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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: mufcglen on March 07, 2018, 10:29:00 pm
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Went to swap my hoseless fitting from my slx to my extreme pole tonight and noticed the top section stops quite high up inside the bottom pole unlike the slx so u can’t fit a hoseless fitting, what I’ve done for now is just leave the male rectus pipe hanging out but means I need to hold it to fit the female connector on then I can pull it up.
Anyone else had this issue?
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Went to swap my hoseless fitting from my slx to my extreme pole tonight and noticed the top section stops quite high up inside the bottom pole unlike the slx so u can’t fit a hoseless fitting, what I’ve done for now is just leave the male rectus pipe hanging out but means I need to hold it to fit the female connector on then I can pull it up.
Anyone else had this issue?
I have several extream poles not had a problem converting them to hoseless and the slx you just need to adjust the height of the first section with a spacer so it doesn’t close right down there is no difference between them
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I had the same problem with an Extreme 47. Fitting the spacer just pushes the first section up further. I had to do the same as you and leave a short pole hose tail on it. This was not ideal when using the standard end protector so I swapped this for the pole end rings that Gardiner sell.
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Do u have any pics guys as like I say my first pole section is about 2-3 inches shorter than the others so sits deeper inside the pole when all collapsed unlike the slx?
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Really struggled with this today, loved my first day with the xtreme pole but having to have the mad rectus hanging out the pole was a nightmare trying to hold the pole and connect the female to it, then when I extended the pole It was disconnecting on the inside of the pole, I don’t see any way I can make it work like the slx because no1 section is much shorter than the outside section so the male would be sitting 3-4 inches deep inside!
All I can think of is cutting the end of the external pole section down which I’m certainly not going to do or go back to the old method of 10 metres of pole hose hanging about!!
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Take a pic and send it to Alex at Gardiners. Not sure why the Extreme poles seem to have different length pole sections.
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Not sure what you want to see but fitting the hoseless system to a six or extream is the same I have done both on mine no problems at all ??? (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1520528760_312383C1-C167-4C2F-A146-76DC515F43D8.jpeg)
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(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1520528992_5D23C72E-E06C-4EEF-86C8-655C51938115.jpeg)
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Don’t understand why your first section is shorter I have converted an extream 47 , two extream 18, two six 18, six25, ultimate 46 , and clx 27 all with no problem .
Surely if your top section of the pole is shorter it will work fine as that’s what you are doing by putting a spacer on that top section you are making it approx 60-70 mm up inside the base cap if that makes sense
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The problem he's having is the first section is too short so fitting the spacer would make it even shorter. When his pole is collapsed his male rectus fitting is too far up the pole so he can't connect his female rectus to it.
It's the same on my Extreme 47. I have to remove the first section from the pole then pass the pole hose up the removed sections, connect it to the first section then slide the first section back together. It's a ball ache. If you try and fit a short piece of hose with a male rectus fitting it justs snags the inside of the pole and disconnects.
Has Gardiners shortened the first two sections to stop them snapping?
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I had this problem on my extreme 47 when converting to tubeless. I bought my tubeless kit from Steve at Exceed . He was kind to make me an adapter tube made of plastic that slots into the top tube of the extreme to make it longer .
Tris
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Could you post a pic please?
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Strange haven’t had this with mine ??? But if it’s a couple of inches shorter it should be ok just don’t use the spacer surely?...
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Even if you don't use the spacer the first section is still out of reach.
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Hi guys yes delta your exactly correct it’s up way too far in the pole to get too whereas my slx it was just perfectly sat just within being able to connect and disconnect with no issues, I did wonder if gardiner have made that first section shorter to strengthen the section or something?
I will take the end cap off and take a pic of the collapsed sections inside😉
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Pic of the pole closed, you can see just how far up no1 section is, hope Alex gardiner is reading this so he can advise if this is normal as the pole will be shorter too won’t it?(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1520549051_01AF3DCC-468F-4108-9316-81E4CD09576C.jpeg)[img]
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That’s normal on the extreme , mine is like it too .
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I have never compared the lengths of the sections but my extreams I have approx 60-70 mill of the first section extended and a spacer on that section and don’t have any problems connecting and disconnecting the hose in the plastic sleeve supplied by Steve
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Thanks guys bloody hell I totally forgot about the plastic sleeve, I ditched it on my slx as I preferred using a bare rectus but just fitted the sleeve and fitted my hoseless section in the pole and what do you know the thing works a treat because of the plastic sleeve enabling me to get it right up and then pull it off too😂
I’d rather not use the sleeve but if its needed with the xtreme I can’t have another day with it dangling about like today🤮
Thanks for replying lads😉
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Now I'm confused. :)
If you use the sleeve won't your rectus fitting be further up section 1? If so how are you disconnecting when you want to swap poles for different jobs?
The idea of tubeless is that the sleeve protector should just be sticking out the end of the pole when it's collapsed so you can disconnect.
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That’s correct the sleeve helps disconnect the rectus as it pulls on the sliding section of the rectus to disconnect it but also because the sleeve is 2 or so inches long that helps it just about stick out enough to plug in and pull off, when I wasn’t using the sleeve and just a bare rectus I would have needed to get my fingers inside the pole to slide the rectus collar down!
I’ll post a pic up later of it connected😉
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I'm getting my ejector sleeve mixed up with the snap on pole spacer. Apologies.
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Though the tubeless kit is a great piece of engineering and a lot of thought has obviously gone into it, I've found it a lot simpler and more effective to just leave a short hose tail at the base of the pole and fit a JG connector. With this form of tubeless setup you don't need spacers, bungs or ejector sleeves. It works for me as I like the 'asap' aproach (As Simple As Possible). The less bits and bobs we have attached to our kit the less there is to go wrong with it and the easier it usually is to find and fix problems.
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Now I'm confused. :)
If you use the sleeve won't your rectus fitting be further up section 1? If so how are you disconnecting when you want to swap poles for different jobs?
The idea of tubeless is that the sleeve protector should just be sticking out the end of the pole when it's collapsed so you can disconnect.
That’s correct that’s why you use the spacer to extent the pole by about 60-70 mm then the sleeve is just at the base cap on the pole I have adjusted mine to suite my needs (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1520592295_38577C97-C78D-4348-AAC5-CDCA8779A997.jpeg)(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1520592280_14FE6205-E8A4-48F0-B9EE-AD2C52217B94.jpeg)
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Though the tubeless kit is a great piece of engineering and a lot of thought has obviously gone into it, I've found it a lot simpler and more effective to just leave a short hose tail at the base of the pole and fit a JG connector. With this form of tubeless setup you don't need spacers, bungs or ejector sleeves. It works for me as I like the 'asap' aproach (As Simple As Possible). The less bits and bobs we have attached to our kit the less there is to go wrong with it and the easier it usually is to find and fix problems.
I tried your way several years ago but found that the fitting hit the bottom of the pole each time it was extended or collapsed and it was a pain : so got Steve’s set up and works well
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just finished work for the day lads, absolutely worked a treat with the sleeve on, ideally the sleeve could be abit longer and i may contact whoever it is who makes them and see if they could do me a slightly longer sleeve.
have to say first full day on the xtreme, arms and neck feel great and work has been rattled off much quicker.
i usually finish 1-2ish and today got done for 12.30!!!
money well spent hopefully
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Though the tubeless kit is a great piece of engineering and a lot of thought has obviously gone into it, I've found it a lot simpler and more effective to just leave a short hose tail at the base of the pole and fit a JG connector. With this form of tubeless setup you don't need spacers, bungs or ejector sleeves. It works for me as I like the 'asap' aproach (As Simple As Possible). The less bits and bobs we have attached to our kit the less there is to go wrong with it and the easier it usually is to find and fix problems.
I take it you don't have hot water or an electric reel then ? :D ;D
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(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1520628400_15EA9541-87FE-4D08-B913-48C4CC28CE7E.jpeg)
As you can see it’s fairly short when its connected and poles fully collapsed!
Ideally I could just do with a sleeve that’s an inch longer, wonder if exceed could make me one maybe?
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(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1520628400_15EA9541-87FE-4D08-B913-48C4CC28CE7E.jpeg)
As you can see it’s fairly short when its connected and poles fully collapsed!
Ideally I could just do with a sleeve that’s an inch longer, wonder if exceed could make me one maybe?
Why do you need it longer that’s the perfect length to connect-disconnect ????
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The way it is there I’d just like it ideally an inch longer so I can pull it off with more than the tips of my fingers, it’s working perfect as it is but just a tad more easier to grip🤗
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The way it is there I’d just like it ideally an inch longer so I can pull it off with more than the tips of my fingers, it’s working perfect as it is but just a tad more easier to grip🤗
Just shorten the spacer on the top section of the pole that will give you a longer ejected sleeve to get hold of just don’t have it all sticking out the end if you do when extending the pole it will disconnect: from your picture I would have thought where you have it would work well
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I don’t have a spacer on the top section pal, that pic is of the clamps fully closed down!