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Title: Resin usage . D I. Only
Post by: Steven Biggs on October 24, 2017, 08:46:58 am
For years I have put my tap water through my double di vessels on a trickle . With the belief that it prolongs the life of the resin . Sometimes over the weekend I can leave it to fill over 48 hours . Now I can fill the tank in half an hour on full blast . So has anyone ever tested the theory that a slow trickle of water does actually prolong the resin . By the way I need pure water in the tank as we fill trollies up straight from the tank . So di after the tank would not work for me . Cheers
Title: Re: Resin usage . D I. Only
Post by: JandS on October 24, 2017, 08:50:30 am
Wouldn't have thought it makes any difference...still filtering same amount of water only slowly.
Title: Re: Resin usage . D I. Only
Post by: Dry Clean on October 24, 2017, 09:17:55 am
Agree with JandS, the only thing I could see that might be a problem is the water going too quickly through the resin for it to
do its job but that shouldn't shorten its lifespan.
Title: Re: Resin usage . D I. Only
Post by: jk999 on October 24, 2017, 12:27:50 pm
What's your tap Tds reading .because in my opinion your trying to save money by not using a lot of resin (not having a go ) why don't you use a 4040 ro a mate of mine has had one for nearly three years and over the last year found it's cheaper for him to change membranes once a year filters twice a year and only go through one bag of resin ,He told me he was using a minimum off six bags off resin a year and at £75 a bag that's £450 a year where as doing it the other way saves him £100 a year minimum
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Post by: ֍Winp®oClean֍ on October 24, 2017, 12:30:53 pm
When the resin is fresh you will be ok but as it begins to deplete your tds will rise faster with a higher flow.
Title: Re: Resin usage . D I. Only
Post by: The Jester of Wibbly on October 24, 2017, 12:48:56 pm
What's your tap Tds reading .because in my opinion your trying to save money by not using a lot of resin (not having a go ) why don't you use a 4040 ro a mate of mine has had one for nearly three years and over the last year found it's cheaper for him to change membranes once a year filters twice a year and only go through one bag of resin ,He told me he was using a minimum off six bags off resin a year and at £75 a bag that's £450 a year where as doing it the other way saves him £100 a year minimum

Plus add the extra water charges for the waste ratio.  Plus the advantage of faster tank filling.
Title: Re: Resin usage . D I. Only
Post by: jk999 on October 24, 2017, 03:34:37 pm
I don't think he's on a water meter
Title: Re: Resin usage . D I. Only
Post by: Steven Biggs on October 24, 2017, 04:30:04 pm
R o . Is not gunna happen .had one a few years back did my head in . 100 ppm . So resin only , I like it simple .just wondered if I was messing about leaving it on trickle . When I can just blast it through on a morning .
Title: Re: Resin usage . D I. Only
Post by: mufcglen on October 24, 2017, 05:14:35 pm
I’m double Di after the tank with a TDS is 75ppm and going through a bag every month or so, I’ve finally given in and building a 4040 ro set up in the van, resin just doesn’t seem to lasting like it used to in my mind :-\
Title: Re: Resin usage . D I. Only
Post by: Cookie on October 24, 2017, 05:16:43 pm
Double DI will save on resin.

Also I remember reading something on here a while back re: the water creating a channel in the resin if you run it through on too  high a flow, causing the ppm to rise more quickly. It usually takes me a couple of hours to fill my 350L tank using double DI - I run the water through fairly slowly. My TDS varies from between 57ppm to 75ppm.
Title: Re: Resin usage . D I. Only
Post by: jk999 on October 24, 2017, 07:26:20 pm
I used to have just over 11ltr di after ro but changed to two seperate smaller one get at least two weeks longer out of resin
Title: Re: Resin usage . D I. Only
Post by: dazmond on October 24, 2017, 07:43:20 pm
For years I have put my tap water through my double di vessels on a trickle . With the belief that it prolongs the life of the resin . Sometimes over the weekend I can leave it to fill over 48 hours . Now I can fill the tank in half an hour on full blast . So has anyone ever tested the theory that a slow trickle of water does actually prolong the resin . By the way I need pure water in the tank as we fill trollies up straight from the tank . So di after the tank would not work for me . Cheers

i fill my 500l tank up in 40 mins using DI only after my days work and my resin lasts 3 or 4 months.my tap tds is 028 though.using around 2000L a week.the water runs pretty fast through my DI.not full blast though.
Title: Re: Resin usage . D I. Only
Post by: dazmond on October 24, 2017, 07:48:17 pm
i only use double DI when my single resin vessel starts to creep up past 005.

Title: Re: Resin usage . D I. Only
Post by: dazmond on October 25, 2017, 07:48:55 pm
For years I have put my tap water through my double di vessels on a trickle . With the belief that it prolongs the life of the resin . Sometimes over the weekend I can leave it to fill over 48 hours . Now I can fill the tank in half an hour on full blast . So has anyone ever tested the theory that a slow trickle of water does actually prolong the resin . By the way I need pure water in the tank as we fill trollies up straight from the tank . So di after the tank would not work for me . Cheers

48 hours to fill your tank DI only?what size is the tank?5000L? ::)roll
Title: Re: Resin usage . D I. Only
Post by: Plankton on October 25, 2017, 09:27:39 pm
Fill the tank fast and then run it through the di. The way my Facelift Comact is set up probably saves resin and saves you money buying additives as you can't add to the tank before di.
Title: Re: Resin usage . D I. Only
Post by: Cookie on October 25, 2017, 11:08:51 pm
Fill the tank fast and then run it through the di. The way my Facelift Comact is set up probably saves resin and saves you money buying additives as you can't add to the tank before di.

So do you fill your van tank with tap water & then just purify it via the DI vessel(s) between the pump & the brush head whilst you're actually cleaning?
Title: Re: Resin usage . D I. Only
Post by: ֍Winp®oClean֍ on October 25, 2017, 11:35:58 pm
Fill the tank fast and then run it through the di. The way my Facelift Comact is set up probably saves resin and saves you money buying additives as you can't add to the tank before di.

So do you fill your van tank with tap water & then just purify it via the DI vessel(s) between the pump & the brush head whilst you're actually cleaning?

I do, It's the most economical way to use DI's.
Title: Re: Resin usage . D I. Only
Post by: Plankton on October 25, 2017, 11:39:04 pm
Fill the tank fast and then run it through the di. The way my Facelift Comact is set up probably saves resin and saves you money buying additives as you can't add to the tank before di.

So do you fill your van tank with tap water & then just purify it via the DI vessel(s) between the pump & the brush head whilst you're actually cleaning?
Yes, I was lead to believe that fast filling the tank through the di was likely to shorten the life of the resin. The slower the water passes through the longer it'll last and it was said on here four years ago so it must be true!
Title: Re: Resin usage . D I. Only
Post by: Cookie on October 25, 2017, 11:44:51 pm
Fill the tank fast and then run it through the di. The way my Facelift Comact is set up probably saves resin and saves you money buying additives as you can't add to the tank before di.

So do you fill your van tank with tap water & then just purify it via the DI vessel(s) between the pump & the brush head whilst you're actually cleaning?
Yes, I was lead to believe that fast filling the tank through the di was likely to shorten the life of the resin. The slower the water passes through the longer it'll last and it was said on here four years ago so it must be true!

Sounds interesting. I think I might try that at some point...
Title: Re: Resin usage . D I. Only
Post by: Cookie on October 25, 2017, 11:50:37 pm
Also it means that that if you run out of water you can refill directly from a customers tap straight into the van tank.

Those annoying customers who always like to tell you where their outside tap is located may turn out to be not so annoying after all  ;D .
Title: Re: Resin usage . D I. Only
Post by: simonr on October 26, 2017, 06:11:24 am
give your vessels a good shake every couple of days that stops channels,  also carry a vessel so you can top up if needed when your out - if your in a low tds area
Title: Re: Resin usage . D I. Only
Post by: Spruce on October 26, 2017, 07:49:15 am
Also it means that that if you run out of water you can refill directly from a customers tap straight into the van tank.

Those annoying customers who always like to tell you where their outside tap is located may turn out to be not so annoying after all  ;D .

Until they turn their outside tap off in winter.  ;D  If they do it from inside then you can't do anything.

If they have offered you the use of their outisde tap, then take a good adjustable spanner with you. Some customers remove the tap's handle. Also, have a couple of tap connectors to hand.

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Title: Re: Resin usage . D I. Only
Post by: dazmond on October 26, 2017, 08:45:40 am
Fill the tank fast and then run it through the di. The way my Facelift Comact is set up probably saves resin and saves you money buying additives as you can't add to the tank before di.

So do you fill your van tank with tap water & then just purify it via the DI vessel(s) between the pump & the brush head whilst you're actually cleaning?
Yes, I was lead to believe that fast filling the tank through the di was likely to shorten the life of the resin. The slower the water passes through the longer it'll last and it was said on here four years ago so it must be true!

its a myth.it doesnt make any difference whether its a slow trickle through the DI or a faster flow IME.
Title: Re: Resin usage . D I. Only
Post by: dazmond on October 26, 2017, 08:48:51 am
Also it means that that if you run out of water you can refill directly from a customers tap straight into the van tank.

Those annoying customers who always like to tell you where their outside tap is located may turn out to be not so annoying after all  ;D .

do you ever do this though?i never run out of water with a 500L tank.i come close sometimes but not quite.
Title: Re: Resin usage . D I. Only
Post by: dazmond on October 26, 2017, 08:51:35 am
give your vessels a good shake every couple of days that stops channels,  also carry a vessel so you can top up if needed when your out - if your in a low tds area

i shake my DI every time i fill up after work.i also dont fill it up right to the top with resin(just to the neck).
Title: Re: Resin usage . D I. Only
Post by: dai on October 30, 2017, 08:29:01 pm
I remember a few years back a guy on here was getting 0ppm using spent resin, he had it in a tank and let the water trickle through slowly. I cant remember now but he could have been using rainwater, and that's the way I would go if I had space.
Rain from the downspout is usual between 007 to 012 ppm, if I had space I would collect every drop.
Title: Re: Resin usage . D I. Only
Post by: P @ F on October 30, 2017, 08:41:44 pm
I remember a few years back a guy on here was getting 0ppm using spent resin, he had it in a tank and let the water trickle through slowly. I cant remember now but he could have been using rainwater, and that's the way I would go if I had space.
Rain from the downspout is usual between 007 to 012 ppm, if I had space I would collect every drop.
Holy poop Dai , I thought you was dead  ;D ;D ;D
Hows it going mate ?
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Post by: P @ F on October 30, 2017, 09:07:47 pm

Its no myth , I am still using spent resin to polish my water after RO down to 000 , the resin i am using is over 2 year old from when i had the T4 , when the Di became exhausted i stuck it in the shed and went to a 10 inch filter housing in the Fiat as a DI , that itself i have changed i think twice in 2 years , not because the TDS crept up but due to the fact it was quicker to renew than to rinse out the gunk , so i have used about 1.5 L of new resin in 2 years !