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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: DeLuce on December 09, 2017, 06:17:29 pm
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Howdy!
Out of interest, has anybody tried these latest offerings from Exceed Innovation? The hose connectors to replace a rectus fitting.
If so, would you mind giving a review? Or will I have to buy some and review them?? ;D
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just ordered some, should be here in a few days, from what people say they seem good, and robust
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I bought a pair to see what like they were.
They were far too stiff to connect/disconnect. I guess that's fine if you use some sort of tap - aquadapter type thingamajig but I don't.
I use rectus 26ka fittings, I have yet to see anything better. Although well designed and thought out, compared to sturdy brass rectus fittings they feel cheap - lightweight. If they were cheaper it might be worth trialling them properly.
They joined the pile of crap I've bought but never used.
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Thanks bob and Soupy.
Mmmm, doesn't sound too good from you Soupy.
Hopefully get a few more trying them out and see what the general consensus will be. :D
Thanks.
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Bought one, bigger than you might expect. I'd recently changed to a DIY hoseless set up and it worked OK. Still got stuck on stuff but not as much as the protectaballs.
I've started to use straight inline connectors 8mm to 6mm with no clips as the fit is really tight (lot's of hot water needed). I consider it a bad day if the hose snags more than 3 or 4 times now. It used to be 3 or4 times a job.
(https://www.advancedfluidsolutions.co.uk/ekmps/shops/afsonline/images/8mm-x-6mm-reducing-straight-tefen-hose-joiner-connector-blue-nylon-fitting-3806-p[ekm]300x300[ekm].jpg)
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I've had some for about three weeks now. I can't fault them. Easy to connect and disconnect. And the V shape means the drag on the floor without getting caught in every thing. The best bit is the actual connectors are protected inside from dirt and damage, so hopefully they will last a long time also.
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Cheers LB. I think I'll give them a go. See if they suit me.
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What are they actually meant to connect , from what to what ?
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Bought one, bigger than you might expect. I'd recently changed to a DIY hoseless set up and it worked OK. Still got stuck on stuff but not as much as the protectaballs.
I've started to use straight inline connectors 8mm to 6mm with no clips as the fit is really tight (lot's of hot water needed). I consider it a bad day if the hose snags more than 3 or 4 times now. It used to be 3 or4 times a job.
(https://www.advancedfluidsolutions.co.uk/ekmps/shops/afsonline/images/8mm-x-6mm-reducing-straight-tefen-hose-joiner-connector-blue-nylon-fitting-3806-p[ekm]300x300[ekm].jpg)
Do you connect micro bore on the 8 side and pole hose on the 6 side , does it stay without clips , and most important are you running hot ?
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What are they actually meant to connect , from what to what ?
It's hose ends.
Hose reel > pole hose.
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Bought one, bigger than you might expect. I'd recently changed to a DIY hoseless set up and it worked OK. Still got stuck on stuff but not as much as the protectaballs.
I've started to use straight inline connectors 8mm to 6mm with no clips as the fit is really tight (lot's of hot water needed). I consider it a bad day if the hose snags more than 3 or 4 times now. It used to be 3 or4 times a job.
(https://www.advancedfluidsolutions.co.uk/ekmps/shops/afsonline/images/8mm-x-6mm-reducing-straight-tefen-hose-joiner-connector-blue-nylon-fitting-3806-p[ekm]300x300[ekm].jpg)
Can I ask how you did the diy hoseless?
That’s a good idea with the barb fitting you have, means all your hose reels back onto the reel during the day too which would save me a bit of time. Im Always looking for more efficiency.
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Bought one, bigger than you might expect. I'd recently changed to a DIY hoseless set up and it worked OK. Still got stuck on stuff but not as much as the protectaballs.
I've started to use straight inline connectors 8mm to 6mm with no clips as the fit is really tight (lot's of hot water needed). I consider it a bad day if the hose snags more than 3 or 4 times now. It used to be 3 or4 times a job.
(https://www.advancedfluidsolutions.co.uk/ekmps/shops/afsonline/images/8mm-x-6mm-reducing-straight-tefen-hose-joiner-connector-blue-nylon-fitting-3806-p[ekm]300x300[ekm].jpg)
Can I ask how you did the diy hoseless?
That’s a good idea with the barb fitting you have, means all your hose reels back onto the reel during the day too which would save me a bit of time. Im Always looking for more efficiency.
Johnny I’ve been ‘hoseless’ For a couple of years, I use:
8mm to 6mm brass barb from mini bore to pole hose,
then a john guest straight fit from pole hose into the pole (the pole has about 8 inches of pole hose sticking out ready to be clipped into the John guest fitting)
It’s simple and works brilliantly!
Means all the pole hose gets wound onto the reel, and I can take sections on and off so easily whilst working, give it a go ;)
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I bought a pair to see what like they were.
They were far too stiff to connect/disconnect. I guess that's fine if you use some sort of tap - aquadapter type thingamajig but I don't.
I use rectus 26ka fittings, I have yet to see anything better. Although well designed and thought out, compared to sturdy brass rectus fittings they feel cheap - lightweight. If they were cheaper it might be worth trialling them properly.
They joined the pile of crap I've bought but never used.
Steve has some lubricant for sale to make the connection/disconnection easier Soupy. In my experience, any lubrication has dirt stick to it which kind of defeats its original purpose.
Someone else on the forum complained that once set up they couldn't be removed from the hose it was fitted to.
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1512896850_bn-exceed-slick-new-01.jpg)
I guessing that he is refering to the photo on the bottom left. It shows a slot and thenn a square recess just above it. I would imagine those are locating points. I'm interested to know if the other windies experience is correct.
The other thing that 'concerns' me is the "O" ring. Is it a standard off the self size one or an odd ball one? The reason for this concern is that he has already fitted a none off the shelf "O" ring inside the Univalve. I haven't seen a listing on his site for a replacement "O" ring.
I honestly really like the concept, but to make all the equipment interchangeable it will cost me a small fortune to do. On the other hand, since we have been using Steve's 360 protector, we haven't had the replace Rectus fittings since.
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I understand that Steve from Exceed is running a business and needs to make a profit.
But I've been noticing recently that his consumable items are way overpriced compared to other sources.
I needed to buy some o clips recently and 10 including postage were just under a tenner on his site.
So I bought 10 from an Ebay seller for £2 including delivery.
There's been one or two other times were I feel I've paid well over market value for items from him and unless it's an item I can't get from another source I always shop elsewhere now.
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Bought one, bigger than you might expect. I'd recently changed to a DIY hoseless set up and it worked OK. Still got stuck on stuff but not as much as the protectaballs.
I've started to use straight inline connectors 8mm to 6mm with no clips as the fit is really tight (lot's of hot water needed). I consider it a bad day if the hose snags more than 3 or 4 times now. It used to be 3 or4 times a job.
(https://www.advancedfluidsolutions.co.uk/ekmps/shops/afsonline/images/8mm-x-6mm-reducing-straight-tefen-hose-joiner-connector-blue-nylon-fitting-3806-p[ekm]300x300[ekm].jpg)
Can I ask how you did the diy hoseless?
That’s a good idea with the barb fitting you have, means all your hose reels back onto the reel during the day too which would save me a bit of time. Im Always looking for more efficiency.
Johnny I’ve been ‘hoseless’ For a couple of years, I use:
8mm to 6mm brass barb from mini bore to pole hose,
then a john guest straight fit from pole hose into the pole (the pole has about 8 inches of pole hose sticking out ready to be clipped into the John guest fitting)
It’s simple and works brilliantly!
Means all the pole hose gets wound onto the reel, and I can take sections on and off so easily whilst working, give it a go ;)
sounds great but what stops the water flow when you disconnect?
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there way to big and just not as good as i thought they were going to be from stev , if he made them the same size as the ez oo the 21s they would be so much better
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there way to big and just not as good as i thought they were going to be from stev , if he made them the same size as the ez oo the 21s they would be so much better
That will be the MK2 and MK3 versions Susan and they won't be interchangeable. ;D
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I bought a pair to see what like they were.
They were far too stiff to connect/disconnect. I guess that's fine if you use some sort of tap - aquadapter type thingamajig but I don't.
I use rectus 26ka fittings, I have yet to see anything better. Although well designed and thought out, compared to sturdy brass rectus fittings they feel cheap - lightweight. If they were cheaper it might be worth trialling them properly.
They joined the pile of crap I've bought but never used.
Steve has some lubricant for sale to make the connection/disconnection easier Soupy. In my experience, any lubrication has dirt stick to it which kind of defeats its original purpose.
Someone else on the forum complained that once set up they couldn't be removed from the hose it was fitted to.
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1512896850_bn-exceed-slick-new-01.jpg)
I guessing that he is refering to the photo on the bottom left. It shows a slot and thenn a square recess just above it. I would imagine those are locating points. I'm interested to know if the other windies experience is correct.
The other thing that 'concerns' me is the "O" ring. Is it a standard off the self size one or an odd ball one? The reason for this concern is that he has already fitted a none off the shelf "O" ring inside the Univalve. I haven't seen a listing on his site for a replacement "O" ring.
I honestly really like the concept, but to make all the equipment interchangeable it will cost me a small fortune to do. On the other hand, since we have been using Steve's 360 protector, we haven't had the replace Rectus fittings since.
That's what I was thinking! I like the concept, but how do they perform in real life situation.
I hadn't thought about the 'o' ring replacement, good point!!
But, the cack getting between the connector joint and twist connection, I did wonder about that as an issue longer term.
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Out of interest, would this connector go up inside the pole tube as a Rectus fitting, or is it too bulky?
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Too bulky.
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Too bulky.
OK, thanks Soupy 👍
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Bought one, bigger than you might expect. I'd recently changed to a DIY hoseless set up and it worked O8K. Still got stuck on stuff but not as much as the protectaballs.
I've started to use straight inline connectors 8mm to 6mm with no clips as the fit is really tight (lot's of hot water needed). I consider it a bad day if the hose snags more than 3 or 4 times now. It used to be 3 or4 times a job.
(https://www.advancedfluidsolutions.co.uk/ekmps/shops/afsonline/images/8mm-x-6mm-reducing-straight-tefen-hose-joiner-connector-blue-nylon-fitting-3806-p[ekm]300x300[ekm].jpg)
How do you change poles if the pole hose and the microbore are permanently connected? Or do you permanently use the same pole?
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Bought one, bigger than you might expect. I'd recently changed to a DIY hoseless set up and it worked OK. Still got stuck on stuff but not as much as the protectaballs.
I've started to use straight inline connectors 8mm to 6mm with no clips as the fit is really tight (lot's of hot water needed). I consider it a bad day if the hose snags more than 3 or 4 times now. It used to be 3 or4 times a job.
(https://www.advancedfluidsolutions.co.uk/ekmps/shops/afsonline/images/8mm-x-6mm-reducing-straight-tefen-hose-joiner-connector-blue-nylon-fitting-3806-p[ekm]300x300[ekm].jpg)
Do you connect micro bore on the 8 side and pole hose on the 6 side , does it stay without clips , and most important are you running hot ?
Yep micro on the 8mm and Gardiner green PU on the 6mm stays without clips no problem. Don't use hot water.
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Bought one, bigger than you might expect. I'd recently changed to a DIY hoseless set up and it worked OK. Still got stuck on stuff but not as much as the protectaballs.
I've started to use straight inline connectors 8mm to 6mm with no clips as the fit is really tight (lot's of hot water needed). I consider it a bad day if the hose snags more than 3 or 4 times now. It used to be 3 or4 times a job.
(https://www.advancedfluidsolutions.co.uk/ekmps/shops/afsonline/images/8mm-x-6mm-reducing-straight-tefen-hose-joiner-connector-blue-nylon-fitting-3806-p[ekm]300x300[ekm].jpg)
Can I ask how you did the diy hoseless?
That’s a good idea with the barb fitting you have, means all your hose reels back onto the reel during the day too which would save me a bit of time. Im Always looking for more efficiency.
I copied what's in the you tube vid below. But I also used a washer at the top as well where the pole hose exits the gooseneck. Did it to the 4 poles I have in the van and have to say it's been the best thing I've done. Neater and tidier a bit quicker and no water dripping everywhere.
https://youtu.be/lPFwRnTdMho
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Bought one, bigger than you might expect. I'd recently changed to a DIY hoseless set up and it worked O8K. Still got stuck on stuff but not as much as the protectaballs.
I've started to use straight inline connectors 8mm to 6mm with no clips as the fit is really tight (lot's of hot water needed). I consider it a bad day if the hose snags more than 3 or 4 times now. It used to be 3 or4 times a job.
(https://www.advancedfluidsolutions.co.uk/ekmps/shops/afsonline/images/8mm-x-6mm-reducing-straight-tefen-hose-joiner-connector-blue-nylon-fitting-3806-p[ekm]300x300[ekm].jpg)
How do you change poles if the pole hose and the microbore are permanently connected? Or do you permanently use the same pole?
Did the hoseless conversion in the vid above so rectus 21 on the end of the pole hose thats connected to the microbore then connects to any of the poles that have the rectus male sat at the bottom of section 1.
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Bought one, bigger than you might expect. I'd recently changed to a DIY hoseless set up and it worked O8K. Still got stuck on stuff but not as much as the protectaballs.
I've started to use straight inline connectors 8mm to 6mm with no clips as the fit is really tight (lot's of hot water needed). I consider it a bad day if the hose snags more than 3 or 4 times now. It used to be 3 or4 times a job.
(https://www.advancedfluidsolutions.co.uk/ekmps/shops/afsonline/images/8mm-x-6mm-reducing-straight-tefen-hose-joiner-connector-blue-nylon-fitting-3806-p[ekm]300x300[ekm].jpg)
How do you change poles if the pole hose and the microbore are permanently connected? Or do you permanently use the same pole?
Did the hoseless conversion in the vid above so rectus 21 on the end of the pole hose thats connected to the microbore then connects to any of the poles that have the rectus male sat at the bottom of section 1.
we dont do it like this due to using the uni-value we have two inc tails hanging from the bottom of the closed pole , same idear as the video but no need for the extra washer and clip at the top