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Title: Your partner.
Post by: John Mart on September 02, 2018, 02:57:36 pm
By the time I went limited, Mrs 8 weekly was already leafleting 10 hours a week, doing credit control and no longer in other full time employment. So it was a natural thing that she got 50% of the business and still does the “fadmin” as she calls it.

I just wondered what others do in their businesses? Do they share the ownership?
Title: Re: Your partner.
Post by: Kev Martin on September 02, 2018, 03:56:46 pm
Behind every good businessman there is usually a brilliant woman
Title: Re: Your partner.
Post by: KS Cleaning on September 02, 2018, 03:59:15 pm
My wife works full time but I still used to put her through the books at £120 per week, she paid the full 20% tax on her wage I gave her,  in doing this I was effectively reducing my tax bill as I was saving 9%  NI on the £120. Stopped when she got promotion  at work which meant the wage I paid her would be taxed at 40%.
Title: Re: Your partner.
Post by: The Jester of Wibbly on September 02, 2018, 04:04:52 pm
Your wife already owns 50% of everything you have  ;D
Title: Re: Your partner.
Post by: John Mart on September 02, 2018, 04:51:38 pm
Your wife already owns 50% of everything you have  ;D
My accountant actually cautioned me against the 50%.
Title: Re: Your partner.
Post by: Soupy on September 02, 2018, 04:55:28 pm
Your wife already owns 50% of everything you have  ;D
My accountant actually cautioned me against the 50%.

Not something that you want to think about but it's better if dissolving your marriage doesn't lead to dissolving your business.
Title: Re: Your partner.
Post by: Go on September 02, 2018, 05:17:23 pm
50% share. She’s the MD!
Far more ruthless than me.
Title: Re: Your partner.
Post by: Shrek on September 02, 2018, 05:17:43 pm
I pay my Mrs a small wage per week for water filtration duties, txt the night before duties, administration duties, filling the van up at night duties, estimates of jobs duties , cleaning my work gear & cloths duties.
It’s not 50% though , probably should be though
Title: Re: Your partner.
Post by: John Mart on September 02, 2018, 05:18:09 pm
Your wife already owns 50% of everything you have  ;D
My accountant actually cautioned me against the 50%.

Not something that you want to think about but it's better if dissolving your marriage doesn't lead to dissolving your business.
That obviously was his point. Things could certainly get very sticky. But not in a good way.  ;D
Title: Re: Your partner.
Post by: Stoots on September 02, 2018, 07:20:01 pm
No chance

My business is 100% mine, built by me alone....and if we ever get married i will look to protect it legally...

Ive already been left with naff all after a previous breakup, promised myself never again.

 
Title: Re: Your partner.
Post by: james peters on September 02, 2018, 08:01:22 pm
only lived with my partner for a year. her money is hers , and mine is mine
although we live in my house , and its my mortgage …
she earns the same or just under what I get , so tbh , we have a good life style .
Title: Re: Your partner.
Post by: Smudger on September 02, 2018, 11:03:10 pm
Before ltd we were a partnership but now I’m sole director

She is paid 12k per year wages but everything is hers so she tells me😵

50/50 is bad idea 51/49 so there is an overall control

Darran
Title: Re: Your partner.
Post by: John Mart on September 03, 2018, 06:09:04 am
Before ltd we were a partnership but now I’m sole director

She is paid 12k per year wages but everything is hers so she tells me😵

50/50 is bad idea 51/49 so there is an overall control

Darran
I take your point but 50:50 works for us. I make most decisions. Does Mrs Smudger not have shares?
Title: Re: Your partner.
Post by: Soupy on September 03, 2018, 06:10:58 am
Before ltd we were a partnership but now I’m sole director

She is paid 12k per year wages but everything is hers so she tells me😵

50/50 is bad idea 51/49 so there is an overall control

Darran
I take your point but 50:50 works for us. I make most decisions. Does Mrs Smudger not have shares?

That's totally fine until it isn't.
Title: Re: Your partner.
Post by: John Mart on September 03, 2018, 06:15:21 am
Before ltd we were a partnership but now I’m sole director

She is paid 12k per year wages but everything is hers so she tells me😵

50/50 is bad idea 51/49 so there is an overall control

Darran
I take your point but 50:50 works for us. I make most decisions. Does Mrs Smudger not have shares?

That's totally fine until it isn't.
I get that too! But we’ve been together for 35 years so I reckon we’re good. If you knew me you’d understand that she’d never leave me and I’m not sure I’d survive long on my own. 
Title: Re: Your partner.
Post by: Soupy on September 03, 2018, 06:17:01 am
Before ltd we were a partnership but now I’m sole director

She is paid 12k per year wages but everything is hers so she tells me😵

50/50 is bad idea 51/49 so there is an overall control

Darran
I take your point but 50:50 works for us. I make most decisions. Does Mrs Smudger not have shares?

That's totally fine until it isn't.
I get that too! But we’ve been together for 35 years so I reckon we’re good. If you knew me you’d understand that she’d never leave me and I’m not sure I’d survive long on my own.

Maybe it's her that needs 51%?
Title: Re: Your partner.
Post by: Kev Martin on September 03, 2018, 07:32:41 am
I  run my business day to day with more and more input and help from my Son as I head towards retirement but often if I reach a sticky wicket, need a sounding board or just some female intuition or input much to his surprise I regularly consult my wife.  I am often amazed when she throws a whole different perspective on a particular problem which is often an angle I have never thought about or even considered.  They often say two heads are better than one, but the difference for me is that my wife is a partner I can trust, who has an investment in our business and owns exactly the same % as me.  Therefore  no competition in my mind, if it were a choice between her or a Board of Directors she wins every time.
Title: Re: Your partner.
Post by: Slacky on September 03, 2018, 10:51:50 am
Intuition.
Title: Re: Your partner.
Post by: dazmond on September 03, 2018, 02:01:29 pm
No chance

My business is 100% mine, built by me alone....and if we ever get married i will look to protect it legally...

Ive already been left with naff all after a previous breakup, promised myself never again.

dont ever get married mate.......you ll probably regret it big time.....loads of my mates have been married and divorced over the years......so glad ive never been married..... 8)
Title: Re: Your partner.
Post by: dazmond on September 03, 2018, 02:02:49 pm
never trust anyone with your business/money either...not even your partner/wife......
Title: Re: Your partner.
Post by: John Mart on September 03, 2018, 02:05:07 pm
No chance

My business is 100% mine, built by me alone....and if we ever get married i will look to protect it legally...

Ive already been left with naff all after a previous breakup, promised myself never again.

dont ever get married mate.......you ll probably regret it big time.....loads of my mates have been married and divorced over the years......so glad ive never been married..... 8)
It's a right crash zone around you. Employees and wives crap.
Title: Re: Your partner.
Post by: dazmond on September 03, 2018, 02:06:21 pm
No chance

My business is 100% mine, built by me alone....and if we ever get married i will look to protect it legally...

Ive already been left with naff all after a previous breakup, promised myself never again.

dont ever get married mate.......you ll probably regret it big time.....loads of my mates have been married and divorced over the years......so glad ive never been married..... 8)
It's a right crash zone around you. Employees and wives crap.

just trying to save someone a load of hassle mate..... ;) ;D
Title: Re: Your partner.
Post by: Go on September 03, 2018, 03:35:12 pm
never trust anyone with your business/money either...not even your partner/wife......

What a depressing outlook.
Title: Re: Your partner.
Post by: Kev Martin on September 03, 2018, 04:15:25 pm
No chance

My business is 100% mine, built by me alone....and if we ever get married i will look to protect it legally...

Ive already been left with naff all after a previous breakup, promised myself never again.

dont ever get married mate.......you ll probably regret it big time.....loads of my mates have been married and divorced over the years......so glad ive never been married..... 8)

I have watched loads of my mates split or get divorced and none of them seem happy.  I have been married for over 41 years and known her for over 43 years and it was the best thing I did IMHO :D
Title: Re: Your partner.
Post by: Kev Martin on September 03, 2018, 04:16:51 pm
No chance

My business is 100% mine, built by me alone....and if we ever get married i will look to protect it legally...

Ive already been left with naff all after a previous breakup, promised myself never again.

dont ever get married mate.......you ll probably regret it big time.....loads of my mates have been married and divorced over the years......so glad ive never been married..... 8)
It's a right crash zone around you. Employees and wives crap.

just trying to save someone a load of hassle mate..... ;) ;D

Or if you kook at it another way you could be denying them eternal happiness!
Title: Re: Your partner.
Post by: Kev Martin on September 03, 2018, 04:17:27 pm
never trust anyone with your business/money either...not even your partner/wife......

What a depressing outlook.

Couldn't agree more
Title: Re: Your partner.
Post by: Slacky on September 03, 2018, 04:28:33 pm
never trust anyone with your business/money either...not even your partner/wife......

What a depressing outlook.

Couldn't agree more

Yup, what a lonely existence.
Title: Re: Your partner.
Post by: dazmond on September 03, 2018, 04:44:24 pm
never trust anyone with your business/money either...not even your partner/wife......

What a depressing outlook.

just being realistic mate( from my experience and others).......saves any arguments over money if you keep your money separate from your wifes/girlfriends.....
Title: Re: Your partner.
Post by: dazmond on September 03, 2018, 04:46:03 pm
never trust anyone with your business/money either...not even your partner/wife......

What a depressing outlook.

Couldn't agree more

Yup, what a lonely existence.

thats where your wrong matt.....still got a girlfriend... :)....off on holiday with her in a few days.... 8)
Title: Re: Your partner.
Post by: dazmond on September 03, 2018, 04:48:33 pm
No chance

My business is 100% mine, built by me alone....and if we ever get married i will look to protect it legally...

Ive already been left with naff all after a previous breakup, promised myself never again.

dont ever get married mate.......you ll probably regret it big time.....loads of my mates have been married and divorced over the years......so glad ive never been married..... 8)

I have watched loads of my mates split or get divorced and none of them seem happy.  I have been married for over 41 years and known her for over 43 years and it was the best thing I did IMHO :D

good for you but for the vast majority it all ends in tears within a few years.... ;D
Title: Re: Your partner.
Post by: Slacky on September 03, 2018, 05:53:44 pm
never trust anyone with your business/money either...not even your partner/wife......

What a depressing outlook.

Couldn't agree more

Yup, what a lonely existence.

thats where your wrong matt.....still got a girlfriend... :)....off on holiday with her in a few days.... 8)

You miss my point Daz...
Title: Re: Your partner.
Post by: Dry Clean on September 03, 2018, 06:10:13 pm
never trust anyone with your business/money either...not even your partner/wife......

What a depressing outlook.

just being realistic mate( from my experience and others).......saves any arguments over money if you keep your money separate from your wifes/girlfriends.....

You tell them Scrooge. lol
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1535994562_Scrooge.jpg)
Title: Re: Your partner.
Post by: AuRavelling79 on September 03, 2018, 07:28:24 pm
"thats where your wrong matt.....still got a girlfriend... :)....off on holiday with her in a few days.... 8)"

You have a girlfriend Daz? Off on holiday?

Not like you.

 ;D
Title: Re: Your partner.
Post by: Stoots on September 03, 2018, 08:05:05 pm
never trust anyone with your business/money either...not even your partner/wife......

What a depressing outlook.

just being realistic mate( from my experience and others).......saves any arguments over money if you keep your money separate from your wifes/girlfriends.....

Absoloutely.

Its like not having car insurance and hoping you will never have an accident, a high percentage of marriages end in divorce, we all think it will never happen to us, our relationship is unbreakable etc etc...

Ok...just wait till the lying cheating bitch  buggers off with someone else and takes you for everything you own....

might change your tune  ;D

Title: Re: Your partner.
Post by: The Jester of Wibbly on September 04, 2018, 09:37:23 pm
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1536093422_FB_IMG_1536093301978.jpg)
Title: Re: Your partner.
Post by: Missing Link on September 04, 2018, 09:57:15 pm
Ok...just wait till the lying cheating bitch  buggers off with someone else and takes you for everything you own....

Relationships only break up for one of two reasons:

1.  Too much drink involved.
2.  It's not big enough.

You don't strike me as a drinker, Gomo.
Title: Re: Your partner.
Post by: Jonny 87 on September 05, 2018, 08:05:13 am
The problem people seem have is is rushing into things too quickly, or marrying out of necessity (oops where gonna have a kid let’s get married).

If you choose right, then it’s something you’ll never regret. Make the choice to marry your best friend and you’ll never go wrong.

Me and Dave are as happy as Larry.

Larry and George are miserable too.
Title: Re: Your partner.
Post by: dazmond on September 05, 2018, 08:58:24 am
a few of my customers sons are living back at home in their late thirties/forties after splitting up from their wifes......sod that....never ever get married is my motto......its a mugs game...... :D
Title: Re: Your partner.
Post by: Steven Biggs on September 06, 2018, 05:49:14 am
Just heard . Dazmond has proposed to his girlfriend while on holiday in his 3 1/2 star hotel . Everyone on clean it up is invited to the evening lash up . Free bar as well . Just hope it's not in Salford . Congrats daz .  ;D
Title: Re: Your partner.
Post by: nathankaye on September 06, 2018, 02:31:29 pm
I married when I was young at 22 and 12 yrs later she did dirty. We were great together to begin with etc etc but she was younger than me at 19. We were both finding our feet and kids came along so we were soon mum n dad and lost the husband n wife part  (no not in closeness/physically but in the sense of not buying loads of time out for us, as our times were family time) .   I personally think being too young and starting families (planned or unplanned) can cause much heart ache n breakups.
Several yrs later I'm back to being married with kids again and it's great, stressful at times and worrying with kids but great. First experience makes you stronger and later in life you know more about yourself and what you want/likes are. But if you wait too long you will miss out on great partnerships and the joy of parenting.

My Mrs just helps by kicking me out the door to get some work done  ;D ;D and sorts my accounts
Title: Re: Your partner.
Post by: paul alan on September 06, 2018, 02:39:44 pm
a few of my customers sons are living back at home in their late thirties/forties after splitting up from their wifes......sod that....never ever get married is my motto......its a mugs game...... :D

You shouldn't of said that on here daz, you have just sealed your married fate!

Whatever you say you wont do/dont need you end up getting/doing.
Title: Re: Your partner.
Post by: Soupy on September 06, 2018, 02:51:23 pm
a few of my customers sons are living back at home in their late thirties/forties after splitting up from their wifes......sod that....never ever get married is my motto......its a mugs game...... :D

You shouldn't of said that on here daz, you have just sealed your married fate!

Whatever you say you wont do/dont need you end up getting/doing.

I give him till Christmas.
Title: Re: Your partner.
Post by: Marc Stock on September 06, 2018, 08:37:34 pm
I have to say, being a divorcee myself i wondered if getting married again was a particulary smart thing to do.

Turns out that if you find the right woman; you can really dig down and get motivated in life.

Wifey mk2 is fantastic; and we have two children and i wouldnt have it any other way now.

She even buys me motorbike mags; and encouraged me to get into biking even though she herself is not particulary keen on the idea.

Shes a good woman.
Title: Re: Your partner.
Post by: dazmond on September 06, 2018, 09:44:33 pm
I have to say, being a divorcee myself i wondered if getting married again was a particulary smart thing to do.

Turns out that if you find the right woman; you can really dig down and get motivated in life.

Wifey mk2 is fantastic; and we have two children and i wouldnt have it any other way now.

She even buys me motorbike mags; and encouraged me to get into biking even though she herself is not particulary keen on the idea.

Shes a good woman.

some of us are not the marrying type marc.ive never wanted kids either.ive  been a womaniser all my life...a leopard never changes its spots...... ;D

i have strong self motivation naturally......i dont need a woman to boost it...... ;)
Title: Re: Your partner.
Post by: Kev Martin on September 07, 2018, 03:59:51 am
I have to say, being a divorcee myself i wondered if getting married again was a particulary smart thing to do.

Turns out that if you find the right woman; you can really dig down and get motivated in life.

Wifey mk2 is fantastic; and we have two children and i wouldnt have it any other way now.

She even buys me motorbike mags; and encouraged me to get into biking even though she herself is not particulary keen on the idea.

Shes a good woman.

some of us are not the marrying type marc.ive never wanted kids either.ive  been a womaniser all my life...a leopard never changes its spots...... ;D

i have strong self motivation naturally......i dont need a woman to boost it...... ;)

There you go then!  Now you know the real problem in that any relationship married or just long term partners requires give and take from both sides. ;D
Title: Re: Your partner.
Post by: Steven Biggs on September 07, 2018, 10:22:16 am
Just got my invite for dazmondos wedding . It’s the cafe in Salford job centre . But it’s got air con , heated seats , all cold drinks will now be served hot . Can’t wait . Just binned the wedding list tho . Extreme 47 don’t think so .  ;D
Title: Re: Your partner.
Post by: Dave Willis on September 07, 2018, 11:31:44 am
Five star wedding apparently, the bride will be arriving in a Golf GTD, the lovely couple are leaving in a hot Connect. Dress for the occasion will be black leather bomber jackets. The meal will be live yogurt and blueberries with a handfull of Grenola chucked on. Honeymoon yet to be announced but will involve some Extreme action no doubt. The whole ceremony will be paid by credit card .............. oh hang on, Daz has changed his mind again!
Title: Re: Your partner.
Post by: John Mart on September 07, 2018, 02:02:50 pm
Five star wedding apparently, the bride will be arriving in a Golf GTD, the lovely couple are leaving in a hot Connect. Dress for the occasion will be black leather bomber jackets. The meal will be live yogurt and blueberries with a handfull of Grenola chucked on. Honeymoon yet to be announced but will involve some Extreme action no doubt. The whole ceremony will be paid by credit card .............. oh hang on, Daz has changed his mind again!
;D ;D ;D ;D