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Title: 2kw immersion heater
Post by: Darren H on January 24, 2018, 07:44:10 pm
I want to put one of these in my new van has anyone purchased one recently  and where did you get it from.

What size mechanical flange do i need.

Thanks darren
Title: Re: 2kw immersion heater
Post by: Plankton on January 24, 2018, 07:52:30 pm
Mark M had a youtube video fitting one of these, I doubt much has changed with the parts.
Title: Re: 2kw immersion heater
Post by: paul alan on January 24, 2018, 08:08:25 pm
screwfix are the best bet, they are the cheapest and they will give you the correct flange mate.

I think the flanges are 1/2" standard but the guys at the counter will sort you the right one.
Title: Re: 2kw immersion heater
Post by: DeLuce on January 24, 2018, 08:57:58 pm
Hi Darren, I got mine from Heatrod. Very professional company. They can do sizes to order as well.
https://www.heatrod.com/heating-elements/domestic-immersion-heaters.html

Mechanical flange I got from Toolstation. Standard immersion heater size. Get some heat resistant sealant while you're there. Some say you don't need it, but I prefer belt and braces!! ;D
I can't remember the hole size i cut in the tank, I'd have to go out to the shed and it's piddeling it down. But cut it to size of flange or mm smaller and it will screw in.  Put it as low down into the tank as you can, as low as your arms will go.
Also, heat resistant cable.
Title: Re: 2kw immersion heater
Post by: DeLuce on January 24, 2018, 09:00:41 pm
Here's the flange 2 1/4"
https://www.toolstation.com/shop/Heating+%26+Insulation/d230/Central+Heating+Accessories/sd2708/Mechanical+Flange/p38614
Title: Re: 2kw immersion heater
Post by: nathankaye on January 24, 2018, 09:02:55 pm
Hi Darren, I got mine from Heatrod. Very professional company. They can do sizes to order as well.
https://www.heatrod.com/heating-elements/domestic-immersion-heaters.html

Mechanical flange I got from Toolstation. Standard immersion heater size. Get some heat resistant sealant while you're there. Some say you don't need it, but I prefer belt and braces!! ;D
I can't remember the hole size i cut in the tank, I'd have to go out to the shed and it's piddeling it down. But cut it to size of flange or mm smaller and it will screw in.  Put it as low down into the tank as you can, as low as your arms will go.
Also, heat resistant cable.

I used the same companies, very competitive prices and good service as well.

As above, put it as low down as you can and then lower the part down with string and using the hole youve cut, you can get your fingers in to hold it. Thats why mine is at the lowest part (under the baffle part) of my 500ltr upright wydale tank
Title: Re: 2kw immersion heater
Post by: Darren H on January 24, 2018, 09:06:19 pm
Thanks for advise
so you don't have to get your arm down in the tank thats good news mines a 650 tank and ive short arms.
Title: Re: 2kw immersion heater
Post by: nathankaye on January 24, 2018, 09:09:00 pm
Thanks for advise
so you don't have to get your arm down in the tank thats good news mines a 650 tank and ive short arms.

I used a piece of rope with a crocodile clip attached, so it wouldnt accidentally fall of string.
Title: Re: 2kw immersion heater
Post by: nathankaye on January 24, 2018, 09:21:58 pm
This may prove useful
https://youtu.be/Ogw6FBV3suw
Title: Re: 2kw immersion heater
Post by: Stephen burton on January 24, 2018, 09:42:36 pm
https://www.toolstation.com/shop/p12829?table=no

https://www.toolstation.com/shop/p38614?table=no

https://www.toolstation.com/shop/p33540?table=no

https://www.toolstation.com/shop/p74540?table=no



Title: Re: 2kw immersion heater
Post by: Darren H on January 24, 2018, 09:49:39 pm
Tool station only seem to do the 3kw elments the 2kw do not seem so popular.
Title: Re: 2kw immersion heater
Post by: bobplum on January 24, 2018, 09:56:51 pm
Tool station only seem to do the 3kw elments the 2kw do not seem so popular.

you would be better off with the 3kw
Title: Re: 2kw immersion heater
Post by: P @ F on January 24, 2018, 10:22:02 pm
Only if he is willing to upgrade his home electrics of course , just thought i would point that out before he burns his house down  ;D
Title: Re: 2kw immersion heater
Post by: bobplum on January 25, 2018, 06:58:47 am
Only if he is willing to upgrade his home electrics of course , just thought i would point that out before he burns his house down  ;D

not necessarily, 3kw divided by 240 = 12.5 amps, so a 13 amp plug, correct cable and depending were he is drawing the supply from, ie garage, fit a trip socket he will be fine, this is what we use
 
Title: Re: 2kw immersion heater
Post by: Jonny 87 on January 25, 2018, 07:06:19 am
Only if he is willing to upgrade his home electrics of course , just thought i would point that out before he burns his house down  ;D

not necessarily, 3kw divided by 240 = 12.5 amps, so a 13 amp plug, correct cable and depending were he is drawing the supply from, ie garage, fit a trip socket he will be fine, this is what we use

Not according to electricians.
Title: Re: 2kw immersion heater
Post by: alank on January 25, 2018, 07:37:33 am
I'm having a three kw installed in a few weeks when electrician is back from holiday he is upgrading external sockets and wiring straight to consumer box so that's the way in having mine done I'd rather pay the electrician and know the job is right :D
Title: Re: 2kw immersion heater
Post by: ֍Winp®oClean֍ on January 25, 2018, 10:41:25 am
Yep, if it's 3kw get a pro' sparky in. Don't be like me and nearly burn your house down!!!!!
Title: Re: 2kw immersion heater
Post by: Slacky on January 25, 2018, 04:39:12 pm
If anyone would like a 2KW pond heater Ive got one going. Its exactly the same style as a fish-tank heater just bigger. Saves chopping your tank up.
Title: Re: 2kw immersion heater
Post by: bobplum on January 25, 2018, 05:23:11 pm
Only if he is willing to upgrade his home electrics of course , just thought i would point that out before he burns his house down  ;D

not necessarily, 3kw divided by 240 = 12.5 amps, so a 13 amp plug, correct cable and depending were he is drawing the supply from, ie garage, fit a trip socket he will be fine, this is what we use

Not according to electricians.
It was two electricians who told it
Title: Re: 2kw immersion heater
Post by: Smudger on January 26, 2018, 08:29:05 am
3 Kw is very close to the maximum on the ring and certainly dangerous off a spur and a trip switch may not save you as it tends to warm up and melt rather than trip the RCD

2 Kw should be fine off standard electrics

Darran
Title: Re: 2kw immersion heater
Post by: Darren H on January 26, 2018, 12:46:39 pm
Have been i touch with heat rod all went well till she asked me what BSP i wanted ( size thread).
Could anyone give me an idea will get the flange from tool station that says 2 .5 inch.
Title: Re: 2kw immersion heater
Post by: Michael Peterson on January 26, 2018, 04:10:52 pm
yep ive melted a plug with 3k its just not worth it, i use 4 steel pond heaters at 500w
Title: Re: 2kw immersion heater
Post by: DeLuce on January 26, 2018, 10:53:19 pm
Have been i touch with heat rod all went well till she asked me what BSP i wanted ( size thread).
Could anyone give me an idea will get the flange from tool station that says 2 .5 inch.

Standard immersion heater 2-1/4 inch BSP thread.

The male part of the fitting that goes through the cylinder has a 2-1/4 inch BSP thread, this measures about 65.7mm diameter,
Title: Re: 2kw immersion heater
Post by: P @ F on January 27, 2018, 12:36:15 pm
2kw is the most i would like to go , i put on a 2kw fan heater in my icebox connie the other day for only an hour and the lead and plug got rather hot , cable went spaghetti like .
Title: Re: 2kw immersion heater
Post by: Darren H on February 13, 2018, 06:47:45 pm
My immersion is getting fitted tomorrow.
Could anyone tell me with the mechanical flange the bit with the nipple bits on it goes inside the tank and then pull that through the drilled hole and screw the other bit to it.
Does the gasket that came with the flange go on the bit on the outside of the tank.
The immersion heater itself just has a rubber o ring on it.
Is it wise to use Pte tape and a sealant.

Thanks for any advise
Title: Re: 2kw immersion heater
Post by: paul alan on February 13, 2018, 07:40:55 pm
My immersion is getting fitted tomorrow.
Could anyone tell me with the mechanical flange the bit with the nipple bits on it goes inside the tank and then pull that through the drilled hole and screw the other bit to it.
Does the gasket that came with the flange go on the bit on the outside of the tank.
The immersion heater itself just has a rubber o ring on it.
Is it wise to use Pte tape and a sealant.

Thanks for any advise

Washer on the inside, i bought some good quality silicone and let it go off for12-24 hours.

Never leaked.
Title: Re: 2kw immersion heater
Post by: Darren H on February 13, 2018, 07:49:04 pm
This is why it asked the question if the cardboard gasket goes on the inside the little nipples on the flange will not be able to grip on the plastic of the tank so you can tighten without holding from the inside.
Title: Re: 2kw immersion heater
Post by: paul alan on February 13, 2018, 09:43:18 pm
Silicone will do it just fine, without the gasket.
Title: Re: 2kw immersion heater
Post by: Darren H on February 13, 2018, 09:48:51 pm
Did you use silicon on both sides
Title: Re: 2kw immersion heater
Post by: DeLuce on February 13, 2018, 10:20:02 pm
Belt and braces. I would. No harm if you do either 👍🏼
Title: Re: 2kw immersion heater
Post by: Slacky on February 13, 2018, 10:48:03 pm
A belt and a set of braces?

Surely you need silicone to seal it, regardless of it slipping below the waistline?
Title: Re: 2kw immersion heater
Post by: ֍Winp®oClean֍ on February 14, 2018, 12:04:09 am
Nipple part fits from the inside, push the threads through the tank wall and screw the other part to it from the outside. I have never used any sealant with the flange but PTFE the actual element threads. No washer is fitted to the nipple side. You can file a flat on the side of the nipples to aid "bite" into the tank wall if you struggle to get it to grip.👍