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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: premier window cleaners on March 31, 2018, 07:06:57 pm
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Hi
Anyone used one of these? Are they any good with fanning technique?
At £139 seems fairly pricey
Thanks
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bit like marmite, you either love them or you hate them, i do like them but due to shoulder injury find they are slightly too heavy for me to be using them all the time
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Load of rubbish,
Basically all brushes do the same thing, I’ve been using xtreme brushes the last 2 years after using almost all the other ranges. There light, easy to use and clean well. I’ve never noticed much diffemrve between cleaning power in brushes.
A brush is a brush, and basically, they all work the same, no point spending £££ on a heavy brick that’s made for people who haven’t got anything better to do than try out the latest toy.
Stick to cheap gardiner brushes. You can’t go wrong!
;D
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Agree Zesty, there are a few on this forum who seem to be constantly fighting a losing battle to remove a months worth of dust
from a pane of glass.
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How much?
Please don't tell me anyone and paid £139 quid for a brush? A heavy one at that
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Load of rubbish,
Basically all brushes do the same thing, I’ve been using xtreme brushes the last 2 years after using almost all the other ranges. There light, easy to use and clean well. I’ve never noticed much diffemrve between cleaning power in brushes.
A brush is a brush, and basically, they all work the same, no point spending £££ on a heavy brick that’s made for people who haven’t got anything better to do than try out the latest toy.
Stick to cheap gardiner brushes. You can’t go wrong!
;D
Have you used the constructor brush?
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Hi
Anyone used one of these? Are they any good with fanning technique?
At £139 seems fairly pricey
Thanks
I am testing one out now.
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£139 for a piece of moulded plastic and some bristles is without doubt beyond the far side of pi55-take.
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I am testing one out now.
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While you at it could you give size and weight of the bush complete with everything on the brush??
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£139 for a piece of moulded plastic and some bristles is without doubt beyond the far side of pi55-take.
Its Aluminum i believe
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Oh well, in that case ....
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I am testing one out now.
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While you at it could you give size and weight of the bush complete with everything on the brush??
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Sure, I have a spare 18 inch Constructor brush with hydroblade in the garage, I can weigh it later for you and take a pic :)
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As with any tool... I think it is important to ask opinions of 'users' of the tool your interested in. A bonus too if the user is able to compare with other brushes.
I take opinions with a pinch of salt when tool opinions start with, " looks cheap......" or "looks heavy...." or "looks like it would break..." and more often than not is followed up with a discredit of some sort - not all but sometimes. The operative word is 'look' but never the word 'used'.
I would be more interested in those that have made a purchase and gave it a good go. I would weigh this up with how many 'got on with it' and 'how many did not'...... I would then ask 'could this make a difference to me or my work?' - Cost is the last thing I weigh up. The cost has to be relative to the answers I find.
You might want to include YouTube in your research too.
The Constructor brush comes with a 'Reach-iT' technique. Sadly, knowing this industry, a lot will be slow to understand this new way of thinking, in fact, a lot will dismiss.
I swapped out my Tucker brush for the Constructor brush with Hydroblade. At first, it is difficult to resist doing a final rinse and getting your head around the limited number of agitation passes you need to make. At first, it feels like you are patting your head and rubbing your stomach.
In the end, you will fly through your work. The stock shape with its unique corner jets and corner bristles, the blade bristles, canon diameter and distance apart from each other and positioning have been calibrated to work like a squeegee works. It's amazing stuff, and I am still testing it.
I tested it out on first cleans the other day to great success.
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Load of rubbish,
Basically all brushes do the same thing, I’ve been using xtreme brushes the last 2 years after using almost all the other ranges. There light, easy to use and clean well. I’ve never noticed much diffemrve between cleaning power in brushes.
A brush is a brush, and basically, they all work the same, no point spending £££ on a heavy brick that’s made for people who haven’t got anything better to do than try out the latest toy.
Stick to cheap gardiner brushes. You can’t go wrong!
;D
Gardiner brushes are great my lads are using them. But the Constructor brush with Hydro Blade is something totally different.
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I took these pictures back in 2016 of a Constructor brush Vs Gardiner sill brush in terms of weight.
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Hope this helps ^^^
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Hope this helps ^^^
What length were they please?? ;D
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My favourite brush is the constructor brush. The biggest time saving is on hydrophobic glass as it doesn't exist using a hydroblade on the brush. I can easily earn more using this brush. Bought my brushes on black friday week-end when they were cheapest. It makes a big difference what bristle set up you use. I prefer wide bristles top and bottom for reaching right in the corners, especially on the sills and soft medium length hogs hair for scrubbing power. Don't like industrial bristles as they are too stiff and the swift version is too soft , the outer bristles are too short. Don't like Reach-it's gooseneck even though it is good operational as it falls to bits in constant use so I modified Gardiner's swivel goosnecks which don't fall apart. On the hydroblades I don't like using every other hole open, I prefer every hole open for a better flow. on small windows allowing a single pass vertically. The bristles have a good water retention which I like. Not going to try and convert others, it works for me and I'm happy.
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So the Constructor brush including angle adapter is lighter than a Gardiners with angle adapter?
It's still gonna have to be some brush for that sort of money!
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As with any tool... I think it is important to ask opinions of 'users' of the tool your interested in. A bonus too if the user is able to compare with other brushes.
I take opinions with a pinch of salt when tool opinions start with, " looks cheap......" or "looks heavy...." or "looks like it would break..." and more often than not is followed up with a discredit of some sort - not all but sometimes. The operative word is 'look' but never the word 'used'.
I would be more interested in those that have made a purchase and gave it a good go. I would weigh this up with how many 'got on with it' and 'how many did not'...... I would then ask 'could this make a difference to me or my work?' - Cost is the last thing I weigh up. The cost has to be relative to the answers I find.
You might want to include YouTube in your research too.
The Constructor brush comes with a 'Reach-iT' technique. Sadly, knowing this industry, a lot will be slow to understand this new way of thinking, in fact, a lot will dismiss.
I swapped out my Tucker brush for the Constructor brush with Hydroblade. At first, it is difficult to resist doing a final rinse and getting your head around the limited number of agitation passes you need to make. At first, it feels like you are patting your head and rubbing your stomach.
In the end, you will fly through your work. The stock shape with its unique corner jets and corner bristles, the blade bristles, canon diameter and distance apart from each other and positioning have been calibrated to work like a squeegee works. It's amazing stuff, and I am still testing it.
I tested it out on first cleans the other day to great success.
totally agree
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So the Constructor brush including angle adapter is lighter than a Gardiners with angle adapter?
It's still gonna have to be some brush for that sort of money!
A Gardiners sill brush which is the heaviest brush they do.
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Right. I was thinking the one in the picture was a standard Supa Lite.
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Hope this helps ^^^
What length were they please?? ;D
If memory serves me that's like a 14" er or something?? (in the picture)
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So the Constructor brush including angle adapter is lighter than a Gardiners with angle adapter?
It's still gonna have to be some brush for that sort of money!
You have no idea, buddy.... look can I be honest, do a little research - see if it is right for you and your business, find someone who has one, better still come have a tea with me at the new Window Cleaning Village at the Cleaning Show 2019 London... these products will be there. Do not want to do that? Give me a call, I would be happy to explain how the brush works, the rest is up to you.
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So the Constructor brush including angle adapter is lighter than a Gardiners with angle adapter?
It's still gonna have to be some brush for that sort of money!
A Gardiners sill brush which is the heaviest brush they do.
Oh man, do you know that you are talking only in grams here like not megagrams that run into kilos but at an insane macro level? Like weight, that you can never TELL!
Ok, what would you like me to weigh it against next?
Once you get past this weight fixation, which is a red heroin and neither here nor there in relation to Gardiner VS Constructor and a block for you... I might add...
Actually, scrub that - if you have a block here, you will not understand the rest in relation to this brush. My advice to you is stick with what you know.
Me? I'm testing this for my guys because I want to be more efficient in my business. And my initial tests on this brush are delivering that.
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If that was aimed at me I'm not bothered what you weigh it against as i have no interest in it. I was just pointing out to the other guy its weighed against the heaviest gardiners brush and all there others will be a lighter.
i actually disagree with you, there can be a big difference when using a lighter brush day in day out compared to a Sill brush or that constructor brush i wouldn't use either.
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If that was aimed at me I'm not bothered what you weigh it against as i have no interest in it. I was just pointing out to the other guy its weighed against the heaviest gardiners brush and all there others will be a lighter.
i actually disagree with you, there can be a big difference when using a lighter brush day in day out compared to a Sill brush or that constructor brush i wouldn't use either.
Are you using a Gardiner Superlite?
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If that was aimed at me I'm not bothered what you weigh it against as i have no interest in it. I was just pointing out to the other guy its weighed against the heaviest gardiners brush and all there others will be a lighter.
i actually disagree with you, there can be a big difference when using a lighter brush day in day out compared to a Sill brush or that constructor brush i wouldn't use either.
Are you using a Gardiner Superlite?
No mainly the supreme (i like the smaller stock and wider bristle splay on them) for standard residential 20-25ft over that i use the extreme and both with extreme poles.
i actually got the new version of the sill brush when they came out and used it on 2 houses before it was taken off and only use to wash the van down now ;D
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Hi
Anyone used one of these? Are they any good with fanning technique?
At £139 seems fairly pricey
It's a bag of Sh#t! Don't ask Lee Burbidge, he's too busy blowing smoke up Perry's arse!
Thanks
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I like the look of this brush .only problem I see ,is that I would have is the top bar rinse ,as I live on the coast I get a lot of salt on the top of the frames .so I try no clean only to the top of the glass,i think the rinse bar just under the top line of bristles would work even better for me .
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If that was aimed at me I'm not bothered what you weigh it against as i have no interest in it. I was just pointing out to the other guy its weighed against the heaviest gardiners brush and all there others will be a lighter.
i actually disagree with you, there can be a big difference when using a lighter brush day in day out compared to a Sill brush or that constructor brush i wouldn't use either.
It is ok that we agree to disagree :)
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Hi
Anyone used one of these? Are they any good with fanning technique?
At £139 seems fairly pricey
It's a bag of Sh#t! Don't ask Lee Burbidge, he's too busy blowing smoke up Perry's arse!
Thanks
I think you were in such a hurry to troll your message out that you typed your message within the quote you chose. :)
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IMHO.... Lee Burbidge's oppinion is FAR from unbiased!!!!
Usually, if you are experienced enough and something looks shi*e.. it usually is just that!! Unless of course you obtain personal gain from clearly promoting....shi*e!! ;D
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Hi
Anyone used one of these? Are they any good with fanning technique?
At £139 seems fairly pricey
It's a bag of Sh#t! Don't ask Lee Burbidge, he's too busy blowing smoke up Perry's arse!
Thanks
I think you were in such a hurry to troll your message out that you typed your message within the quote you chose. :)
Calm down Shrek!
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Hi
Anyone used one of these? Are they any good with fanning technique?
At £139 seems fairly pricey
It's a bag of Sh#t! Don't ask Lee Burbidge, he's too busy blowing smoke up Perry's arse!
Thanks
I think you were in such a hurry to troll your message out that you typed your message within the quote you chose. :)
Calm down Shrek!
#itwasntme ;D
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Lee I have no problem with your posts.
I use and am very happy with Gardiner's Superlites on my 25' SLX's. I use an Extreme on my Super Max.
i agree the weight between a Constructor & others is minimal in real use I'm sure.
I can't comment on the Constructor either way as I've never used one.
I don't mean to be narrow minded either. I just meant that bearing in mind I'm happy with what I'm using, it would have to be one hell of a brush for me to spend that sort of money.
We change our brushes every 3 months or so & I thought £35 was expensive for a brush!
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Is the constructor faster in everyday usage? If so how?
What is the difference between a constructor brush and any other brush with a rinse bar added to it in real terms?
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Is the constructor faster in everyday usage? If so how?
What is the difference between a constructor brush and any other brush with a rinse bar added to it in real terms?
Hi Paul,
The Constructor brush first off is now a 'contradiction'. In the early days, Constructor brush arrived in parts, with differing bristles. The idea was that you could specifically 'build' the brush to your needs. Today things have changed. Apart from the macro design changes in stock angles the brush arrives 'made up'. But you can still change out things and 're-build' if you wanted to.
When it comes to the Constructor brush with Hydroblade, I advise you not to touch a thing. It has been set up to work as is.
The first thing to compare is the bristles. The bristles form more of a blade and they are angled and positioned in their rows in such a way that it causes the pure water to act in a certain way. On other brushes, the bristles are clustered in rows with gaps between each cluster. I think the technical term in brush making is 'knots'.
These type of brushes are made exactly the same as a broom or sweeping brush is made, holes are punched at breakneck speeds and instantly populated with bristles or knots.
The bristles are made differently on the Constructor. There are no gaps, and no huge 'knots'. On the Hydroblade model, different bristles do different work.
I digress here for a moment, I just thought of another advantage of these Constructor bristles... with my other brushes whether it be Tucker, Gardiner or whatever... when the bristles become worn I had to buy the whole thing to replace. Don't get me wrong, I would use them far past the time I should of sometimes, but that's the risk you take. To fix this I would have to buy a whole new brush.
In a world where throw away plastics is causing a major problem in our seas to the extent that microplastic is working its way back to the food and water you eat and drink daily, perhaps its time to consider our involvement in that.
I digress further... I'm just as bad at throwaway plastic - (this has nothing to do with Constructor brush btw) but seeing the news, the rubbish in the country lanes and on our beaches, I think about this more. I popped down to Makro the other week to buy coffee/tea/milk and cups and plastic spoons for the office. I made a conscious effort to buy wood stirrers instead of plastic spoons. Just the tiniest things like that can help. And a start, I hope I continue to think like this.
Back to bristles - On the Constructor brush, if say the corner bristles have worn badly, you can just pop them out and buy replacements for a few quid! Just like changing a squeegee rubber - although you are going to need a screwdriver and probably best do it the night before work especially if you have not changed out a set of bristles before.
Back to how the Constructor brusk works with the hydro blade ...
Let's talk about rinse bars - I was corrected by using the term 'rinse bar' for the Constructor brush and that the term is 'hydro blade'. OK, I'm not fussed what to call it :)
The hydro blade is not just a tube with holes drilled in randomly like most, the diameter of the cannons, the angle and the distance between canons are designed to create a constant flow just above the bristles in such a way. A lot of 3D printing and testing went on to get the right flow to work with the bristles. There are two cannons either side to take care of the corners, with the corner bristles ensuring no spots in the corner.
I will try and film what happens but on the down stroke, the Constructor brush creates a tumble effect ( it traps the water and scrapes it down the glass). The tightly knit blades drag dirty water from the glass, which reduces the amount of time needed to agitate ( assuming zero TDS water) leaving behind only pure water.
Test: Try the constructor brush and hydro blade on Hydrophobic glass and see if a hydrophilic effect follows the brush.
I have tested this out on a couple first cleans with great results in less time it takes me to clean the old way.
On maintenance cleans, like monthly residential, it feels like your cheating because part of the learning process and way of using this brush is to resist the need to rinse.
You will put yourself through a learning curve of worry for about a day as well, you will be checking your work worried, 'it surely cannot clean as well and as quick', and you will waste time working that out to re-assure yourself.
You will worry that limited up strokes and down strokes, with no final rinse will provide a poor job, but it does not.
To get the best out of the brush further you have to think and treat the brush like a squeegee. Yep... bet you pulled a face reading that part, but its true. I have not quite got to using the Reach-iT technique just yet as most my windows are smaller than I have seen the Reach-iT technique demonstrated on. But I do use this brush like a squeegee knowing I am pulling dirty off and not trying to rub it into oblivion.
When you mop over a window to squeegee up, how many time do you go over the glass with your mop? Once? Twice? For me its once if its maintenance.
I bet it's not 5 or 6 times right, like you may be doing on Hydrophobic glass with your water fed pole.
Constructor brush with hydro blade acts like a squeegee pulling the dirt off the glass. No other brush does this. My testing continues, but I understand how this brush works and compares to your existing brush and I have been shocked at the time saved so far. I am still working with it although the office is keeping me off the tools lately.
My goal is to complete a time span with using the brush, write about my experience more than likely film parts of it and then work out how I am going to explain this to my employees.
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Lee I have no problem with your posts.
I use and am very happy with Gardiner's Superlites on my 25' SLX's. I use an Extreme on my Super Max.
i agree the weight between a Constructor & others is minimal in real use I'm sure.
I can't comment on the Constructor either way as I've never used one.
I don't mean to be narrow minded either. I just meant that bearing in mind I'm happy with what I'm using, it would have to be one hell of a brush for me to spend that sort of money.
We change our brushes every 3 months or so & I thought £35 was expensive for a brush!
TBH even Tucker brushes were super expensive. Most of that, of course, was tariff and import tax. Let us hope we get some good trade deals... :)
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Hi
Anyone used one of these? Are they any good with fanning technique?
At £139 seems fairly pricey
It's a bag of Sh#t! Don't ask Lee Burbidge, he's too busy blowing smoke up Perry's arse!
Thanks
I think you were in such a hurry to troll your message out that you typed your message within the quote you chose. :)
Calm down Shrek!
#itwasntme ;D
lol oops. Sorry Shrek, my bad. #itwasmesir
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IMHO.... Lee Burbidge's oppinion is FAR from unbiased!!!!
Usually, if you are experienced enough and something looks shi*e.. it usually is just that!! Unless of course you obtain personal gain from clearly promoting....shi*e!! ;D
Interesting, usually I don't reply to this type of post. I might deal with hecklers from time to time, but not this type of post. Because there is no constructive conversation that will help this forum or the people here in this post that would come from it. But I will say this small point.
In 3500BC the wheel was invented, or so the famous story goes. A little-known story was a friend of the man that invented the wheel. He thought his friend's idea was soo cool, so radical, he went from village to settlement in and around his local area and he told to whoever would listen about his friend and the wheel. He had a cart back home with these wheels on and he said how productive it had made his farm getting crops to market.
Some expressed fear, some said that they have bareback horses to carry loads and some doubted the idea worked at all... some would go further and say that the idea was rubbish and that it was a con, that he was not the best person to listen to because he was a friend of the wheel inventor.
I guess what I am saying is that it does not matter about connections, it matters if the idea works.
Another factor in whether the wheel would become popular or not would be down to people, like you or other blocks, maybe its cost, maybe its hassle, maybe its just laziness in people to try something different maybe it's as innocent as indifference. We and YOU are entitled to these reactions. But you are also entitled to find out for yourself.
I am happy to inbox you my invoice for the brush I am using. I paid 132 dollars with 19.95 shipping charge total $ 151.00, it was delivered November 29th, 2017, but I didn't start playing around with it until a couple months or so back.
So if you don't mind and with respect, I am here to help those asking questions about a tool I am actually using.
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IMHO.... Lee Burbidge's oppinion is FAR from unbiased!!!!
Usually, if you are experienced enough and something looks shi*e.. it usually is just that!! Unless of course you obtain personal gain from clearly promoting....shi*e!! ;D
Interesting, usually I don't reply to this type of post. I might deal with hecklers from time to time, but not this type of post. Because there is no constructive conversation that will help this forum or the people here in this post that would come from it. But I will say this small point.
In 3500BC the wheel was invented, or so the famous story goes. A little-known story was a friend of the man that invented the wheel. He thought his friend's idea was soo cool, so radical, he went from village to settlement in and around his local area and he told to whoever would listen about his friend and the wheel. He had a cart back home with these wheels on and he said how productive it had made his farm getting crops to market.
Some expressed fear, some said that they have bareback horses to carry loads and some doubted the idea worked at all... some would go further and say that the idea was rubbish and that it was a con, that he was not the best person to listen to because he was a friend of the wheel inventor.
I guess what I am saying is that it does not matter about connections, it matters if the idea works.
Another factor in whether the wheel would become popular or not would be down to people, like you or other blocks, maybe its cost, maybe its hassle, maybe its just laziness in people to try something different maybe it's as innocent as indifference. We and YOU are entitled to these reactions. But you are also entitled to find out for yourself.
I am happy to inbox you my invoice for the brush I am using. I paid 132 dollars with 19.95 shipping charge total $ 151.00, it was delivered November 29th, 2017, but I didn't start playing around with it until a couple months or so back.
So if you don't mind and with respect, I am here to help those asking questions about a tool I am actually using.
I FULLY stand by my original post!!👍 It's like being in a car showroom!!😆
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^^^^, of course, you will. I didn't expect anything less from you.
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If I wanted to buy a Hydroblade brush in the uk where do i find one?
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The simple fact of the matter is with this bloke is that he tried selling poles and it didn’t work we have been using hose outside the pole for years,the pole he was selling was a jap import sold by many many other suppliers but his main selling point was hose outside the pole so sections can be taken off as you come down,nothing at all new there then it can be done with any pole. Why oh why does this bloke think he’s going to chang the WFP industry with this ridiculous attempt at a brush,the number 1 RULE with any brush is weight it could clean far better than others with 1 scrub of a window if it’s not light it won’t sell,he’s a typical salesman through and through using big words to baffle people with bullpoop
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I’d also add the way he’s selling it to people is the fact the brush is supposed to be so good at getting into corners but if he new anything about WFP he’d know with a good flow of water even with pencil jets the water will reach the corners with brush on the glass rinsing on,you show me a lot of houses that have deep set frames on the outside of them I can think of very very few. Most have flat frames that are set back at most 5mm away from the glass and can be cleaned with any brush,I reckon he’s into the bank for so much cash he’s trying to come up with any idea to sell to the likes of Wagga.
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I agree about light brushes.
Although I bought an extreme and dont use it because its too light., I found it took more scrubbing to achieve a clean window than a heavier brush would.
Surely its more about a balance between weight and scrubbing power.
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If I wanted to buy a Hydroblade brush in the uk where do i find one?
Seriously it's a bag of SH#TE! The water cannons Lee talks about with such high regard actually snap or don't work properly! And another flaw is you can't clean Window Sills with it! I've used and spent a lot of money on new tools ect... But the Constructor Brush is the worst tool i've ever used!! Don't waste your money, you will regret it & feel like you've been ripped off!
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I use Gardiner’s ultimate brushes day to day as they are the ideal weight for WFP on certain days I use the extreme brushes,both will clean the window to a satisfactory standard but the extreme brush won’t clean the sill as good. This idiot is purely a salesman trying to sell us something that is not needed at all and I mean at all,if you use a good flow of water it will rinse the glass if you have anything as good as the above brushes or even inferior that will agitate dirt with good water flow it will clean it. WFP window cleaning is about quality of water temperature of water and flow of water,you can have the best gold plated brush in the world without the above 3 things the job can be average. Like I say he’s trying to sell curious people a product they don’t need to be an efficient WFPoler.
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^^^^, of course, you will. I didn't expect anything less from you.
I would rather deal with the Wombles of Wimbledon then deal with Reach-IT or Perry himself!
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Made me laugh I heard a bloke say to his m8 I’ve got a seat he said nah m8 you should have got a VW,when his m8 left I said I wouldn’t worry m8 you’ve got a VW it just says Seat on the back. This bloke has the same selling approach by dressing it up as something better or something different,I can remember years ago when I bought half a dozen Salmon brushes and converted them imo they were better than this attempt at a brush
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I’ve just seen the price 😂 💩 💩
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Peter Fogwill bring back the auto-brush, all is forgiven.
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I've combined a sill brush with a rinse bar.
I've called it the bar sill brush.
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If I wanted to buy a Hydroblade brush in the uk where do i find one?
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Makes me laugh all the talk about how rubbish constructor brushes are. I'll keep watching window cleaners rinsing off the glass and wonder how long they manage at height until they have physical ailments :) I'm not going to even try and debate the argument, I personally don't care what brushes you lot use, it's your choice :) A wise person learns from others what is good and what is bad. A disbeliever finds out for them self and a fool ignores everyone thinking they know best with everything. I've tried many things and probably wasted a fair bit of money finding what works best for me but I'm always keeping an open mind with new things and ideas and try to be practical. A few years back I would have laughed at electric reels and hose guides under vans but who's laughing now they are becoming more popular. Soon I will join that club of lazy cleaners using electric reels, just makes common sense.
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Due to the weight I wouldn’t try one due to bristle set up I wouldn’t try one due to the price I wouldn’t try one,ionic did an over head rinse bar 20 years ago it’s old hat. If you use enough water when you work you’ll see it’s a waste of time,he’s trying to make cash with an idea targeting the WFPolers that buy any new thing that comes to market,I’ve never tried uni valves etc why because i make sure I take enough work out with me in the first place and if I want to stop the water I’ll buy a couple of quid ball valve from b and q or I’ll pinch the hose,save not only your money save your time in bothering. The ones who are championing it are probably being given them to try for free.
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Glue your fan jets or pencils come to that matter above the stock it’ll do the exact same thing,I bet he’s this months top salesman on some Australian shopping channel.
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Best window cleaning product to come out of Aus was the wagtail.
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Perrys trying to nick the jet stream from Willy Wagtail,I bet Willy said you can have it maaaaaaate.
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If I wanted to buy a Hydroblade brush in the uk where do i find one?
as far as i am aware there are no UK suppliers, you have to go direct to Reach-it
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Im sorry....
But what a load of snake oil.
A brush is a brush. £139 for a brush? Seriously?
And whats all this about rinsing? I don't rinse, i just wash the windows and go. What are you rinsing off? Pure Water?
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Im sorry....
But what a load of snake oil.
A brush is a brush. £139 for a brush? Seriously?
And whats all this about rinsing? I don't rinse, i just wash the windows and go. What are you rinsing off? Pure Water?
What flow rate do you work with Marc ?
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Im sorry....
But what a load of snake oil.
A brush is a brush. £139 for a brush? Seriously?
And whats all this about rinsing? I don't rinse, i just wash the windows and go. What are you rinsing off? Pure Water?
Unfortunately mark, people will buy anything that looks ‘new’ and ‘cool’
A brush is most definitely a brush. I’ve tried all sorts over the years and guess what, they all clean the window in exactly the same amount of ‘up and down’ motions as each other.
The only thing I care about nowadays is weight. Which is why I stick to xtreme brushes. I’ve found absolutely no difference in scrubbing power between extreme brushes and other, bigger heavier brushes!
Do people genuinely think that different brushes actually speed up there working day? Rubbish.
Been there done that, it makes no difference.
£24 xtreme brush vs this constructor rubbish would yield absolutely no speed improvement what so ever on any of my work, I can categorically guarantee that, without even trying it. ;D
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If I wanted to buy a Hydroblade brush in the uk where do i find one?
as far as i am aware there are no UK suppliers, you have to go direct to Reach-it
I wonder if Lee Burbidge is lined up to be the UK distributor by any chance?😂
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If I wanted to buy a Hydroblade brush in the uk where do i find one?
as far as i am aware there are no UK suppliers, you have to go direct to Reach-it
I wonder if Lee Burbidge is lined up to be the UK distributor by any chance?😂
He's to busy looking at Perry's Ring!!
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Im sorry....
But what a load of snake oil.
A brush is a brush. £139 for a brush? Seriously?
And whats all this about rinsing? I don't rinse, i just wash the windows and go. What are you rinsing off? Pure Water?
What flow rate do you work with Marc ?
I just have the pump directly working with the built in pressure switch, and a tap on my hose where my pole connects. I normally just go full flow if the windows can take it, if they cant i control it with the tap.
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You will get a better result with a high flow rate with any brush I’ve seen so many WFP with the water piddling out they must be using around 30-40 on the controller,no where near enough water it should be 12-14ft out the jets imo to give better results and no excessive rinsing needed.
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As your scrubbing the water should be cascading down the window rinsing as your brushing with no need to be lifting off the glass time after time,even on maintaince cleans I flood em.
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That's the way to do it boys, flow, flow and flow.
Controller? :D
Never used a controller, 5lpm or 5.5lpm pump flat out is all I use
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You can never take enough water out withbyou in the morning all this scrimping on water with univalves etc will just put strain on the pump with it keep cycling,turn it off when you get back to the van. If that’s a problem get a bigger tank and do not buy one of those buggeritupabrushes.
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On the other hand.... if you can't clean windows to the best possible standard quickly and efficently with an "optimal" flow rather than having to rely on an OTT full flow.... then this also indicates a lack of skill and thorough understanding of the process!
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On my trolley I usemy 4lpm pump on full force and use a remote to turn the pump on n off rather than rely on the pressure switch.
However when im using the van mount, its on a flow between 75 n 80 (goes to 99)and I use a tap (ball valve) to turn the water on n off using pressure switch. Beats bending pole hose to stop the flow as you need to have some method of control.
Ones using uni valve and the like to save water would only be trolley users I would imagine
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Interesting, usually I don't reply to this type of post. I might deal with hecklers from time to time, but not this type of post. Because there is no constructive conversation that will help this forum or the people here in this post that would come from it. But I will say this small point.
In 3500BC the wheel was invented, or so the famous story goes. A little-known story was a friend of the man that invented the wheel. He thought his friend's idea was soo cool, so radical, he went from village to settlement in and around his local area and he told to whoever would listen about his friend and the wheel. He had a cart back home with these wheels on and he said how productive it had made his farm getting crops to market.
Some expressed fear, some said that they have bareback horses to carry loads and some doubted the idea worked at all... some would go further and say that the idea was rubbish and that it was a con, that he was not the best person to listen to because he was a friend of the wheel inventor.
I guess what I am saying is that it does not matter about connections, it matters if the idea works.
Another factor in whether the wheel would become popular or not would be down to people, like you or other blocks, maybe its cost, maybe its hassle, maybe its just laziness in people to try something different maybe it's as innocent as indifference. We and YOU are entitled to these reactions. But you are also entitled to find out for yourself.
I am happy to inbox you my invoice for the brush I am using. I paid 132 dollars with 19.95 shipping charge total $ 151.00, it was delivered November 29th, 2017, but I didn't start playing around with it until a couple months or so back.
So if you don't mind and with respect, I am here to help those asking questions about a tool I am actually using.
You're seriously comparing the reach-it constructor brush to the invention of the wheel?
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Interesting, usually I don't reply to this type of post. I might deal with hecklers from time to time, but not this type of post. Because there is no constructive conversation that will help this forum or the people here in this post that would come from it. But I will say this small point.
In 3500BC the wheel was invented, or so the famous story goes. A little-known story was a friend of the man that invented the wheel. He thought his friend's idea was soo cool, so radical, he went from village to settlement in and around his local area and he told to whoever would listen about his friend and the wheel. He had a cart back home with these wheels on and he said how productive it had made his farm getting crops to market.
Some expressed fear, some said that they have bareback horses to carry loads and some doubted the idea worked at all... some would go further and say that the idea was rubbish and that it was a con, that he was not the best person to listen to because he was a friend of the wheel inventor.
I guess what I am saying is that it does not matter about connections, it matters if the idea works.
Another factor in whether the wheel would become popular or not would be down to people, like you or other blocks, maybe its cost, maybe its hassle, maybe its just laziness in people to try something different maybe it's as innocent as indifference. We and YOU are entitled to these reactions. But you are also entitled to find out for yourself.
I am happy to inbox you my invoice for the brush I am using. I paid 132 dollars with 19.95 shipping charge total $ 151.00, it was delivered November 29th, 2017, but I didn't start playing around with it until a couple months or so back.
So if you don't mind and with respect, I am here to help those asking questions about a tool I am actually using.
I dont personally think the problem isnt that people dont want to try it but more like the high price to pay plus the shipping cost plus the waiting time inorder to try said brush!
For the same price you could buy several brushes and get cracked on working without the need to wait and if you dont like the UK brush you can stick it on ebay and guarantee a sale.
Personally i like the rhino hose Perry sells and no one stocked the red colour and so I ordered the 170ft length for myself and sold some off. However this constructor brush is a little steap in price. Even if a distributor in the uk existed, to recoup his/her shipling fees etc it still wont work due to no discount in the price.
Tben another time having to mess about to reorder the bristle set up you want etc etc. It just sounds such a faff for alot of money
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Next there will be hoseless water transfer.
That's the next big thing boys
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On the other hand.... if you can't clean windows to the best possible standard quickly and efficently with an "optimal" flow rather than having to rely on an OTT full flow.... then this also indicates a lack of skill and thorough understanding of the process!
The quicker you rinse the quicker you move on to the next window.
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the heaviest brush i use is around 180g(gardiners ultimate).how light are these constructor brushes?not that i want to buy one like.... ;D
..i got put off the "reach it" gear when they brought out that ridiculous pole (with a million different sections)confusing or what? ::)roll ;D....
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On the other hand.... if you can't clean windows to the best possible standard quickly and efficently with an "optimal" flow rather than having to rely on an OTT full flow.... then this also indicates a lack of skill and thorough understanding of the process!
The quicker you rinse the quicker you move on to the next window.
"Optimal" anything more is not required.
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What’s optimal for one window isn’t optimal for the next. So on full flow you waste some water, big deal. You get through the work quicker. That’s what counts, not “is my flow optimal”
What are you a sanitary towel advert?
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What’s optimal for one window isn’t optimal for the next. So on full flow you waste some water, big deal. You get through the work quicker. That’s what counts, not “is my flow optimal”
What are you a sanitary towel advert?
😂
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If I wanted to buy a Hydroblade brush in the uk where do i find one?
I am not sure. I bought mine from their website - direct.
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You can never take enough water out withbyou in the morning all this scrimping on water with univalves etc will just put strain on the pump with it keep cycling,turn it off when you get back to the van. If that’s a problem get a bigger tank and do not buy one of those buggeritupabrushes.
One of the reasons why Surflow altered their warranty I understand.
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Interesting, usually I don't reply to this type of post. I might deal with hecklers from time to time, but not this type of post. Because there is no constructive conversation that will help this forum or the people here in this post that would come from it. But I will say this small point.
In 3500BC the wheel was invented, or so the famous story goes. A little-known story was a friend of the man that invented the wheel. He thought his friend's idea was soo cool, so radical, he went from village to settlement in and around his local area and he told to whoever would listen about his friend and the wheel. He had a cart back home with these wheels on and he said how productive it had made his farm getting crops to market.
Some expressed fear, some said that they have bareback horses to carry loads and some doubted the idea worked at all... some would go further and say that the idea was rubbish and that it was a con, that he was not the best person to listen to because he was a friend of the wheel inventor.
I guess what I am saying is that it does not matter about connections, it matters if the idea works.
Another factor in whether the wheel would become popular or not would be down to people, like you or other blocks, maybe its cost, maybe its hassle, maybe its just laziness in people to try something different maybe it's as innocent as indifference. We and YOU are entitled to these reactions. But you are also entitled to find out for yourself.
I am happy to inbox you my invoice for the brush I am using. I paid 132 dollars with 19.95 shipping charge total $ 151.00, it was delivered November 29th, 2017, but I didn't start playing around with it until a couple months or so back.
So if you don't mind and with respect, I am here to help those asking questions about a tool I am actually using.
You're seriously comparing the reach-it constructor brush to the invention of the wheel?
No. I am not. Clearly, you missed the point. It could have been anything new. ::)roll
I'm guessing you missed the meanings behind bedtime stories too :)
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So anyway, those reading and not posting questions, that want to... just inbox me.
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So anyway, those reading and not posting questions, that want to... just inbox me.
I'm reading but I don't have any questions. I've already made my mind up :)
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So anyway, those reading and not posting questions, that want to... just inbox me.
I'm reading but I don't have any questions. I've already made my mind up :)
Please re-read the part.... 'that want to' ... I am guessing that excludes you. So you wasted your time posting and my time replying lol
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5 pages discussing a brush.! Jesus Christ. ;D
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So anyway, those reading and not posting questions, that want to... just inbox me.
I'm reading but I don't have any questions. I've already made my mind up :)
Please re-read the part.... 'that want to' ... I am guessing that excludes you. So you wasted your time posting and my time replying lol
I posted because I have nothing better to do ;D
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What’s optimal for one window isn’t optimal for the next. So on full flow you waste some water, big deal. You get through the work quicker. That’s what counts, not “is my flow optimal”
What are you a sanitary towel advert?
You prove the point perfectly Slacky.🤣🤣
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5 pages discussing a brush.! Jesus Christ. ;D
Other than the bristles turning pure into some sort of snake oil there has been very little said about the actual brush, that said I'm sure there will be a guy out there who will buy one to stick on his used worn out SLX pole which he's just bought on fleebay for more than the new price. lol.
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No. I am not. Clearly, you missed the point. It could have been anything new. ::)roll
Yes, you were.
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What’s optimal for one window isn’t optimal for the next. So on full flow you waste some water, big deal. You get through the work quicker. That’s what counts, not “is my flow optimal”
What are you a sanitary towel advert?
You prove the point perfectly Slacky.🤣🤣
So, you're a tampon ;)
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What’s optimal for one window isn’t optimal for the next. So on full flow you waste some water, big deal. You get through the work quicker. That’s what counts, not “is my flow optimal”
What are you a sanitary towel advert?
You prove the point perfectly Slacky.🤣🤣
So, you're a tampon ;)
Errr... no, that you don't fully understand the process. Never even had a pump half way, never mind full flow in over 14 years wfp. Absolutely no need to.
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Wow
Just asking a question about a brush, didnt realise I'm opening a can of worms!
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Wow
Just asking a question about a brush, didnt realise I'm opening a can of worms!
Just a typical clean it up "discussion"