Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: lee_dewing on December 22, 2017, 05:18:53 pm
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As title.
Transit connect 148,000
https://www.tradervan.co.uk/used-ford-transit-connect-brentwood-essex-1411579
My old ford escort had 146,000 but 17 years old!
I think ford connects 2nd hand seem dear compared to say citoren berlingo, fiat doblo
I'm a complete numpty on most things 😁 but clueless on mechanics.
All I could do is get AA or RAC to check.
Nothing is infallible I suppose 😐
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The thing is Lee, it may have been regularly serviced, but that is a lot of wear and tear on the other components with that mileage.
I've got a 2004 T230 lwb connect which has been excellent. But it's now at the end of its working life, for me anyway. It needs new sills, brakes and has just got some electrical problem going on. It'll take me hundreds to get it through the next mot. It starting to look really tatty. So I'm upgrading to a newer van.
If you can't afford much, go for lower mileage and good service history. The Connect is a good workhorse. Can you get something newer?
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no far to dear , i would be looking for a old expert (old shape) 1.9d there flat as a fart but will do i good job and are built proof for 2k you will get a one owner low miles with full history and a pocket full of cash back
ive seen the faster hdi experts go for around 900-1600 pounds all around the 100k or lower and seviced to death face book selling pages are good for these plus you can meet the owner and test drive them
this i s where i would be looking on that budget
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As title.
Transit connect 148,000
https://www.tradervan.co.uk/used-ford-transit-connect-brentwood-essex-1411579
My old ford escort had 146,000 but 17 years old!
I think ford connects 2nd hand seem dear compared to say citoren berlingo, fiat doblo
I'm a complete numpty on most things 😁 but clueless on mechanics.
All I could do is get AA or RAC to check.
Nothing is infallible I suppose 😐
That mileage would put me right off. My last van was beyond economical repair around 130,000 miles. Although it looked a bit battered, I did pay to have it maintained properly too.
I wouldn't want to rely on a van that had done so many miles, but if I had a small fleet of vans and a larger business, it might be OK as a spare for when newer vehicles are being fixed.
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Deano is the Wise Woman on this one. (Unless it's her alter-ego Mad Man Mick using her account in which case the advice is still good! ;D)
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Rigsby.
I can goto £5000.
Was thinking ford connect; Citroen berlingo, fiat doblo, Renault kangoo, Peugeot partner, Vauxhall combo.
Thanks for the reality check everyone 😁
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Rigsby.
I can goto £5000.
Was thinking ford connect; Citroen berlingo, fiat doblo, Renault kangoo, Peugeot partner, Vauxhall combo.
Thanks for the reality check everyone 😁
you will get a decent mileage and year doblo for that budget. A Connect will always hold its value more then any of the mentioned vans.
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Thanks P1w1
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https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201710049945144?advertising-location=at_vans&search-target=usedvans&supplied-price-from=4000&supplied-price-to=5000&advertising-location=at_vans&postcode=en93na&model=DOBLO&sort=atcustomsup&page=1&radius=15&make=FIAT&version=b
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At half the price it might be ok ;)
I would second the 1.9d expert/dispatch/scudo.
I had one with 300k on, slow as a tortoise but very reliable.
I bought a later 1.6hdi one after and it was a dog, no end of issues.
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I can't praise the Doblo enough, best van I ever had! Example... I paid £3250 for an '07 when it was 3 years old. Ran it for 5 years trouble free and sold it for 2k. 5 years trouble free work hourse for £1250.
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Thanks Wolfgang 👍
Hope I have your luck if I get one.
Thanks for tips on expert, but to be honest I don't want a van that size.
I'm a one man band using 10 x 25 litre barrels, hose reel, pump box and slx 25.
Thanks everyone
Merry Christmas and happy new year 👍💃🍺
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As title.
Transit connect 148,000
https://www.tradervan.co.uk/used-ford-transit-connect-brentwood-essex-1411579
My old ford escort had 146,000 but 17 years old!
I think ford connects 2nd hand seem dear compared to say citoren berlingo, fiat doblo
I'm a complete numpty on most things 😁 but clueless on mechanics.
All I could do is get AA or RAC to check.
Nothing is infallible I suppose 😐
As per the others - mileage is way too high.
The other thing is that there's something not right with the suspension. It seems to be sitting high at the back rather than low at the front. That would put me off even if the van had lower mileage. I would be looking to see if the dented/damaged sills indicate suspension damage.
IMHO if you are considering a Connect then look at either the T220 or T230 LWB.
Also ensure that alternator light goes off on startup and that the instrument panel lights and interior lights work properly.
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https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201712222234937?advertising-location=at_vans&supplied-price-from=500&postcode=en93na&make=FORD&body-type=Panel%20Van&sort=datedesc&model=TRANSIT%20CONNECT&wheelbase=LWB&radius=1500&page=1
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Thanks Wolfgang 👍
Hope I have your luck if I get one.
Thanks for tips on expert, but to be honest I don't want a van that size.
I'm a one man band using 10 x 25 litre barrels, hose reel, pump box and slx 25.
Thanks everyone
Merry Christmas and happy new year 👍💃🍺
The old experts pre 2007 are not that big at all, similar size to a connect..they are significantly smaller than the newer 2007 on, I've had both shapes and the newer one was massive in comparison.
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Dont bother wth that one Lee, its 12 years old, and has been far and done many miles. You could be just buying someone else’s trash. As SD says, go for the Berlingo/Partner or Dispatch Expert. I had a 51 plate Berlingo,1.9 XUD engine, bullet proof as long they get a service every year. I had a Dispatch after the Berlingo, and it had the same engine in. It was a bit underpowered in the Dispatch with it being a bigger van and non turbo engine. If you go for one of those, get the 2.0 hdi turbo engine, which will give you a bit more power. The Berlingo/Partner later models came in a 1:6 hdi engine,without a turbo, but they were not as reliable as the old 1.9 XUD.
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Thanks Wolfgang 👍
Hope I have your luck if I get one.
Thanks for tips on expert, but to be honest I don't want a van that size.
I'm a one man band using 10 x 25 litre barrels, hose reel, pump box and slx 25.
Thanks everyone
Merry Christmas and happy new year 👍💃🍺
The old experts pre 2007 are not that big at all, similar size to a connect..they are significantly smaller than the newer 2007 on, I've had both shapes and the newer one was massive in comparison.
I disagree, they look smaller because they taper inwards slightly at the roof. Definitely bigger than a Connect
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Dont bother wth that one Lee, its 12 years old, and has been far and done many miles. You could be just buying someone else’s trash. As SD says, go for the Berlingo/Partner or Dispatch Expert. I had a 51 plate Berlingo,1.9 XUD engine, bullet proof as long they get a service every year. I had a Dispatch after the Berlingo, and it had the same engine in. It was a bit underpowered in the Dispatch with it being a bigger van and non turbo engine. If you go for one of those, get the 2.0 hdi turbo engine, which will give you a bit more power. The Berlingo/Partner later models came in a 1:6 hdi engine,without a turbo, but they were not as reliable as the old 1.9 XUD.
What you need to be wary of with the 'old' Dispatch, Scudo and Expert (pre 2006) is under body corrosion. The original Berlingo did have lower body galvanisation to about 6" above the lower door line, so the underneath body wise should be OK. This didn't include suspension subframe etc.
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Lee, I just sold my old swb connect 07 plate with 98K miles to my brother for 1K. I had it 11 years and all was good until the last 6 months (new clutch and starter motor and 2x sills welding); I couldn't complain.
He is a freelance MOT tester and does about 500 miles a week, but I know he'll look after it. I loved that van but needed something bigger.
I bought a Toyota Hiace (bit big for you) for 3.5K. Full service history, one owner all keys and paperwork, all mots, looks absolutely mint, high mileage though. At the moment I am well chuffed, just finished fitting it out.
I think when you are buying at that price, it's a bit of a lottery and you have to do your homework as best you can.
I liked the connect, and I think if you basically buy a good one, then any bits that go wrong can be fixed fairly cheaply.
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I sold my old connect with 240,000 miles on the clock for 1k . Full service history, well looked after but too small for me
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Dont bother wth that one Lee, its 12 years old, and has been far and done many miles. You could be just buying someone else’s trash. As SD says, go for the Berlingo/Partner or Dispatch Expert. I had a 51 plate Berlingo,1.9 XUD engine, bullet proof as long they get a service every year. I had a Dispatch after the Berlingo, and it had the same engine in. It was a bit underpowered in the Dispatch with it being a bigger van and non turbo engine. If you go for one of those, get the 2.0 hdi turbo engine, which will give you a bit more power. The Berlingo/Partner later models came in a 1:6 hdi engine,without a turbo, but they were not as reliable as the old 1.9 XUD.
What you need to be wary of with the 'old' Dispatch, Scudo and Expert (pre 2006) is under body corrosion. The original Berlingo did have lower body galvanisation to about 6" above the lower door line, so the underneath body wise should be OK. This didn't include suspension subframe etc.
Mine was 2004, with colour coded grille, so pre facelift, no rust on it when I p/x d it last year. This is why Im looking to go back to a Dispatch,newer shape one from 07 to 17, as the bodies anthem are much better than the Transit Im currently running.
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Thanks for all your advice guys.
Thanks Spruce for advice and link.
Gonna try and see this one in-between Xmas and new year.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201712081926872?advertising-location=at_vans&search-target=usedvans&supplied-price-from=3000&supplied-price-to=5000&advertising-location=at_vans&postcode=en93na&model=DOBLO&sort=atcustomsup&page=1&radius=30&make=FIAT&version=b
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Looks good but there's almost a grand to add on to that price in vat.
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That's right RPWC
I hate the way they do that +vat lark.
Just display the finished price.
Now it's 20% it's easy to work out, take off last digit and double the figure,😖
Maybe I can haggle £500 off and a free roof rack!
Imagine kipper season for sales in January but will see😖
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if you ve got 5k to spend on a van why would you spend 2k on a van with such high mileage lee? ::)roll
vans are a lottery mate.i had an old connect.cost me 2.7k and it was 9 years old at the time with 91,000 on the clock.oil pump went and seized my engine.id not had the van for 2 years! ::)roll.
before that i had an old kangoo.cost me £1400 and had it for 4 years and it had 106,000 miles on the clock when i bought it.not much trouble apart from torsion suspension bar snapping within a week after going over a speed bump!(this is before i put a 350l tank in the back!) ::)roll ;D
good luck with whatever you decide to do lee.
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if you ve got 5k to spend on a van why would you spend 2k on a van with such high mileage lee? ::)roll
vans are a lottery mate.i had an old connect.cost me 2.7k and it was 9 years old at the time with 91,000 on the clock.oil pump went and seized my engine.id not had the van for 2 years! ::)roll.
before that i had an old kangoo.cost me £1400 and had it for 4 years and it had 106,000 miles on the clock when i bought it.not much trouble apart from torsion suspension bar snapping within a week after going over a speed bump!(this is before i put a 350l tank in the back!) ::)roll ;D
good luck with whatever you decide to do lee.
My first van was a Kangoo 1.2 petrol with ansolute night,mare, only bought it as I was desperate.
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Dont bother wth that one Lee, its 12 years old, and has been far and done many miles. You could be just buying someone else’s trash. As SD says, go for the Berlingo/Partner or Dispatch Expert. I had a 51 plate Berlingo,1.9 XUD engine, bullet proof as long they get a service every year. I had a Dispatch after the Berlingo, and it had the same engine in. It was a bit underpowered in the Dispatch with it being a bigger van and non turbo engine. If you go for one of those, get the 2.0 hdi turbo engine, which will give you a bit more power. The Berlingo/Partner later models came in a 1:6 hdi engine,without a turbo, but they were not as reliable as the old 1.9 XUD.
What you need to be wary of with the 'old' Dispatch, Scudo and Expert (pre 2006) is under body corrosion. The original Berlingo did have lower body galvanisation to about 6" above the lower door line, so the underneath body wise should be OK. This didn't include suspension subframe etc.
Mine was 2004, with colour coded grille, so pre facelift, no rust on it when I p/x d it last year. This is why Im looking to go back to a Dispatch,newer shape one from 07 to 17, as the bodies anthem are much better than the Transit Im currently running.
I hate to say it as I know spruce is a bit of an expert on these things but it was my belied even the older ones were galvanised.
They was absolutely no rot on my 53 plate a couple of years ago, it had 300k in and was solid, most fords etc would have been rust buckets but this was a solid.
I'll have to double check as thought they were galvanised before 07 as well
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Yes they were
http://www.fiatprofessionalpress.co.uk/press/article/revised-scudo-van-range-in-uk
Thought so
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PSA were very hit and miss with galvanising and even the technical dept didn't know which vehicles were treated and which weren't. (I phoned the tech dept in Coventry to ask the question regarding a 2010 Relay and they couldn't tell me even with a reg number. Their eventual reply was that later Relays have better protection against rust than older models did - very non committal.)
There was no continuity with PSA. Each factory seemed to do it own thing. VW have done a better job of intergrating Skoda into the VW fold. PSA with its rebadging policy don't have the same control especially with the factories in Slovakia (C3) and the Czech Republic (Toyota in Kolin.)
Our Citroen Xsara's are galvanised and there is just a couple of rust stains at the panel joins along the back valance underneath the bumper behind the spare wheel. The Xsara Picasso has exactly the same floor pan as the std Xsara and is also galvanised dipped. But somehow there is an issue with the galvanisation reaching inside of the sills of the Picasso behind the front wheels. Most older ones have had the sill welded because of rust - an MOT failure.
My 04 plate Citroen Relay is rotting along the sills because the Italian Fiat/PSA factory's rust protection was a joke at best. They played the same game as Ford. All they expect from a commercial vehicle is 5 years, where private buyers expect a longer body life.
Its only since 2006 that the 'new' generation of Relays/Boxers/Ducatos are galvanised dipped. They also never publicize this as it would mean they admit that the rust protection they did on previous models wasn't good enough with the potential for warranty claims.
If it was up to the manufacturers, none of them would protect against rust. Its just the EU has stipulated that manufacturers have got to improve the standard of protection, so they are forced to.
So if you are buying something older, then you have to get it inspected by an expect before you sign on the dotted line.
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Yes they were
http://www.fiatprofessionalpress.co.uk/press/article/revised-scudo-van-range-in-uk
Thought so
:)
This is the facelift model so that's great. The previous model (prefacelift) definitely wasn't galvanised. Strangely though as there aren't many of them left.
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2006-Citroen-Dispatch-2-0-hdi-FSH-EX-UTILITY-80K-MILES-as-Peugeot-Partner/322926041748?hash=item4b2fe45a94:g:r0UAAOSwLJ9aKCZK
not cheap at £2995 + VAT.
Would need to check out the last MOT's advisories.
Offside Front Lower Suspension arm has slight play in a pin/bush (2.4.G.2)
Play in inner rack joints
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My 2.0 litre Expert is 04 plate and galvanised......bodywork is solid.
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Hi Daz, I haven't got £5000 + would be bank loan.
Yep cheap van a lottery as I have no knowledge of mechanics, a dangerous game to play.
Some good personal loans available.
Thanks everyone for the advice, thanks Spruce for you wealth of knowledge 👍
Haven't checked my euro lottery ticket yet 😁