Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Slacky on November 09, 2017, 07:44:53 pm
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Hot water could be water thats been heated by any one of the methods listed below.
- hot tap water
- gas boiler
- diesel heater
- fish tank heater
- immersion heater
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Hot via a Webasto diesel heater. Costs about £4/5 a day and worth every penny. I don't agree with what Daz says, hot is faster and the hoses are easier to work with (although I notice he is flip flopping on the issue). I'm much more comfortable with a diesel heater, never liked carrying a bottle of gas about.
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Forgot I had a fish tank heater!
Must dig it out😀
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Hot tap water as I'm di only.
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Really? Can you do that by using hot tap to run through your di?
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Never used hot, would like to try it but I think would go the immersion route. I can see how it could help on certain houses with insect droppings etc but wouldn't want to spend 5k or gas myself to death to find out.
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Really? Can you do that by using hot tap to run through your di?
Cheapest way of using hot water unless you use a calorifier tank connected up to van radiator and cycle the hot water through the tank if you clock up the miles and use a very efficient calorifier ideally with a 2kw immersion heater built in. Did it before with a previous van use a marine quality calorifier tank and plumbed it all in myself ;) :)
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Tried it for a while made no difference, that said I don't get that much bird muck, snail trails, eggs, cement, tree sap and moss on the windows so what I should be saying is it made no difference to my work.
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Yes I just fill my tank up the night before with hot to about 3/4 full this also acts like a large hot water bottle and keeps things frost free then top up in morning if needed.
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3kw immersion. However, this is not installed to use "hot" water but rather keep the van and entire system frost free and workable regardless of temperature. Heat the tank and the tank heats the van and system in return- Two birds, One stone an' all that.💪👍💪
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Have used the 5 kw thermopure and gas .
The gas produced hotter water as it was 16 kw .
I loved the hot water it is definitely quicker keeps your hands warm and the Windows dry faster.
On most maintenance cleans you could use one pass of the brush.
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Use hot for a couple of months during winter. Mainly to keep everything supple including me ;D ;D. Preheat it to 45 degrees with an L5 gas heater into 25ltr barrels. My heater is set up in an open cabin in the garden.
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Hot tap water as I'm di only.
So am I, I run the hot through the Di, no effect.
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Whats with everyones comments on hot water that they heat it up to only 45 degrees or so just for the hose pipe to be soft.
If you've gone to the trouble of getting equipment for hot water and gone to the trouble to warm your water WHY stop there??!! Heat it more and then be proud that you have hot water to actually clean and then trully see the difference
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Whats with everyones comments on hot water that they heat it up to only 45 degrees or so just for the hose pipe to be soft.
If you've gone to the trouble of getting equipment for hot water and gone to the trouble to warm your water WHY stop there??!! Heat it more and then be proud that you have hot water to actually clean and then trully see the difference
More babble, the only reason your getting it higher is because your not using it, people who empty their tanks wont be starting
at 40degrees. (roll eyes )
Not everybody can clean 30 to 35 properties a day on 200ltrs of water.
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Whats with everyones comments on hot water that they heat it up to only 45 degrees or so just for the hose pipe to be soft.
If you've gone to the trouble of getting equipment for hot water and gone to the trouble to warm your water WHY stop there??!! Heat it more and then be proud that you have hot water to actually clean and then trully see the difference
Been there, done it. For me 99% of the time hot has no more cleaning power over cold or warm. So, the extra heating isn't worth the 1% difference. You would need a proper hot (gas or diesel) heater to get it hot enough at the brush- consistantly enough to make any "real" or "justifiable" difference. For me it's all about comfort and keeping the van and system workable regardless of outside temps.
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Whats with everyones comments on hot water that they heat it up to only 45 degrees or so just for the hose pipe to be soft.
If you've gone to the trouble of getting equipment for hot water and gone to the trouble to warm your water WHY stop there??!! Heat it more and then be proud that you have hot water to actually clean and then trully see the difference
More babble, the only reason your getting it higher is because your not using it, people who empty their tanks wont be starting
at 40degrees. (roll eyes )
Not everybody can clean 30 to 35 properties a day on 200ltrs of water.
Im sure if i had a 3kw element i would get my water from 16-20 upto 60 odd degrees.
Besides when i do a full tank from scratch i can still hit the higher temps.
But im glad your prowling these threads still to tell people what they can n cant do.
Keep up the good work
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Whats with everyones comments on hot water that they heat it up to only 45 degrees or so just for the hose pipe to be soft.
If you've gone to the trouble of getting equipment for hot water and gone to the trouble to warm your water WHY stop there??!! Heat it more and then be proud that you have hot water to actually clean and then trully see the difference
More babble, the only reason your getting it higher is because your not using it, people who empty their tanks wont be starting
at 40degrees. (roll eyes )
Not everybody can clean 30 to 35 properties a day on 200ltrs of water.
Im sure if i had a 3kw element i would get my water from 16-20 upto 60 odd degrees.
Besides when i do a full tank from scratch i can still hit the higher temps.
But im glad your prowling these threads still to tell people what they can n cant do.
Keep up the good work
KS has a 3kw and so has Peavey, they cant, but thats not the point, if your going to harp on and lecture about any topic
at least be doing the same yourself in other words practice what you preach.
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I, like many, have put the hot water debate to bed many years ago then its all opened up by a yesterday newby thinking they have just discovered something new. For the new arrivals try reading back in history on this forum and don`t try reinventing the wheel. Just go out there and be special. If hot water is great then all the customers will soon move their business needs towards your business. Don`t try to teach us how to suck eggs.
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Practice what i preach.......thats exactly what im doing.
I might be wrong but reading between the lines it would appear that people dont want to or cant justify the expense of using hot water not luke warm.
For instance I have changed my electric plan to suit using alot of electricity to use my heater most nights for working the next day. I will run it for however long I need to to get the desired temperature.
I also say how much i charge now and so therefore I dont mind this expense as part of my work costs.
Yet alot on here who claim to be earning big bucks scoff at running costs and therefore run their heaters for the bare minimum. Or keep doing u turns on the matter.....hot is good cold is good but now im considering hot again......etc etc.
Im consistent in what I say and what I do.
You dont believe a person can clean more tban 30 houses in a day so dont belief it thats fine. Just dont keep harping on or accusing someone of spinning a tail just because you dont belief it. Its getting quite boring now. Then there are days when i do far less and guess what, I earn as much from that as I do cleaning upto 30 or more houses. It all depends on the part of the round im on. But im also enjoying these couple of days off, tinkering with the van and new solar panels to get better results which you think im not getting now.
For the old timers it might be sucking eggs but sometimes the newbies can teach you to suck them eggs better 😂😂😂😂😂
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Hot tap water as I'm di only.
So am I, I run the hot through the Di, no effect.
do you fill the tank with hot through the the di . Or do you have the di after the tank .
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Fill the tank with hot from the tap di after the tank.
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Practice what i preach.......thats exactly what im doing.
I might be wrong but reading between the lines it would appear that people dont want to or cant justify the expense of using hot water not luke warm.
For instance I have changed my electric plan to suit using alot of electricity to use my heater most nights for working the next day. I will run it for however long I need to to get the desired temperature.
I also say how much i charge now and so therefore I dont mind this expense as part of my work costs.
Yet alot on here who claim to be earning big bucks scoff at running costs and therefore run their heaters for the bare minimum. Or keep doing u turns on the matter.....hot is good cold is good but now im considering hot again......etc etc.
Im consistent in what I say and what I do.
You dont believe a person can clean more tban 30 houses in a day so dont belief it thats fine. Just dont keep harping on or accusing someone of spinning a tail just because you dont belief it. Its getting quite boring now. Then there are days when i do far less and guess what, I earn as much from that as I do cleaning upto 30 or more houses. It all depends on the part of the round im on. But im also enjoying these couple of days off, tinkering with the van and new solar panels to get better results which you think im not getting now.
For the old timers it might be sucking eggs but sometimes the newbies can teach you to suck them eggs better 😂😂😂😂😂
Your totally right Nathan you should never judge what somebody has to say just because of their age as there are plenty of
bright young sparks out there who can teach and improve, but unfortunately your not one of them.
Your the type of guy who if told to look right and left while crossing the road wouldn't do it because you got away with it the last time.
Example, your now lecturing about hot removing concrete because you removed a splatter of concrete from a pane of glass which may or not have been scratched depending on which of your posts we read, a sensible person would have to gather a lot more evidence than that before coming to your conclusion.
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If you take away your judgemental aproach before you read peoples posts then you might, just might, read them properly. For instance, find me the post where I specifically say the pane of glass im being accused of scratching had concrete on that I removed with hot water.
Then you can tell me im spinning the tales.
Also find the post where the chap is accusing me of scratching due to concrete.
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If you take away your judgemental aproach before you read peoples posts then you might, just might, read them properly. For instance, find me the post where I specifically say the pane of glass im being accused of scratching had concrete on that I removed with hot water.
Then you can tell me im spinning the tales.
Also find the post where the chap is accusing me of scratching due to concrete.
You said it, I linked it to Cleans reply on your glass scratching post, I didn't say the chap accused of you scratching it because of concrete infect you actually said you didn't let on about the concrete on the scratched glass as not to give him any further reason to complain, the clues there, concrete on the scratched glass.
I do laugh though that your still saying removed concrete with hot water, yep all those concrete removing chemicals and thread's on here about which is best at removing concrete from glass, all they needed to do was boil a kettle. lol.
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On those same threads or its on the other forums, im not the only one who has said to use hot water on removing concrete splatter :P
All the chems etc are also on the basis that the user is using cold water.
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Nath you work out of a cheap,old style van and have a cheap immersion method of heating the water. Be careful what you say as you run the risk of looking a fool!
I can run my heater for longer and have the water hotter but I choose not to as it's pointless for my needs. Can I afford to run it longer? Of course but like I say- for me this doesn't achieve anything over and above what really warm water does.👍
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Used hot for 10 years with a webasto 9plus something kw set up for single user
had very good heat for work used summer and winter, I felt when I had real bad issue with shoulders and neck it eliminated most scrubbing,it was very hard on the brushes and equipment though especially the lighter brushes
Been useing cold now with an additive for slugs and snail trials two years and more than happy we don’t have such harsh weather in winter in south if it’s too cold I don’t bother working down to about -3 to -5 is okay with cold
It’s an expense over the year and I just felt it didn’t warrant the return when I can cope with cold water looked into useing immersion but not able to in a grippa tank if I lived wheeew was colder for longer periods I would use hot
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funnily enough ive just put a new gas bottle in the van this week after tuesdays cold snap, i tend to take it out in summer as the waters not as cold as winter straight out the tap but i should carry on really as for me personally from my years of using both hot and cold i find it definately gives a better clean, its quicker with less scrubbing on stains bird poo etc and it does seem to leave less water on the windows for some reason when rinsing not sure why though.
i always say wash your hands with fairy liquid and cold water then feel the difference with hot, everything softens up easier just because of a temperature difference.
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Nath you work out of a cheap,old style van and have a cheap immersion method of heating the water. Be careful what you say as you run the risk of looking a fool!
I can run my heater for longer and have the water hotter but I choose not to as it's pointless for my needs. Can I afford to run it longer? Of course but like I say- for me this doesn't achieve anything over and above what really warm water does.👍
I have a little backward thinking on driving brand new vans and all sign written up. One it doesnt mean that the person driving such a van is a better cleaner/worker than the next person. Second I feel it can put people off employing you as they think your earning enough etc.. yep thats why I said its a little backwards as the counter point is, that sometimes it gets you the bigger jobs.
However I have also said on other threads that im not one for being all flash with the cash and buying a new van etc.
But I appreciate what your saying
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Whats with everyones comments on hot water that they heat it up to only 45 degrees or so just for the hose pipe to be soft.
If you've gone to the trouble of getting equipment for hot water and gone to the trouble to warm your water WHY stop there??!! Heat it more and then be proud that you have hot water to actually clean and then trully see the difference
Been there, done it. For me 99% of the time hot has no more cleaning power over cold or warm. So, the extra heating isn't worth the 1% difference. You would need a proper hot (gas or diesel) heater to get it hot enough at the brush- consistantly enough to make any "real" or "justifiable" difference. For me it's all about comfort and keeping the van and system workable regardless of outside temps.
Complete and utter rubbish it doesn’t clean better complete toilet talk.
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Whats with everyones comments on hot water that they heat it up to only 45 degrees or so just for the hose pipe to be soft.
If you've gone to the trouble of getting equipment for hot water and gone to the trouble to warm your water WHY stop there??!! Heat it more and then be proud that you have hot water to actually clean and then trully see the difference
Been there, done it. For me 99% of the time hot has no more cleaning power over cold or warm. So, the extra heating isn't worth the 1% difference. You would need a proper hot (gas or diesel) heater to get it hot enough at the brush- consistantly enough to make any "real" or "justifiable" difference. For me it's all about comfort and keeping the van and system workable regardless of outside temps.
Complete and utter rubbish it doesn’t clean better complete toilet talk.
Aye aye, here he is.... the 100k kid who's not the 100k kid, who is the 100k kid but isn't the 100k kid but knows how to be the 100k kid but still isn't the 100k kid.
Make up your own mind how credible the Bovine manure is that exits his mouth!👍
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Whats with everyones comments on hot water that they heat it up to only 45 degrees or so just for the hose pipe to be soft.
If you've gone to the trouble of getting equipment for hot water and gone to the trouble to warm your water WHY stop there??!! Heat it more and then be proud that you have hot water to actually clean and then trully see the difference
Been there, done it. For me 99% of the time hot has no more cleaning power over cold or warm. So, the extra heating isn't worth the 1% difference. You would need a proper hot (gas or diesel) heater to get it hot enough at the brush- consistantly enough to make any "real" or "justifiable" difference. For me it's all about comfort and keeping the van and system workable regardless of outside temps.
Complete and utter rubbish it doesn’t clean better complete toilet talk.
Aye aye, here he is.... the 100k kid who's not the 100k kid, who is the 100k kid but isn't the 100k kid but knows how to be the 100k kid but still isn't the 100k kid.
Make up your own mind how credible the Bovine manure is that exits his mouth!👍
He's also a PPB user, no need to say more. lol.
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Whats with everyones comments on hot water that they heat it up to only 45 degrees or so just for the hose pipe to be soft.
If you've gone to the trouble of getting equipment for hot water and gone to the trouble to warm your water WHY stop there??!! Heat it more and then be proud that you have hot water to actually clean and then trully see the difference
Been there, done it. For me 99% of the time hot has no more cleaning power over cold or warm. So, the extra heating isn't worth the 1% difference. You would need a proper hot (gas or diesel) heater to get it hot enough at the brush- consistantly enough to make any "real" or "justifiable" difference. For me it's all about comfort and keeping the van and system workable regardless of outside temps.
Complete and utter rubbish it doesn’t clean better complete toilet talk.
Aye aye, here he is.... the 100k kid who's not the 100k kid, who is the 100k kid but isn't the 100k kid but knows how to be the 100k kid but still isn't the 100k kid.
Make up your own mind how credible the Bovine manure is that exits his mouth!👍
He's also a PPB user, no need to say more. lol.
You mean P'BS'? ;D
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Stop knocking me you two I had a record day today 8 hours on the glass around the 150 mark,you know nothing you lot 😂👉🏽🍩💩
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Come on girls , lets put this right ;D
I use one of them cheapy harry L5 deathtraps , as i have for the past 8 years at least , i aint dead yet , and my van aint gone boom as far as i am aware !
It gets the water to a massive 40c on average , it dont clean any better , it dont stop my van freezing overnight , all it does is dissolve poop and snail trails easier , saving me energy not masses of time .
So why do i bother , because it costs me under £2 a day to run and it makes the job in winter more bearable , and you cant beat warm hands and a soft hose cos im a girl thingy ;D ;D ;D
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I use an immersion heater (3kw) - self installed.
Primarily for frost/ice protection, and supple hoses. Usually between 30 and 40 degrees Celsius in the tank.
Haven't bothered this year so far.
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Used hot for 10 years with a webasto 9plus something kw set up for single user
had very good heat for work used summer and winter, I felt when I had real bad issue with shoulders and neck it eliminated most scrubbing,it was very hard on the brushes and equipment though especially the lighter brushes
Been useing cold now with an additive for slugs and snail trials two years and more than happy we don’t have such harsh weather in winter in south if it’s too cold I don’t bother working down to about -3 to -5 is okay with cold
It’s an expense over the year and I just felt it didn’t warrant the return when I can cope with cold water looked into useing immersion but not able to in a grippa tank if I lived wheeew was colder for longer periods I would use hot
additive?
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Shame the puppy is upset. Poor ego had a knock has it. Tell someone who cares.
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We do get very cold days in the south in places some rural spots it gets down to -3 or 4 it’s not uncommon for those temperatures.