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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: joe34 on July 15, 2018, 07:49:48 pm
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Hi I've been cleaning conservatories for a good few years but always from a pole I'm thinking about getting a conservatory ladder does anybody out there use them if so are they worth the money? and what's a good make? thanks in advance Joe
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I've tried one and tbh I wouldn't bother, wfp is far quicker even from a ladder.
Of course if you are looking to restore all the plastics by hand and up sell it like a Thomas Sanderson clean then go ahead.
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Unless you specialise in conservatory roof cleaning and charge a lot for them then I don't see the point.i pole some from a normal ladder sometimes but usually don't need them.....
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We have a couple of sets and usually only bust them out for £200+ jobs.
I can compete with TS cleans as I have managed to win over a few customers who have used them in the past.
MY personal preference is the LSD ones but if you have a tall conservatory then you can't beat easi dec ones.
My advice is wait for a second hand set to come up :)
You can hire from i believe HSS hire.....
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People charge £300+ for conservatory cleans, and they get it too! Sandersons even more than that. Its a good high profile high value business in the summer if you can do the marketing BS.
Conservatory ladders make cleaning a lot quicker because its hands on rather than scrubbing with a pole.
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People charge £300+ for conservatory cleans, and they get it too! Sandersons even more than that. Its a good high profile high value business in the summer if you can do the marketing BS.
Conservatory ladders make cleaning a lot quicker because its hands on rather than scrubbing with a pole.
We tell potential customers to get a quote from Thomas Sanderson then phone us and we will do the same standard of work for half the price we pick up quite a few like this they think that it’s a bargain after being quoted at least 1k by ts 😂😂😂
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I've got a customer with a "self cleaning glass roof" conservatory which is probably 15' x 20' in size.
They've asked me a couple of times over the years to clean it but I've refused as one side slopes towards the bungalow roof and I would have to get up on the roof and it would be a complete ball ache.
The other month they told me they had contacted Thomas Sanderson for a quote.
Without even looking at it TS quoted them £1200!
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ive got 2 conny roofs to clean this afternoon for existing customers.one is a very small self cleaning glass one which i can reach from the ground and the other is a polycarbon pitched roof with a flat roof right next to it i can stand on so its ideal for cleaning...
ill use a virosol mix in my back pack and then scrub and rinse with very hot pure.....first one is a 30 min job and the second one is a 60 min job(including the windows too)
first roof £30
second roof £60
hardly in thomas sanderson territory! ;D
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I've got a customer with a "self cleaning glass roof" conservatory which is probably 15' x 20' in size.
They've asked me a couple of times over the years to clean it but I've refused as one side slopes towards the bungalow roof and I would have to get up on the roof and it would be a complete ball ache.
The other month they told me they had contacted Thomas Sanderson for a quote.
Without even looking at it TS quoted them £1200!
i refuse these now too mate...PITA.....you can pole some from a ladder but its awkward! ::)roll
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Self cleaning glass is a pig to clean, that's one situation where I would use a Conny ladder, charge a really good whack and trad it.
Most of us do a perfectly acceptable job with wfp and a ladder if needed.
Plastic roofs don't take any time at all, could clean half a roof by the time you've positioned a Conny ladder.
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Self cleaning glass is a pig to clean, that's one situation where I would use a Conny ladder, charge a really good whack and trad it.
Most of us do a perfectly acceptable job with wfp and a ladder if needed.
Plastic roofs don't take any time at all, could clean half a roof by the time you've positioned a Conny ladder.
Why are self cleaning roofs a pig glass clean ?. We do loads every year no difference between cleaning that and a normal glass roof , what issues do you have with them ?
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i cleaned a self cleaning glass roof in 30 mins today...no problem...i wouldnt trad one off a ladder! :o ;D
very hot water and virosol........came up great....
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Self cleaning glass is a pig to clean, that's one situation where I would use a Conny ladder, charge a really good whack and trad it.
Most of us do a perfectly acceptable job with wfp and a ladder if needed.
Plastic roofs don't take any time at all, could clean half a roof by the time you've positioned a Conny ladder.
Why are self cleaning roofs a pig glass clean ?. We do loads every year no difference between cleaning that and a normal glass roof , what issues do you have with them ?
They never look clean.
Glass roofs in general are a pig, baked on dirt that's difficult to get any pressure on from the ground. You can rinse forever and bits still come out of the seals at the side.
I do one monthly (self cleaning) it never looks clean.
Plastic easy, glass = pigs
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Self cleaning glass is a pig to clean, that's one situation where I would use a Conny ladder, charge a really good whack and trad it.
Most of us do a perfectly acceptable job with wfp and a ladder if needed.
Plastic roofs don't take any time at all, could clean half a roof by the time you've positioned a Conny ladder.
Why are self cleaning roofs a pig glass clean ?. We do loads every year no difference between cleaning that and a normal glass roof , what issues do you have with them ?
They never look clean.
Glass roofs in general are a pig, baked on dirt that's difficult to get any pressure on from the ground. You can rinse forever and bits still come out of the seals at the side.
I do one monthly (self cleaning) it never looks clean.
Plastic easy, glass = pigs
Self cleaning glass by it’s very name is dirt repellant the dirt is easier to get off than on normal glass , personally think self cleaning glass is a con as it doesn’t clean its self at all just a sales gimmick I do agree it’s sometimes easier to be higher than the roof to apply a bit of pressure we use hot water and if needed virosol generaly comes up fine I think what you are seeing is the film on the surface that is semi opaque but Ime sure it is clean just looks a bit of a matt finish , with regards to bits on the roof give it a good blast with the garden hose in all the nooks and crannies and then finish off with pure that’s how we do it , I assume you are using ro not Di ? As quite often glass cleaned with Di will not look shiny like it does when it’s done with ro water
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Self cleaning glass is a pig to clean, that's one situation where I would use a Conny ladder, charge a really good whack and trad it.
Most of us do a perfectly acceptable job with wfp and a ladder if needed.
Plastic roofs don't take any time at all, could clean half a roof by the time you've positioned a Conny ladder.
Why are self cleaning roofs a pig glass clean ?. We do loads every year no difference between cleaning that and a normal glass roof , what issues do you have with them ?
They never look clean.
Glass roofs in general are a pig, baked on dirt that's difficult to get any pressure on from the ground. You can rinse forever and bits still come out of the seals at the side.
I do one monthly (self cleaning) it never looks clean.
Plastic easy, glass = pigs
I get on a ladder to do it. I don't get those that do them from the ground. It's never a good job up close.
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Self cleaning glass is a pig to clean, that's one situation where I would use a Conny ladder, charge a really good whack and trad it.
Most of us do a perfectly acceptable job with wfp and a ladder if needed.
Plastic roofs don't take any time at all, could clean half a roof by the time you've positioned a Conny ladder.
Why are self cleaning roofs a pig glass clean ?. We do loads every year no difference between cleaning that and a normal glass roof , what issues do you have with them ?
They never look clean.
Glass roofs in general are a pig, baked on dirt that's difficult to get any pressure on from the ground. You can rinse forever and bits still come out of the seals at the side.
I do one monthly (self cleaning) it never looks clean.
Plastic easy, glass = pigs
Self cleaning glass by it’s very name is dirt repellant the dirt is easier to get off than on normal glass , personally think self cleaning glass is a con as it doesn’t clean its self at all just a sales gimmick I do agree it’s sometimes easier to be higher than the roof to apply a bit of pressure we use hot water and if needed virosol generaly comes up fine I think what you are seeing is the film on the surface that is semi opaque but Ime sure it is clean just looks a bit of a matt finish , with regards to bits on the roof give it a good blast with the garden hose in all the nooks and crannies and then finish off with pure that’s how we do it , I assume you are using ro not Di ? As quite often glass cleaned with Di will not look shiny like it does when it’s done with ro water
This is how I do it too - after years of just scrubbing with pure, I find it’s a lot quicker to get the hose pipe on it and give it a good blast all over, it not only loosens all the dirt but I’m near enough finished by the time I start scrubbing with pure
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Self cleaning glass is coated with something that feels a bit grainy to the touch. First problem is the grainy surface hold dirt in the 'pores' of the grain, only a tiny amount, but it never dries gleaming. As others have said, the coating is matt
Second problem is the danger of damaging the coating.
Self cleaning glass works best when it has a good drop angle, 30 degrees or more. Practically flat like a lot of conservatories and I think its worse than plain glass.
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Easi dec conservatory ladders are great and if you look about you can pick them up cheaper than the over inflated price up of some.
Like other tools use they can be a bit of a faff but set up right you can manage to get right up to finials and parts that can be hard to see or clean from the ground.
The point of the conservatory ladder is partly that you are working safely, as when you are working off a normal ladder you only have 2 points of contact and it is where accidents can happen.
Having said that a fair few can quite easily be done from the ground.
Steve
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You only have two points of contact working off a conservatory ladder as well unless you are using a harness and working restraint system
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Not if your cleaning by hand
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Not if your cleaning by hand
Working off any ladder unless you are using work restraint ppe you only have two points of contact that’s your feet , if using working restraint or fall arrest you then have three points of contact leaving you with two hands to work all this is very basic working at height training , weather you are using a normal ladder or conservatory ladder this doesn’t alter , problem is using the correct ppe is uncomfortable and restrictive in movement ,
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So holding on to the ladder is not a point of contact?
I am fully aware of h&s on ladder and full harness procedures.
I was a watch manager at a fire station for 20 plus years.
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So holding on to the ladder is not a point of contact?
I am fully aware of h&s on ladder and full harness procedures.
I was a watch manager at a fire station for 20 plus years.
Yes holding on is a point of contact but it’s very difficult to do that and work .
Which fire service were you at I’ve just left Cornwall fire and rescue service after 30 years service I was a watch manager too small world 😂😂
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It sure is.
Was in Essex fire and rescue.
You enjoying retirement? :)
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It sure is.
Was in Essex fire and rescue.
You enjoying retirement? :)
I miss the shouts as we were a very busy station , don’t miss the politics, and red tape , it’s nice to go to bed and not get hiked out of it 3 or 4 times a night 😂😂😂