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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Lee Pryor on November 07, 2017, 07:07:25 pm
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I cant remember the last time I was this ill! Had to sleep on towels last night as I was soaked in sweat all night. Poor me! haha
Ive had a lot of negative stick for wanting to grow my business ect. My goals are not all about more money, cars, houses, holidays and this week is a perfect example of that. I have been in bed for 3 days and yet, all the work at the office is done and exactly the normal amount of money has been turned over. 10min telephone chat with my office manager today to update me and thats it. I love the fact that I am completely removed from the day to day admin and generating of the money. I can see everything thats going on from home, cleaner planner, the van trackers, the emails ect.
I have said many times that dont think any less of someone for staying a one man band, I was one myself after all. But what would happen if a one man band had a sudden health problem, not just a few days off with a cold or flu. What about a broken arm or leg, back problem, cancer ect.......
What do others have in mind for such times? Does anyone even think about it?
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I think about it all the time, breaking a leg, I might go bankrupt as a result, wife will leave me and I’ll end up as a poor rent boy in Thailand hoping the a 70year old man will buy me out of my ‘special’ relationship with my pimp and have me as his toy boy, chaining me to his bedroom wall, gimp mask in tow...
Then I realise that wishful thinkimg will get me nowhere and I need to work hard to acheive what I want!
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Ive had a lot of negative stick for wanting to grow my business ect.
No you havn't. Lets just recap.... you stuck your neck out with a big gamble your plan would work, infact you asked the question...."am i brave, or mad" or some such. When people said you where mad (at your invitation) then you percieve this as negative stick.
You've got the flu, tough!!! It'll be the same Flu i get, only the towels i have to sleep on might not be as nice as yours !! ;D
Yeah, and my employment will stop ;D I'll be laid in bed exactly the same as you, only i won't be in me mums ;D
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I cant remember the last time I was this ill! Had to sleep on towels last night as I was soaked in sweat all night. Poor me! haha
Ive had a lot of negative stick for wanting to grow my business ect. My goals are not all about more money, cars, houses, holidays and this week is a perfect example of that. I have been in bed for 3 days and yet, all the work at the office is done and exactly the normal amount of money has been turned over. 10min telephone chat with my office manager today to update me and thats it. I love the fact that I am completely removed from the day to day admin and generating of the money. I can see everything thats going on from home, cleaner planner, the van trackers, the emails ect.
I have said many times that dont think any less of someone for staying a one man band, I was one myself after all. But what would happen if a one man band had a sudden health problem, not just a few days off with a cold or flu. What about a broken arm or leg, back problem, cancer ect.......
What do others have in mind for such times? Does anyone even think about it?
ive had flu twice in 4 years.proper flu not man flu!so i know what it feels like!horrible.get well soon mate.
do i even think about it?broken leg,ill etc?sometimes.i torn my ankle ligaments a few years ago playing football.i took a month off.no problem.i could take 6 months off and be ok financially but whether id have a round to come back to who knows?
best not to think about it and just keep squirreling money away here and there is my motto! ;D
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I cant remember the last time I was this ill! Had to sleep on towels last night as I was soaked in sweat all night. Poor me! haha
Ive had a lot of negative stick for wanting to grow my business ect. My goals are not all about more money, cars, houses, holidays and this week is a perfect example of that. I have been in bed for 3 days and yet, all the work at the office is done and exactly the normal amount of money has been turned over. 10min telephone chat with my office manager today to update me and thats it. I love the fact that I am completely removed from the day to day admin and generating of the money. I can see everything thats going on from home, cleaner planner, the van trackers, the emails ect.
I have said many times that dont think any less of someone for staying a one man band, I was one myself after all. But what would happen if a one man band had a sudden health problem, not just a few days off with a cold or flu. What about a broken arm or leg, back problem, cancer ect.......
What do others have in mind for such times? Does anyone even think about it?
Health insurance that will kick in after 3 months of sickness, and 3 months of living costs saved up.
But your dead right, I was swaying to an fro about employing but after a conversation with another local cleaner who has a back problem I'm going to advertise asap.
At least if for no other reason than to keep things going when I'm not.
I have a goal of 10 employees in 5 vans doing 50k per month within the next 5 years putting me in the position to semi retire aged 45, I know people will begrudge me for saying that!
How hard do you think that'll be lee?
I think if you want something enough and your willing to persevere then you absolutely can do it!
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I cant remember the last time I was this ill! Had to sleep on towels last night as I was soaked in sweat all night. Poor me! haha
Ive had a lot of negative stick for wanting to grow my business ect. My goals are not all about more money, cars, houses, holidays and this week is a perfect example of that. I have been in bed for 3 days and yet, all the work at the office is done and exactly the normal amount of money has been turned over. 10min telephone chat with my office manager today to update me and thats it. I love the fact that I am completely removed from the day to day admin and generating of the money. I can see everything thats going on from home, cleaner planner, the van trackers, the emails ect.
I have said many times that dont think any less of someone for staying a one man band, I was one myself after all. But what would happen if a one man band had a sudden health problem, not just a few days off with a cold or flu. What about a broken arm or leg, back problem, cancer ect.......
What do others have in mind for such times? Does anyone even think about it?
Get well soon Lee.
I guess the same applies to anyone employed unless they have a kind hearted boss.
As Dazmond has often said, keep some money in reserve for such an occasion, most things only last a short time and clients are generally happy to wait.
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Ive had a lot of negative stick for wanting to grow my business ect.
No you havn't. Lets just recap.... you stuck your neck out with a big gamble your plan would work, infact you asked the question...."am i brave, or mad" or some such. When people said you where mad (at your invitation) then you percieve this as negative stick.
You've got the flu, tough!!! It'll be the same Flu i get, only the towels i have to sleep on might not be as nice as yours !! ;D
Yeah, and my employment will stop ;D I'll be laid in bed exactly the same as you, only i won't be in me mums ;D
Who pulled your chain?
For the record I only spent a short time at my parents house and have had my own house for some time now. I simply didn't mention it on here. By moving in there I was able to sell my house faster.
Your post is exactly the sort of negative low brow sh t I'm talking about. Doesn't contribute to the topic at all.
Instead of ending your post saying when your laid up you won't be at your mums, you should have said you won't be earning any money and you will be wondering how long it will last. That would be more accurate wouldn't it.
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I cant remember the last time I was this ill! Had to sleep on towels last night as I was soaked in sweat all night. Poor me! haha
Ive had a lot of negative stick for wanting to grow my business ect. My goals are not all about more money, cars, houses, holidays and this week is a perfect example of that. I have been in bed for 3 days and yet, all the work at the office is done and exactly the normal amount of money has been turned over. 10min telephone chat with my office manager today to update me and thats it. I love the fact that I am completely removed from the day to day admin and generating of the money. I can see everything thats going on from home, cleaner planner, the van trackers, the emails ect.
I have said many times that dont think any less of someone for staying a one man band, I was one myself after all. But what would happen if a one man band had a sudden health problem, not just a few days off with a cold or flu. What about a broken arm or leg, back problem, cancer ect.......
What do others have in mind for such times? Does anyone even think about it?
Used to be the General Manager of a Fresh n Frozen Food delivery firm. Couple of office staff, 2 butchers, 2 sales people, 8 van drivers plus freezer and chiller staff. Oh! And not to forget the numpty that owned the place.
After 13 years of continuous stress I resigned, just walked away, tried a few more jobs then found window cleaning - best decision I've made in the the last two decades.
Now I'm 'just' a window cleaner in most peoples eyes.
Lee I hail you for your vision and 'get up n go' and hope you have less staff hassle than I got but my answer to your Q "What about a broken arm or leg, back problem, cancer ect......." My customers will have slightly dirtier windows on my return"
Regards
Glenn
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I didn't think it's worth worrying what if.
I too want to grow a larger business but not because I might get ill.
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I cant remember the last time I was this ill! Had to sleep on towels last night as I was soaked in sweat all night. Poor me! haha
Ive had a lot of negative stick for wanting to grow my business ect. My goals are not all about more money, cars, houses, holidays and this week is a perfect example of that. I have been in bed for 3 days and yet, all the work at the office is done and exactly the normal amount of money has been turned over. 10min telephone chat with my office manager today to update me and thats it. I love the fact that I am completely removed from the day to day admin and generating of the money. I can see everything thats going on from home, cleaner planner, the van trackers, the emails ect.
I have said many times that dont think any less of someone for staying a one man band, I was one myself after all. But what would happen if a one man band had a sudden health problem, not just a few days off with a cold or flu. What about a broken arm or leg, back problem, cancer ect.......
What do others have in mind for such times? Does anyone even think about it?
Health insurance that will kick in after 3 months of sickness, and 3 months of living costs saved up.
But your dead right, I was swaying to an fro about employing but after a conversation with another local cleaner who has a back problem I'm going to advertise asap.
At least if for no other reason than to keep things going when I'm not.
I have a goal of 10 employees in 5 vans doing 50k per month within the next 5 years putting me in the position to semi retire aged 45, I know people will begrudge me for saying that!
How hard do you think that'll be lee?
I think if you want something enough and your willing to persevere then you absolutely can do it!
How hard is very hard. If it were easy everyone would have that. I think it's very doable. Lots of planning, lots of money invested ect. I think you should adjust that goal to 60k per month and have 1 per van in 10 vans. Rather than the 2 per van model. There are lots of reasons that works better and makes more money
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I cant remember the last time I was this ill! Had to sleep on towels last night as I was soaked in sweat all night. Poor me! haha
Ive had a lot of negative stick for wanting to grow my business ect. My goals are not all about more money, cars, houses, holidays and this week is a perfect example of that. I have been in bed for 3 days and yet, all the work at the office is done and exactly the normal amount of money has been turned over. 10min telephone chat with my office manager today to update me and thats it. I love the fact that I am completely removed from the day to day admin and generating of the money. I can see everything thats going on from home, cleaner planner, the van trackers, the emails ect.
I have said many times that dont think any less of someone for staying a one man band, I was one myself after all. But what would happen if a one man band had a sudden health problem, not just a few days off with a cold or flu. What about a broken arm or leg, back problem, cancer ect.......
What do others have in mind for such times? Does anyone even think about it?
Health insurance that will kick in after 3 months of sickness, and 3 months of living costs saved up.
But your dead right, I was swaying to an fro about employing but after a conversation with another local cleaner who has a back problem I'm going to advertise asap.
At least if for no other reason than to keep things going when I'm not.
I have a goal of 10 employees in 5 vans doing 50k per month within the next 5 years putting me in the position to semi retire aged 45, I know people will begrudge me for saying that!
How hard do you think that'll be lee?
I think if you want something enough and your willing to persevere then you absolutely can do it!
How hard is very hard. If it were easy everyone would have that. I think it's very doable. Lots of planning, lots of money invested ect. I think you should adjust that goal to 60k per month and have 1 per van in 10 vans. Rather than the 2 per van model. There are lots of reasons that works better and makes more money
Thanks
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Ive had a lot of negative stick for wanting to grow my business ect.
No you havn't. Lets just recap.... you stuck your neck out with a big gamble your plan would work, infact you asked the question...."am i brave, or mad" or some such. When people said you where mad (at your invitation) then you percieve this as negative stick.
You've got the flu, tough!!! It'll be the same Flu i get, only the towels i have to sleep on might not be as nice as yours !! ;D
Yeah, and my employment will stop ;D I'll be laid in bed exactly the same as you, only i won't be in me mums ;D
Who pulled your chain?
For the record I only spent a short time at my parents house and have had my own house for some time now. I simply didn't mention it on here. By moving in there I was able to sell my house faster.
Your post is exactly the sort of negative low brow sh t I'm talking about. Doesn't contribute to the topic at all.
Instead of ending your post saying when your laid up you won't be at your mums, you should have said you won't be earning any money and you will be wondering how long it will last. That would be more accurate wouldn't it.
Rub you up the wrong way did it ? I've never said anything derogatory to you or about you BTW. You are your own negative low brow poop. Get over your Flu you big woos. I'm just pointing out your factual inaccuracies over who has a pop at you, its in your own head.
And BTW Einstein, just to stay on topic and contribute positivley to the thread..that how it works when you employ people to work for you. You don't have too. Its a revelation to you though eh ? Kind of you to point it out to anyone who might of thought you could drive 10 vans in a day and clean a thousand windows in a day, you've got someone else to do it and they do it when your in bed.... pure genious. You're gonna win an innovation award soon i can tell...........
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Yes I think about it,I have no mortgage as I've paid it off,a good pension pot,money invested,and a years running costs for my house and family in the bank,and no debts
So I'm I a good place,
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Ive had a lot of negative stick for wanting to grow my business ect.
No you havn't. Lets just recap.... you stuck your neck out with a big gamble your plan would work, infact you asked the question...."am i brave, or mad" or some such. When people said you where mad (at your invitation) then you percieve this as negative stick.
You've got the flu, tough!!! It'll be the same Flu i get, only the towels i have to sleep on might not be as nice as yours !! ;D
Yeah, and my employment will stop ;D I'll be laid in bed exactly the same as you, only i won't be in me mums ;D
Who pulled your chain?
You did you twot.
The bit about your Mums was funny. Get her to rub some Vicks in to your chest.
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Doesn't contribute to the topic at all.
What d'you want us to say?
"Ooo, you're clever"?
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Ive had a lot of negative stick for wanting to grow my business ect.
No you havn't. Lets just recap.... you stuck your neck out with a big gamble your plan would work, infact you asked the question...."am i brave, or mad" or some such. When people said you where mad (at your invitation) then you percieve this as negative stick.
You've got the flu, tough!!! It'll be the same Flu i get, only the towels i have to sleep on might not be as nice as yours !! ;D
Yeah, and my employment will stop ;D I'll be laid in bed exactly the same as you, only i won't be in me mums ;D
Who pulled your chain?
You did you twot.
The bit about your Mums was funny. Get her to rub some Vicks in to your chest.
Don't let yourself down Matt. Your posts usually show more intelligents than that
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Doesn't contribute to the topic at all.
What d'you want us to say?
"Ooo, you're clever"?
I dont want you to say anything and it's not about me being clever. The possibility of someone not being able to work through poor health is a very real one. I think it's something people should be concerned about and plan for. Just wondering what plan people have if any but as usual it's like talking to children on here.
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Don't let yourself down Matt. Your posts usually show more intelligence than that
FTFY. How ironic.
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as usual it's like talking to children on here.
You know that but keep coming back. You're like the kiddie who goes fishing but never catches anything; he's still not learnt to go to a different river.
May I refer you to my previous post in this thread?
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Don't let yourself down Matt. Your posts usually show more intelligence than that
FTFY. How ironic.
So my spelling is bad, so are lots of people on here. Grow up ffs
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Don't let yourself down Matt. Your posts usually show more intelligents than that
Don't be silly, Lee.
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Yes I think about it,I have no mortgage as I've paid it off,a good pension pot,money invested,and a years running costs for my house and family in the bank,and no debts
So I'm I a good place,
Wow. That's extremely impressive Colin. I doubt many have achieved that position.
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The possibility of someone not being able to work through poor health is a very real one. I think it's something people should be concerned about and plan for. Just wondering what plan people have if any but as usual it's like talking to children on here.
Do you have a sickness plan in place for your employees that is above the statutory minimum? Or do you advise them to go self employed like you ? What have you done about this concern in practical terms with your own employees ?
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The topic is not about my employees and what they get. It's about the business owner. My plan was always to remove myself from the day to day aspects of the business to concentrate on growth and development only, ultimately to give me more free time to enjoy life. I plan to be semi retired before I'm 40.
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Retire? You'll be able to lie in bed all day.
Oh, you already are.
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The topic is not about my employees and what they get. It's about the business owner. My plan was always to remove myself from the day to day aspects of the business to concentrate on growth and development only, ultimately to give me more free time to enjoy life. I plan to be semi retired before I'm 40.
I have been in bed for 3 days and yet, all the work at the office is done and exactly the normal amount of money has been turned over. 10min telephone chat with my office manager today to update me and thats it. I love the fact that I am completely removed from the day to day admin and generating of the money. I can see everything thats going on from home, cleaner planner, the van trackers, the emails ect.
So everything is going to plan for you. You're not interested in what your employees are gonna do when they are sick, but you want to know what a random bunch of strangers like us are gonna do ?
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Yes I think about it,I have no mortgage as I've paid it off,a good pension pot,money invested,and a years running costs for my house and family in the bank,and no debts
So I'm I a good place,
Wow. That's extremely impressive Colin. I doubt many have achieved that position.
I have similar to Colin, Lee.
Is that "extremely impressive" too? Or did I have a bit of luck to help me along with it?
Get well soon.
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Yes I think about it,I have no mortgage as I've paid it off,a good pension pot,money invested,and a years running costs for my house and family in the bank,and no debts
So I'm I a good place,
Wow. That's extremely impressive Colin. I doubt many have achieved that position.
I have similar to Colin, Lee.
Is that "extremely impressive" too? Or did I have a bit of luck to help me along with it?
Get well soon.
Add me to that ;D
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So ill he decides to start a topic on a window cleaning forum stating how ill he is and respond all night. 😂
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Yes I think about it,I have no mortgage as I've paid it off,a good pension pot,money invested,and a years running costs for my house and family in the bank,and no debts
So I'm I a good place,
Wow. That's extremely impressive Colin. I doubt many have achieved that position.
I have similar to Colin, Lee.
Is that "extremely impressive" too? Or did I have a bit of luck to help me along with it?
Get well soon.
Add me to that ;D
Yeah, and me ;)
Get well soon Lee
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Doesn't contribute to the topic at all.
What d'you want us to say?
"Ooo, you're clever"?
I dont want you to say anything and it's not about me being clever. The possibility of someone not being able to work through poor health is a very real one. I think it's something people should be concerned about and plan for. Just wondering what plan people have if any but as usual it's like talking to children on here.
all that worry could make you ill! ;D
why worry about something that might never happen?if it happens ill deal with it then the best way i can.
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Shame on all off you, picking on a sick homeless guy. lol.
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I cant remember the last time I was this ill! Had to sleep on towels last night as I was soaked in sweat all night. Poor me! haha
Ive had a lot of negative stick for wanting to grow my business ect. My goals are not all about more money, cars, houses, holidays and this week is a perfect example of that. I have been in bed for 3 days and yet, all the work at the office is done and exactly the normal amount of money has been turned over. 10min telephone chat with my office manager today to update me and thats it. I love the fact that I am completely removed from the day to day admin and generating of the money. I can see everything thats going on from home, cleaner planner, the van trackers, the emails ect.
I have said many times that dont think any less of someone for staying a one man band, I was one myself after all. But what would happen if a one man band had a sudden health problem, not just a few days off with a cold or flu. What about a broken arm or leg, back problem, cancer ect.......
What do others have in mind for such times? Does anyone even think about it?
Health insurance that will kick in after 3 months of sickness, and 3 months of living costs saved up.
But your dead right, I was swaying to an fro about employing but after a conversation with another local cleaner who has a back problem I'm going to advertise asap.
At least if for no other reason than to keep things going when I'm not.
I have a goal of 10 employees in 5 vans doing 50k per month within the next 5 years putting me in the position to semi retire aged 45, I know people will begrudge me for saying that!
How hard do you think that'll be lee?
I think if you want something enough and your willing to persevere then you absolutely can do it!
I hope you have looked at all the small print in your health insurance, I have been stung with one of these policies before. They will have you believe you are covered for a payout of X amount of pounds per month, whereas the reality is you will probably get a fraction of what you are expecting due to the fact that most of these companies will only pay out based on 75% of your net profit.
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Quite a number of years ago I needed an operation which required 2 weeks in hospital and 3 months off work.
A number of my friends are shiners and they clubbed together and blitz my round. Took out some money for a pint n meal each at end of day together and gave rest to me n my family. They volunteered to do this.
My bills were covered and my family survived and I had great friends who helped not paid employees.
Moving forward to today if I get too ill to work then its quite simply a day or two off work. If its anything worse than that Im still covered.
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Quite a number of years ago I needed an operation which required 2 weeks in hospital and 3 months off work.
A number of my friends are shiners and they clubbed together and blitz my round. Took out some money for a pint n meal each at end of day together and gave rest to me n my family. They volunteered to do this.
My bills were covered and my family survived and I had great friends who helped not paid employees.
Moving forward to today if I get too ill to work then its quite simply a day or two off work. If its anything worse than that Im still covered.
feckin liberty, taking money for a pint n meal :P
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Quite a number of years ago I needed an operation which required 2 weeks in hospital and 3 months off work.
A number of my friends are shiners and they clubbed together and blitz my round. Took out some money for a pint n meal each at end of day together and gave rest to me n my family. They volunteered to do this.
My bills were covered and my family survived and I had great friends who helped not paid employees.
Moving forward to today if I get too ill to work then its quite simply a day or two off work. If its anything worse than that Im still covered.
Your a JW yeah? That is one of the benefits of having so many JW's who are window cleaners. They all help eachother out when they need it, and they do it often without hesitation.
Shame we can't create a network on this forum like that, where if somebody is unwell and can't do there work and has no backup, people couldn't club together to help out. That would be a way of having like a decent community of window cleaners that actually properly help eachother out when those seriously need help.
Shame it probs wont happen though ??? ???
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I can think of a few who would milk it dry before anyone else was able to get out of bed in the morning. Some still can’t by all accounts :P
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Quite a number of years ago I needed an operation which required 2 weeks in hospital and 3 months off work.
A number of my friends are shiners and they clubbed together and blitz my round. Took out some money for a pint n meal each at end of day together and gave rest to me n my family. They volunteered to do this.
My bills were covered and my family survived and I had great friends who helped not paid employees.
Moving forward to today if I get too ill to work then its quite simply a day or two off work. If its anything worse than that Im still covered.
Your a JW yeah? That is one of the benefits of having so many JW's who are window cleaners. They all help eachother out when they need it, and they do it often without hesitation.
Shame we can't create a network on this forum like that, where if somebody is unwell and can't do there work and has no backup, people couldn't club together to help out. That would be a way of having like a decent community of window cleaners that actually properly help eachother out when those seriously need help.
Shame it probs wont happen though ??? ???
Would you really want a splash n dash merchant like myself let loose on someone else's round? Customers would be out complaining," the regular guy takes over an hour and you've just cleaned the whole house in 6 minutes.....in saying that you've done a better job " ;D
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Having just gone back to work monday after being ill last week lee i can say that right now i am feeling the pressure
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Having just gone back to work monday after being ill last week lee i can say that right now i am feeling the pressure
you create the pressure yourself mate.
STREWTH!you ve only had a week off.put it in perspective.
best wishes marc.
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Quite a number of years ago I needed an operation which required 2 weeks in hospital and 3 months off work.
A number of my friends are shiners and they clubbed together and blitz my round. Took out some money for a pint n meal each at end of day together and gave rest to me n my family. They volunteered to do this.
My bills were covered and my family survived and I had great friends who helped not paid employees.
Moving forward to today if I get too ill to work then its quite simply a day or two off work. If its anything worse than that Im still covered.
Your a JW yeah? That is one of the benefits of having so many JW's who are window cleaners. They all help eachother out when they need it, and they do it often without hesitation.
Shame we can't create a network on this forum like that, where if somebody is unwell and can't do there work and has no backup, people couldn't club together to help out. That would be a way of having like a decent community of window cleaners that actually properly help eachother out when those seriously need help.
Shame it probs wont happen though ??? ???
really?i dont trust anyone when it comes to money or work.
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Having just gone back to work monday after being ill last week lee i can say that right now i am feeling the pressure
you create the pressure yourself mate.
STREWTH!you ve only had a week off.put it in perspective.
best wishes marc.
And he's part-time!! ;D
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Hope you feel better soon man
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Have some funds invested in the stock market and also a flat I rent out. Looking for another property to add value to and rent that out too. that should give a small income if the worst happens. Think what lees doing is a great plan, but you do need the right attitude don't think its for me not really a people person and if you employ obviously you need to be.
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i do like having the odd day off or two ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :o :o :o :o :o