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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: V_Purcell on October 15, 2017, 07:22:42 pm
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Who has dropped leaflets and got customers from it? I have someone who can do it for me. He does 10,000 per week with his partner. Just wondered what the response would be.
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Who has dropped leaflets and got customers from it? I have someone who can do it for me. He does 10,000 per week with his partner. Just wondered what the response would be.
Patchy. You'll get some, but "not a lot". Canvassing is more productive.
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Leafletted gets less work but generally more reliable
Canvassing gets the work faster but you'll lose half of it over the first couple of cleans.
There is no easy way really.
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My mrs wants me to sell up n move upto scotland and buy the rounds.
Keep telling her theres no way and for many reasons, but even buying an established round doesnt mean you will keep all the work either and depending time frame of amending the prices, you'll probably loose more.
Just hard graft n some good luck to blow your way to get yourself established
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I want to move down south, but that wont happen either, too much family commitments up here.
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Who has dropped leaflets and got customers from it? I have someone who can do it for me. He does 10,000 per week with his partner. Just wondered what the response would be.
0.5% probably.the best thing is to leaflet an area then canvass it a few days later with your leaflet in your hand,sign writing on your vehicle,working saturdays,advertising in local parish magazines etc.website too probably although i have no experience of having a website.
up sell too if you need more work(quote new customers for f/s/g cleans,conny roofs and solar panels if you have poles long enough.)
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10 years ago leaflets worked. But over the last few years it's no good due to the sudden increase in competition and the dot.com sector.
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It seems like Lee Pryors get most of his clients via leaflets
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.5% probably.the best thing is to leaflet an area then canvass it a few days later with your leaflet in your hand,sign writing on your vehicle,working saturdays,advertising in local parish magazines etc.website too probably although i have no experience of having a website.
up sell too if you need more work(quote new customers for f/s/g cleans,conny roofs and solar panels if you have poles long enough.)
Good advice there I found 0.5-1% when I leafeted.
I've had a website for a couple of years now.
Do get quite a few f/s/g and Connie clean enquiries.
Busy enough just with window cleaning.
Good luck
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Leaflets are by and large a waste of time and money for both the householder and the person using them in most cases.
To get any real benefit from leaflet drops is to be persistent and throw a lot of £ at it. Most of which is out of reach for the majority of us. You need a good £20k budget and hit a large area before any serious returns can come back to you.
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Leaflets are by and large a waste of time and money for both the householder and the person using them in most cases.
To get any real benefit from leaflet drops is to be persistent and throw a lot of £ at it. Most of which is out of reach for the majority of us. You need a good £20k budget and hit a large area before any serious returns can come back to you.
20k 🤤🤤🤤
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Leaflets are by and large a waste of time and money for both the householder and the person using them in most cases.
To get any real benefit from leaflet drops is to be persistent and throw a lot of £ at it. Most of which is out of reach for the majority of us. You need a good £20k budget and hit a large area before any serious returns can come back to you.
20k 🤤🤤🤤
I wouldn't be surprised if Lee Pryor spends 20k a time on leaflet drops
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Leaflets are by and large a waste of time and money for both the householder and the person using them in most cases.
To get any real benefit from leaflet drops is to be persistent and throw a lot of £ at it. Most of which is out of reach for the majority of us. You need a good £20k budget and hit a large area before any serious returns can come back to you.
20k 🤤🤤🤤
I wouldn't be surprised if Lee Pryor spends 20k a time on leaflet drops
Is that a question? 😉
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Leaflets are by and large a waste of time and money for both the householder and the person using them in most cases.
To get any real benefit from leaflet drops is to be persistent and throw a lot of £ at it. Most of which is out of reach for the majority of us. You need a good £20k budget and hit a large area before any serious returns can come back to you.
20k 🤤🤤🤤
I wouldn't be surprised if Lee Pryor spends 20k a time on leaflet drops
Is that a question? 😉
No need to ask Lee. I'll check companies house when you file. ;D
Very interested in your progress.
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How much did those big TVs cost then!
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I think a lot of people still look at money the wrong way. It's not something to accumulate and cling onto for dear life. I think that's what differentiates average people from those who are super successfully financially
It's a tool, use it your advantage.
Think about it, if you have 20k sitting in your bank it's doing next to nothing. Interest rates are so low it would take a lifetime to grow it. So you have 20k in the bank so what? What use is it? You aren't going to spend it you are too scared to let it go. All you will do is keep it forever at which point you will either blow it on retirement or pay for your healthcare when you have a stroke.
Invest that 20k and you could double it in a few years.
I spent 6k this year on advertising, I increased by yearly revenue by at least 10k AND I reduced by tax bill hugely. Why give tax to the government, how daft, stck that money back in and back in and back in for a few years then pull the plug and never have to work again.
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I spent 18k on tv this year.
When I do leaflets I buy 300k from the printer at a cost of £6k then we usually deliver 100k at a time, that usually costs £8-£10k depending on where I want them to go.
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I think a lot of people still look at money the wrong way. It's not something to accumulate and cling onto for dear life. I think that's what differentiates average people from those who are super successfully financially
It's a tool, use it your advantage.
Think about it, if you have 20k sitting in your bank it's doing next to nothing. Interest rates are so low it would take a lifetime to grow it. So you have 20k in the bank so what? What use is it? You aren't going to spend it you are too scared to let it go. All you will do is keep it forever at which point you will either blow it on retirement or pay for your healthcare when you have a stroke.
Invest that 20k and you could double it in a few years.
I spent 6k this year on advertising, I increased by yearly revenue by at least 10k AND I reduced by tax bill hugely. Why give tax to the government, how daft, stck that money back in and back in and back in for a few years then pull the plug and never have to work again.
Better still knock on a few doors increase your yearly revenue and still have your 6k, spending a pound just to stop the government from getting 28p of it is like cutting off your nose to spite your face.
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I think door knocking is by far the best method for a one man band. Mark is talking about significant and rapid growth. That can't be achieved with door knocking as there is only so much you can do and the area covered is very small.
In my opinion it requires at least 50 or more new houses a week every week for 6 months of the year to really push forward. We aim for even more than that.
You also have to account for retention and quality which is way lower with knocking. Over the last 12 months we have retained 90% of everything we gained.
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I usually get about 4 custies per 1000 leaflets, but that figure can vary for a whole variety of reasons. You won’t know until you try. I would probably give 5000 a go and see how you get on.
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Some interesting comments.
20k Total advertising budget is about what I thought Lee. And im sure you'd agree compaired to other businesses thats a small budget. And if you had 20k sitting in your business account, it is just that a tool to grow.
Many of us look at Lee and put him in the category of a large growing window cleaning business, in reality even if he was turning over £ 2 million a year he'd be still classified as a small business.
Many of us are what's called Micro-Entities
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I would have thought that many of us are sole traders with a small number filing under a micro entity?
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I would have thought that many of us are sole traders with a small number filing under a micro entity?
Yes that's what I meant.
Sorry watching a-team on 5
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I think a lot of people still look at money the wrong way. It's not something to accumulate and cling onto for dear life. I think that's what differentiates average people from those who are super successfully financially
It's a tool, use it your advantage.
Think about it, if you have 20k sitting in your bank it's doing next to nothing. Interest rates are so low it would take a lifetime to grow it. So you have 20k in the bank so what? What use is it? You aren't going to spend it you are too scared to let it go. All you will do is keep it forever at which point you will either blow it on retirement or pay for your healthcare when you have a stroke.
Invest that 20k and you could double it in a few years.
I spent 6k this year on advertising, I increased by yearly revenue by at least 10k AND I reduced by tax bill hugely. Why give tax to the government, how daft, stck that money back in and back in and back in for a few years then pull the plug and never have to work again.
Better still knock on a few doors increase your yearly revenue and still have your 6k, spending a pound just to stop the government from getting 28p of it is like cutting off your nose to spite your face.
Your missing the point. Spending the money for the sole reason to pay no tax is daft, that's not what I'm saying, it's merely an added bonus of investing.
Let the money do the work, why knock on doors, just make money and pay someone to knock and someone else to clean, rinse and repeat as long as you want.
It's not a mindset for everyone, that's why I said people look at money the wrong way, youve just proved my point by trying to cling onto it and do the work yourself.
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Only advertising I have ever done is signing my van best £450 I have ever spent
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Do a bit of everything.
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I think a lot of people still look at money the wrong way. It's not something to accumulate and cling onto for dear life. I think that's what differentiates average people from those who are super successfully financially
It's a tool, use it your advantage.
Think about it, if you have 20k sitting in your bank it's doing next to nothing. Interest rates are so low it would take a lifetime to grow it. So you have 20k in the bank so what? What use is it? You aren't going to spend it you are too scared to let it go. All you will do is keep it forever at which point you will either blow it on retirement or pay for your healthcare when you have a stroke.
Invest that 20k and you could double it in a few years.
I spent 6k this year on advertising, I increased by yearly revenue by at least 10k AND I reduced by tax bill hugely. Why give tax to the government, how daft, stck that money back in and back in and back in for a few years then pull the plug and never have to work again.
Better still knock on a few doors increase your yearly revenue and still have your 6k, spending a pound just to stop the government from getting 28p of it is like cutting off your nose to spite your face.
Your missing the point. Spending the money for the sole reason to pay no tax is daft, that's not what I'm saying, it's merely an added bonus of investing.
Let the money do the work, why knock on doors, just make money and pay someone to knock and someone else to clean, rinse and repeat as long as you want.
It's not a mindset for everyone, that's why I said people look at money the wrong way, youve just proved my point by trying to cling onto it and do the work yourself.
LOL, not trying to be rude but your business talk makes you sound foolish, there's not a self employed shiner on here who hasn't
spent/invested their money and who isn't constantly spending/investing their money to keep their business going.
For somebody like Lee investing in advertising will be money he needs to spend for a self employed shiner with time on their hands hanging onto the money and doing the footwork could be the better option.
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I think a lot of people still look at money the wrong way. It's not something to accumulate and cling onto for dear life. I think that's what differentiates average people from those who are super successfully financially
It's a tool, use it your advantage.
Think about it, if you have 20k sitting in your bank it's doing next to nothing. Interest rates are so low it would take a lifetime to grow it. So you have 20k in the bank so what? What use is it? You aren't going to spend it you are too scared to let it go. All you will do is keep it forever at which point you will either blow it on retirement or pay for your healthcare when you have a stroke.
Invest that 20k and you could double it in a few years.
I spent 6k this year on advertising, I increased by yearly revenue by at least 10k AND I reduced by tax bill hugely. Why give tax to the government, how daft, stck that money back in and back in and back in for a few years then pull the plug and never have to work again.
Better still knock on a few doors increase your yearly revenue and still have your 6k, spending a pound just to stop the government from getting 28p of it is like cutting off your nose to spite your face.
Your missing the point. Spending the money for the sole reason to pay no tax is daft, that's not what I'm saying, it's merely an added bonus of investing.
Let the money do the work, why knock on doors, just make money and pay someone to knock and someone else to clean, rinse and repeat as long as you want.
It's not a mindset for everyone, that's why I said people look at money the wrong way, youve just proved my point by trying to cling onto it and do the work yourself.
LOL, not trying to be rude but your business talk makes you sound foolish, there's not a self employed shiner on here who hasn't
spent/invested their money and who isn't constantly spending/investing their money to keep their business going.
For somebody like Lee investing in advertising will be money he needs to spend for a self employed shiner with time on their hands hanging onto the money and doing the footwork could be the better option.
Of course if you are a one man band and want to stay a one man band doing it yourself makes more sense, but that's not what I'm talking about, I'm on about investing to grow a business.
No worries, I dont take offence, we are obviously on a different page, you either see it or your don't, everyone can do as they like.
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I spent 18k on tv this year.
When I do leaflets I buy 300k from the printer at a cost of £6k then we usually deliver 100k at a time, that usually costs £8-£10k depending on where I want them to go.
Hi Lee what would you recon the results are from a 1000 leaflets.?
For quantities that you are doing you could try Harliquin printing http://www.harlequinprintgroup.co.uk/products/printing or
www.goleaflets.com I have used Harlequin I found the to be cost effect for orders over 100’000
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I spent 18k on tv this year.
When I do leaflets I buy 300k from the printer at a cost of £6k then we usually deliver 100k at a time, that usually costs £8-£10k depending on where I want them to go.
Hi Lee what would you recon the results are from a 1000 leaflets.?
For quantities that you are doing you could try Harliquin printing http://www.harlequinprintgroup.co.uk/products/printing or
www.goleaflets.com I have used Harlequin I found the to be cost effect for orders over 100’000
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Not many. Between 1 and 5.
Ah thanks. My printer has never been beaten on price. Our leaflet is actually a large A3 brochure which is why they are expensive. I also have a very good business relationship with them.
If you want a result from leaflets have no less than 10k delivered, use a company that gps tracks their delivery staff, only deliver April-Aug. Beyond that you need to look at your design of leaflet and the area they are going to.
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You work for the money, end of. It's not about how much money you make but how much of that money you get to keep. I would estimate that about 1% of members here actually achieve or even follow through with what they publicly spout. ;)
Personally I would never invest 20k into window cleaning of any kind.