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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Simon Trapani on February 03, 2018, 06:17:07 pm

Title: Hose Reel Over-Run
Post by: Simon Trapani on February 03, 2018, 06:17:07 pm
I used WD40 (yes I know I should have used spray grease) on one of my brand new Pure Freedom hose reels as I thought it was squeaking. It turned out to be the plastic handle not the bearing that was sqeaking. Now my reel over-runs very time I unwind and either comes off or goes slack, making a right mess. It's been like it for weeks.

Anyone know of a way to create a bit of friction to stop this happening?

I've tried an old cloth wedged in the side but it doesn't really work and looks naff. Doe's anyone make something the opposite of like WD40?
Title: Re: Hose Reel Over-Run
Post by: Michael Peterson on February 03, 2018, 07:18:00 pm
don't do it without asking someone who knows but how about brake cleaner ?
Title: Re: Hose Reel Over-Run
Post by: richard groves on February 03, 2018, 07:38:46 pm
Do you mean the reel just turns too freely and quickly now faster than the hose unreels causing the hose to not pack tightly to it ?
A few months ago somebody had a similar problem as did I.
I have no idea what a pure freedom reel looks like, mines a van mounted pro loc metal reel, but perhaps you can do something similar...........
..............The answer was to zip tie some foam pipe lagging to the metal frame so it rubbed against the outside of the drum that holds the hose thus creating the "friction" you mention .................. it solved the problem for me and has worked a treat ever since.
Title: Re: Hose Reel Over-Run
Post by: Michael Peterson on February 03, 2018, 08:36:50 pm
good tip that buddy
Title: Re: Hose Reel Over-Run
Post by: Simon Trapani on February 03, 2018, 08:50:48 pm
Do you mean the reel just turns too freely and quickly now faster than the hose unreels causing the hose to not pack tightly to it ?
A few months ago somebody had a similar problem as did I.
I have no idea what a pure freedom reel looks like, mines a van mounted pro loc metal reel, but perhaps you can do something similar...........
..............The answer was to zip tie some foam pipe lagging to the metal frame so it rubbed against the outside of the drum that holds the hose thus creating the "friction" you mention .................. it solved the problem for me and has worked a treat ever since.
Yes I did read about that some time back. I did a search but couldn't find the thread.

The cloth is doing a similar job to the foam, just looks really naff on a brand new setup.
I was gonna ask at the garage if they knew of anything the next time I was cleaning their windows but forgot.
I'll ask them about the brake cleaner also. Thanks.
Title: Re: Hose Reel Over-Run
Post by: Plankton on February 03, 2018, 08:54:47 pm
What about spraying it with degreaser for motorbike chains?
Title: Re: Hose Reel Over-Run
Post by: Plankton on February 03, 2018, 08:59:59 pm
Barry Scott, have you not got a braking device on the prolock reel? My reel cracked and they replaced the reel rather than repairing locking/braking mechanism.
Title: Re: Hose Reel Over-Run
Post by: richard groves on February 03, 2018, 11:45:46 pm
Barry Scott, have you not got a braking device on the prolock reel? My reel cracked and they replaced the reel rather than repairing locking/braking mechanism.
Yes but its pretty ineffective , more of a locking device that's either locked/unlocked , when adjusted to use as a brake it would work its way loose very quickly and was of no real benefit. The pipe lagging is a simple cheap fix that works, I'm not one for really caring how something looks - if it does the job and saves me faffing about with it then its good enough for me.
Title: Re: Hose Reel Over-Run
Post by: Soupy on February 04, 2018, 05:39:00 am
Cox reels have adjustable tension brakes to prevent free wheeling, they're not cheap but I wouldn't consider any other manual reel.
Title: Re: Hose Reel Over-Run
Post by: Steve Newres on February 04, 2018, 07:10:16 am
Cox reels have adjustable tension brakes to prevent free wheeling, they're not cheap but I wouldn't consider any other manual reel.
I don’t doubt they are good and probably the best, but the Pure Freedom ones really are quality very sturdy. If I could just change the hose.....
Title: Re: Hose Reel Over-Run
Post by: Soupy on February 04, 2018, 07:33:38 am
Sturdy?

Plastic fittings, cheap crap screws. Doesn't sound sturdy to me.
Title: Re: Hose Reel Over-Run
Post by: Steve Newres on February 04, 2018, 07:57:33 am
Sturdy?

Plastic fittings, cheap crap screws. Doesn't sound sturdy to me.
It's 5 or 6 years old and still in full working order. In truth I genuinely would be inclined to think it was me that was the problem. No practical skills.
Title: Re: Hose Reel Over-Run
Post by: Soupy on February 04, 2018, 08:04:54 am
A chain is only as strong as it's weakest link.

I always suspected you were the weakest link.
Title: Re: Hose Reel Over-Run
Post by: britishwill on February 04, 2018, 09:25:59 am
I purchased a double stacker and single reel from PF last September. All three reels over run/freewheeled. It was so frustrating as they were new. I spoke to Andy and he sent me some shims for the single reel but has made the reel quite hard to pull out but just about useable. For the  double stacker he made an attachment to put pressure on the reel by turning a screw which has a piece of rubber at the end . It is now perfect and fully adjustable. Nice job
Title: Re: Hose Reel Over-Run
Post by: dazmond on February 04, 2018, 10:09:02 am
I too have a cox reel.not cheap but they are really good quality...no over run and no plastic spindle...... virtually effortless to reel in...
Title: Re: Hose Reel Over-Run
Post by: Soupy on February 04, 2018, 10:28:12 am
I too have a cox reel.not cheap but they are really good quality...no over run and no plastic spindle...... virtually effortless to reel in...

Wouldn't use anything else.

Although....

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1517740068_Screenshot_20180204-102728.jpg)

£180?
Title: Re: Hose Reel Over-Run
Post by: callum99 on February 04, 2018, 02:49:13 pm
I know exactly what you're saying, the reel I'm using now does that,, pppppppeing me off no end,, I've discovered in my case the spindle is causing my problem because it has no friction, after all my efforts to address the problem, I simply get string and wind it a few times round the spindle taking up the slack, it doesn't last forever but best solution so far