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Title: Hypo , where to buy
Post by: tom20001 on November 23, 2017, 09:12:14 pm
Im in ireland lads and after googling several swimming suppliers and farmers suppliers and cant find sodium hydochorite anyplace 🤔🤔
Title: Re: Hypo , where to buy
Post by: Matt. on November 23, 2017, 09:14:22 pm
not sure of anywere in Ireland but plenty of local suppliers in Liverpool
Title: Re: Hypo , where to buy
Post by: tom20001 on November 23, 2017, 09:18:22 pm
not sure of anywere in Ireland but plenty of local suppliers in Liverpool

Would they ship that stuff?
Title: Re: Hypo , where to buy
Post by: Matt. on November 23, 2017, 09:22:44 pm
Possibly mate, don't know about Ireland but I have found that it's quite expensive to have it couriered.

May work out cheaper to collect a large amount in ya van
Title: Re: Hypo , where to buy
Post by: Splash & dash on November 23, 2017, 09:24:43 pm
At farm supply stores it’s called dairy hypochlorite there must be somewhere near you that sell it
Title: Re: Hypo , where to buy
Post by: tom20001 on November 23, 2017, 09:30:15 pm
At farm supply stores it’s called dairy hypochlorite there must be somewhere near you that sell it

Il try search for that now mate, thanks
Title: Re: Hypo , where to buy
Post by: tom20001 on November 23, 2017, 09:37:42 pm
Reflections you are a diamond 👍👍

 Its €8 quid for 5 Litres and its 10/11%  that sound about right ?
Title: Re: Hypo , where to buy
Post by: tom20001 on November 23, 2017, 10:46:18 pm
10/11% sodium hypochlorite solution for use as a sanitiser/concrete cleaner.........


The above is spec on hypo for sale.....is benz concentrate the same % as this?
Title: Re: Hypo , where to buy
Post by: Splash & dash on November 23, 2017, 10:51:32 pm
Reflections you are a diamond 👍👍

 Its €8 quid for 5 Litres and its 10/11%  that sound about right ?




We have it hear in 20 ltr drums at 10% strength for £15 , just go carefull with it add the hypo to water not the other way round and use appropriate ppe it’s very good stuff
Have t used the Benz stuff I have Hurd good reports on it but it’s very expensive to the best of my knowledge it’s just hypo with a surfactant added and you pay a premium for it but maybe if you only use a small amount it might be worth it
Title: Re: Hypo , where to buy
Post by: tom20001 on November 23, 2017, 11:11:12 pm
Reflections you are a diamond 👍👍

 Its €8 quid for 5 Litres and its 10/11%  that sound about right ?

yep ive used the benz stuff but this way its less than half the price

how do i make the quats mixture now?!! where do i find quats concentrate ......

trying to get more work softwashing in new year its a nice change from windows few days a month

thanks for help pal



We have it hear in 20 ltr drums at 10% strength for £15 , just go carefull with it add the hypo to water not the other way round and use appropriate ppe it’s very good stuff
Have t used the Benz stuff I have Hurd good reports on it but it’s very expensive to the best of my knowledge it’s just hypo with a surfactant added and you pay a premium for it but maybe if you only use a small amount it might be worth it
Title: Re: Hypo , where to buy
Post by: Slacky on November 24, 2017, 12:19:43 am
This is a serious response, but if you go via the agricultural route it’s probably called ‘teat dip”.
Title: Re: Hypo , where to buy
Post by: rosskesava on November 24, 2017, 01:44:29 am
I cannot believe their is not there is not a supplier of sodium hypo-chloride anywhere in Ireland.

It's not like it's something obscure or unusual. Almost any cleaning supplies outlet will sell it. It may have various trade names but it will be written on the label what it is.
Title: Re: Hypo , where to buy
Post by: Splash & dash on November 24, 2017, 06:12:19 pm
Reflections you are a diamond 👍👍

 Its €8 quid for 5 Litres and its 10/11%  that sound about right ?

yep ive used the benz stuff but this way its less than half the price

how do i make the quats mixture now?!! where do i find quats concentrate ......

trying to get more work softwashing in new year its a nice change from windows few days a month

thanks for help pal



We have it hear in 20 ltr drums at 10% strength for £15 , just go carefull with it add the hypo to water not the other way round and use appropriate ppe it’s very good stuff
Have t used the Benz stuff I have Hurd good reports on it but it’s very expensive to the best of my knowledge it’s just hypo with a surfactant added and you pay a premium for it but maybe if you only use a small amount it might be worth it









Quats is a bit different we use algo clear pro it’s not the cheapest but it’s got a good track record and I feel confident selling what it will do to the customer , there are a number of this type of product on the market Ime sure others will say are just as good
Title: Re: Hypo , where to buy
Post by: tom20001 on November 24, 2017, 06:34:05 pm
So its a safer bet not to try make the quats one diy and just buy benz biocidal as per normal reflections?
Title: Re: Hypo , where to buy
Post by: Splash & dash on November 24, 2017, 06:43:33 pm
So its a safer bet not to try make the quats one diy and just buy benz biocidal as per normal reflections?


We usually hypo a job clean it then apply  algo clear pro as a preventative , I tested this approach on my own house doing half with just hypo , the other half treated with algo clear after hypo wash down , this side did stay looking algy clear for about 10 months longer , we have done some properties with just the algo clear and allowing nature and time to do its thing it’s ok but I still feel you get better results by using hypo and washing it down
Title: Re: Hypo , where to buy
Post by: tom20001 on November 24, 2017, 07:11:31 pm
Thanks reflections, obvs im still learning about softwashing even though ive been dabbling in it a bit this year. Plan to get a lot more into it next year.

I dont want to open a can of worms but say an average 3 bed semi if you were to hypo gable end and then algoclear to prevent how much would you charge? I done a reasonably big detached house earlier this yr in blackwash only and charged €250 but obvs i wanting experience in softwashing so need houses tonget that on...

If my thirst for knowledge is becoming annoying feel free to tell me to p%ss off 🙈🙈🙈
Title: Re: Hypo , where to buy
Post by: davids3511 on November 25, 2017, 02:53:49 pm
I cannot believe their is not there is not a supplier of sodium hypo-chloride anywhere in Ireland.

It's not like it's something obscure or unusual. Almost any cleaning supplies outlet will sell it. It may have various trade names but it will be written on the label what it is.
There is, there's one in Navan at least.
Title: Re: Hypo , where to buy
Post by: Splash & dash on November 25, 2017, 04:49:41 pm
Thanks reflections, obvs im still learning about softwashing even though ive been dabbling in it a bit this year. Plan to get a lot more into it next year.

I dont want to open a can of worms but say an average 3 bed semi if you were to hypo gable end and then algoclear to prevent how much would you charge? I done a reasonably big detached house earlier this yr in blackwash only and charged €250 but obvs i wanting experience in softwashing so need houses tonget that on...





No that’s fine it’s the only way we all learn we have been doing it about 4-5 years or so prices with us start from £250 for a 3 bed semi when I started I charged £200 but this is to cheap biggest job we did was £1500 6 bed detached but that included pressure washing paths and decking
If you are just doing a gable end price wise I would say £60-90 we tend to have some hypo in a drum left over from a previous job that’s already paid for so there’s little or no materials to add to the job price, however it’s a pain just doing a gable end and having to flush back pack and sprayer la ce thtough for such a small job but an avarage gable end shouldn’t take more than one to one and a half hours tops so it’s not bad money , hope this helps

If my thirst for knowledge is becoming annoying feel free to tell me to p%ss off 🙈🙈🙈
Title: Re: Hypo , where to buy
Post by: Splash & dash on November 25, 2017, 04:53:16 pm
Just noticed you said about algo clear after treatment we would charge extra for that probebly £40-50  again usually we have stuff left over from a previous job so it’s already paid for to spray the gable end won’t take more than 10 muinets
I certainly don’t class myself as an expert with soft washing we do do quite a bit of it but Ime still learning all the time a lot of people are very unhelpful and say it’s dangerous and you shouldn’t do this or that and won’t offer any help they just criticise I feel it’s good to share good and bad things as we will all learn and benefit from each other’s experience some treat softwashing like a black art just like ss did with solar panel cleaning dont clean a panel unless you have been on my course and are a subby for me or you will die !!!!!! Load of rubbish but you do need to take precautions I feel any safety issues and how to avoid them should be freely given to all , but some don’t subscribe to that Ime afrade
Title: Re: Hypo , where to buy
Post by: duncan h on November 25, 2017, 08:36:15 pm
A bit of info
The mixture of sodium peroxide (Na2O2) and hydrochloric acid, which react to produce sodium hypochlorite is also termed as oxone.[3]
Title: Re: Hypo , where to buy
Post by: tom20001 on November 25, 2017, 10:24:16 pm
Just noticed you said about algo clear after treatment we would charge extra for that probebly £40-50  again usually we have stuff left over from a previous job so it’s already paid for to spray the gable end won’t take more than 10 muinets
I certainly don’t class myself as an expert with soft washing we do do quite a bit of it but Ime still learning all the time a lot of people are very unhelpful and say it’s dangerous and you shouldn’t do this or that and won’t offer any help they just criticise I feel it’s good to share good and bad things as we will all learn and benefit from each other’s experience some treat softwashing like a black art just like ss did with solar panel cleaning dont clean a panel unless you have been on my course and are a subby for me or you will die !!!!!! Load of rubbish but you do need to take precautions I feel any safety issues and how to avoid them should be freely given to all , but some don’t subscribe to that Ime afrade

Thanks Reflections great advice there. Before i would have judged job based on whether to use blackwash or biocidal wash. One or the other and only on a roof would i use both.
 I like your way and Im think im going to do it that way now too. At least that way its an instant clean and I dont have to check it out 2 weeks later in the case of bio wash and I can sell the bio at customers discretion now as a preventative measure. Il try share photos and experience on here as i do more softwashing but i do have a few great before and afters if any1 wants them 👍

Thanks for help reflections il get myself some hypo and start experimenting with it instead of blackwash
Title: Re: Hypo , where to buy
Post by: Plankton on November 26, 2017, 09:38:10 pm
That Algo frog is a different kettle of fish as well! I was going to buy some stuff off him until I mentioned hypo and he lost his dummy!
Title: Re: Hypo , where to buy
Post by: Plankton on November 28, 2017, 07:25:58 pm
Ordered this http://www.bonnymans.co.uk/products/product.php?categoryID=1929&productID=8881 and they delivered 10 x 14/15% no invoice but I was £215 for 10 x 15% for the last order. If I've been charged for what I ordered then I've won a watch!
Title: Re: Hypo , where to buy
Post by: Splash & dash on November 28, 2017, 10:50:46 pm
Ordered this http://www.bonnymans.co.uk/products/product.php?categoryID=1929&productID=8881 and they delivered 10 x 14/15% no invoice but I was £215 for 10 x 15% for the last order. If I've been charged for what I ordered then I've won a watch!

It says on the web site 10% might pay to cheak what strength it is still a good price though : price is £115
Title: Re: Hypo , where to buy
Post by: tom20001 on November 30, 2017, 06:30:23 pm
Thanks for all the help lads

Have my hypo for €28 for 25litres from a farm co-op 👍