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Title: Fsc how?
Post by: tom20001 on November 23, 2017, 02:48:11 pm
Those who offer fascia/soffit/gutter cleans what way do you carry it out

Just pure water with wfp?

Pressure washer?

Spray with chem nd then rinse?

Thanks lads
Title: Re: Fsc how?
Post by: Soupy on November 23, 2017, 03:09:47 pm
Pure water.
Title: Re: Fsc how?
Post by: jo5hm4n on November 23, 2017, 03:11:05 pm
Those who offer fascia/soffit/gutter cleans what way do you carry it out

Just pure water with wfp?

Pressure washer?

Spray with chem nd then rinse?

Thanks lads

80% of the time i connect wfp to customers mains tap for maximum pressure and unlimited water supply.  That is usually enough to get rid of all dirt.  If they are really bad, apply chems first either using backpack if its a really big job, or just chemical solution in a bucket and dip your brush head in and apply to fascias, agitate wait a few minutes then rinse off.

Title: Re: Fsc how?
Post by: Plankton on November 23, 2017, 04:02:00 pm
I tried out degreaser from Screwfix on three dormers yesterday, at around 50-1 using warm water the first one needed a good scrub so I left it for 20mins on the third dormer and it came up alright and at the back of the house I added something else to speed up the job.  (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1511452157_Dormer clean.jpg)(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1511452164_Dormer clean1.jpg)
Title: Re: Fsc how?
Post by: Tony dunmall on November 23, 2017, 04:49:47 pm
Pure water

If I use anything I use a little bio liquid  via back pack leave and wash as normal
Title: Re: Fsc how?
Post by: Splash & dash on November 23, 2017, 05:28:01 pm
Spray with virosol mix 10-1 scrub with hot  wfp rinse job done
Title: Re: Fsc how?
Post by: tom20001 on November 23, 2017, 05:40:39 pm
Since i changed over to pure water wfp i just wash them with wfp and pure water . Ive tried black wash a good few times to try make life easier (left blackwash on for 45/60 mins) and rinsed with wfp and  thought it was useless. No easier .

So today i done the same and rinsed with pressure washer this time and stuff just fell off with a bare rinse. I only sampled it on lean to fascia and gutters so may give it a proper run out next week.

But washing fascias and gutters with pure water alone is defo heavy work for me but lucrative so wouldnt mind finding an easier way

Cheers for input lads
Title: Re: Fsc how?
Post by: lal on November 23, 2017, 05:53:00 pm
Virosol and water mixed, sprayed on fascia with backpack, left to dwell for 10 minutes or so,
then scrubbed & rinsed with WFP, normally comes up very well.
Title: Re: Fsc how?
Post by: tom20001 on November 23, 2017, 05:55:12 pm
I tried out degreaser from Screwfix on three dormers yesterday, at around 50-1 using warm water the first one needed a good scrub so I left it for 20mins on the third dormer and it came up alright and at the back of the house I added something else to speed up the job.  (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1511452157_Dormer clean.jpg)(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1511452164_Dormer clean1.jpg)

Great before and after Alan
Title: Re: Fsc how?
Post by: nathankaye on November 23, 2017, 08:46:40 pm
I use hot pure, which shifts most things.

Ive used chems in the past but find it adds alot of time to the final rinse to get rid of all the soap residue etc.
Where Hot pure water, i simply wash n rinse as i work
Title: Re: Fsc how?
Post by: Cookie on November 23, 2017, 09:29:00 pm
I use customers tap at high pressure. I usually apply dliuted virosol beforehand via a spray bottle and leave for a few minutes before scrubbing.

I'm surprised to hear so many use pure water for this sort of job.
Title: Re: Fsc how?
Post by: dazmond on November 23, 2017, 09:40:48 pm
I used to connect up to customers outside taps years ago but it's easier, quicker  and less faff to use my pure as the windows always get done at the same time.

If it's a really dirty job I'll spray virosol and use cif to whiten the frames.really hot water helps too if u have the means
Title: Re: Fsc how?
Post by: JandS on November 23, 2017, 11:31:16 pm
TFR through brush on spare pole...two or three Windows at a time....rinse off if possible with hose reel on customers tap...back to beginning with pure if doing Windows and frames as well.
Title: Re: Fsc how?
Post by: dazmond on November 24, 2017, 07:36:28 am
TFR through brush on spare pole...two or three Windows at a time....rinse off if possible with hose reel on customers tap...back to beginning with pure if doing Windows and frames as well.

it takes longer doing it your way mate.if its a  standard 3 bed semi for a regular customer ill charge £50-£60 for a fascia/soffit/outside gutter clean plus say £10 for windows and be done and dusted in an hour so £60-£70 an hour.not bad money for time taken.
Title: Re: Fsc how?
Post by: Dry Clean on November 24, 2017, 09:07:45 am
Have tried a number of different chemicals and to be honest none made much of a difference if any, same with hot, using the
pressure from the customers tap helped as did using an extreme stiff brush.
Title: Re: Fsc how?
Post by: SB Cleaning on November 25, 2017, 12:43:20 pm
I use a Gardiners backpack and customers tap water mixed with screwfix degreaser.
Title: Re: Fsc how?
Post by: davids3511 on November 25, 2017, 12:46:52 pm
Since i changed over to pure water wfp i just wash them with wfp and pure water . Ive tried black wash a good few times to try make life easier (left blackwash on for 45/60 mins) and rinsed with wfp and  thought it was useless. No easier .

So today i done the same and rinsed with pressure washer this time and stuff just fell off with a bare rinse. I only sampled it on lean to fascia and gutters so may give it a proper run out next week.

But washing fascias and gutters with pure water alone is defo heavy work for me but lucrative so wouldnt mind finding an easier way

Cheers for input lads
Be really careful using bleach on upvc. I've seen it turn white frames pink. It happened in seconds too.
Title: Re: Fsc how?
Post by: dazmond on November 25, 2017, 12:57:43 pm
i wouldnt use bleach on UPVC.your running the risk of damaging it(as well as killing customers plants/grass if the mix is too strong and it drips down).

very hot water,virosol,CIF will remove most stubborn dirt and leave a great job (and a happy customer)
Title: Re: Fsc how?
Post by: tom20001 on November 25, 2017, 01:06:17 pm
Fair enough lads but Benz are promoting blackwash as an ideal cleaner for pvc 🙈🙈🤔🤔😂

Title: Re: Fsc how?
Post by: Splash & dash on November 25, 2017, 05:16:45 pm
Since i changed over to pure water wfp i just wash them with wfp and pure water . Ive tried black wash a good few times to try make life easier (left blackwash on for 45/60 mins) and rinsed with wfp and  thought it was useless. No easier .

So today i done the same and rinsed with pressure washer this time and stuff just fell off with a bare rinse. I only sampled it on lean to fascia and gutters so may give it a proper run out next week.

But washing fascias and gutters with pure water alone is defo heavy work for me but lucrative so wouldnt mind finding an easier way

Cheers for input lads
Be really careful using bleach on upvc. I've seen it turn white frames pink. It happened in seconds too.
Hypo is fine on UPVC providing you use a weak mix , yes it can turn cheap plastic products yellow/brown but usually it will revert back to white in about 30 muinets we use it all the time on badly stained plastics 1 part hypo 10% to 5 parts water never had a problem with that if you use 1 part hypo 10% to 3 parts water sometimes it will turn yellow but in my experience it has always reverted back to white again . Where hypo comes into its own on plastic cleans is where you have cut joints usually on down pipes I’ve tried virosol , sif, tfr nothing will remove the green staining but hypo will usually get rid of it
Title: Re: Fsc how?
Post by: windowswashed on November 25, 2017, 06:56:11 pm
Don't do  FSG anymore but when I did I use to pressure wash the lot, so much quicker and easier. Just use a petrol power washer so no need for customer to be in  to use electrics. Tfr was all I used.
Title: Re: Fsc how?
Post by: paul alan on November 25, 2017, 07:12:37 pm
I usually stand around scrubbing for ages with just pure cold water, wishing I would of stuck to the promise I made to myself last time I did one that I would never do it again.

Shoulders on fire, water running down the pole them my arms. Neck destroyed!

Thinking if this takes any longer I'll be on a £10 an hour for this job.

I did one last week and decided that I don't care if its not perfect, sod it I'm just gonna give it a good wash down without spending ages on it.

When I was done the customer said how impressed he was with the job "look new again" he said.

Lesson learned.
Title: Re: Fsc how?
Post by: Splash & dash on November 25, 2017, 07:27:46 pm
TFR through brush on spare pole...two or three Windows at a time....rinse off if possible with hose reel on customers tap...back to beginning with pure if doing Windows and frames as well.

it takes longer doing it your way mate.if its a  standard 3 bed semi for a regular customer ill charge £50-£60 for a fascia/soffit/outside gutter clean plus say £10 for windows and be done and dusted in an hour so £60-£70 an hour.not bad money for time taken.


Exactly we are the same good little earners , can easily do 6 in a day and still be home before 4.30 and over £400 , probebly struggle to get enough all the time but nice one day a week or so
Title: Re: Fsc how?
Post by: Plankton on November 25, 2017, 10:37:55 pm
Six in a day? feck that ones enough (depending on size). I'll do a few gutters in a day but not fsg's
Title: Re: Fsc how?
Post by: simon w on November 26, 2017, 11:40:54 am
Two hose reels connected to customers outside tap, two cleaners with water fed poles one at front and one at back working towards each other cleaning with tap water only highish flow. This removes the first and worst layer of dirt. We then plug into a 25 litre backpack x2 filled with degreaser and water with a lowish flow working into UPVC to achieve a deep clean then back around for the final time rinsing with tap water. Usually we'll deep clean the windows also same method and just wash the glass frames and sills with pure at the end.

We can usually fly around an average detached house pretty quickly. I have pretty high standards when doing these and quite often all plastics come up looking like brand new. These are always charged as a premium service and we often get asked to re clean again a year or two later.
Title: Re: Fsc how?
Post by: David Beecroft on November 26, 2017, 09:44:11 pm
I’ve had really good results using biological washing powder, dissolved in a bucket of hot water. Just brush on all upvc surfaces then start again at the beginning using the customers tap through my reel and scrub up. Getting really good feedback from my customers.
Title: Re: Fsc how?
Post by: Brian Nunn on November 27, 2017, 03:17:42 pm
I use customers tap at high pressure. I usually apply dliuted virosol beforehand via a spray bottle and leave for a few minutes before scrubbing.

I'm surprised to hear so many use pure water for this sort of job.

How is the water hardness in your area?
Mine is about 340 PPM. I washed my brown FSG with tap water and they came up OK but because it was a bungalow when they dried you could see a small amount of spotting. All the windows needing doing too from the drips.
Title: Re: Fsc how?
Post by: dazmond on November 27, 2017, 05:18:27 pm
I usually stand around scrubbing for ages with just pure cold water, wishing I would of stuck to the promise I made to myself last time I did one that I would never do it again.

Shoulders on fire, water running down the pole them my arms. Neck destroyed!

Thinking if this takes any longer I'll be on a £10 an hour for this job.

I did one last week and decided that I don't care if its not perfect, sod it I'm just gonna give it a good wash down without spending ages on it.

When I was done the customer said how impressed he was with the job "look new again" he said.

Lesson learned.

really?i can clean a full f/s/g on  a semi in an hour(including windows too)without hardly breaking a sweat(and im 46)£60-£70 an hour.
Title: Re: Fsc how?
Post by: Stoots on November 27, 2017, 06:40:00 pm
Squirt of bleach, squirt of fairy, squirt of flash.. in a spray bottle, top up with water and away you go.
Title: Re: Fsc how?
Post by: JandS on November 27, 2017, 06:59:57 pm
Dazmond...your talking about just fsg......every fsg job I have done as also been all windows and frames as well.
Title: Re: Fsc how?
Post by: tom20001 on November 27, 2017, 07:39:07 pm
To be fair its is impossible to clean fsg without destroying windows in drops and dirt
Title: Re: Fsc how?
Post by: Flash.. on November 27, 2017, 07:47:23 pm
I tried out degreaser from Screwfix on three dormers yesterday, at around 50-1 using warm water the first one needed a good scrub so I left it for 20mins on the third dormer and it came up alright and at the back of the house I added something else to speed up the job.  (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1511452157_Dormer clean.jpg)[img]http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1511452164_Dormer clean1.jpg[/img

Good Job Tom, can I use your photo?
Title: Re: Fsc how?
Post by: tom20001 on November 27, 2017, 07:48:36 pm
Its alans photo flash......to be fair great before and after
Title: Re: Fsc how?
Post by: Flash.. on November 27, 2017, 08:27:21 pm
I tried out degreaser from Screwfix on three dormers yesterday, at around 50-1 using warm water the first one needed a good scrub so I left it for 20mins on the third dormer and it came up alright and at the back of the house I added something else to speed up the job.  (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1511452157_Dormer clean.jpg)(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1511452164_Dormer clean1.jpg)

Great photo Alan any chance I can use it?
Title: Re: Fsc how?
Post by: dazmond on November 27, 2017, 10:22:36 pm
Dazmond...your talking about just fsg......every fsg job I have done as also been all windows and frames as well.

no im not,i always clean the windows too at the same time so i find its easier/faster to use my pure than faffing about connecting to customers outside taps for the f/s/g.s
Title: Re: Fsc how?
Post by: tom20001 on November 30, 2017, 06:36:22 pm
Sorry for replying to old post im sure many are sick of looking at! 🙈 but im finding spraying benz blackwash on gutters (which will be cheaper still now ive sourced my own hypo)  an absolute revelation. No more back breaking scrubbing and trying to get dirt and grime off. Im not telling anyone how to do their job but to anyone who uses just pure water(which was me for last 5 years) try it on a bit of guttering some day, i doubt you will look back