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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Slacky on March 04, 2018, 11:29:48 pm
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Seems quite a few people have major health scares in their life, I thought I was the only one. So what health concerns have you all had.
I had a brain haemorrhage when I was 28. My dad had one when he was 32 which killed him.
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Being a carpet cleaner doesn’t count.
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I was born with a pulmonary valve stenosis (narrowing or defect of the heart valve that supplies the lungs with oxygen)
I'm lucky in that I've never need an operation but needs constant monitoring and am unlucky that I almost certainly will need an operation at some point.
The down side is my grandad on my dad's side died from heart attack at 58, my dad had a heart attack at 53, his sister has just had open heart surgery in her early 60s my younger brother also was born with heart problems and has a pacemaker and valve replacement.
So It's almost a certainty that I will die of heart failure before I'm too old .
At least I know how I'm likely to go!
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I've had a number of health issues though my life, some of them self-inflicted, but I am currently in decent health.
However, I do have an elephant in my living room.
My mother had type 2 diabetes and my only two full siblings both have it. My uncle (mother's brother) had it too.
I'm overweight and 60 so my clock is ticking.
To possibly stave it off for longer, I suppose I need to lose weight. A sedentary lifestyle can bring it on sooner, so maybe I have window cleaning to thank for not succumbing already.
Statistically, male offspring of female sufferer has a 40% higher chance of getting diabetes. This increases about 10% if any siblings have it. So my odds are about 50-60% of it coming my way. Hardly a foregone conclusion, but time to start increasing the odds in my favour. I should have done this before, but wasn't aware of the stats until recently.
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I have been diagnosed with low testosterone and have just put the treatment off again (been doing this for 4 years) as its life long and comes with complications that can be fatal.
I don't feel too bad as I am (I keep telling myself) but it scares the poop out of me. Its basically low dose steroids which is bad for the heart, also low testosterone comes with some nasty diseases so I'm goosed either way.
Also health anxiety (disease of the mind) horrid.
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I have been diagnosed with low testosterone and have just put the treatment off again (been doing this for 4 years) as its life long and comes with complications that can be fatal.
I don't feel too bad as I am (I keep telling myself) but it scares the poop out of me. Its basically low dose steroids which is bad for the heart, also low testosterone comes with some nasty diseases so I'm goosed either way.
Also health anxiety (disease of the mind) horrid.
I went through a stage of health anxiety.
I've always had a history of depression and anxiety anyway but for a good few years I was really bad. Anxiety and panic attacks can mimic heart attack symptoms. Sweating, cheat pains, nausea etc and because I have a heart problem I was convinced for many a year that I was about to die any minute.
Any type of anxiety is the same, health, social, or just general etc . It's truly a horrible affliction as it's all in the mind but the kind affects the body then the body feeds the mind.
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What a lovely window cleaning topic of good cheer this is
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atrial fibrillation of the heart....been rushed to hospital twice now(in my early 30s) and they ve done every test you can have for the heart(echocardiogram etc)and couldnt find anything wrong.......not had any episodes in 12 years now....i do look after myself these days though.....
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I have pretty much what Adam has except my heart valve is enlarged not narrowed , it was only found 3 years ago but i have had it since birth and not known it , this is what caused me to have the stroke 3 years ago , small pieces of the valve break off and enter the bloodstream , this is what happened , a piece got lodged in my brain and caused a clot which led to the stroke .
I will need surgery once the valve gets 5mm bigger they reckon .
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As Nathan said very cheerful topic
But I think being out in the open window cleaning helps
Good luck to everyone and good health
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I’ve got Coeliac disease which means I can’t eat; wheat, barley, rye or oats. Not that serious in the scheme of things, unless a custie slips me a digestive to have with my tea! :P
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I have to say that I am very fortunate to be have always been in excellent health.
I had a full health check a couple of years ago. I was drinking lots of Lucozade and eating chocolate bars, and peeing a lot too! My wife was worried about me and insisted that I get checked out, particularly for diabetes. The doctor found nothing wrong with me at all (no surprise to me, I felt fine anyway)
I'm 56 next month, still on ladders, and apart from being slow (I pace myself very carefully) if I continue feeling the way I do now I've hopefully got many more years left in me.
John
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I have pretty much what Adam has except my heart valve is enlarged not narrowed , it was only found 3 years ago but i have had it since birth and not known it , this is what caused me to have the stroke 3 years ago , small pieces of the valve break off and enter the bloodstream , this is what happened , a piece got lodged in my brain and caused a clot which led to the stroke .
I will need surgery once the valve gets 5mm bigger they reckon .
That's the problem. A lot of time these don't get picked up at birth and you only find out when it's too late.
My auntie was the same only found 2 years ago and needs a replacement valve.
Mine was found at birth but the problem I have now was only noticed 5 years ago.
At birth I had a heart murmur caused by an atrial septal defect (hole in the heart) however I was discharged at 18 as it had healed over. It wasn't until a panic attack episode a few years ago when they found the valve problem.
Apparently mines moderate which means it's ok but I need a checkup every year as if it leaks much more they would need to operate.
Mines a narrowing and leaking btw the valve doesn't close fully which can cause pressure to build up in the heart chamber which would enlarge the heart and be fatal if eventually.
So yeh good fun
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I suffer with depresion, health anxiety and panic attacks. I go through stages of these being very bad that can last for 6 months to a year at a time then I will be ok for a year or 2 then it comes back. Im about 8 months into the latest episode of this right now. Bad one this time round. No idea what causes it, just have to take each day at a time. I never said this before on here but it has been a major reason I wanted to grow my business and remove myself from generating the money or running the office. i didnt want my propblems to damage the business or my income. January was so bad I hardly left the house for a month.
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I suffer with depresion, health anxiety and panic attacks. I go through stages of these being very bad that can last for 6 months to a year at a time then I will be ok for a year or 2 then it comes back. Im about 8 months into the latest episode of this right now. Bad one this time round. No idea what causes it, just have to take each day at a time. I never said this before on here but it has been a major reason I wanted to grow my business and remove myself from generating the money or running the office. i didnt want my propblems to damage the business or my income. January was so bad I hardly left the house for a month.
Thats interesting Lee. Thankyou.
Have you had counselling at any time for this? I've had health anxiety issues, quite debilitating in themselves when they were at their worse.
Have these got anything to do with unresolved grief revolving round your fathers premature death?
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Had part of my stomach removed .a double hernia opp,an hiatus hernia repair my appendix out .suffer from stress anxiety depression. Diverticular that lumps on my colon anything else oh yes and I'm asthmatic. But I still keep going not like young teenagers who get sniffles and you don't see them for a month 😁
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I suffer with depresion, health anxiety and panic attacks. I go through stages of these being very bad that can last for 6 months to a year at a time then I will be ok for a year or 2 then it comes back. Im about 8 months into the latest episode of this right now. Bad one this time round. No idea what causes it, just have to take each day at a time. I never said this before on here but it has been a major reason I wanted to grow my business and remove myself from generating the money or running the office. i didnt want my propblems to damage the business or my income. January was so bad I hardly left the house for a month.
Thats interesting Lee. Thankyou.
Have you had counselling at any time for this? I've had health anxiety issues, quite debilitating in themselves when they were at their worse.
Have these got anything to do with unresolved grief revolving round your fathers premature death?
When I was in my early 20s a friend of the same age dropped dead one sunday afternoon playing football of a heart attack. After that I became obsessed that something was wrong with me ect. I have a highly strung nature anyway so that and other things, like my dad dying in his early 40s of cancer just sent me into a spiral. Things go through my mind on a daily basis that just wouldnt occur to most people. Such as dropping dead alone at home or thinking about passing out in a que in the supper market and so on.
Over the years I tried counselling, hypnothreapy, ani depressants, cbt, all sorts. Nothing helps. I found that a clean diet, excersie, ect helped better than other things.
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I suffer with depresion, health anxiety and panic attacks. I go through stages of these being very bad that can last for 6 months to a year at a time then I will be ok for a year or 2 then it comes back. Im about 8 months into the latest episode of this right now. Bad one this time round. No idea what causes it, just have to take each day at a time. I never said this before on here but it has been a major reason I wanted to grow my business and remove myself from generating the money or running the office. i didnt want my propblems to damage the business or my income. January was so bad I hardly left the house for a month.
Thats interesting Lee. Thankyou.
Have you had counselling at any time for this? I've had health anxiety issues, quite debilitating in themselves when they were at their worse.
Have these got anything to do with unresolved grief revolving round your fathers premature death?
When I was in my early 20s a friend of the same age dropped dead one sunday afternoon playing football of a heart attack. After that I became obsessed that something was wrong with me ect. I have a highly strung nature anyway so that and other things, like my dad dying in his early 40s of cancer just sent me into a spiral. Things go through my mind on a daily basis that just wouldnt occur to most people. Such as dropping dead alone at home or thinking about passing out in a que in the supper market and so on.
Over the years I tried counselling, hypnothreapy, ani depressants, cbt, all sorts. Nothing helps. I found that a clean diet, excersie, ect helped better than other things.
What you just wrote sounds like what I go through exactly.
I lie in bed some nights unable to sleep because I can feel my heart beating all over my body. M y mind cant escape from thoughts of something going seriously wrong.
A gym buddy of mine dropped dead 2 years ago aged 43, heart attack. And my dad has myeloma, cancer of the blood.
I research nutrition to seek out the most beneficial nutrients so I can include them in my diet, you should see the green smoothies I have daily along with a super salad every night just to keep health.
I train twice per week now instead of 3 days so I can go kickboxing on Wednesdays for cardio, its also a hobby of mine since childhood and I used to compete in the amateur's.
The health anxiety is flippin horrid, every little pain or lump turns into a deadly disease. I hate it so much it has consumed me at some points.
Lately I have started to come to terms with my mortality and tell myself, one day you will die and its OK. Don't fear it, it wont stop it from happening.
This helps!
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I suffer with depresion, health anxiety and panic attacks. I go through stages of these being very bad that can last for 6 months to a year at a time then I will be ok for a year or 2 then it comes back. Im about 8 months into the latest episode of this right now. Bad one this time round. No idea what causes it, just have to take each day at a time. I never said this before on here but it has been a major reason I wanted to grow my business and remove myself from generating the money or running the office. i didnt want my propblems to damage the business or my income. January was so bad I hardly left the house for a month.
Thats interesting Lee. Thankyou.
Have you had counselling at any time for this? I've had health anxiety issues, quite debilitating in themselves when they were at their worse.
Have these got anything to do with unresolved grief revolving round your fathers premature death?
I have had counselling slacky, it doesn't help much!
Its the same as someone telling you not to worry about x, it doesn't stop you from worrying.
It just made me realise that you can only help yourself in these situations. I make these problems in my mind, therefore the solutions to them come from the same place.
Like the great Bruce lee once said " the medicine for my ailments was inside me the whole time"
Another one I like is from the song "little lion man" " you wasted your whole life , trying to solve the problems you made in your head" Puts things in perspective a little.
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I suffer with depresion, health anxiety and panic attacks. I go through stages of these being very bad that can last for 6 months to a year at a time then I will be ok for a year or 2 then it comes back. Im about 8 months into the latest episode of this right now. Bad one this time round. No idea what causes it, just have to take each day at a time. I never said this before on here but it has been a major reason I wanted to grow my business and remove myself from generating the money or running the office. i didnt want my propblems to damage the business or my income. January was so bad I hardly left the house for a month.
Thats interesting Lee. Thankyou.
Have you had counselling at any time for this? I've had health anxiety issues, quite debilitating in themselves when they were at their worse.
Have these got anything to do with unresolved grief revolving round your fathers premature death?
When I was in my early 20s a friend of the same age dropped dead one sunday afternoon playing football of a heart attack. After that I became obsessed that something was wrong with me ect. I have a highly strung nature anyway so that and other things, like my dad dying in his early 40s of cancer just sent me into a spiral. Things go through my mind on a daily basis that just wouldnt occur to most people. Such as dropping dead alone at home or thinking about passing out in a que in the supper market and so on.
Over the years I tried counselling, hypnothreapy, ani depressants, cbt, all sorts. Nothing helps. I found that a clean diet, excersie, ect helped better than other things.
My father dropped dead one day at the age of 32, when I was 2. He woke up that day, had a brain haemorrhage and was dead before the sun went down. I had a brain haemorrhage, like his, 4 years his junior.
As a result of this, subconsciously, I expect to die any day. I’ve had periods of time, sometimes quite prolonged for months, where the first thought of the day, and it can linger for hours, is “will this be my last day?”
I’ve had an extended period of counselling for this and other issues and at last I believe I’m getting on top of it. My sister also suffers it, this health anxiety.
We’re both alcoholics in recovery as well. Coincidentally we both share the same day in the year when we got sober. This March 24th I’ll be 21 years sober and she’ll be 20.
Mental health, I don’t feel ashamed of it anymore, but I used to.
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I suffer with depresion, health anxiety and panic attacks. I go through stages of these being very bad that can last for 6 months to a year at a time then I will be ok for a year or 2 then it comes back. Im about 8 months into the latest episode of this right now. Bad one this time round. No idea what causes it, just have to take each day at a time. I never said this before on here but it has been a major reason I wanted to grow my business and remove myself from generating the money or running the office. i didnt want my propblems to damage the business or my income. January was so bad I hardly left the house for a month.
Thats interesting Lee. Thankyou.
Have you had counselling at any time for this? I've had health anxiety issues, quite debilitating in themselves when they were at their worse.
Have these got anything to do with unresolved grief revolving round your fathers premature death?
I have had counselling slacky, it doesn't help much!
Its the same as someone telling you not to worry about x, it doesn't stop you from worrying.
It just made me realise that you can only help yourself in these situations. I make these problems in my mind, therefore the solutions to them come from the same place.
Like the great Bruce lee once said " the medicine for my ailments was inside me the whole time"
Another one I like is from the song "little lion man" " you wasted your whole life , trying to solve the problems you made in your head" Puts things in perspective a little.
Paul, Ive been going for three years. It’s helped me enormously. The person I see doesn’t tell me to stop worrying at all. She’s very good. But is also an alike in recovery with about 18 years sober time under her belt.
Don’t get me wrong, my problems nowadays aren’t drink related, they’re definitely mental health related. But any counsellor that simply tells you to stop worrying shouldn’t be practising.
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I've also had therapeutic help as in counselling for a year or so. It's surprising how seemingly unrelated things can link; most of my adulthood issues were around childhood trauma that remained either hidden, or only on the periphery of memory.
It's one of the reasons I write (apart from actually enjoying it most of the time). I can work past trauma and even current-day incidents into a story. A couple of people who live nearby really pee me off. They become characters in a story :) (they found the local traffic warden dismembered in some bushes) :)
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My health anxiety is defiantly linked to my past "behaviours".
I went out every weekend and took every class A there is, drank for days at a time and smoked like a train. I also smoked cannabis for 20 years. I first went to prison aged 16 then 3 more times after that all for drunk/drugged violenece.I didn't have a care in the world, looking back it was bliss.
Then I stopped everything and had kids, the whole outlook changed dramatically. I want to be around for my children but I'm terrified my past will have to be paid for.
I sympathise with you for living in fear of ""dropping dead" I had that for 12 months, around a year ago it got a little bit better.
Thanks for this thread.
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Trouble is we believe the lies our heads tell us.
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The best counselling I had was group therapy, me and around 10 other blokes all in a room telling it like it is.
Was hard at first but when every one else helped you to see things differently or told how they overcame such and such an issue.
A bit like CIU tonight.
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I've also had therapeutic help as in counselling for a year or so. It's surprising how seemingly unrelated things can link; most of my adulthood issues were around childhood trauma that remained either hidden, or only on the periphery of memory.
It's one of the reasons I write (apart from actually enjoying it most of the time). I can work past trauma and even current-day incidents into a story. A couple of people who live nearby really pee me off. They become characters in a story :) (they found the local traffic warden dismembered in some bushes) :)
That's a great way to deal with things, you can put an ending on the situation.
I have always found putting pen to paper a great help, not to write as such. Just to put your thoughts down on paper and then you can see them more clearly.
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Isnt it quite shocking how common mental health issues are.
Ive always felt like i was the only one.
Like most ive tried cbt, anti depresants and councilling etc.
Can be bad for months then ok for a while then it comes back again.
Does anyone havs OCD ? apparently its quite common with people prone to anxiety/depression
I used to have it quite bad but even to this day i do things out of habit and repetition. I check van is locked and doors loccked and electric if off before bed, but over and over again. I count letters in words over and over to check i havent got it wrong. I turn the tins round in the cupboards so the labels all face the right way. if i touch somrthing cold with one hand i have to equal it out on the other lol .
My daughter is in the process of being diagnosed with possible autism and ADHD and my dad used to have panic attacks, im sure all these things are linked. I reckon i will go all my life with an undiagnosed mental disorder but you just get used to it and it becomes part of your existence.
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My grandfather on my mothers side was a violent alcoholic. His wife, my mothers mother, committed suicide.
My mother was an alcoholic, depressed and possibly had borderline personality disorder. One of my sisters is an alcoholic in recovery with severe OCD, depression, health anxiety and generalised anxiety disorder.
My other sister has depression.
I’m an alike in recovery and have had to tolerate GAD, depression and health anxiety issues.
I have 3 nieces, 2 of them have an underlying depressive condition each.
We all fecked in my family 😍
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Isnt it quite shocking how common mental health issues are.
Ive always felt like i was the only one.
Like most ive tried cbt, anti depresants and councilling etc.
Can be bad for months then ok for a while then it comes back again.
Does anyone havs OCD ? apparently its quite common with people prone to anxiety/depression
I used to have it quite bad but even to this day i do things out of habit and repetition. I check van is locked and doors loccked and electric if off before bed, but over and over again. I count letters in words over and over to check i havent got it wrong. I turn the tins round in the cupboards so the labels all face the right way. if i touch somrthing cold with one hand i have to equal it out on the other lol .
My daughter is in the process of being diagnosed with possible autism and ADHD and my dad used to have panic attacks, im sure all these things are linked. I reckon i will go all my life with an undiagnosed mental disorder but you just get used to it and it becomes part of your existence.
Weird you mention about it being in the family.
my health anxiety centres around my heart, 6 months ago my dad was being tested at the hospital as he "was sure" there was something wrong with his heart. My mother told he worries about it.
Then we found out that his dad topped himself because he was paranoid about heart disease and cancer etc.
Last week my 5 year old boy ran to the top of the stairs and said he could feel his heart pumping and exclaimed "my heart is broken" bought a tear to my eye.
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This thread is starting to trip me out!
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It’s all good stuff!!
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Feel better already, CIU should open a counselling section.
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My health anxiety is defiantly linked to my past "behaviours".
I went out every weekend and took every class A there is, drank for days at a time and smoked like a train. I also smoked cannabis for 20 years. I first went to prison aged 16 then 3 more times after that all for drunk/drugged violenece.I didn't have a care in the world, looking back it was bliss.
Then I stopped everything and had kids, the whole outlook changed dramatically. I want to be around for my children but I'm terrified my past will have to be paid for.
I sympathise with you for living in fear of ""dropping dead" I had that for 12 months, around a year ago it got a little bit better.
Thanks for this thread.
Well done on finding recovery and sticking with it. My darkest days are more than 30 years ago, but the worst part of it was when it was actually legal (scripted). I even remember a doctor who wrote scripts in exchange for bottles of whisky (I kid you not).
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Thanks
I guess I just learned how to "learn" from my mistakes.
How do you mean ? " worst part was legal(scripted)?
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Holy poop .... after reading this my heart condition sort of seems trivial .....im totally blown away :o
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Thanks
I guess I just learned how to "learn" from my mistakes.
How do you mean ? " worst part was legal(scripted)?
It was possible to pay a private doctor to write prescriptions for injectables such as methadone ampoules and in some cases, diamorphine (heroin) ampoules. The doctor and pharmacy fees were far cheaper, and less risky, than scoring on the streets. Plus you couldn't get nicked for possession because it was a legal script.
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The thing is that as humans we do not yet fully understand how the brain works and probably won't for hundreds of years.
It seems like it's only recently that anxiety/depression/ocd etc are being talked about and recognised as a real illness
A few years ago if you were anxious you were just a soft get and if you were depressed you were just a miserable bugger.
I think finally people are accepting that these issues are real and are debilitating for many.
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Bit of an eye opener!! I suffer none of these things but it is quite sad to read and clearly genuine.
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An ex of mine used to work in the local chemist. Apparently the chemist used to say about people who were prescribed anti-depressants that they should just pull themselves together.
That’s from an educated, medical professional.
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I’ve got Coeliac disease which means I can’t eat; wheat, barley, rye or oats. Not that serious in the scheme of things, unless a custie slips me a digestive to have with my tea! :P
and that digestive will give you the poopx hope you carry a toilet roll and a bucket in you van
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I’ve got Coeliac disease which means I can’t eat; wheat, barley, rye or oats. Not that serious in the scheme of things, unless a custie slips me a digestive to have with my tea! :P
and that digestive will give you the poopx hope you carry a toilet roll and a bucket in you van
Technically, that digestive will stop me getting any nourishment from my food, which is why I went down to 9 stone.
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Nothing remotely on the scale of some of the other posters on this topic but has anyone else's posture suffered from using wfp?
I have developed a hump at the base of my neck over the years, not in the same league as Quasimodo yet but it is noticeable to me anyway. I've researched it and it's proper term is a 'Dowagers Hump'. I've put it down to constantly looking up together with the motion of working the pole. Trying a few exercises at the moment to try and reverse things so hopefully see some improvement.
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Isnt it quite shocking how common mental health issues are.
Ive always felt like i was the only one.
Like most ive tried cbt, anti depresants and councilling etc.
Can be bad for months then ok for a while then it comes back again.
Does anyone havs OCD ? apparently its quite common with people prone to anxiety/depression
I used to have it quite bad but even to this day i do things out of habit and repetition. I check van is locked and doors loccked and electric if off before bed, but over and over again. I count letters in words over and over to check i havent got it wrong. I turn the tins round in the cupboards so the labels all face the right way. if i touch somrthing cold with one hand i have to equal it out on the other lol .
My daughter is in the process of being diagnosed with possible autism and ADHD and my dad used to have panic attacks, im sure all these things are linked. I reckon i will go all my life with an undiagnosed mental disorder but you just get used to it and it becomes part of your existence.
Weird you mention about it being in the family.
my health anxiety centres around my heart, 6 months ago my dad was being tested at the hospital as he "was sure" there was something wrong with his heart. My mother told he worries about it.
Then we found out that his dad topped himself because he was paranoid about heart disease and cancer etc.
Last week my 5 year old boy ran to the top of the stairs and said he could feel his heart pumping and exclaimed "my heart is broken" bought a tear to my eye.
My little lad had counselling through his school. He'd have been 6 and I think it did him a lot of good. I was preparing him for it and told him that a lady was going to come to school and help him. A few days later he asked me when was the lady coming to "fix me". It knocked me sideways that.
He thought he was just naughty- as did many others- but he was later diagnosed with ADHD.
Things have improved though and we are managing- at the moment- without medication and pretty much on our own.
It's horrible to hear kids talk like that.
Excellent thread. Cheers, Matt.
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You’re welcome, you sick puppy, you :)
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Personally I think social media platforms like Facebook are doing huge amounts of damage to people's mental health and are a major cause of depression and anxiety.
In this day and age everyone feels the need to broadcast their lives to an audience and are constantly trying to outdo each other in owning this or that or going here on holiday or having great nights out etc. People are putting themselves under huge amounts of stress in this extreme form of keeping up with the Jones. What they don't understand is that social media is choreographed where people can manipulate one photo to make things look completely different to reality and others are left looking on comparing their own lives with others they feel have a much better life than theirs. Our lives are made up of 99% average day to day things and the 1% is taken up doing something out of the ordinary. And we should be happy with that. But social media gives the impression that it's in fact the opposite where the posts and photos which give a false sense of reality are how people live their lives ALL the time.
I know I struggled with this and found myself constantly comparing my life to others and asking myself why can't I live a life like that until I stepped back and thought about the reality of social media. I deleted my Facebook a long time ago and I was pleasantly surprised how much happier I felt not having this constant feed of other people's lives in my face all the time and also the amount of new time on my hands to spend focused on myself and my wife.
Maybe others will disagree but that's my own experience anyway. I'm sure there is plenty of good points with social media like keeping in touch with others but if anyone is close to me I will have their phone number.
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Compare and despair.
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I know a couple of tradders that work near me . Ones got sweaty feet , and the other smells of meths .
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I know a couple of tradders that work near me . Ones got sweaty feet , and the other smells of meths .
meths is a well known cure for sweaty feet..........
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I know a couple of tradders that work near me . Ones got sweaty feet , and the other smells of meths .
How on earth do you know he has sweaty feet ???
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I’ve got Coeliac disease which means I can’t eat; wheat, barley, rye or oats. Not that serious in the scheme of things, unless a custie slips me a digestive to have with my tea! :P
and that digestive will give you the poopx hope you carry a toilet roll and a bucket in you van
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Technically, that digestive will stop me getting any nourishment from my food, which is why I went down to 9 stone
. My daughter has had Coeliacs for many years,is she strays away from gluten free, by eating one digestive she would be ill,Coeliacs is a l life changer from an eating point of view
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Nothing remotely on the scale of some of the other posters on this topic but has anyone else's posture suffered from using wfp?
I have developed a hump at the base of my neck over the years, not in the same league as Quasimodo yet but it is noticeable to me anyway. I've researched it and it's proper term is a 'Dowagers Hump'. I've put it down to constantly looking up together with the motion of working the pole. Trying a few exercises at the moment to try and reverse things so hopefully see some improvement.
I currently see an osteopath for my postural issues.
He's found I have one leg a little shorter than the other and I have a compression of the spine at the base of my neck, he says it will take years to sort out.
I also have a twist in the mid part of my spine. I put it all down to WFP.
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I watched a documentary about prostate cancer in 2013 and came to the conclusion that I should get checked out as I had got some symptoms which were highlighted in the programme like frequent peeing especially at night!
I had the blood test on the Wednesday and the dreaded phone call from the doctor the next day saying that my readings were quite high to what they should be! I was very scared at this time thinking all kinds of horrible things regarding how it would affect my life!
After having countless biopsies done a MRI scan, a bone scan plus lots of appointments with my oncologist I'm pleased to say that no cancer was found though I do have an enlarged prostate. I now have regular check ups!
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Very interesting reading on here.
I also have suffered and continue to suffer from depression and OCD.
I have mentioned it on here many times before, have recently come off my antidepressants ( April 2017 ) as they were turning me into a zombie.
My OCD has been on occasions; at the peak of my depression been very debilitating, i cant bring myself to go into details on a forum, but lets just say...nut job..springs to mind. Lol. I have lost and alienated many friends because of this, but i have learned to deal with it now.
Since being off medications, the depression hasnt gone away, but i have learned to manage it and keep it in check.
Its interesting Lee, what you said about staying in all January..when we spoke on the phone it went through my mind that you may have the black dog visiting. Dont suffer in silence m8. Text if you need to.
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Very interesting reading on here.
I also have suffered and continue to suffer from depression and OCD.
Is it possible that the way you run your business (rigid next-clean dates) is one of the lesser manifestations of OCD?
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Yes absolutely.
I get panicky and distressed, if i dont have a rigid plan.
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been suffering with bout of depression for the last ten years,had two lengthily spell of being on tablets to help,
physical health
i am now faced with knowing that after the accident i was involved in 3 years back that left me with metal rods and screws on my spin that my back will get worst as i age,and ive been warned that within the next 5 years i be looking to change the way i work or stop doing the work i do,i am allready on a high dose of nerve/muscle relaxer tablets to get me though my daily life and that haves a huge a effect on me,that somedays i seem spaced out and cant take things in etc
i continue to try to keep active as you will know and this helps both the above for now
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I had blood tests last week for cholesterol, diabetes, kidney and liver function etc. The doctors rang me to come in for them because of my age. The results today were quite good but my cholesterol could do with coming down a bit.
I'll try and keep an eye on what and how I eat and hope that does the trick.
I've been lax with my diet because I haven't had to think too much about it.
I'm only a couple of pounds overweight but I need to manage food better. I often go too long without eating and then eat too much.
I like eating- and drinking- too much though ;D.
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I watched a documentary about prostate cancer in 2013 and came to the conclusion that I should get checked out as I had got some symptoms which were highlighted in the programme like frequent peeing especially at night!
I had the blood test on the Wednesday and the dreaded phone call from the doctor the next day saying that my readings were quite high to what they should be! I was very scared at this time thinking all kinds of horrible things regarding how it would affect my life!
After having countless biopsies done a MRI scan, a bone scan plus lots of appointments with my oncologist I'm pleased to say that no cancer was found though I do have an enlarged prostate. I now have regular check ups!
I have a annual check for high blood pressure this also includes a blood test,I have requested they test for proststate problems each time I have a blood test.
The amazing thing is if I had not asked them to include prostate test they would not have checked and in 56 so prime age for prostate problems
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Also in 2013 I was told by my GP that I was diabetic and should take two Metformin tablets every day indefinitely! I'm 6ft 2 tall and never really thought that I was carrying too much weight my friends always used to say that because I'm tall I didn't look overweight however last year I decided to join Slimming World where within eight months I lost three stone! I'm now off all the medication for diabetes though I do have to take a statin every day to control my cholesterol plus a tablet for my blood pressure!
The joys of getting old!
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No health problems so far, apart from alkie-ism, which was sorted via A.A..
But after stopping drinking, I eventually kicked the smoking too and in recent years have been fairly active with running, lifting weights, and heavy punch bag training.
I exercise six-days-a-week, often twice in one day, and my long weekend runs can take hours. I ran my first ultra marathon last year too; 46 miles around the Brecon Beacons, all in one go.
I also have a regular meditation practice, try to live an ethical life, and practice compassion (even if I don't feel very compassionate mostly). I think these three things are important for good mental health.
I also don't idolise money. Money is important when you need to buy stuff and pay bills, but it's not a major motivating factor in my life.
So I feel pretty darn good, but I do put a lot of effort into maintaining myself physically and mentally.
I think the 'secret' is to find two groups. One for exercise (parkrun/gym friends/running club/regular exercise group; that kind of thing) and another for the mental aspect (Buddhist meditation group, 12 Step group, church, mosque, etc). I find that when I have to do something, just for myself, by myself, I'm pretty crap at it. But if I have to do something for other people (like turn up to a run to do a group run, or give some newly sober or still drunk alkie a lift to a meeting), I'm there. Obviously I benefit from it too.
But of course, nothing will stop that orange-sized brain tumor from killing me. ;D
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Also in 2013 I was told by my GP that I was diabetic and should take two Metformin tablets every day indefinitely! I'm 6ft 2 tall and never really thought that I was carrying too much weight my friends always used to say that because I'm tall I didn't look overweight however last year I decided to join Slimming World where within eight months I lost three stone! I'm now off all the medication for diabetes though I do have to take a statin every day to control my cholesterol plus a tablet for my blood pressure!
The joys of getting old!
Any side effects from the statins?
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Also in 2013 I was told by my GP that I was diabetic and should take two Metformin tablets every day indefinitely! I'm 6ft 2 tall and never really thought that I was carrying too much weight my friends always used to say that because I'm tall I didn't look overweight however last year I decided to join Slimming World where within eight months I lost three stone! I'm now off all the medication for diabetes though I do have to take a statin every day to control my cholesterol plus a tablet for my blood pressure!
The joys of getting old!
Any side effects from the statins?
None at all I stopped taking them for two years which meant my level went up from 4 to 5.9 so been back on them for last six months so far so good! Strength of mine is 10mg per day!
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I have been diagnosed with low testosterone and have just put the treatment off again (been doing this for 4 years) as its life long and comes with complications that can be fatal.
I don't feel too bad as I am (I keep telling myself) but it scares the poop out of me. Its basically low dose steroids which is bad for the heart, also low testosterone comes with some nasty diseases so I'm goosed either way.
Also health anxiety (disease of the mind) horrid.
I don't know if it would help you, but weight lifting, particularly squats and deadlifts create a hormonal change and increase testosterone levels. Same goes for high intensity exercise.
Being overweight doesn't help; fat decreases testosterone.
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I have been diagnosed with low testosterone and have just put the treatment off again (been doing this for 4 years) as its life long and comes with complications that can be fatal.
I don't feel too bad as I am (I keep telling myself) but it scares the poop out of me. Its basically low dose steroids which is bad for the heart, also low testosterone comes with some nasty diseases so I'm goosed either way.
Also health anxiety (disease of the mind) horrid.
I don't know if it would help you, but weight lifting, particularly squats and deadlifts create a hormonal change and increase testosterone levels. Same goes for high intensity exercise.
Being overweight doesn't help; fat decreases testosterone.
Thanks tosh,
I pretty much know as much as the endocrinologist on the subject, I have been lifting weights for around 20 years, today was squats and Monday is deadlifts.
I am currently around 15% bodyfat and I'm on a 2500 kcal diet which is -20% maintenance so I should be back down to 10-12% in around 6-8 weeks time.
I eat 180 grams of protein, 90 grams of fats and 240 grams of slow burning carbs. The diet anti-oestrogenic and anti cortisol, both of which compete with testosterone. Its packed with veg and I supplement with fish oil, high strength vitamin d and zinc.
My levels have been as low as 6.5 nmol 4 years ago and on average around 8 nmol, anything below 9 nmol is classed as treatment required. For my age the average is 20 nmol.
I had a test in September last year and my level was 7.8 nmol. I went to the endocrinologist the end of last month and he told me I should start treatment but I asked for 6 more months, he agreed but said there's not much chance of change after 4 years.
He ordered a test whilst there and today I rang for the result's, was really nervous as I'm dieting and that kills your testosterone level's. The test showed 11.1 nmol, I am over the moon as even though its still low for me it brings me out of the red.
below 9 needs treatment 9-11 needs treatment based on symptom's and above 11 is ok.
I am hoping that when the diet is finished and I am at a lower bodyfat my test levels will go higher as bodyfat converts testosterone to oestrogen so the less the better.
Cant say how relieved and happy I am with this.
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Good luck with it, Paul, and it must be frustrating, especially if you weight train.
One thing that helps me lose weight, quickly, is a low carb high fat diet. I've done a fair bit of research on it; it's not a fad, but it's a pretty decent way of losing weight. The magic with it is that - after a few weeks - there's very little hunger, so it's easy to eat less.
There's lots and lots on the net about it, including LCHF for body builders/weight training/endurance athletes/diabetics, etc.
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I have tried that type of diet and it just felt wrong eating that much fat, I know there is plenty of research on it saying its safe as long as your not eating carbs and spiking insulin.
I was doing intermittent fasting until a few weeks ago but started feeling shaky before eating, I think it was something to do with my blood glucose levels.
I think carbs are ok if you eat the right ones, all low glycaemic index.
Also in my situation you need carbs and blood glucose to stimulate GNRH from the pituary gland, its the signal to the testes to produce testosterone. It's the part of me that is causing the lowered testosterone.
Even though I'm low in T my workouts are great, I can still bench more than my bodyweight and deadlift nearly bodyweight x2 along with other really good lifts. I just have to train accordingly.
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i dont believe in going TOO low carb esp if you weight train on a regular basis.keep the protein high,medium carb intake and a small intake of good fats and a little saturated fat....
if you want to lose weight simply reduce your carbs a little more esp on your non weight training days(and eat less of everything overall)and increase your cardio a bit in relation to your weight training.....
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Depends on the type of excersise , weight training like daz , yeah definatly what he says , tried and tested as any bodybuilding mag will tell you , however tosh and his wife are long distance endurance athletes low carb high fat diets offer a slow burning energy after you have adapted over two weeks and suits this type of training much better , I have done both but 90 days ago decided to try vegan I dropped two weight catagories (I fight) from 82 kg to 62kg without planning to , never felt stronger and can wrestle an hour without stopping , I deadlift 140kg at 62kg body weight , vegan is the new hotness guys I’m telling ye ! :-)
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Tosh have you tried bcaas on low carb ? If you haven’t you will love it !
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And for all you meat eaters read “the primal blueprint by mark sisson” it’s the best book for on the subject by a million miles
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Hi Paul Alan how much do you weigh bud
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And for all you meat eaters read “the primal blueprint by mark sisson” it’s the best book for on the subject by a million miles
I'm a fan of Primal Endurance; same author, Mark Sissons; low carb and low heart rate training for endurance athletes. I used it to train for an ultra marathon. Still on it.
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Tosh have you tried bcaas on low carb ? If you haven’t you will love it !
I've been low carb for over a year (apart from about 6 weeks when we fell off the wagon).
Do you think bcaas would still benefit?
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however tosh and his wife are long distance endurance athletes low carb high fat diets offer a slow burning energy after you have adapted over two weeks and suits this type of training much better ,
To really benefit from low carb, you have to do it for quite a long time. Some months even. The first time we tried it we definitely felt weaker; like we couldn't push the last one-or-two reps of a heavy lift (we lift heavy/low volume so as not to over stress our central nervous system on top of the running).
But as the weeks/months past, this hasn't been a problem. In fact we don't notice the difference when training low carb, compared to when we've eaten carbs (we're not OCD about it and will have the occasional cheat meal).
You're spot on about it being great for endurance though; I remember I used to get hungry after running for about 90 minutes, and towards the end of ultra marathon training we could go for four hours, non stop, without needing to eat.
We're currently marathon training and we sometimes do our long run with other running club members and it surprises me to see them eating stuff, or consuming energy gels on our long runs.
Fat-adaption is the way ahead.
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Bcaas are commonly used in a calorie deficit so using them if your cutting weight and you feel them massively , what we have found though is sipping them through a long Brazillian Jiu Jitsu session makes a massive difference, it eliminates cramping and for me it feels like I'm drinking caffeine but with out the cafeiene lol I believe suppliers to be mainly bs but bcaas I would reccomend for definite the really help me
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Bcaas are commonly used in a calorie deficit so using them if your cutting weight and you feel them massively , what we have found though is sipping them through a long Brazillian Jiu Jitsu session makes a massive difference, it eliminates cramping and for me it feels like I'm drinking caffeine but with out the cafeiene lol I believe suppliers to be mainly bs but bcaas I would reccomend for definite the really help me
I'll have a try; thanks.
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I once did the vince geronda steak and eggs diet , nothing but steak and eggs 30 days I was ripped but was comp training 4 hours a day , it was grim :-) the things we do eh
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Oh and if your aching cbd oil man wow it really works even Holland and Barrett sell it now
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Bcaa don't be tempted to by unflavoured lol they taste really bad , you can get tablets but drinks can be used during , if you have ever seen the other guys with flu recent blue water bottles it will be bcaa
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You got spare resin ? You could just go through the di , it will kill your resin but if you got spare ?
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Oh and if your aching cbd oil man wow it really works even Holland and Barrett sell it now
I do the cbd every night, good for inflammation.
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Hi Paul Alan how much do you weigh bud
I'm down to 207 lbs at the minute but cutting to around 195lb. I'm 6 2" mate.
I used to compete at that weight, amateur kickboxing.
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Depends on the type of excersise , weight training like daz , yeah definatly what he says , tried and tested as any bodybuilding mag will tell you , however tosh and his wife are long distance endurance athletes low carb high fat diets offer a slow burning energy after you have adapted over two weeks and suits this type of training much better , I have done both but 90 days ago decided to try vegan I dropped two weight catagories (I fight) from 82 kg to 62kg without planning to , never felt stronger and can wrestle an hour without stopping , I deadlift 140kg at 62kg body weight , vegan is the new hotness guys I’m telling ye ! :-)
I tried vegan, its a hard one to get into mate.
I found myself being way to picky with food, a lot vegan stuff they sell is still bad for you in other ways.
I got fed up in the end and thought flick it, I'm just gonna eat a sensible diet. Low GI carbs, 0.8 gram per lb protein and 0.5 per lb fats (low polyunsaturated, low saturated). I still allow myself 200 kcals per day for chocolate to satisfy cravings.
You do lose weight quickly with low carb but its mainly due to water weight as carbs fill the muscle with glycogen and then hold water, so your mainly losing water.
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Depends on the type of excersise , weight training like daz , yeah definatly what he says , tried and tested as any bodybuilding mag will tell you , however tosh and his wife are long distance endurance athletes low carb high fat diets offer a slow burning energy after you have adapted over two weeks and suits this type of training much better , I have done both but 90 days ago decided to try vegan I dropped two weight catagories (I fight) from 82 kg to 62kg without planning to , never felt stronger and can wrestle an hour without stopping , I deadlift 140kg at 62kg body weight , vegan is the new hotness guys I’m telling ye ! :-)
Mate that's 20 kg in 13 weeks, around 1.5lbs per week. Good going that.Do you sup with b6 and vit d?
What's your sport?
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Hi mate thanks I was surprised I've never been that light , my sport is Brazillian Jiu Jitsu submission wrestling , I do indeed , I take a berrocca (mostly not needed but it has the b vits and vit d as well) I actually really believe in the vit d and your correct about the b vits vegans would o lay get them from soil after picking up fallen fruit lol , your stats and bf look great 12-15 is really good man really low can be tough and not really needed if your strong and lifting double body weight that's great , have you ever heard of the supple leopard book it's great for weight lifters and everyone really
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I've rolled with a few kick boxers Maui Thai and k1 guys , tough strong and athletic with good hips
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Don't worry about massive high protein intakes I truly believe not many people need what the magazines (which only cover their costs by whey protein adverts) tell you , many bodybuilder unless the naturals are so full of ped's it doesn't matter what they put into them, protein is massively overrated and hardly any people are defficient
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And defiantly prepared vegan food is just as bad as prepared anything , there are vegans which eat Oreo and Coca Cola all day lol , I think the only good diet is the one you stick too if the macros add up your golden man ,!
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Hi mate thanks I was surprised I've never been that light , my sport is Brazillian Jiu Jitsu submission wrestling , I do indeed , I take a berrocca (mostly not needed but it has the b vits and vit d as well) I actually really believe in the vit d and your correct about the b vits vegans would o lay get them from soil after picking up fallen fruit lol , your stats and bf look great 12-15 is really good man really low can be tough and not really needed if your strong and lifting double body weight that's great , have you ever heard of the supple leopard book it's great for weight lifters and everyone really
Supple leopard?? aint heard of it ,mate. will google.
BJJ hey, been watching the Gracie's lately on YouTube. I just love striking, can put all my bodyweight in a punch with either hand, have put a few away I can tell you. Would struggle on the ground though against someone who knows what they're doing.
Am considering doing some krav maga but don't want to do too much as recovery is key for me.
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You need a mix these days ((for competitive mma style stuff ) striking is great I don't think you need Krav if you already have the kickboxing experience, however the standup guys struggle with good wrestlers as they blast double quickly and close the distance making it hard and on the other side of the coin when you have a black belt Bjj guy hit him once he becomes a brown belt hit him again a purple lol why not try something where you can go at your pace and have great fun , wresting is hard and a young mans game but Jiu Jitsu is all technique man you can go at your own pace any age any size ! Think of it this way you open up their legs for a takedown with your strikes from kickboxing they lift their hands to cover , you double leg and take mount either punch or take their back and choke them !
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Think I'll stick the striking.
If all else fails I'm just a low down dirty fighter, I got stuck under someone on the street once and couldn't budge. So whilst biting his thumb I stuck my finger knuckle deep in his eye, could swear I had brain juice on my hand. Gross.
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Hahahahahahahahaha
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Make love, not war!
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I’ve never had a fight that haven’t been on the mats lol :-) been asked to go in the cage but doesn’t do it for me I’d probably lose as well ! Plus I’m 33
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Well I think if one of you or Paul Alan came after me, you’d see a me shapes hole in the wall opposite I’d be running so fast!!!
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if you want to build muscle then you have to have a high protein diet IMO.it aids in recovery too(which is even more important when your in your mid forties)...I dont drink protein shakes apart from one after my workouts(so only 3 shakes a week)as im not a big fan of them.i have around 150-200g of protein a day and im 250lb and 6ft 2in.....the rest comes from real food and the odd protein bar.....
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Real food protein I agree man , shakes are bs and your a big tall guy your ratio for protein sound ok
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You raise an important point about the age , every 10 years after 40 the test drop is pretty high
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I've rolled with a few kick boxers Maui Thai and k1 guys , tough strong and athletic with good hips
Sounds kinky, but this probably isn't the forum for that kind of stuff.
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Supple leopard?? aint heard of it ,mate. will google.
I've a friend who calls herself a 'supple leopard', after reading that book.
She's just taking the mick though.
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Lol my coach was called the supple leopard after reading that book also ! Lol
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Depends on the type of excersise , weight training like daz , yeah definatly what he says , tried and tested as any bodybuilding mag will tell you , however tosh and his wife are long distance endurance athletes low carb high fat diets offer a slow burning energy after you have adapted over two weeks and suits this type of training much better , I have done both but 90 days ago decided to try vegan I dropped two weight catagories (I fight) from 82 kg to 62kg without planning to , never felt stronger and can wrestle an hour without stopping , I deadlift 140kg at 62kg body weight , vegan is the new hotness guys I’m telling ye ! :-)
140KG deads at 62kg weight, that's stronger than me when you take into account relative strength.
Its how much you can lift relative to your bodyweight, your doing really well there mate.