Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Crystal-clear on August 03, 2018, 09:51:56 pm
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ive seen them at 2013 2014 low milages clean and tidy bloody 4k private when i say low milage im talking sub 50k with a 1k payload thats more then my 230 connect i see it has a 1.2 16v but with that payload it will be able to take a 500l system
talk to me ??? whats the catch do they blow up often have you got one?? or had dealings with any?
a new shape connect on that plate and milage were talking double the price..
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ive seen them at 2013 2014 low milages clean and tidy bloody 4k private when i say low milage im talking sub 50k with a 1k payload thats more then my 230 connect i see it has a 1.2 16v but with that payload it will be able to take a 500l system
talk to me ??? whats the catch do they blow up often have you got one?? or had dealings with any?
a new shape connect on that plate and milage were talking double the price..
Is it Scrimble on here that raves about them. New Peugeot Experts are great value too.
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ive seen them at 2013 2014 low milages clean and tidy bloody 4k private when i say low milage im talking sub 50k with a 1k payload thats more then my 230 connect i see it has a 1.2 16v but with that payload it will be able to take a 500l system
talk to me ??? whats the catch do they blow up often have you got one?? or had dealings with any?
a new shape connect on that plate and milage were talking double the price..
Is it Scrimble on here that raves about them. New Peugeot Experts are great value too.
i just cant stop looking for problems tho when i see something this price you know what they say if its too good to be true...
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ive seen them at 2013 2014 low milages clean and tidy bloody 4k private when i say low milage im talking sub 50k with a 1k payload thats more then my 230 connect i see it has a 1.2 16v but with that payload it will be able to take a 500l system
talk to me ??? whats the catch do they blow up often have you got one?? or had dealings with any?
a new shape connect on that plate and milage were talking double the price..
Is it Scrimble on here that raves about them. New Peugeot Experts are great value too.
i just cant stop looking for problems tho when i see something this price you know what they say if its too good to be true...
Well he thinks they’re amazing. The problem with them is that they are Fiats.
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Because its a Fiat and Fiat haven't the same perception of quality a Ford has.
And yes, the perception of quality dictates price. The reason why a Mercedes Benz badge on a Renault Kangoo commands more money. Badge appeal sells. Buying a Mercedes Benz has become very popular among companies that want to convey a more upmarket image than those who tool around in Renault Kangoos.
In my motor trade days I worked for Citroen. In those days Citroen, Peugeot and Fiat shared rebadged variants of the same vehicle.
They were exactly the same vehicle but with slight cosmetic and badge differences. They were built in the same factory on the same production line by the same assemblers. But the public saw Fiat as the lowest quality and Peugeot as the highest. Fiat used the identical diesel engine (JTD) that Citroen/Peugeot used (Hdi). Even although it was the identical engine, the Fiat engine returned a better MPG and was marketed as a better engine with multi point injection. But the reason why the Fiat did better was that the Italians were allowed to do fuel economy tests in an enclosed, temperature controlled environment on a rolling road. Peugeot and Citroen were governed by French rules and had to do a fuel consumption test on an open road, both ways. The return had to be within 15 minutes of the outward test.
When the first Ford Connects stated to be sold in the UK in 2003 the public saw it as a superior van to the Citroen Berlingo/Peugeot Partner. But just because Ford marketed it as better didn't mean to say it was. Most of those Connects have gone due to rot where the galvanised 'chassis' and floor pan still show no signs of rust on the Berlingos. Ford also tried to market the 1.8 Tdci engine as better than the Hdi even although they were the identical engine made in the same factory.
Ford struggled with the Tddi and desperately promoted it as an engine that would never smoke. Unfortunately it also back fired because the Tdci did smoke under heavy acceleration and high engine revs the same as the Hdi engine did.
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I had the previous shape model, it was a fantastic van! 100% reliable and drove like a dream- I would have another fiat anyday!!
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i got a new one in Feb this year and can't fault it, comfy to drive and handles very well, quite cab, and easily handles a 500lt tank.
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i got a new one in Feb this year and can't fault it, comfy to drive and handles very well, quite cab, and easily handles a 500lt tank.
Fiat is a far cry from what it was a few years ago. It will still take time for their tarnished image to be replaced with a better one provided the country's current politics doesn't take industry back into that past era. The other thing is what happens now with the death of Sergio Marchionne who was credited with the revival of Fiat mainly due to the introduction of the new Fiat 500 that saved the company from bankruptcy.
"He introduced new production processes across Fiat factories in Italy. A car plant in Pomigliano d’Arco, once rife with inefficiency and absenteeism, is now considered among the world’s best-run. Marchionne wasn’t always a hero to everybody in the Italian business community. He had to take Fiat out of Confindustria — the country’s entrepreneurs association — so that he could make the changes to employment contracts that let him boost productivity at Fiat’s Italian plants. Such moves are always unpopular" with the masses and labour supported political parties.
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-07-30/marchionne-s-blueprint-for-saving-italy
Fiat in the mid 2000's reflected the British Leyland factory in Conventry years before and we know the result of what happened to that.
At one time you wouldn't want to be seen dead in a Skoda, but that has changed with VW's buy out years ago. How's it going with Lada? ;D
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Is it Scrimble on here that raves about them. New Peugeot Experts are great value too.
Yes I have 4 soon to be 5, don't get one though I don't want you copying me,
you would be better off renting a tranny van for 20k+ instead of buying a Doblo for 11-12k brand new
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Is it Scrimble on here that raves about them. New Peugeot Experts are great value too.
Yes I have 4 soon to be 5, don't get one though I don't want you copying me,
you would be better off renting a tranny van for 20k+ instead of buying a Doblo for 11-12k brand new
Look good. Nice and understated. No phone number?
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Is it Scrimble on here that raves about them. New Peugeot Experts are great value too.
Yes I have 4 soon to be 5, don't get one though I don't want you copying me,
you would be better off renting a tranny van for 20k+ instead of buying a Doblo for 11-12k brand new
Lol says it all :)
Well done
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Is it Scrimble on here that raves about them. New Peugeot Experts are great value too.
Yes I have 4 soon to be 5, don't get one though I don't want you copying me,
you would be better off renting a tranny van for 20k+ instead of buying a Doblo for 11-12k brand new
Look good. Nice and understated. No phone number?
Thanks, I only wanted the sign writing on the van so that a customer knows who it is that has just pulled up on there driveway, no need for a telephone number
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Is it Scrimble on here that raves about them. New Peugeot Experts are great value too.
Yes I have 4 soon to be 5, don't get one though I don't want you copying me,
you would be better off renting a tranny van for 20k+ instead of buying a Doblo for 11-12k brand new
Look good. Nice and understated. No phone number?
Thanks, I only wanted the sign writing on the van so that a customer knows who it is that has just pulled up on there driveway, no need for a telephone number
I worked out of a Ranger for a while and you’re right, it feels much better when you have a sign written vehicle.
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Just to add an Citroen Dispatch/Peugeot Expert can be had for £15k plus the VAT so £3k difference. If you’re clearing gutters too you’d need the extra space I’d think.
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I clear gutters too, everything I need fits in the doblo,
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I clear gutters too, everything I need fits in the doblo,
Where do you find the new for £11-12! that is very cheap and by the way which model of you go for is there a long wheelbase model that has 1 ton that is the one isn't it ?
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I clear gutters too, everything I need fits in the doblo,
Where do you find the new for £11-12! that is very cheap and by the way which model of you go for is there a long wheelbase model that has 1 ton that is the one isn't it ?
That’ll be ex VAT.
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New dispatch 2.0hdi £14,301 + VAT Bristol Street Motors
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I clear gutters too, everything I need fits in the doblo,
Where do you find the new for £11-12! that is very cheap and by the way which model of you go for is there a long wheelbase model that has 1 ton that is the one isn't it ?
i got mine from here https://www.pentagon-group.co.uk/fiat/new-vans/doblo-cargo-maxi/tecnico they've gone up a little bit in price since i got mine but they were the cheapest by about £500 at the time. i paid 10,495 plus vat for the lwb tecnico version.
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I'd rather pay a bit extra and get a better van with air con,heated seats,etc.....the fiat poverty spec vans with ultra small engines couldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding with a full 500L in the back.... ;D
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I'd rather pay a bit extra and get a better van with air con,heated seats,etc.....the fiat poverty spec vans with ultra small engines couldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding with a full 500L in the back.... ;D
Actually I found some 2018 models for £10,000 plus VAT with air conditioning that's a key Factor considering this summer also is not a little bit more it's quite a lot more mate the Ford Connect 240 is a good £20,000 the same ratio on a 2013 plate Fiat 4K for the Fiat and 8 k for the connect.
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I'd rather pay a bit extra and get a better van with air con,heated seats,etc.....the fiat poverty spec vans with ultra small engines couldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding with a full 500L in the back.... ;D
That's where you're wrong daz. My 1250 TD multijet engine blew the pants off my 1.9d kangoo engine. Those multijet engines are fantastic!!
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I'd rather pay a bit extra and get a better van with air con,heated seats,etc.....the fiat poverty spec vans with ultra small engines couldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding with a full 500L in the back.... ;D
That's where you're wrong daz. My 1250 TD multijet engine blew the pants off my 1.9d kangoo engine. Those multijet engines are fantastic!!
Can you tell us which is the model to go for with air conditioning and high payload there so many multijet this multijet that 16 valve 1.3 1.4 1.9 :D
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I'd rather pay a bit extra and get a better van with air con,heated seats,etc.....the fiat poverty spec vans with ultra small engines couldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding with a full 500L in the back.... ;D
My doblos all have air con sat nav air con reverse park sensors electric windows Bluetooth etc I have one which is 2.0 turbo with 180 bhp which pulls like a train
And 8 weekly yes plus vat it’s a commercial vehicle,
Crystal clear go onto the fiat professional website and download the brochure, the best model is the doblo maxi technio which is lwb with1.6 105bhp 6 speed air con sat nav reverse park sensors cruise control air con Bluetooth electric windows mirrors etc
I just found a van on Auto Trader 11k brand new, get the money and go and buy it you won’t regret it
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201807318999992
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To be fair that looks a good deal scrimble..... :)
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I'd rather pay a bit extra and get a better van with air con,heated seats,etc.....the fiat poverty spec vans with ultra small engines couldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding with a full 500L in the back.... ;D
My doblos all have air con sat nav air con reverse park sensors electric windows Bluetooth etc I have one which is 2.0 turbo with 180 bhp which pulls like a train
And 8 weekly yes plus vat it’s a commercial vehicle,
Crystal clear go onto the fiat professional website and download the brochure, the best model is the doblo maxi technio which is lwb with1.6 105bhp 6 speed air con sat nav reverse park sensors cruise control air con Bluetooth electric windows mirrors etc
I just found a van on Auto Trader 11k brand new, get the money and go and buy it you won’t regret it
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201807318999992
mate the 1.3s are always SW's? which ones do you get usually for the money and the payload? i think the 1.3s have 900kg and the lwbs that do have a price difference have more room ofcourse and payload
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the maxi is 1000kg payload
the normal swb is 750kg payload,
I always buy the maxigo onto the Fiat professional website and download the brochure
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My 1.3 (736kg payload) bought new in 2006 is still going strong. It has had me one up 400L. Me and Dan the Man 2 up with 400L and a trailer with 200L for six months till I bought a new van. We kept it.
Now Dan the Man is on his own and running it for the last 4 years with a 400L. He was thinking of upgrading but like he says it's runnnng fine and so he saves a few hundred a month towards the new one.
Engines
1.3 is fine for one man and a 400/500 (new shape 750kg) NO CAM BELT it's a chain.
1.6 has the worst reputation of the three. Less well proven and reputed oil feed problems if not religious about oil and filter changes. May be OK now. Dunno. CAMBELT
2.0 is the JTD /HDi we all know and love from Peugeot and Citroen engines. Better if 1000kg payload.
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My 1.3 (736kg payload) bought new in 2006 is still going strong. It has had me one up 400L. Me and Dan the Man 2 up with 400L and a trailer with 200L for six months till I bought a new van. We kept it.
Now Dan the Man is on his own and running it for the last 4 years with a 400L. He was thinking of upgrading but like he says it's runnnng fine and so he saves a few hundred a month towards the new one.
Engines
1.3 is fine for one man and a 400/500 (new shape 750kg) NO CAM BELT it's a chain.
1.6 has the worst reputation of the three. Less well proven and reputed oil feed problems if not religious about oil and filter changes. May be OK now. Dunno. CAMBELT
2.0 is the JTD /HDi we all know and love from Peugeot and Citroen engines. Better if 1000kg payload.
the 1.6 is not the same as the citreon peugeot, it is a FPT (Fiat Alfa Lancia) engine. it is basically a downsized 1.9 found in the older Doblo's and many other Alfas and Fiat. the new 120bhp 1.6 replaces the old 2.0
the 2.0 16v multijet is no longer avalible as it is only euro 5, it is a gm based engine not Citreon Peugeot so get yours facts right, I have a Doblo with this engine, very rare there are not many about and power wise defo the best.
the 1.3 now has 95bhp so more power than the old earlier Doblos, most swb Doblos have the 1.3
whichever engine you get it doesn't really matter they are all good, buy new if you can or get one which has been well looked after which is rare with commercial vehicles
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not bad price here for the lwb 1.6 tecnico http://www.plattsvancentre.com/fiat-professional-new-doblo-cargo-vans.php?id=1034&NewDobloMAXICargoVan&stocklist=4&bodytype=L2H1.
That price may include metallic paint so you could possibly take another £300 off that price if you went for the basic white one, if not its still a good price and i doubt it will be a pre registered one so you will get the full 3 year warranty.
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Thank you Scrimble - I was really talking about the older ones and the first of the new shapes.
My point being is that they are very good vans.