineers among you will put me right. but if you attach a third vac that is pulling through tow motors will it not shorten the life of those motors!?
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£595 is the same price as Solutions power boast.
Is there a price Cartell in operation.
What is the claimed Waterlift as this is the stastistic they always qoute.
WATER LIFT 270,20IN MERCURY LIFT
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I do believe that the ashbys booster box incorparates a 7" three stage motor!!
still cant see it justfing that price, if you make one up you twin mount 2 x 145mm 3 stage vacs, bet that a be more then!! ;D
i stand buy, its a rip off!!! well over priced.
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we have been using prochem machines for 21 years and have just started using an ashbys ninja with the booster motor attachment. so far it is an excellent machine ,we use it mostly as a van based machine running up to 100ft of hose with a 400psi pump. the booster definately makes a big difference over 50ft. the booster housing also acts as a silencer and incorporates a fan for cooling. yes it is expensive but it seems to earn its keep.
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Am I right in saying that the perfomance is increased by 15% aprox.
Is this worthwhile or are there other benifits.
Tried to find it on Web Site but no details.
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i am not sure what percentage increase there is, but using the booster with 50ft of hose or over there seems to be little difference in vac power compared to twin vacs with 25ft of hose. what you basicly get is the capability to have an even vac power up to 100ft.
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The efficiency of a POWER BOOSTER System all depends upon the design. This will determine how much it will add to your machine---and at the wand. It is very importnat to note that all these booster units --are not all the same---and therefore will vary in performance and real purpose. I know this extremely well since I designed this system and concept in the early '70's and patented it in 1980.
Just a little true facts as well as HISTORY to.
Good Fortune to all;
Ed Valentine
cross-american corp.
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Having seen it in action i agree with dirtbusters, gives you the same power your used to at 25-50 foot but you can use much longer hose lenghths. The main benifit of one of these is if your planning to leave the machine in the van or outside jobs.
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if you want to add an extra vac motor make a false wastetank lid for your machine and fit a suction pipe on it, they add the extra suction there, no point pulling through the existing motors
Mike
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ashbys hav bin making such a lid for years
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Never seen such a lid advertised by them.
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yes paul its called a vac booster lid which has two hose inlets
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have you got as picture you could post?
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hi no soorry i havnt try ashby web site
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that what i mean in my post they don't advertise it, it's not obviouse on thier website
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Hi all,
This Vac booster was actually a suggestion from me, when discussing possibilities with Derek, every one seems to forget that these things have to be designed from the ground up, mouldings for the casing, testing for functionality, safety and compatability, they then have to submitted for CE approvals(kite marks) etc, then of course production costs, then they can arrive at a figure that will be affordable to most.
Yes you can buy a smaller machine, which will indeed serve your purpose and give you a back-up machine, but has everyone got the space for yet another machine. Everyone is quick to hit on a negative note on ideas and various types of equipment (which is easy to do), that said, there must be a market for these things, otherwise they wouldn't be out there for us to consider and or buy. We all have a choice in these things, so if you don't like it, don't buy it.
Incidently I know Derek invested a fair amount of money, time and effort into the booster box, as we do in our training, equipment choice and general practice, everything is ongoing so shouldn't we keep an open mind about these things. without choice we would all be running the same gear, how boring would that be.
I've had my say, keep getting it right folks, custys all-ways right until we prove otherwise ;D
Regards
Ralph
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thats a fair point ralph, on reflextion what i said about price is maybe unfair,
regarding this booster, so it could be and may be better to attach it not onto exhust, but this type of lid, that way not pulling through vacs?
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Ralph
Submitted for CE approvals (kite marks) who dose it?
Len
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2 different things Len
# Kite mark. Products with the kite mark have their production methods inspected by BSI. A requirement is that their products are independently tested at regular intervals.
# CE marks. Some goods have to be marked with CE to show they pass all European standards. Examples are toys and electrical goods. CE Marking on a product is a manufacturer's declaration that the product complies with the essential requirements of the relevant European health, safety and environmental protection legislation.
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Mark
thanks
Len