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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: paul alan on March 06, 2018, 04:54:17 pm
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After fitting some electric reels at Christmas I can honestly say it has been one of the best things I could have done on my break.
The difference is massive.
For those that aint sure, go outside to the van and reel off 100m of hose and reel back in at a decent pace. Repeat this 3-4 times.
Then asess if you could live without doing this everyday. I know I can.
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lazy git....how old are you?35?or 85?
i honestly dont have a problem reeling in with a fixed manual reel.mines a cox reel and its virtually effortless.....
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with an electric real its completely effortless.
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I'm seriously considering an electric reel, looks like it saves a lot of time and energy! Have you got the remote control model or a button in the van?
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Now I think that an electric reel is one of the extras that woul make a difference to your day . Rather spend on this than an expensive hot water set up 😁
Tris
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30 seconds for 100m love my HD reel wouldn't go back to manual reeling my dicky shoulder is 98% better.
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I'm seriously considering an electric reel, looks like it saves a lot of time and energy! Have you got the remote control model or a button in the van?
Didn't bother with the remote, my thinking was 1 you need to be next to the van anyway to align the hose back onto the reel and 2 i wouldn't start reeling in if i couldn't see if anybody was walking past while its reeling in. The cable on the power up hd reel is plenty long enough to put the controller on the back door so you dont have to go leaning in the van to push the button.
They certainly are a brilliant time saver and more importantly your body will thank you for it no matter how fit you think you are.
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Now I think that an electric reel is one of the extras that woul make a difference to your day . Rather spend on this than an expensive hot water set up 😁
Tris
each to their own...you ve obviously not used piping hot purified water to clean windows,fascias,soffits,gutters and conny roofs then..... ;)
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Now I think that an electric reel is one of the extras that woul make a difference to your day . Rather spend on this than an expensive hot water set up 😁
Tris
each to their own...you ve obviously not used piping hot purified water to clean windows,fascias,soffits,gutters and conny roofs then..... ;)
you obviously haven't used an electric reel for the day ;D
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would never go back to manual reeling
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lazy git....how old are you?35?or 85?
i honestly dont have a problem reeling in with a fixed manual reel.mines a cox reel and its virtually effortless.....
I cant believe you dont have a leccy reel daz, you have a brand new van and hot water to make your life as easy as possible and one item that does make a noticaeble difference is a leccy reel. And you dont have one :o
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Don’t worry he will get one soon enough
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lazy git....how old are you?35?or 85?
i honestly dont have a problem reeling in with a fixed manual reel.mines a cox reel and its virtually effortless.....
39 years young mate!
I'm in the best shape I have been in for since I was compteting in 2008, strength traing x2 per week and conditioning x1 per week.
Still dont miss reeling in though, leaves that little bit of gas left in the tank for other things .
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Now I think that an electric reel is one of the extras that woul make a difference to your day . Rather spend on this than an expensive hot water set up 😁
Tris
Cost £50 per reel!
And it hasn't missed a beat in 10 weeks.
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I'm seriously considering an electric reel, looks like it saves a lot of time and energy! Have you got the remote control model or a button in the van?
I installed me reel above waist height and put a button right next to it, easy as pie.
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I'm seriously considering an electric reel, looks like it saves a lot of time and energy! Have you got the remote control model or a button in the van?
I installed me reel above waist height and put a button right next to it, easy as pie.
Thats how I have mine set up as well, it makes it so much easier. However ive been re jigging the van around today. It is you Paul isnt it as PnSwindowcleaning on youtube who shared video of the new layout? Since ive seen that I have been thinking about doing similar and lifting the reel higher and so today ive made a start:
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Dismantled my pump n controller from the mounted board from pure freedom and fitted my pump underneath like yourself but my controller is right next to the reel.
Just means I have to get up extra early to finish the van off. Need to re fit the electric motor to the reel and wire it up. Im placing the button to the other side of the reel, so its all in easy reach
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Yes mate that's me pnswindowcleaning.
I sat for hours trying to work the best layout out and it kept coming back to that, its a no brainer really.
Looks good what you've done there, looking forward to the video mate.
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lazy git....how old are you?35?or 85?
i honestly dont have a problem reeling in with a fixed manual reel.mines a cox reel and its virtually effortless.....
I cant believe you dont have a leccy reel daz, you have a brand new van and hot water to make your life as easy as possible and one item that does make a noticaeble difference is a leccy reel. And you dont have one :o
i dont have a problem with reeling in mate...no shoulder problems,no weak arms,no neck problems.i dont find it hard work....if anything it gives a short cardio benefit which is a good thing IMO.....
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I have been thinking about one of these Grippatank electric jobies seams to be a big delay in them being released, might get one to try and if successful/ I like it might get a second one any reviews when ones get one would be good 😎😎😎😎
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It took me a month to fine tune my DIY electric reel. It's like have a second person doing the hard work for you. Boosted productivity. I'll never go back to Manual reel now. All remote reeling. Such a time and energy saver.
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lazy git....how old are you?35?or 85?
i honestly dont have a problem reeling in with a fixed manual reel.mines a cox reel and its virtually effortless.....
I cant believe you dont have a leccy reel daz, you have a brand new van and hot water to make your life as easy as possible and one item that does make a noticaeble difference is a leccy reel. And you dont have one :o
i dont have a problem with reeling in mate...no shoulder problems,no weak arms,no neck problems.i dont find it hard work....if anything it gives a short cardio benefit which is a good thing IMO.....
A short cardio benefit :D haha daz that did make me chuckle.
Fair enough. when I got one I noticed the benefit, slightly faster reeling it but mainly less fatiguing and just saved having to bend over and make the effort. I would like it to using an extreme brush over a vikan. Yeh I can use both but why make the job harder than it needs to be.
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lazy git....how old are you?35?or 85?
i honestly dont have a problem reeling in with a fixed manual reel.mines a cox reel and its virtually effortless.....
I’m surprised you haven’t gone electric yet daz.
No matter how effortless the cox reel
Is, it’s got to take a toll on your shoulder.
I love my electric reels.
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i love my power up hd but its a battery killer i was killing my 75amp batterys in 6 months so have just upgraded to 110 amp
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lazy git....how old are you?35?or 85?
i honestly dont have a problem reeling in with a fixed manual reel.mines a cox reel and its virtually effortless.....
I’m surprised you haven’t gone electric yet daz.
No matter how effortless the cox reel
Is, it’s got to take a toll on your shoulder.
I love my electric reels.
Hes convincing himself that he doesnt need one, a bit like how he tried to convince himself that hot wasnt needed................ So keeo watching this space, he'll end up buying one
;D ;D
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Now I think that an electric reel is one of the extras that woul make a difference to your day . Rather spend on this than an expensive hot water set up 😁
Tris
each to their own...you ve obviously not used piping hot purified water to clean windows,fascias,soffits,gutters and conny roofs then..... ;)
Dazmond s right of course until he gets one and then he'll be right again.
No drama, its Dazmond.
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I took a very different approach which I am very happy with.
I use 30 metres of pole hose spliced into about 60/70 metres of microbore. This means that for the majority of my jobs I am just flicking very light hose around and reeling in very light hose too.
If I know I need a lot to get to the far end of a property I can walk to a "pinch" point, drag and loop up lots of hose and carry it to the far point. (lighter to carry than loops of microbore)
Haven't sprung a leak in a year now and very pleased. Also when I replace it I only buy 30 metres and hose joiners as the microbore rarely gets pulled out and gets little wear and tear.
It's the green pole hose from Gardiners - (THEY DO NOT GUARANTEE IT AS A MAIN REEL HOSE) - and its no cheaper than microbore but it works very well for me.
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lazy git....how old are you?35?or 85?
i honestly dont have a problem reeling in with a fixed manual reel.mines a cox reel and its virtually effortless.....
I’m surprised you haven’t gone electric yet daz.
No matter how effortless the cox reel
Is, it’s got to take a toll on your shoulder.
I love my electric reels.
no it doesnt.....ill only reel in 3 times today....shoulders are fine(i worked them hard last night in the gym too)
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Now I think that an electric reel is one of the extras that woul make a difference to your day . Rather spend on this than an expensive hot water set up 😁
Tris
each to their own...you ve obviously not used piping hot purified water to clean windows,fascias,soffits,gutters and conny roofs then..... ;)
Dazmond s right of course until he gets one and then he'll be right again.
No drama, its Dazmond.
if i start having shoulder problems/other injuries ill probably get one but until then its a non issue....
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i love my power up hd but its a battery killer i was killing my 75amp batterys in 6 months so have just upgraded to 110 amp
ive already got my diesel heater and pump/controller taking a lot out of my batteries(2 x 105 numax).....i dont need another power source draining them even more when im out and about....
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lazy git....how old are you?35?or 85?
i honestly dont have a problem reeling in with a fixed manual reel.mines a cox reel and its virtually effortless.....
I cant believe you dont have a leccy reel daz, you have a brand new van and hot water to make your life as easy as possible and one item that does make a noticaeble difference is a leccy reel. And you dont have one :o
Now you've said that, Daz will have one within 6 months
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I took a very different approach which I am very happy with.
I use 30 metres of pole hose spliced into about 60/70 metres of microbore. This means that for the majority of my jobs I am just flicking very light hose around and reeling in very light hose too.
If I know I need a lot to get to the far end of a property I can walk to a "pinch" point, drag and loop up lots of hose and carry it to the far point. (lighter to carry than loops of microbore)
Haven't sprung a leak in a year now and very pleased. Also when I replace it I only buy 30 metres and hose joiners as the microbore rarely gets pulled out and gets little wear and tear.
It's the green pole hose from Gardiners - (THEY DO NOT GUARANTEE IT AS A MAIN REEL HOSE) - and its no cheaper than microbore but it works very well for me.
Thats my setup exactly , for winter anyway !
In summer 100m of the green goes on .
Then its all pulled in with electric drill .
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Give Damond a break he already has to clean 2000 properties a year just to cover his ongoing expenses and your looking him to
add more. lol.
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I think the height of your reel is important as to whether you feel fatigued by manually reeling it in and also the hose you use.
I have a pickup and the mounted reel ( waist height with green pu pole hose ) is the perfect height to be effortless when reeling in. It would just be a pointless expense for me and something else to go wrong. If I were to be using a van and with heavier hose on a reel mounted lower I could see how it may become an issue for some though.
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LOl I too can’t believe you don’t have 1 Daz I thought you did,you have the Ferrari but no key yet.It has changed everything in my working day no more shoulder click or lower back pain as well as being worn out reeling it’s harder than the job Itself reeling in all day.
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"Reet, Pet, when you've finished that, reel the hoses in and I'll knock and chit!"
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She closes the van doors too.
Job jobbed.
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LOl I too can’t believe you don’t have 1 Daz I thought you did,you have the Ferrari but no key yet.It has changed everything in my working day no more shoulder click or lower back pain as well as being worn out reeling it’s harder than the job Itself reeling in all day.
all i can say is you must be really out of shape and unfit if you think winding in a reel a few times a day is hard work nigel...... ::)roll
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LOl I too can’t believe you don’t have 1 Daz I thought you did,you have the Ferrari but no key yet.It has changed everything in my working day no more shoulder click or lower back pain as well as being worn out reeling it’s harder than the job Itself reeling in all day.
all i can say is you must be really out of shape and unfit if you think winding in a reel a few times a day is hard work nigel...... ::)roll
Prevention is better than cure mate.
In a few years as you get older your body is bound to have wear and tear from repetitive movements like we do day in and day out.
Make life easy for yourself.
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Prevention is better than cure mate.
In a few years as you get older your body is bound to have wear and tear from repetitive movements like we do day in and day out.
Make life easy for yourself.
I think all those things that make life too easy, weaken our bodies and make us soft. Stuff like lumbar support back rests, weaken the back, or arch support running shoes, weaken the feet.
Human bodies are designed to move.
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I went overtop electric a few months back. Best move I ever made.
Now when I tug one off it means I can use my left hand as much as me right and we all know what that feels like.
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Now when I tug one off it means I can use my left hand as much as me right and we all know what that feels like.
Miles O'Brian disagrees with you:
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In a few years as you get older your body is bound to have wear and tear from repetitive movements like we do day in and day out.
Just to add, you may find not moving your body is bad for your joints. I agree there's a 'happy medium'; i.e. the extremes probably won't be good, but I know there's lots of evidence that show that running (for example), done progressively, is actually good for your joints and encourages cartilage growth.
Joints are, in fact, strengthened and modified by exercise. These adaptations explain the utility of physical activity in the treatment of arthritis, and the ability of joints to endure years of running without permanent damage. Ligaments and muscles, which support joints, are strengthened and reinforced by the stresses of athletic activity, improving joint mechanics. The flexibility of muscles, encouraged by exercise, can also aid the mechanical function of joints.
https://www.runnersworld.com/injury-treatment/osteoarthritis-in-runners
And you don't get more repetitive than running.
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Prevention is better than cure mate.
In a few years as you get older your body is bound to have wear and tear from repetitive movements like we do day in and day out.
Make life easy for yourself.
I think all those things that make life too easy, weaken our bodies and make us soft. Stuff like lumbar support back rests, weaken the back, or arch support running shoes, weaken the feet.
Human bodies are designed to move.
Yes, human bodies need to be worked.
If outside of work you don't do much else then I would say that reeling in may be of benefit. But the issue I had with reeling in was we have 2 reels in the van side by side, so all my reeling in was done with the same arm. My left, which is the same arm that extends out to hold the pole up.
Last year with all the long days, weekends and first cleans my left arm took a serious beating along with my neck. Its safe to say I now know where my limits are because I bumped into them a few times last year and it was something I don't want to do too often. I knew this year something had to change so I decided to make things as easy as possible at work.
I am in no way lazy or soft, I get plenty of exercise outside of work, strength training and kickboxing.
My point is that you only get some much energy in one day, I would just prefer to save a little for other activities. Even if its just being able to say "ok" when boy says come on dad lets play.
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Since when does it become a discussion of how fit a person is for them to have or not have an electric reel.
Why dont you stop bickering and some of you do away with a 5grand hot water system and the wfp pole and go old school if you have tonnes of energy and want to keep fit compared to the easy life of wfp.
;D ;D ;D
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Since when does it become a discussion of how fit a person is for them to have or not have an electric reel.
When someone says:
your body is bound to have wear and tear from repetitive movements
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Lol is it an achievement to have lower back pain and a dislocated shoulder,you’ve spent all that money on that setup Daz do yourself a favour and get the HD m8 you’ll thank us all.
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Lol is it an achievement to have lower back pain and a dislocated shoulder,you’ve spent all that money on that setup Daz do yourself a favour and get the HD m8 you’ll thank us all.
i havent got lower back pain and a dislocated shoulder mate....if i did i would probably get an electric reel! ;) ;D
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Since when does it become a discussion of how fit a person is for them to have or not have an electric reel.
When someone says:
your body is bound to have wear and tear from repetitive movements
Tosh,
Repetitive strain is well documented surely? Office workers can often get carpel tunnel or bad wrists from typing all day, that’s one end of the spectrum for rsi.
For us, doing the exact same movements day in and day out is bound to take its toll.
I agree the body needs worked, and a seditary life style isn’t good. The best balance would be physical exercise, and the easiest and lightest work day as possible. Work isn’t really exercise, yes it burns some calories, but it’s not exertion, just wear and tear.
Have a look at someone has done manual work there whole life, there knees, elbows, backs are usually in a real state.
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No you don’t have strain injuries now m8 but keep bending over reeling in and taking 1 for the team and you soon will have trust me lol,you don’t just get these injuries they happen over time years of doing repetition work one day your back or shoulder will say eh up this is to much for me. After that it will be coming back to haunt you every now and again,I had lower back ache I thought oh no not that please in this job,got the reel shoulder and frozen lower back problems 100% better. Like I say get 1 so you don’t have to put unnecessary strain on your body these days we have things to elevate the need for it compared to 15-20 years ago with WFP
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Pick and shovel or JCB the fool would pick up the shovel imo.
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I haven't had shoulder issues since I got an electric reel. Prior to this they were regular.
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Its like the hot water debate all over again, if your reeling in at every property then an electric reel could be a useful tool, if
your reeling in once or twice a day then its not going to make a noticeable difference to your working day, just a pity Dazmond
didn't apply the same logic before wasting £5k on a water heater to remove dust.
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I bet you are all in favour of a belled end dryclean dear oh dear are you completely skint pal.
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I bet you are all in favour of a belled end dryclean dear oh dear are you completely skint pal.
No mate the only difference between me and you is you have money and I have money and common sense.
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Have to say... most windows I have cleaned this week have been filthy with the Beast ftom the East. However, they have been no more difficult or taken any longer to clean with cold water than hot! It's atmospheric dirt which removed without any extra effort! In fact, they have been no more difficult to clean than normal!!
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No you don’t have strain injuries now m8 but keep bending over reeling in and taking 1 for the team and you soon will have trust me lol,you don’t just get these injuries they happen over time years of doing repetition work one day your back or shoulder will say eh up this is to much for me. After that it will be coming back to haunt you every now and again,I had lower back ache I thought oh no not that please in this job,got the reel shoulder and frozen lower back problems 100% better. Like I say get 1 so you don’t have to put unnecessary strain on your body these days we have things to elevate the need for it compared to 15-20 years ago with WFP
how many times do you reel in during the day though?ive reeled in twice today.average is 3 or 4 times a day thats it....
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On average I would say I do 6-8 jobs a day sometimes a few more but it makes no difference everyday regardless you are still reeling in,on a lot of my work I’m using a lot of hose but again makes no difference I would still be bending over hand cranking that reel if it was 20-30 meters. I’ve said it time and time again the hardest part of WFP imo is hand cranking in the hose,you will be very surprised at how much more energy you’ll have using electric I was sceptical at first but I would buy another in a heart beat if it broke.
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Actually it was my Mrs that said surely if it’s going to make your day easier get 1 when I was being tight about parting with the 600 odd notes 😂,anything for work that’ll make your day easier is not a waste of money end of. 3 things needed to make your day a pleasure and that’s Hot Water Electric reel and an Extreme selection of poles,sometimes it doesn’t feel like work walking round colouring in Windows with the old cans over the ear holes 😂
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Actually it was my Mrs that said surely if it’s going to make your day easier get 1 when I was being tight about parting with the 600 odd notes 😂,anything for work that’ll make your day easier is not a waste of money end of. 3 things needed to make your day a pleasure and that’s Hot Water Electric reel and an Extreme selection of poles,sometimes it doesn’t feel like work walking round colouring in Windows with the old cans over the ear holes 😂
Colouring in windows, I love that.
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That’s all it is m8 isn’t it when there clean,I’ve got a selection of crayons in my van to reach the little squares,that’s why it makes me laugh when people moan about this job when they say it’s only cleaning windows there must be something else.lol I love it it’s an easy life when you’ve got the work no stress or the only stress is when the customers got the ump nothing you’ve done or you ain’t had enough sleep the night before and your a bit sleepy eyed,look at the lives some others have at the bus stops or waiting for the late trains. That’s the thing with Wcleaning you get too much time to think sometimes.
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I totally agree, when you have done some of the jobs I have this window cleaning is a very cushy and well paid number!
I don't take it for granted.
We are lucky to have ended up here.
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Actually it was my Mrs that said surely if it’s going to make your day easier get 1 when I was being tight about parting with the 600 odd notes 😂,anything for work that’ll make your day easier is not a waste of money end of. 3 things needed to make your day a pleasure and that’s Hot Water Electric reel and an Extreme selection of poles,sometimes it doesn’t feel like work walking round colouring in Windows with the old cans over the ear holes 😂
have you got the energy to do 3 heavy sessions in the gym weight training every week for an hour at a time? plus 20 mins of cardio 3 times a week?3 hours of drumming with a rock/pop band,walk the dog for at least 2 hours a week as well as window cleaning 4 or 5 days a week? ;D
i do and thats with manually reeling in every day....... :)
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The willys are out..... somebody fetch the tape measure!! ;D
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Didn't know you went to the gym daz, you haven't mentioned that before... :o
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Didn't know you went to the gym daz, you haven't mentioned that before... :o
;D ;D ;D
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I haven't had shoulder issues since I got an electric reel. Prior to this they were regular.
Agreed my old injury as calmed since the hd reel god send in my book.
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Dazmond after 6 months on the electric reel ;D
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i have a electric reel and it was brought by my insurance company to help me get back to work after accident
some days it makes no difference to me as i could pull out 100mts and not move the van all day ,other days it help when your moving to and from,it does help my neck and back i must admit,but i also feel that winding in by hand help to maintain movement/strenght in my back and shoulders
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These injury's and aches etc do happen over many years. Mine must be down to the 15 years I spent in a warehouse doing manual labour lifting far too much incorrectly day after day.
I have a lower back problem that flares up from time to time. Everyday window cleaning doesn't bother it but if I've been using the gutter vac for the day or bent over pressure washing it will set it off. Same with bending over with a manual Reel or humping the backpack about.
There's no telling daz, he is too stubborn , he said extreme poles were the only thing he's use, now it's slx. Form hot water to cold back to hot. Mark my words he will come on here showing his love for leccy reels one day.
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I like the ability to lift the reels out of my van and point them in the direction of travel. Wor Lass goes one way with her reel hose, I go the other, we meet in the middle.
I tried them fixed for about a week and just didn't like it. Quite often I'm parked in one direction and I want the hoses facing the other way; so I lift them out and point them that way.
Occasionally, for awkward corners or multiple cars in the way, I'll unhitch the hose reel from the van and carry it beyond the obstacles, unreel the hose and then carry what's left on the reel back to the van and hitch it up.
When your hose reel is fixed, it seems like a lot of fannying about to me.
Luckily enough I don't find lifting a hose reel a problem.
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Dazmond after 6 months on the electric reel ;D
;D ;D ;D
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These injury's and aches etc do happen over many years. Mine must be down to the 15 years I spent in a warehouse doing manual labour lifting far too much incorrectly day after day.
I have a lower back problem that flares up from time to time. Everyday window cleaning doesn't bother it but if I've been using the gutter vac for the day or bent over pressure washing it will set it off. Same with bending over with a manual Reel or humping the backpack about.
There's no telling daz, he is too stubborn , he said extreme poles were the only thing he's use, now it's slx. Form hot water to cold back to hot. Mark my words he will come on here showing his love for leccy reels one day.
my xtreme poles were great until i snapped 3 sections in normal use.too brittle for me plus they wear out very quickly too.i still use an xtreme 47 for high level work but yes my regular day to day pole is an SLX.far more robust and tough...
i went back to cold because i nearly set my new van on fire when i had a gas leak,i then tried to convince myself that cold water was as good as hot....its not ......hence buying a decent professional and safe diesel heater....
im not ruling out an electric reel in the future but i dont feel the need to buy one at the moment as i dont find reeling in hard work and im not constantly reeling in 10-15 times a day.....i also dont use a gutter vac or do pressure washing....
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These injury's and aches etc do happen over many years. Mine must be down to the 15 years I spent in a warehouse doing manual labour lifting far too much incorrectly day after day.
I have a lower back problem that flares up from time to time. Everyday window cleaning doesn't bother it but if I've been using the gutter vac for the day or bent over pressure washing it will set it off. Same with bending over with a manual Reel or humping the backpack about.
There's no telling daz, he is too stubborn , he said extreme poles were the only thing he's use, now it's slx. Form hot water to cold back to hot. Mark my words he will come on here showing his love for leccy reels one day.
my xtreme poles were great until i snapped 3 sections in normal use.too brittle for me plus they wear out very quickly too.i still use an xtreme 47 for high level work but yes my regular day to day pole is an SLX.far more robust and tough...
i went back to cold because i nearly set my new van on fire when i had a gas leak,i then tried to convince myself that cold water was as good as hot....its not ......hence buying a decent professional and safe diesel heater....
im not ruling out an electric reel in the future but i dont feel the need to buy one at the moment as i dont find reeling in hard work and im not constantly reeling in 10-15 times a day.....i also dont use a gutter vac or do pressure washing....
Tried to convince myself that cold was as good as hot, you couldn't make it up. lol.
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Actually it was my Mrs that said surely if it’s going to make your day easier get 1 when I was being tight about parting with the 600 odd notes 😂,anything for work that’ll make your day easier is not a waste of money end of. 3 things needed to make your day a pleasure and that’s Hot Water Electric reel and an Extreme selection of poles,sometimes it doesn’t feel like work walking round colouring in Windows with the old cans over the ear holes 😂
have you got the energy to do 3 heavy sessions in the gym weight training every week for an hour at a time? plus 20 mins of cardio 3 times a week?3 hours of drumming with a rock/pop band,walk the dog for at least 2 hours a week as well as window cleaning 4 or 5 days a week? ;D
i do and thats with manually reeling in every day....... :)
M8 I used to be down the gym 5 nights a week reeling hose in is not about strength it’s a repetitive movement that will give you a bad back and shoulder over time,don’t just take it from me just keep reeling in by hand and you’ll find out for yourself in a few years. If I was still on the sustanon dinabol and growth hormone I wouldn’t have felt it but I wasn’t 😂
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i dont take steroids and never would mate......and i wouldnt train 5 days a week,thats just stupid..... ;D
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Actually it was my Mrs that said surely if it’s going to make your day easier get 1 when I was being tight about parting with the 600 odd notes 😂,anything for work that’ll make your day easier is not a waste of money end of. 3 things needed to make your day a pleasure and that’s Hot Water Electric reel and an Extreme selection of poles,sometimes it doesn’t feel like work walking round colouring in Windows with the old cans over the ear holes 😂
have you got the energy to do 3 heavy sessions in the gym weight training every week for an hour at a time? plus 20 mins of cardio 3 times a week?3 hours of drumming with a rock/pop band,walk the dog for at least 2 hours a week as well as window cleaning 4 or 5 days a week? ;D
i do and thats with manually reeling in every day....... :)
M8 I used to be down the gym 5 nights a week reeling hose in is not about strength it’s a repetitive movement that will give you a bad back and shoulder over time,don’t just take it from me just keep reeling in by hand and you’ll find out for yourself in a few years. If I was still on the sustanon dinabol and growth hormone I wouldn’t have felt it but I wasn’t 😂
That’s one hell of a stack...
Most chaps that stack like that are pretty serious about it, so what made you stop going 5 times a week?
(Never done gear to be fair, but I know plenty that have and still do...)
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i dont take steroids and never would mate......and i wouldnt train 5 days a week,thats just stupid..... ;D
Depends on your workout.
Muscle isolation then you’re probably ok; I used to prefer 5x5 for bulk so I’d usually stick to 3 days though in fairness.
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Not if your training smart , 5 days a week is easy if your not going flat out I could be doing yoga or kettle bells but if tired focusing on mobility, go with what you feel like
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Not if your training smart , 5 days a week is easy if your not going flat out I could be doing yoga or kettle bells but if tired focusing on mobility, go with what you feel like
for me 3 hard weight training sessions a week is enough (60 mins each session)plus 20 mins of cardio after these sessions....
i dont include stretching/yoga as i gym session as i do these most days at home either in the morning when i get up or in the evening for 10-15 mins.....
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Ahhh that’s why you train a long time when i strength train it’s only 20 mins lol
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I was serious training low reps heavy as you can manage to complete exhaustion,we would do chest all at once just exhausting the muscle,we would do 4 plates either side and drop a 20kilo plate off till we were left with the bar. We trained every muscle like this it’s the way to build mass,then calf’s with chest and that was it the complete workout used to take individually about 15-20 minutes calf’s and chest then on the bike for 30 minutes
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90% of people in the gym are doing diddly they are there to look at the crumpet,some blokes are down the gym for years and are no leaner or bigger if you exhaust the muscle you are training properly Daz you’d have have a job pressing a button on an electric reel m8 lol it seriously hurts. If you see a lean man start training and he gets stretch marks he’s juiced his muscles are out growing his skin to quickly for his skin to adjust,dead give away.
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i work my muscles hard but not so cant go to work the next day mate!i dont see the point as ive put on a fair bit of muscle over the last 2 years without having to annihilate the muscles being worked....i dont really want to get any bigger now so its just keeping what ive got and adding a little here and there.... :)
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I was serious training low reps heavy as you can manage to complete exhaustion,we would do chest all at once just exhausting the muscle,we would do 4 plates either side and drop a 20kilo plate off till we were left with the bar. We trained every muscle like this it’s the way to build mass,then calf’s with chest and that was it the complete workout used to take individually about 15-20 minutes calf’s and chest then on the bike for 30 minutes
I did 4 plates a side once, was scary! was doing a gram of test a week though, felt like superman on berroca.
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90% of people in the gym are doing diddly they are there to look at the crumpet,some blokes are down the gym for years and are no leaner or bigger if you exhaust the muscle you are training properly Daz you’d have have a job pressing a button on an electric reel m8 lol it seriously hurts. If you see a lean man start training and he gets stretch marks he’s juiced his muscles are out growing his skin to quickly for his skin to adjust,dead give away.
I remember doing a bill star 5x5 routine back in the day, 5 compound movements 3x per week.
If you pushed hard you were in agony the next day, I cant train to failure anymore as I wont recover.
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I never work to exhaustion I’m never sore i use lifting weights to supplement my jujitsu, i look for the perfect match where in a roll are use no strength whatsoever just frames and techniques, I use strength as a tool if I need it ; I just make sure it’s not my only one ;-) my weightlifting is more to keep my body in alignment than anything else I focus only on size to strength ratio ie being as small as possible yet strong . I do understand wanting to look big and strong I’ve done it myself I was 100kg at 22 yr old and it was fun , I do see the attraction
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What a bunch o girlies !
I usually do 6 plates on each side , first the dinner plates then i wash the side plates , then warm down on the cutlery ;D ;D ;D
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There's some chest puffing going on here tonight!! ;D
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Peacocking! they call it nowadays.
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i work my muscles hard but not so cant go to work the next day mate!i dont see the point as ive put on a fair bit of muscle over the last 2 years without having to annihilate the muscles being worked....i dont really want to get any bigger now so its just keeping what ive got and adding a little here and there.... :)
The m00bs, mate, you need to get rid of the m00bs.
It's no good being big enough to lift a car, but with a big wobbly set of m00bs on you. That and being defeated by a flight of stairs. ;D
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I never work to exhaustion I’m never sore i use lifting weights to supplement my jujitsu,
What do you mean 'work to exhaustion'? Do you mean you don't lift to failure?
I find if I work a muscle group twice a week on the weights, I don't get DOMs, but with my legs, which only get worked once a week on the weights, they're really sore for a couple of days after. My arse in particular; it's like someone's injected my gluts with concrete right now from dead lifts and weighted walking lunges.
But running is my primary focus, so I can't work the legs with weights twice a week.
Maybe it's my age (I'm 48)? I haven't gotten middle-aged before, so I'm unsure.
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Don’t worry about getting to big Daz people get confused about going to the gym and getting big,you will not get big lifting weights you will get lean,you only get big through diet and the correct amount of steroids for your body weight 6 weeks on 6 weeks off the training part is 15-20% of the results you see walking around with no necks 😂. To become big and lean is not possible without drugs ,they are more abused now than they were in the 90s.
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Don’t worry about getting to big Daz people get confused about going to the gym and getting big,you will not get big lifting weights you will get lean,you only get big through diet and the correct amount of steroids for your body weight 6 weeks on 6 weeks off the training part is 15-20% of the results you see walking around with no necks 😂. To become big and lean is not possible without drugs ,they are more abused now than they were in the 90s.
Reminds me a couple of yrs back, me n a mate using a local gym. My buddy was new to the gym scene and there was a small dude who we saw often. Well within 6mnths or so, this small chap was now quite defined and much bigger. My mate said bet he comes in every day ::)roll. No buddy, hes getting under the counter help to ballon up.
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Don’t worry about getting to big Daz people get confused about going to the gym and getting big,you will not get big lifting weights you will get lean,you only get big through diet and the correct amount of steroids for your body weight 6 weeks on 6 weeks off the training part is 15-20% of the results you see walking around with no necks 😂. To become big and lean is not possible without drugs ,they are more abused now than they were in the 90s.
you ve obviously not seen the size of me mate..im 6ft 2in and 250lb.i dont need to get any bigger and ive never took a steroid in my life...
you will not get big lifting weights without steroids?what a load of rubbish.....hard training over a few years and eating mainly proper wholesome foods (and very little supplements) has worked for me nigel......
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agreed Daz, you wanna get big eat more, you might not be able to get AS big as Ronnie Coleman, but why would you want to, functional fitness is where its at!
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Tosh, i worded it badly, I mean ill never work to have Doms the next day as ill be training and it effects my rolls, the same as if you have sore legs before running :-)
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lazy git....how old are you?35?or 85?
i honestly dont have a problem reeling in with a fixed manual reel.mines a cox reel and its virtually effortless.....
I cant believe you dont have a leccy reel daz, you have a brand new van and hot water to make your life as easy as possible and one item that does make a noticaeble difference is a leccy reel. And you dont have one :o
i dont have a problem with reeling in mate...no shoulder problems,no weak arms,no neck problems.i dont find it hard work....if anything it gives a short cardio benefit which is a good thing IMO.....
Daz, I’m 29, in good shape, fit and healthy, but that’s not the reason I got an electric reel, the reason for me was I want to spend the least amount of time at work as possible and the least amount of energy - so I can have more time and energy in the gym/cycling.
It’s completely non essential, granted, but for me I couldn’t ever go back to manual reeling, not because of fitness or muscle issues, but because electric is so much faster and more efficient for both work, body and time.
Try one, you’ll love it ;D
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Since when does it become a discussion of how fit a person is for them to have or not have an electric reel.
When someone says:
your body is bound to have wear and tear from repetitive movements
Tosh,
Repetitive strain is well documented surely? Office workers can often get carpel tunnel or bad wrists from typing all day, that’s one end of the spectrum for rsi.
For us, doing the exact same movements day in and day out is bound to take its toll.
I agree the body needs worked, and a seditary life style isn’t good. The best balance would be physical exercise, and the easiest and lightest work day as possible. Work isn’t really exercise, yes it burns some calories, but it’s not exertion, just wear and tear.
Have a look at someone has done manual work there whole life, there knees, elbows, backs are usually in a real state.
Was talking to the carpet fitter last week, (had new carpet fitted in spare room) and he was saying all the fitters are shot to bits. There knees, fingers and lower backs. Most retire in there 50’s because they just can’t carry on.
Same with some builders, a lot of them suffer from wear and tear.
Then there’s someone like my dad, 60, in good health and shape, but didn’t have a manual job. Though he did train in be gym most of his life and was a bit of a fitness fanatic. This has kept him healthy. Had he been a carpet fitter, I’m sure he’d be suffering in some way from RSI.
So I tend to agree, certain jobs aren’t really beneficial for mobility, they cause strain.
I’m now stretching daily to keep limber, and having a sports massage monthly for the back. I think we need to look after our muscles in this type of work, keeping on top of the niggles is key.
I do also agree with tosh, running is actually good for you, but probably not so helpful if your a carpet fitter as well :o
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Running is fantastic humans are one of the only animals that would never need to stop they can run/walk forever , road running can he hard on the knees and you must not be heel striking etc I agree though tosh and he wife are evidence of the benefits of running
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agreed Daz, you wanna get big eat more, you might not be able to get AS big as Ronnie Coleman, but why would you want to, functional fitness is where its at!
who wants to look like guys like ronnie coleman?not me!in fact any of the pro bodybuilders.they are all freaks blown up on juice....
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Running is fantastic humans are one of the only animals that would never need to stop they can run/walk forever , road running can he hard on the knees and you must not be heel striking etc I agree though tosh and he wife are evidence of the benefits of running
i hate running,always have.im not built for running!i prefer cycling,swimming and brisk walking.......i think tosh and his missus are crazy.i dont get it... ;D
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Peacocking! they call it nowadays.
Mirror queens.
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agreed Daz, you wanna get big eat more, you might not be able to get AS big as Ronnie Coleman, but why would you want to, functional fitness is where its at!
Being as big as Ronnie Coleman isn’t a good thing long term ...
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1520680393_B2F5E229-1002-44D5-9752-77BB2E734916.png)
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Look at poor old ronnies wrists that’s human growth hormone for you lol
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Look at poor old ronnies wrists that’s human growth hormone for you lol
He’s worth 10 million dollars but he’s falling to bits now, shame , he used to be my idol !
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NO amount of money is any good to him now his liver and kidneys have probably had it and his heart will be 2-3 times the size it should be,the hearts a muscle steroids will make it grow just like every other muscle. I had a look a couple of years ago at some that were around in the 90s,I couldn’t believe how many had died it was shocking to read.
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. I had a look a couple of years ago at some that were around in the 90s,I couldn’t believe how many had died it was shocking to read.
My old gym was a proper meat head gym where the serious lifters go. The auld guy who ran it has been into bodybuilding since the early 80s and has judged at many competitions all over the world.
He discourages the use of 'juice' at his gym because he says it affects the gym's atmosphere.
But like you say, he lists plenty he's known, and trained, including women, who're now dead. He'll even give a guided tour, pointing at the old photos on the wall, of who is dead. He says they look healthy on the outside, but not on the inside.
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I've got a mate who has had a lot of lower back problems and he's had an xray and he's found out he's got a herniated lower disc.
He blames his navy days for that, steel decks, climbing vertical ladders and rugby.
But the thing is, he's been out of the navy for at least fifteen years; maybe longer.
He's overweight and google tells me that's the cause.
This kind of denial isn't just limited to alkies. ;D
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There is a guy who was telling me about how he can bench press 200kg.
Next he's saying how he can only bench 180kg now and that's because of using wfp thats too heavy????
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There is a guy who was telling me about how he can bench press 200kg.
Next he's saying how he can only bench 180kg now and that's because of using wfp thats too heavy????
i couldnt give a toss how much weight a guy can bench press (or squat for that matter).i never have and never will.i dont do bench press anyway.....dumbbell press only for me for chest....i get a better range of motion and its better for the shoulders long term.... :).
i dont do squats either........ ;D
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There is a guy who was telling me about how he can bench press 200kg.
Next he's saying how he can only bench 180kg now and that's because of using wfp thats too heavy????
i couldnt give a toss how much weight a guy can bench press (or squat for that matter).i never have and never will.i dont do bench press anyway.....dumbbell press only for me for chest....i get a better range of motion and its better for the shoulders long term.... :).
i dont do diddly squat either........ ;D
FTFY
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There is a guy who was telling me about how he can bench press 200kg.
Next he's saying how he can only bench 180kg now and that's because of using wfp thats too heavy????
i couldnt give a toss how much weight a guy can bench press (or squat for that matter).i never have and never will.i dont do bench press anyway.....dumbbell press only for me for chest....i get a better range of motion and its better for the shoulders long term.... :).
i dont do diddly squat either........ ;D
FTFY
;D ;D ;D
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Barbell training is at the very core of proper strength training and bodybuilding. And if your not gauging your lifts how do you know where you progressing?
Once you get past your newbie gains and plateau (everyone does) then you will have to start taking your routines and exercise selection seriously in order to keep progressing.
I remember my first couple of years it was amazing, I grew from anything. After that, things start getting tougher.
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Barbell training is at the very core of proper strength training and bodybuilding. And if your not gauging your lifts how do you know where you progressing?
Once you get past your newbie gains and plateau (everyone does) then you will have to start taking your routines and exercise selection seriously in order to keep progressing.
I remember my first couple of years it was amazing, I grew from anything. After that, things start getting tougher.
i dont want to get any bigger mate..im already 6ft 2in and 250lb(most of it muscle).i dont have to lift stupidly heavy weights to grow muscle.i never have....
also i was into weight training in my teens and early twenties and muscles never forget(muscle memory)so its been fairly easy to build up again....i am surprised a bit though as i thought i was past it a few years ago but obviously not(even at 46).
you can build muscle just using machines,your bodyweight or just dumbbells you dont have to use a barbell......and you certainly dont have to bench press with a barbell to build up your chest.its not good for your shoulders lifting heavy either long term,no need....
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i dont do squats either........ ;D
Why don't you do squats?
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When my boy was born 5 years ago I was the same weight as you at the same height and I was huge, mantank they used to call me at the gym. Was seriously strong as well. So I can imagine how big you are mate. I am now 3 stone lighter and much more athletic type build. I feel much happier like this at 205lbs, soon I'll be around 195lbs.
I can move around much easier and now I'm kickboxing again Its much better for me being lighter. My work days are much easier too.
I was "boosting" at the time to reach that size so you must be naturally a big dude.
More power to you mate!
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Once you get past your newbie gains and plateau (everyone does) then you will have to start taking your routines and exercise selection seriously in order to keep progressing.
The principle behind that is the same for most things I think.
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i dont do squats either........ ;D
Why don't you do squats?
Because squats, deadlifts and barbell exercises are often neglected by people due to the nature of them --Hard to do!!!
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Once you get past your newbie gains and plateau (everyone does) then you will have to start taking your routines and exercise selection seriously in order to keep progressing.
The principle behind that is the same for most things I think.
Can tell your no spring chicken! Would swap wisdom for youth any day.
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i dont do squats either........ ;D
Why don't you do squats?
well i do but not with a barbell on my back/shoulders....i have a dodgy knee from 17 years climbing ladders and playing football when i was younger.also its easy to put your back out so i do bodyweight and dumbbell squats instead....
some exercises are not suitable for some of us........esp as we get older.....
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i dont do squats either........ ;D
Why don't you do squats?
Because squats, deadlifts and barbell exercises are often neglected by people due to the nature of them --Hard to do!!!
i use a barbell for military presses/deadlifts and curls.......
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;D ;D
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I'm starting to do front squats now; apparently they're meant to make any weaknesses more apparent. I'm just getting used to the exercise, so going easy right now. Wednesday is my 'leg day', but it kills my legs for speed, which is on a Thursday, so I don't go overboard; I try to keep the weight heavy and reps low; three sets only. Low volume.
But there's no good day to do weights on your legs when you run regularly.
I'm a fan of dumb bell walking lunges; that really seems to help with running hills.
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I'm starting to do front squats now; apparently they're meant to make any weaknesses more apparent. I'm just getting used to the exercise, so going easy right now. Wednesday is my 'leg day', but it kills my legs for speed, which is on a Thursday, so I don't go overboard; I try to keep the weight heavy and reps low; three sets only. Low volume.
But there's no good day to do weights on your legs when you run regularly.
I'm a fan of dumb bell walking lunges; that really seems to help with running hills.
leg day for me today too tosh....but i dont do running.i dont know how you can as the next day after a workout my legs are sore and the day after that their even worse!i only train my legs once a week too(the other 2 sessions are upper body)
ill do 3 sets of dumbbell squats,3 sets of dumbbell (or barbell) deadlifts,3 sets of leg press,3 sets of leg extensions,3 sets of leg curls,at least 6 sets of 12-15 reps for my calves,some extra shoulder work,abs and 15-20 mins cardio.....my sets for legs are usually in the 10-15 rep range.i cant do lunges as it hurts my right knee so i avoid them......
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Hi reps low weight is a waste of time unless your training for a show your muscles will not respond to that at all,if you want definition or any change in muscle shape you have to train to failure. Have you heard the expression no pain no gain,it’s never a truer philosophy in bodybuilding or anything to do with using weights. You may as well go down there and stare at the crumpet at least then 1 muscle will be being flexed 😂
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If you want to keep fit go on the bike or cross trainer you’ll lose weight and make your muscles look bigger but that’s all they will do look bigger. If you’ve done your legs properly to failure you shouldn’t be able to walk properly until the lactic acid drains from them,barbell squats 😂,Daz you should try yoga.
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Hi reps low weight is a waste of time unless your training for a show your muscles will not respond to that at all,if you want definition or any change in muscle shape you have to train to failure. Have you heard the expression no pain no gain,it’s never a truer philosophy in bodybuilding or anything to do with using weights. You may as well go down there and stare at the crumpet at least then 1 muscle will be being flexed 😂
Never follow ‘no pain , no gain’ ...... instead you should ‘feel the burn !!’
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I'm starting to do front squats now; apparently they're meant to make any weaknesses more apparent. I'm just getting used to the exercise, so going easy right now. Wednesday is my 'leg day', but it kills my legs for speed, which is on a Thursday, so I don't go overboard; I try to keep the weight heavy and reps low; three sets only. Low volume.
But there's no good day to do weights on your legs when you run regularly.
I'm a fan of dumb bell walking lunges; that really seems to help with running hills.
leg day for me today too tosh....but i dont do running.i dont know how you can as the next day after a workout my legs are sore and the day after that their even worse!i only train my legs once a week too(the other 2 sessions are upper body)
ill do 3 sets of dumbbell squats,3 sets of dumbbell (or barbell) deadlifts,3 sets of leg press,3 sets of leg extensions,3 sets of leg curls,at least 6 sets of 12-15 reps for my calves,some extra shoulder work,abs and 15-20 mins cardio.....my sets for legs are usually in the 10-15 rep range.i cant do lunges as it hurts my right knee so i avoid them......
That's an awful lot of volume daz, how's your recovery?
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Hi reps low weight is a waste of time unless your training for a show your muscles will not respond to that at all,if you want definition or any change in muscle shape you have to train to failure. Have you heard the expression no pain no gain,it’s never a truer philosophy in bodybuilding or anything to do with using weights. You may as well go down there and stare at the crumpet at least then 1 muscle will be being flexed 😂
you really do talk some rubbish at times nigel.....theres no right or wrong way......i do train to failure.i find my legs respond better with higher reps.....
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I'm starting to do front squats now; apparently they're meant to make any weaknesses more apparent. I'm just getting used to the exercise, so going easy right now. Wednesday is my 'leg day', but it kills my legs for speed, which is on a Thursday, so I don't go overboard; I try to keep the weight heavy and reps low; three sets only. Low volume.
But there's no good day to do weights on your legs when you run regularly.
I'm a fan of dumb bell walking lunges; that really seems to help with running hills.
leg day for me today too tosh....but i dont do running.i dont know how you can as the next day after a workout my legs are sore and the day after that their even worse!i only train my legs once a week too(the other 2 sessions are upper body)
ill do 3 sets of dumbbell squats,3 sets of dumbbell (or barbell) deadlifts,3 sets of leg press,3 sets of leg extensions,3 sets of leg curls,at least 6 sets of 12-15 reps for my calves,some extra shoulder work,abs and 15-20 mins cardio.....my sets for legs are usually in the 10-15 rep range.i cant do lunges as it hurts my right knee so i avoid them......
That's an awful lot of volume daz, how's your recovery?
i only work out 3 times a week mate (usually)......i dont think my volume is excessive.....
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If you want to keep fit go on the bike or cross trainer you’ll lose weight and make your muscles look bigger but that’s all they will do look bigger. If you’ve done your legs properly to failure you shouldn’t be able to walk properly until the lactic acid drains from them,barbell squats 😂,Daz you should try yoga.
why would anyone want to train their legs that hard they cant walk properly?its pathetic if you ask me..... ;D
my legs are usually sore for a few days after a workout but i can still walk and go about my daily business/work etc....
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What do you guys think of this (since it's turned into a weight lifting post):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_m0sdG2DI4
It's full body workouts versus splits; it basically reckons that people on 'gear' respond better to splits, whereas those who aren't respond better to full body workouts.
It also has a take on going to failure that's contrary to my own. I generally go to failure, as in proper failure, and might cheat or be assisted with the last rep. I might even take a 'rest pause' (a five second rest) to do another rep or two.
But they reckon it's better to just go to failure and not push beyond what you can do yourself, using proper form.
Thoughts?
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interesting that tosh.......ive decided to have a week off the gym til next monday.....ive noticed ive been getting weaker in the gym lately and my right knee has flared up again as well as my left ankle(torn ligaments a few year ago)......
sometimes you gotta take a break to recover fully and gain strength back....
i think ill switch it up from monday and go back to 3 full body workouts a week and cut the volume and give it 2 months and see how i go on....
cheers for the video tosh....
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GOD - how has these become such a boring gym thread. NEVER been in a friggin Gym in my life and I never will.
Get fit with graft and earn money doing it instead of paying gym membership. ;D ;D ;D
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What do you guys think of this (since it's turned into a weight lifting post):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_m0sdG2DI4
It's full body workouts versus splits; it basically reckons that people on 'gear' respond better to splits, whereas those who aren't respond better to full body workouts.
It also has a take on going to failure that's contrary to my own. I generally go to failure, as in proper failure, and might cheat or be assisted with the last rep. I might even take a 'rest pause' (a five second rest) to do another rep or two.
But they reckon it's better to just go to failure and not push beyond what you can do yourself, using proper form.
Thoughts?
Going to failure will destroy your recovery, I can personally vouch for that as I have been there and done it.
"grinder" reps where you are struggling like mad and shaking and barely get the rep are bad for you as a natural, steroids enhance your recovery ability so you can train as much as you like and be recovered for the next day. As a natural you need longer to recover.
Lower reps are aimed at building muscle through strength gains, the type of muscle that will stay with you even after a layoff whereas higher rep training is pumping your muscles up and will quickly disappear when you stop training.
Higher reps have never done anything for me, lower reps have always worked.
Look up eric helms and team 3dj who have done modern research on natural trainees. These guys are on the ball and well respected in they're field.
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What do you guys think of this (since it's turned into a weight lifting post):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_m0sdG2DI4
It's full body workouts versus splits; it basically reckons that people on 'gear' respond better to splits, whereas those who aren't respond better to full body workouts.
It also has a take on going to failure that's contrary to my own. I generally go to failure, as in proper failure, and might cheat or be assisted with the last rep. I might even take a 'rest pause' (a five second rest) to do another rep or two.
But they reckon it's better to just go to failure and not push beyond what you can do yourself, using proper form.
Thoughts?
Watched the first few mins.
I’ve always followed similar. 5x5 work out 3 days a week to build, spilts to ‘tone out’.
5x5 is basically full body, and your last rep of the 25 will be your failure rep if you’ve judged it properly.
It means you can do the work out 3 times a week and you should be able to quickly start lifting heavier as your muscles should start to respond to the heavier weights as you’re repeatedly working them.
If you train to ‘proper’ failure, you wont move for the next few days. And if you stop due to injury etc...you’ll lose the ‘strength’ quicker in my experiance.
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I am in awe of all you guys, I have a little fat belly and i'm proud of it!
About a year ago, I got diagnosed with Coeliac disease. Basically, this means that I could never get the nourishment from my food properly, so I could never put on weight. As a child, I was skinny and as a teenager I went to the gym. I could never hit above 9.5stone. I had muscle (but 9.5 stone) and everyone told me what I should be eating. I ate everything and in the end, people used to take the p and say I should just eat lard! I started drinking 4 pints of guinness every night to help put weight on, but nothing.
I always put my slim build down to stress, so I left it at that. I went up to about 10 stone in mid life and about 2 years ago (age 52) I went down to 9.5 stone and my missus started to worry. I was fricken bone! After a trip to the hospital and a camera down my throat, I got diagnosed with Coeliac disease. (Simply...don't eat gluten). Yes I am 'Gluten Free'. Apparently it's fashionable!
Now, I am up to 12 stone...Yay!!! I have work trousers, that I used to hold up with braces (because a belt became useless) that now, I have to undo the top button to put them on. I have a little belly, never had one before!
So guys, try and be happy with, 'where you're at' and would I consider an electric reel? I think I might put it on my list. ;D
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Being happy with "where you're at" could never be for me.
Progress =happiness for me.
Staying put while everyone else moves forward=going backward.
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every time i start to lose motivation for working out in the gym and start to lose strength i take a complete week off from lifting.ill still eat roughly the same food and do my yoga stretching,walking etc.....i dont lose any muscle whatsoever.it would take 3 or 4 weeks of doing nothing to start to lose muscle....
..ive also changed my attitude (to not beat myself up when i do take a break)....its necessary if i want to carry on progressing.
as for training splits/full body workouts etc,etc.i think they all work.the key i think is training intensity and focus when your actually working out.how many guys/gals in your local gym have intensity and focus during their hour long workouts?...not many.....most are constantly distracted by their smartphones/ipods.(i never take my phone in the gym by the way)
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Thought this was a thread about electric reels making life easier not a work out routine at the gym ???
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also when i take a break i usually feel much better when im back in the gym the following week,i also change my workout routine a bit to freshen things up a bit.....
its a learning curve.....we all become are own personal trainer given enough time and experience......
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Thought this was a thread about electric reels making life easier not a work out routine at the gym ???
nope...we ve sacked that off now mate...this is a bodybuilding thread now so bugger off! ;D ;D ;D
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GOD - how has these become such a boring gym thread. NEVER been in a friggin Gym in my life and I never will.
Get fit with graft and earn money doing it instead of paying gym membership. ;D ;D ;D
You don't know what you're missing.