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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: stevieg on September 17, 2018, 04:30:03 pm

Title: Importing Chinese poles?
Post by: stevieg on September 17, 2018, 04:30:03 pm
Hi, I have recently been visiting the idea of doing the above, and have been reading past posts. The question is now that a few years have passed how have these same people got on with them, If positively is the process simple?

Thanks. Steve.
Title: Re: Importing Chinese poles?
Post by: Spruce on September 17, 2018, 05:11:18 pm
Hi, I have recently been visiting the idea of doing the above, and have been reading past posts. The question is now that a few years have passed how have these same people got on with them, If positively is the process simple?

Thanks. Steve.

Go for it and let us know how you get on.
Title: Re: Importing Chinese poles?
Post by: bobplum on September 17, 2018, 05:58:52 pm
Some have done it, not big orders either, one or two poles, you may be best asking on the facebook pages
Title: Re: Importing Chinese poles?
Post by: dd on September 17, 2018, 06:56:12 pm
I find gardiner poles reasonably priced and mine last a good few years (slx). As far as overheads go the cost of a pole is a very small  amount when spread over the several years of its life.

Not sure why someone would want to bother importing a pole from China.

Title: Re: Importing Chinese poles?
Post by: dazmond on September 17, 2018, 10:47:14 pm
I find gardiner poles reasonably priced and mine last a good few years (slx). As far as overheads go the cost of a pole is a very small  amount when spread over the several years of its life.

Not sure why someone would want to bother importing a pole from China.

i think its of more interest to window cleaners that are after  high level poles over 45 foot as these are very expensive compared to your average 25 ft day to day poles.....if you could save yourself £500 then it might be worth a punt on a high mod pole.....
Title: Re: Importing Chinese poles?
Post by: stevieg on September 18, 2018, 07:07:03 am
I find gardiner poles reasonably priced and mine last a good few years (slx). As far as overheads go the cost of a pole is a very small  amount when spread over the several years of its life.

Not sure why someone would want to bother importing a pole from China.
Title: Re: Importing Chinese poles?
Post by: stevieg on September 18, 2018, 07:07:54 am
Good for you!! However that wasnt the question that I asked!!
Title: Re: Importing Chinese poles?
Post by: Stoots on September 18, 2018, 07:16:49 am
Where would you order from?

I've seen some on alibaba but always a bit concerned about fraud.

Do you have a reputable supplier in mind?

I would order one
Title: Re: Importing Chinese poles?
Post by: stevieg on September 18, 2018, 04:56:17 pm
That is the further information that I would like from someone or if not I will start the process of finding out how it is done.
Title: Re: Importing Chinese poles?
Post by: bobplum on September 18, 2018, 09:42:37 pm
That is the further information that I would like from someone or if not I will start the process of finding out how it is done.

Emma Zhu, CNER
Title: Re: Importing Chinese poles?
Post by: stevieg on September 19, 2018, 01:22:24 pm
Hi Bobplum, that is the one that I have looked at.   1 pole is 99dollars or £75. It seems to me that you can negotiate the price of carriage? am I right, also do i have to pay tax and is the carriage the same cost if i ordered 2 or 3 poles? Have you done it,do you continue to do it and what are the poles like? Anything else you can think of to help would be useful.
Thanks in advance.  Steve.
Title: Re: Importing Chinese poles?
Post by: Richard Stevenson on September 20, 2018, 05:18:36 pm
I find gardiner poles reasonably priced and mine last a good few years (slx). As far as overheads go the cost of a pole is a very small  amount when spread over the several years of its life

Not sure why someone would want to bother importing a pole from China.
TO SAVE MONEY!
Title: Re: Importing Chinese poles?
Post by: dd on September 20, 2018, 05:40:49 pm
I find gardiner poles reasonably priced and mine last a good few years (slx). As far as overheads go the cost of a pole is a very small  amount when spread over the several years of its life

Not sure why someone would want to bother importing a pole from China.
TO SAVE MONEY!
In my experience you are just as likely to waste money trying to save money. Spend £75 importing a pole from China, find out it is cr8p (assuming you actually receive it) and go and buy a Gardiner pole anyway
Title: Re: Importing Chinese poles?
Post by: Stoots on September 20, 2018, 06:18:42 pm
I have just emailed CNER for a price for a 30 foot carbon shipped.

email is sales@cneradvanced.com

i will wait for the reply and update.
Title: Re: Importing Chinese poles?
Post by: stevieg on September 20, 2018, 06:57:51 pm
Gomo,   so have I.
Title: Re: Importing Chinese poles?
Post by: Perfect Windows on September 20, 2018, 07:07:08 pm
Standard routine seems to be: a few people get excited, a few deride the whole idea, a few don't care. The ones who are excited order them then we never hear another word about the poles.

If they were worth the cash (and effort) I'm sure anyone who bought one would be full of it so I strongly suspect disappointment.

Vin
Title: Re: Importing Chinese poles?
Post by: mufcglen on September 20, 2018, 09:52:38 pm
I’ve read cner is where a few uk pole sellers get they’re poles from, is that where gardiner poles come from China too?
Title: Re: Importing Chinese poles?
Post by: Soupy on September 21, 2018, 06:36:23 am
It does say on their advert that they will do OEM poles, send them drawings and they'll build them to spec. Something like $10 per pole in bulk.
Title: Re: Importing Chinese poles?
Post by: Stoots on September 21, 2018, 09:27:03 am
They make those ova8 poles for definite dint know about the rest but I wouldn't be surprised they seen like the main players
Title: Re: Importing Chinese poles?
Post by: Spruce on September 21, 2018, 10:44:09 am
I’ve read cner is where a few uk pole sellers get they’re poles from, is that where gardiner poles come from China too?

Alex Gardiner recently responded to a Facebook comment about the factory where Gardiner Poles are made.

No-one on FB knows the factory that makes our poles. It is a private factory who do not make tube sets for any other client. They do not advertise or supply any different designs of clamps. Our clamps are made in the U.K and fitted to the tube sections once manufactured.

In order to tout for business many Chinese factories will use photographs of other factories products or brands


and more recently

We do hold the Utility Patents on the Smart Clamp design and technology and hold these Patents in Europe, UK, US, China and Hong Kong. This has allowed us to successfully protect and defend these clamps and their benefits against copies made in China and sold elsewhere.

Our partner factory only assembles window cleaning poles for our company and for no other window cleaning supply companies. No factory owns the Patents to our products, only we do and we have these clamps made here in the UK.

Whilst other pole brands are multiplying only the Gardiner pole has the Smart Clamp advantage.
Title: Re: Importing Chinese poles?
Post by: Spruce on September 21, 2018, 10:53:07 am
Standard routine seems to be: a few people get excited, a few deride the whole idea, a few don't care. The ones who are excited order them then we never hear another word about the poles.

If they were worth the cash (and effort) I'm sure anyone who bought one would be full of it so I strongly suspect disappointment.

Vin

That sums it up perfectly.

We had a few imports from China appearing for sale on Ebay under different names. As fast as they popped up they disappeared.
Title: Re: Importing Chinese poles?
Post by: mufcglen on September 21, 2018, 11:01:34 am
keep seeing new clamps alot lately but gardiner clamps are spot on for me personally, think they got it nailed with the quick loc too!
has anyone seen this new god of water pole too??
Title: Re: Importing Chinese poles?
Post by: Stoots on September 26, 2018, 11:37:18 am
Ok so I've had a reply from CNER

£145 for a 30ft carbon pole.

BUT it's a minimum order of 50  :-\

They make the boss poles sold by bladeright and the oval ova8 poles.

So you can see the profit margins on the poles we buy is about 100%

Title: Re: Importing Chinese poles?
Post by: Soupy on September 26, 2018, 11:51:13 am
Ok so I've had a reply from CNER

£145 for a 30ft carbon pole.

BUT it's a minimum order of 50  :-\

They make the boss poles sold by bladeright and the oval ova8 poles.

So you can see the profit margins on the poles we buy is about 100%

More because I'd imagine big orders = big discounts.
Title: Re: Importing Chinese poles?
Post by: mufcglen on September 26, 2018, 02:59:29 pm
Ok so I've had a reply from CNER

£145 for a 30ft carbon pole.

BUT it's a minimum order of 50  :-\

They make the boss poles sold by bladeright and the oval ova8 poles.

So you can see the profit margins on the poles we buy is about 100%

i believe some of the lads who've had poles from this company say they want a sample first and get around the minimum amount pal, look for an emma zhu on facebook i think she has something to do with them and will send you price lists according to the lads on there!
Title: Re: Importing Chinese poles?
Post by: Stoots on September 26, 2018, 06:27:13 pm
Ok so I've had a reply from CNER

£145 for a 30ft carbon pole.

BUT it's a minimum order of 50  :-\

They make the boss poles sold by bladeright and the oval ova8 poles.

So you can see the profit margins on the poles we buy is about 100%

i believe some of the lads who've had poles from this company say they want a sample first and get around the minimum amount pal, look for an emma zhu on facebook i think she has something to do with them and will send you price lists according to the lads on there!

I asked for 1 to test.

Answer was no, minimum order 50.

I will try contacting Emma zhu then