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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: nathankaye on November 24, 2017, 09:53:29 am
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Many beneficial benefits of using hot water, but a side benefit which i like, is seeing the steam on a clean on a cold morning.
Sadly I couldn't film cleaning a skyline window in a roof as I needed 2 hands on the pole but that was great viewing. So this will have to do
https://youtu.be/v0CeiiO5qoM
So come on chaps, lets have a thread showing the steam from our hot water on tbese cold days, just for the fun of it
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Its takes very little to amuse the innocent. lol.
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Lifes serious enough, its finding joy in the little things that keep you smiling through it all.
Lol I smile alot ;D
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loved using my hot this morning could just feel the pole radiating heat slightly and i dont use it on high temps at all after cracking a window a few years ago!!
definately feel like im getting through work faster though whether its a mind thing im not sure but every year just feels a tad faster than using cold like everything is loose pipewise and the brush glides a tad faster on the glass :-\
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I haven't started using it yet this year, but when I do it really takes the edge off those really cold grey days. It's like having sunshine in my hands
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Many beneficial benefits of using hot water, but a side benefit which i like, is seeing the steam on a clean on a cold morning.
Sadly I couldn't film cleaning a skyline window in a roof as I needed 2 hands on the pole but that was great viewing. So this will have to do
https://youtu.be/v0CeiiO5qoM
So come on chaps, lets have a thread showing the steam from our hot water on tbese cold days, just for the fun of it
what temp is that?
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Many beneficial benefits of using hot water, but a side benefit which i like, is seeing the steam on a clean on a cold morning.
Sadly I couldn't film cleaning a skyline window in a roof as I needed 2 hands on the pole but that was great viewing. So this will have to do
https://youtu.be/v0CeiiO5qoM
So come on chaps, lets have a thread showing the steam from our hot water on tbese cold days, just for the fun of it
what temp is that?
The temp in tbe tank was 65.3 so it was probably between 50 - 55?? Didnt take a reading
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personally i think 50-55 is too hot for a cold day(4c-5c).ill be keeping mine at 30-35 to reduce the chance of cracking a pane.
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personally i think 50-55 is too hot for a cold day(4c-5c).ill be keeping mine at 30-35 to reduce the chance of cracking a pane.
We don’t get much very cold weather but we run ours flat out Evan with a heavy frost , funny thing is I’ve only ever cracked one pain of glass and that was on a hot summers day !!!!!
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personally i think 50-55 is too hot for a cold day(4c-5c).ill be keeping mine at 30-35 to reduce the chance of cracking a pane.
We don’t get much very cold weather but we run ours flat out Evan with a heavy frost , funny thing is I’ve only ever cracked one pain of glass and that was on a hot summers day !!!!!
ive had a few skylights creaking on a cold day with the hot water! ::)roll ;D
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Funnily enough we had a top opener crack from corner to corner on a conservatory this summer cold water on what I guess must have been extremely hot glass from the sun
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Many beneficial benefits of using hot water, but a side benefit which i like, is seeing the steam on a clean on a cold morning.
Sadly I couldn't film cleaning a skyline window in a roof as I needed 2 hands on the pole but that was great viewing. So this will have to do
https://youtu.be/v0CeiiO5qoM
So come on chaps, lets have a thread showing the steam from our hot water on tbese cold days, just for the fun of it
what temp is that?
The temp in tbe tank was 65.3 so it was probably between 50 - 55?? Didnt take a reading
with your immersion??
I have 1 fitted to my tank, may just give it a whirl to see if it works.
what kw rating is yours?
how long do you have to leave it on? mines a 650lt tank, whats yours?
cheers Nathan.
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Many beneficial benefits of using hot water, but a side benefit which i like, is seeing the steam on a clean on a cold morning.
Sadly I couldn't film cleaning a skyline window in a roof as I needed 2 hands on the pole but that was great viewing. So this will have to do
https://youtu.be/v0CeiiO5qoM
So come on chaps, lets have a thread showing the steam from our hot water on tbese cold days, just for the fun of it
what temp is that?
The temp in tbe tank was 65.3 so it was probably between 50 - 55?? Didnt take a reading
with your immersion??
I have 1 fitted to my tank, may just give it a whirl to see if it works.
what kw rating is yours?
how long do you have to leave it on? mines a 650lt tank, whats yours?
cheers Nathan.
I ordered a 1kw and as far as I know, I had a 1kw one delivered (u may kno i get accused of being wrong)
It mostly depends on the start temp of my tank as to how long I leave it on for. To be honest im thinking of getting my hands on a 27inch 2kw one to replace it with.
I also switched my electric tarrif to a day n night one which helps with the bill.
My tank is 500ltrs, i very rarely use it all so I may have 300 - 200 ltrs left at the end of the day. Which could mean the difference from a starting temp of around 20 degrees to being more 36 upwards.
If im filling tank sunday night, then thd start up is around 20 degrees or less and I would turn it on between 6-7pm sunday and turn off between 7.30-8 am monday. This gets me between 55 - - 63/65ish pending start temp.
If my start temp is around 40's then I dont turn it on till about 9pm
What length element n kw have you got fitted?
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Paul was going to give you a heads up on Nathans findings but never get tired of reading his replies, lol,
Gold has a thread on his 3kw immersion findings, its about three pages back, worth a read if your interested in going down that route.
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Many beneficial benefits of using hot water, but a side benefit which i like, is seeing the steam on a clean on a cold morning.
Sadly I couldn't film cleaning a skyline window in a roof as I needed 2 hands on the pole but that was great viewing. So this will have to do
https://youtu.be/v0CeiiO5qoM
So come on chaps, lets have a thread showing the steam from our hot water on tbese cold days, just for the fun of it
what temp is that?
The temp in tbe tank was 65.3 so it was probably between 50 - 55?? Didnt take a reading
with your immersion??
I have 1 fitted to my tank, may just give it a whirl to see if it works.
what kw rating is yours?
how long do you have to leave it on? mines a 650lt tank, whats yours?
cheers Nathan.
I ordered a 1kw and as far as I know, I had a 1kw one delivered (u may kno i get accused of being wrong)
It mostly depends on the start temp of my tank as to how long I leave it on for. To be honest im thinking of getting my hands on a 27inch 2kw one to replace it with.
I also switched my electric tarrif to a day n night one which helps with the bill.
My tank is 500ltrs, i very rarely use it all so I may have 300 - 200 ltrs left at the end of the day. Which could mean the difference from a starting temp of around 20 degrees to being more 36 upwards.
If im filling tank sunday night, then thd start up is around 20 degrees or less and I would turn it on between 6-7pm sunday and turn off between 7.30-8 am monday. This gets me between 55 - - 63/65ish pending start temp.
If my start temp is around 40's then I dont turn it on till about 9pm
What length element n kw have you got fitted?
not really sure, I think its either 2 or 3kw( will go look!) its a 3kw at 240v and 2.7 at 230v so its 2.7kw as were all 230v now.
I think the length is around 10-14" but cant see as I plumbers mate'd the lid on and its tough to get off now.
One thing concerns me is I have some drainage pipe in the tank for baffle, will probably touch the element at some point. Would this cause some melting?
It doesn't seem to have a stat on it either, suppose I would have to run some tests on it and possibly add a timer to control the temps through timings.
How about insulation, do you find tank insulation prevents the rest of the van/equipment benefiting from having heat in the back of the van on a very cold night with regards frost protection for the hoses pumps etc?
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Paul was going to give you a heads up on Nathans findings but never get tired of reading his replies, lol,
Gold has a thread on his 3kw immersion findings, its about three pages back, worth a read if your interested in going down that route.
Cheers, I'll go have a mooch.
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Paul was going to give you a heads up on Nathans findings but never get tired of reading his replies, lol,
Gold has a thread on his 3kw immersion findings, its about three pages back, worth a read if your interested in going down that route.
I believe u criticised points on that thread as well buddy.
I was going to follow in his foot steps, as I know my findings are different, especially as far as van temp is concerned. I can now roughly tell how hot the water tank is by tbe heat that hits me when I open the van's side door. But that could be down to different insulation perhaps. I cant recall his tank size or orientation of tank.
Paul, my tank is simply wrapped in silver backed bubble wrap type insulation. I've wrapped the whole tank apart from the bottom of it. Its a wydale upright tank. It gives offplenty of heat; put it this way, if my scrims are wet (from washing them) I lay them open on top of my tank and they soon dry.
It helps that my van has a fan on the roof, which I need to turn on (if i remember to do so) to get rid of the heat as I drive to my first job to get rid of condensation
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Cheer's, think I'm gonna give it a shot some night. it's got 1 of them caravan type plugs on the cord so will cut it off and stick a 3 pin plug on it.
Thanks for the advice!
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Paul was going to give you a heads up on Nathans findings but never get tired of reading his replies, lol,
Gold has a thread on his 3kw immersion findings, its about three pages back, worth a read if your interested in going down that route.
I believe u criticised points on that thread as well buddy.
I was going to follow in his foot steps, as I know my findings are different, especially as far as van temp is concerned. I can now roughly tell how hot the water tank is by tbe heat that hits me when I open the van's side door. But that could be down to different insulation perhaps. I cant recall his tank size or orientation of tank.
Paul, my tank is simply wrapped in silver backed bubble wrap type insulation. I've wrapped the whole tank apart from the bottom of it. Its a wydale upright tank. It gives offplenty of heat; put it this way, if my scrims are wet (from washing them) I lay them open on top of my tank and they soon dry.
It helps that my van has a fan on the roof, which I need to turn on (if i remember to do so) to get rid of the heat as I drive to my first job to get rid of condensation
His first findings didn't really coincide with the science facts but overall he wasn't far away from what would be expected, that said its never going to be spot on with the equipment we use to measure and the way the water is stored, as for your findings, only a complete and utter idiot would think a 1kw heater could get the results your getting.
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Cheer's, think I'm gonna give it a shot some night. it's got 1 of them caravan type plugs on the cord so will cut it off and stick a 3 pin plug on it.
Thanks for the advice!
I take it you are at the wind up re sticking a 3 pin plug on it ;D
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Facts are facts arent they? For the very reason that they cant be questioned or else it cant be classed as fact. Yet here we are talking of variables and close enough given this reason or that reason.
Yet according to facts written they often conflict with results seen........ Haha look at the england football club to begin witb lol or even brexit etc etc and political so called facts
;D
??? ??? ??? ??? ??? What are you on about
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I’m guessing you create your pure water in the garage into a big tank then transfer it into the van ( well this is the system I last saw from a guy I bought some kit off) if you want hot water to begin the day would a diesel hotbox in the garage be a good idea? then you can pump through it into the van and you will have steaming hot water to start the day. If your tank is insulated it would stay nearly hot all day
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Cheer's, think I'm gonna give it a shot some night. it's got 1 of them caravan type plugs on the cord so will cut it off and stick a 3 pin plug on it.
Thanks for the advice!
I take it you are at the wind up re sticking a 3 pin plug on it ;D
take it that's a bad idea??
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I’m guessing you create your pure water in the garage into a big tank then transfer it into the van ( well this is the system I last saw from a guy I bought some kit off) if you want hot water to begin the day would a diesel hotbox in the garage be a good idea? then you can pump through it into the van and you will have steaming hot water to start the day. If your tank is insulated it would stay nearly hot all day
its a good idea!
I was looking at the boiler in the house and wandering if I could somehow pump it from the ibc through the boiler and into the van.
I would need to tee into the incoming supply to the boiler and then into the outgoing and route that off to the tank, possibly a 100psi delivery pump may give enough flow or maybe something a little stronger that will be like the the tap pressure at home??
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but that may possibly alter the tds, unless I was to run from the boiler through the di??
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Paul Alan......DO NOT CUT THE PLUG OFF!!!!! That is a 16amp plug and cable and is what you need an electrician to wire you up from the house consumer unit to meet it. If the element is 3kw, which is standard then you risk burning you house down with a 13amp three pin plug!!
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Paul Alan......DO NOT CUT THE PLUG OFF!!!!! That is a 16amp plug and cable and is what you need an electrician to wire you up from the house consumer unit to meet it. If the element is 3kw, which is standard then you risk burning you house down with a 13amp three pin plug!!
cheers peavey, may be a job for the professionals!
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I’m guessing you create your pure water in the garage into a big tank then transfer it into the van ( well this is the system I last saw from a guy I bought some kit off) if you want hot water to begin the day would a diesel hotbox in the garage be a good idea? then you can pump through it into the van and you will have steaming hot water to start the day. If your tank is insulated it would stay nearly hot all day
This initially sounds a good idea, but...... How much water and how fast can you run it through. Because i use a 150ltr transfer pump from ibc to van tank.
I would suspect to run from an ibc tank through a boiler or diesel heater into a van tank would take a very long time. Unless..... Using a booster pump the likes of what van mounts use??
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I’m guessing you create your pure water in the garage into a big tank then transfer it into the van ( well this is the system I last saw from a guy I bought some kit off) if you want hot water to begin the day would a diesel hotbox in the garage be a good idea? then you can pump through it into the van and you will have steaming hot water to start the day. If your tank is insulated it would stay nearly hot all day
This initially sounds a good idea, but...... How much water and how fast can you run it through. Because i use a 150ltr transfer pump from ibc to van tank.
I would suspect to run from an ibc tank through a boiler or diesel heater into a van tank would take a very long time. Unless..... Using a booster pump the likes of what van mounts use??
lots of us dont have garages (or the need for an RO due to very low tap tds)so its not a viable option.
i have heard of window cleaners using gas heaters to fill barrels at home so i dont see why you couldnt fill a tank if you so wish
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I’m guessing you create your pure water in the garage into a big tank then transfer it into the van ( well this is the system I last saw from a guy I bought some kit off) if you want hot water to begin the day would a diesel hotbox in the garage be a good idea? then you can pump through it into the van and you will have steaming hot water to start the day. If your tank is insulated it would stay nearly hot all day
This initially sounds a good idea, but...... How much water and how fast can you run it through. Because i use a 150ltr transfer pump from ibc to van tank.
I would suspect to run from an ibc tank through a boiler or diesel heater into a van tank would take a very long time. Unless..... Using a booster pump the likes of what van mounts use??
I use one similar to this one, it’s rated at 21lt a min, so I would guess it will boil 21lts in a minute, so would theoretically fill a 100gl tank in 25 minutes.
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