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Title: How fast is your website ? check yours.
Post by: Ian101 on September 06, 2017, 04:39:41 pm
Link is to google and its speed test page for websites.

https://developers.google.com/speed/pagespeed/insights/

Video link shows what's possible with an oldish website.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvyobKp2tOE&t=3s


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Post by: Shrek on September 06, 2017, 04:46:59 pm
Well that's a shock! Mine was 12 / 100 for mobile and 16/100 for desktop!!
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Post by: Ian101 on September 06, 2017, 04:59:25 pm
better to know though  ;D

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Post by: Shrek on September 06, 2017, 05:09:43 pm
The question is though.... does it make a difference? See even though iv got a low score , I'm top for my area  ???
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Post by: Ian101 on September 06, 2017, 05:14:43 pm
if it brings the calls in then happy days
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Post by: Shrek on September 06, 2017, 05:16:46 pm
Yeah that's true - how fast is yours?
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Post by: Michael H Jones on September 06, 2017, 05:41:26 pm
You only need to be 1% faster than your rivals  ;D
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Post by: Don Kee on September 06, 2017, 05:46:06 pm
68/100 for mobile
94/100 desktop

No idea what it all means though, should I care..?
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Post by: nathankaye on September 06, 2017, 05:53:11 pm
How reliable is this test. Ive just refreshed it three times and scored higher with every refresh!
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Post by: Slacky on September 06, 2017, 05:54:52 pm
68/100 for mobile
94/100 desktop

No idea what it all means though, should I care..?

To a degree. Website speed is something google factors in to SERPS, so is likely to affect how prominent your website appears in search results.
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Post by: Don Kee on September 06, 2017, 06:03:15 pm
68/100 for mobile
94/100 desktop

No idea what it all means though, should I care..?

To a degree. Website speed is something google factors in to SERPS, so is likely to affect how prominent your website appears in search results.

Fair one, makes sense but to be honest my website was self built in a weekend and not the best

I did it more as a point of reference for customers rather than to bring work in; so not overly fussed about it being high up on rankings (and it isn't!!)
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Post by: robbo333 on September 06, 2017, 06:17:29 pm
Mine came up as 'Poor' and 'Needs Work'
For a minute I thought it was analysing me!  ;D
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Post by: Cookie on September 06, 2017, 07:53:12 pm
How reliable is this test. Ive just refreshed it three times and scored higher with every refresh!

This is probably because the browser is caching the data from your webpage. Try shutting down the browser completely for each refresh.
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Post by: Slacky on September 06, 2017, 08:11:45 pm
No it's not. Your browser cache has nothing to do with the test. The test is done on Googles server not your PC. The reason you get different results is because a website will respond at different speeds for a number of reasons. One of them being the load on the server your site is hosted on. There will be something like another 100 websites hosted on the server where your site resides. If those sites are busy your site is likely to slow down.

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Post by: Cookie on September 06, 2017, 08:24:54 pm
No it's not. Your browser cache has nothing to do with the test. The test is done on Googles server not your PC. The reason you get different results is because a website will respond at different speeds for a number of reasons. One of them being the load on the server your site is hosted on. There will be something like another 100 websites hosted on the server where your site resides. If those sites are busy your site is likely to slow down.

Yes,  now I've looked at it you're right!

Still not sure however why Nathan is scoring differently on each refresh, mine comes up with the same score each time.
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Post by: nathankaye on September 06, 2017, 08:32:50 pm
No it's not. Your browser cache has nothing to do with the test. The test is done on Googles server not your PC. The reason you get different results is because a website will respond at different speeds for a number of reasons. One of them being the load on the server your site is hosted on. There will be something like another 100 websites hosted on the server where your site resides. If those sites are busy your site is likely to slow down.

Yes,  now I've looked at it you're right!

Still not sure however why Nathan is scoring differently on each refresh, mine comes up with the same score each time.

After the third refresh (which showed me the best results) i am no longer getting different results. So im taking these last results to work with and they wasnt that bad to say i use vistaprint for my webpage.
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Post by: Slacky on September 06, 2017, 08:33:24 pm
I wouldnt believe what Nathan says unless he posts a video of it. Otherwise it didn't happen.
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Post by: nathankaye on September 06, 2017, 08:40:29 pm
I wouldnt believe what Nathan says unless he posts a video of it. Otherwise it didn't happen.

 ;D ;D
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Post by: nathankaye on September 06, 2017, 08:45:33 pm
Haha  i do post alot of vids on here.
3 reasons;
1...it proves what im saying.
2....hopefully some may find the odd one     
        beneficial.
3.... it help to get the view counter going   
        which then helps the my channel and     
        obviously helps reason number 2!
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Post by: Slacky on September 06, 2017, 08:50:01 pm
If you want to improve your online presence ditch Vistaprint as your website host for a start.
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Post by: jo5hm4n on September 06, 2017, 09:26:12 pm
Mobile is 66/100 and Desktop is 85/100

I'm happy with that :)
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Post by: cgh window cleaning on September 06, 2017, 09:56:23 pm
Mobile 47
Desktop 49
Poor

I'm not happy with mine ever since  I had it redesigned  and mobile friendly it has dropped down the Google ranking.
I had some Seo work done and asked the designer to look  at it's performance and still it seems to get worse.
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Post by: Shrek on September 06, 2017, 10:02:56 pm
Iv just asked nat to take a look at mine , see if I can get it any faster
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Post by: Slacky on September 06, 2017, 10:03:21 pm

Mobile 47
Desktop 49
Poor

I'm not happy with mine ever since  I had it redesigned  and mobile friendly it has dropped down the Google ranking.
I had some Seo work done and asked the designer to look  at it's performance and still it seems to get worse.



Well, it'll tell you in the google results there what needs to be done to improve it. I expect from those figures your images are far too big as well the usual minifying and CSS requirements.
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Post by: p1w1 on September 06, 2017, 11:11:10 pm
Mobile 99, 1 point better then Google's own website  ;D
Desktop 93
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Post by: cgh window cleaning on September 07, 2017, 07:04:45 am

Mobile 47
Desktop 49
Poor

I'm not happy with mine ever since  I had it redesigned  and mobile friendly it has dropped down the Google ranking.
I had some Seo work done and asked the designer to look  at it's performance and still it seems to get worse.



Well, it'll tell you in the google results there what needs to be done to improve it. I expect from those figures your images are far too big as well the usual minifying and CSS requirements.


yeah it gave me list of problems and minifying css was one as well as
minifying html
optimising images
minifying java script
leverage browser caching
enable compression.
The only thing is most of the above means nothing to me but I'm going to forward it on to the designer.
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Post by: Slacky on September 07, 2017, 07:52:51 am
I don't know what platform your site is built on, but quite often doing everything google suggests causes the site to crash. You usually have to do the minifying etc one step at a time, clear your browser cache, check it on a few browsers possibly, then if all is okay move on to the next suggestion.

Optimising the images is usually the single largest thing you can do from the list which is handy as its easy enough. You need to check also how much each action will be improved by. If its in the kilobytes I usually don't worry. A few kilobytes is nothing, its not worth the time and effort.
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Post by: cgh window cleaning on September 07, 2017, 08:34:32 am
I don't know what platform your site is built on, but quite often doing everything google suggests causes the site to crash. You usually have to do the minifying etc one step at a time, clear your browser cache, check it on a few browsers possibly, then if all is okay move on to the next suggestion.

Optimising the images is usually the single largest thing you can do from the list which is handy as its easy enough. You need to check also how much each action will be improved by. If its in the kilobytes I usually don't worry. A few kilobytes is nothing, its not worth the time and effort.

My site is a Wordpress site that I had designed and then hosted by them and that's about as much as I know.It wasn't an expensive site but I know it can be improved.

Thanks for the pointers and feedback.
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Post by: Nathanael Jones on September 07, 2017, 09:18:12 am
The pagespeed test is synthetic & many items (not all) that reduce your score have zero real-world impact on your site usability or ranking.

For example - you loose points for loading Google fonts direct from Google servers,.. even though this is how they're supposed to be used & is usually much faster than loading them locally. You also loose points for not caching Google analytics code - something that is designed not to be cached anyway!

There are some obvious things like image optimization that you should look at - but the pagespeed scoring system will deduct the same number of points if your could save 2kb or 20mb, so even this metric should be looked at objectively.

CSS, HTML & JS minification is worth doing - but again, some sites don't render properly when minified, so it depends on your specific setup.

I just did a bit of work on Shrek's site - it was originally scoring 23 on mobile and 28 on desktop.... last check gave results of 73 on mobile and 82 on desktop. Very little of what I did had any real world impact though - most of it was just to satisfy the synthetic scoring. I replaced 2 image files and saved 4.3kb (A tiny amount of data) and the score jumped up 10 points,... so the scoring is not accurate at all...
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Post by: Shrek on September 07, 2017, 01:38:51 pm
You the man nat - cheers! 👍