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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Tristan R Clean on July 29, 2017, 01:12:16 pm
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Does anyone do work for Caps ltd?
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yes tried getting in touch and no reply have they gone bust?
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The website is down . No reply when calling.
Something is a bit off here .
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It is the only national company I have done work for.
Good guys, and never mess about with payment.
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Yes they have gone into liquidation. Spoke to another cleaning company down south yesterday and they confirmed it.
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that's a shame they were a good company to work for
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Am i to assume that Tristan is out of pocket here ?
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Is this for real? Really gone bust??
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how much are you owed?it doesnt look good. ::)roll
website defo down.
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£1700 for me
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£1700 for me
You had any contact with them today Jarvy?
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£1700 for me
thats more than my whole outstanding debts.ruddy hell.hope you get your money. >:( :(
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If they've gone bust that won't happen.
The last time a compay went bust on me they owed me £1,000. Once the receivers were called in it took 4 years and I got £1.78. You'll be bottom of the list. The receivers will get paid, they'll get the equivalent of what is owed you for one days work.
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3 months money. May June and now July. No website and nobody answering phones.
Not much anyone can do but suck it up.
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The thing is that nothing has been filed that they have gone bust yet. Not that I have found anyway.
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Same here. :-\
Have phoned Stuart Harris who promises faithfully I will be paid today ::)roll
It's annoying because they always paid around the 5-6 week mark, which is when I started chasing, and then couldn't contact anyone after that.
3 months money. May June and now July. No website and nobody answering phones.
Not much anyone can do but suck it up.
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How did you get on 'the list?' Did you have to sue?
Don't want to chuck good money after bad if I can help it.
If they've gone bust that won't happen.
The last time a compay went bust on me they owed me £1,000. Once the receivers were called in it took 4 years and I got £1.78. You'll be bottom of the list. The receivers will get paid, they'll get the equivalent of what is owed you for one days work.
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Sparklebright can you ring me? Number on website
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You should get a letter from the legals that are dealing with it , it takes time for them to sort it , but providing they have some evidence that you are working for the bust co at the time it will happen , you just better hope that one of your invoices is still hanging about !
It happened to me last year with a large bakery , i got lucky though as they were not into me for anything at the time they filed .
Hope it goes ok for you all , not a nice pill to swallow .
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The thing is that nothing has been filed that they have gone bust yet. Not that I have found anyway.
That might actually be good news. Don't wanna build your hopes up too much, but if they've had a problem and NOT gone into recievership then someone may be working to take it over and keep it going .. lets hope ?
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Where Caps ltd subbing the retail work of a larger cleaning or fm company?
Most of the Nationals are just subbing it then re subbing it out.
I sub a bit of retail work and I have never heard of them.
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They havnt gone into receivership. I'm told that I'll be paid before the end of the week, we shall wait and see.
I'm owed considerably more than the £1700 mentioned. Not ideal but that's the risk I suppose. They've been a great company to sub from for the last 5 or so years.
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Sparklebright can you ring me? Number on website
Only just seen this, yeah will do
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How did you get on 'the list?' Did you have to sue?
Don't want to chuck good money after bad if I can help it.
If they've gone bust that won't happen.
The last time a compay went bust on me they owed me £1,000. Once the receivers were called in it took 4 years and I got £1.78. You'll be bottom of the list. The receivers will get paid, they'll get the equivalent of what is owed you for one days work.
You'll be written to if you're on their books.
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Things are looking up.
Have spoken to them. They have had some disasters recently.
They are going to carry on trading but sort finances etc out.
They have agreed to pay some money on account and in return once I get it I will do some of their work that's due Monday.
Sounds like they are playing it straight to me
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Who have you spoken to? Please post here if and when you get paid. I've been promised payment "this week" but we'll see.
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Thanks to the guys that have rang me today. My debt is chicken feed compared to others. But it was good to speak to other guys from all over that are in the same boat.
This will be sorted out in the end.
There are some good people with good advice on here.
Stay lucky guys!
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Hope you get it sorted guys,
I've been there myself too many times,
I gave up in the end and got a proper job. :-X
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If you were doing regular work and you find they've gone bust then immediately approach the client you were doing the actual work for and offer your services direct.
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whoever said yes thats a shame there were a good company i say you talk a load of crap, they took maybe 8 good jobs off me next ,zarars ,simple b ,quiz , river island,to name but a few kept me on at debs cas the manager demanded it and screwed me over 4 £800 yes ace company love em
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i dont understand why anyone would do sub contract work.loads of horror stories of guys not getting paid for work(in all different trades)over the years.my grandad always said "dont put all your eggs in one basket"so i dont.they are all in hundreds of different baskets.i stick to domestic and independent commercial jobs.sub contracting is too much like working for someone else rather than yourself IMO.
I sincerely hope all you guys get paid though. ::)roll
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whoever said yes thats a shame there were a good company i say you talk a load of crap, they took maybe 8 good jobs off me next ,zarars ,simple b ,quiz , river island,to name but a few kept me on at debs cas the manager demanded it and screwed me over 4 £800 yes ace company love em
It's a shame that you lost jobs to a National contractor but it happens, it's a bit like the way everyone buys from supermarkets, everyone moans about them but they are handy.
It's the way businesses try and save money, by having one big window cleaning bill instead of hundreds they save time/money on admin and sadly they don't care if the job isn't as good as it used to be as long as they can tick a box. I even heard of cleaning firms throwing the Window cleaning in for free
I know Primark only went over to Nationals after a windy they used dropped a ladder on someones head and had no PL insurance so they got sued. With a national someone else does all that admin and worrying about those issues. Not saying it's right but it's how it is
It'd be better if they were no nationals but there are so that's life as it is.
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i dont understand why anyone would do sub contract work.loads of horror stories of guys not getting paid for work(in all different trades)over the years.my grandad always said "dont put all your eggs in one basket"so i dont.they are all in hundreds of different baskets.i stick to domestic and independent commercial jobs.sub contracting is too much like working for someone else rather than yourself IMO.
I sincerely hope all you guys get paid though. ::)roll
Depends on how you run it, I have a lot of commercial sub contract work, and as long as you fight your corner and ask for a realistic price it can be great. It's work you can do any weather as early as you like.
As long as you don't rely on it and let your other work slide, that would be a mistake. If you get a lot of it, share it out with reliable people, that way you won't depend on it.
And if you're honest you do work for other people, everyone who offers a service does. As I said don't do it to the exclusion of your other work
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I used to sub Debehams for them until a few years ago until they halfed the contract for a few months and then decided to do it themselves . Since then the managers that I still keep in touch as I clean their homes have been disappointed with the quality. I'm not aware if they still do Debehams tough .So I guess this situation was coming sooner rather than later .
In my situation a subcontract never lasted more than 2-3 years as the big companies like Debehams always change contractors.It's always about the price with them never about the quality.
Recently I've been approached to clean a high street bank .They already had the prices set at half I would normally charge so I politely declined .
Good luck to everyone who's awaiting to get paid
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The debs contract I do used to be 3 times a week then went down to one.
I have turned low priced subbie work
The best was someone asked me to quote loads of Argos stores I asked what sort of ballpark figure they were looking at they said £4 a store I just laughed and turned it down
I've had some of my sub contract work for 5 or 6 years and it's all at a good rate. You have to negotiate as you would with all customers and if it's not worth it say no.
As I said before doesn't suit everyone and you must not rely on it
I used to sub Debehams for them until a few years ago until they halfed the contract for a few months and then decided to do it themselves . Since then the managers that I still keep in touch as I clean their homes have been disappointed with the quality. I'm not aware if they still do Debehams tough .So I guess this situation was coming sooner rather than later .
In my situation a subcontract never lasted more than 2-3 years as the big companies like Debehams always change contractors.It's always about the price with them never about the quality.
Recently I've been approached to clean a high street bank .They already had the prices set at half I would normally charge so I politely declined .
Good luck to everyone who's awaiting to get paid
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hey if your all looking for work give solar stev a ring he be more then happy to take you on as long as you pay him first for the work and he will then add over 100-200% on top of what he pays you , and you will have to fight for your money for weeks after
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i dont understand why anyone would do sub contract work.loads of horror stories of guys not getting paid for work(in all different trades)over the years.my grandad always said "dont put all your eggs in one basket"so i dont.they are all in hundreds of different baskets.i stick to domestic and independent commercial jobs.sub contracting is too much like working for someone else rather than yourself IMO.
I sincerely hope all you guys get paid though. ::)roll
We do this type of work because we see the reward as being worth the risk.
I'm not naive, I realise there's a chance of not being paid for work done, however when I weigh this up I still think it's worth the risk.
I'm owed a good chunk from them. I've also earnt a good chunk from them, without problem, over the last 4-5 years, I'm talking £80k + here, all earnt before 9am when you are just cleaning your first house of the day.
Fair enough that you are happy cleaning just houses and small commercial and there's nothing wrong with that whatsoever and I know you do just fine financially from it, but some of us are prepared to take bigger risks for bigger rewards, you must understand that?
It's a bit of a rubbish situation for a lot of people on here, myself included, but I'll not be getting too upset and negative about things. Life goes on.
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i dont understand why anyone would do sub contract work.loads of horror stories of guys not getting paid for work(in all different trades)over the years.my grandad always said "dont put all your eggs in one basket"so i dont.they are all in hundreds of different baskets.i stick to domestic and independent commercial jobs.sub contracting is too much like working for someone else rather than yourself IMO.
I sincerely hope all you guys get paid though. ::)roll
We do this type of work because we see the reward as being worth the risk.
I'm not naive, I realise there's a chance of not being paid for work done, however when I weigh this up I still think it's worth the risk.
I'm owed a good chunk from them. I've also earnt a good chunk from them, without problem, over the last 4-5 years, I'm talking £80k + here, all earnt before 9am when you are just cleaning your first house of the day.
Fair enough that you are happy cleaning just houses and small commercial and there's nothing wrong with that whatsoever and I know you do just fine financially from it, but some of us are prepared to take bigger risks for bigger rewards, you must understand that?
It's a bit of a rubbish situation for a lot of people on here, myself included, but I'll not be getting too upset and negative about things. Life goes on.
fair play but how are you not knackered with all the early starts?id hate it.i very rarely start before 9am(sometimes 8am but its rare)
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i dont understand why anyone would do sub contract work.loads of horror stories of guys not getting paid for work(in all different trades)over the years.my grandad always said "dont put all your eggs in one basket"so i dont.they are all in hundreds of different baskets.i stick to domestic and independent commercial jobs.sub contracting is too much like working for someone else rather than yourself IMO.
I sincerely hope all you guys get paid though. ::)roll
We do this type of work because we see the reward as being worth the risk.
I'm not naive, I realise there's a chance of not being paid for work done, however when I weigh this up I still think it's worth the risk.
I'm owed a good chunk from them. I've also earnt a good chunk from them, without problem, over the last 4-5 years, I'm talking £80k + here, all earnt before 9am when you are just cleaning your first house of the day.
Fair enough that you are happy cleaning just houses and small commercial and there's nothing wrong with that whatsoever and I know you do just fine financially from it, but some of us are prepared to take bigger risks for bigger rewards, you must understand that?
It's a bit of a rubbish situation for a lot of people on here, myself included, but I'll not be getting too upset and negative about things. Life goes on.
fair play but how are you not knackered with all the early starts?id hate it.i very rarely start before 9am(sometimes 8am but its rare)
One word......kids!
My 2 year old is up at 6am every morning regardless, I might aswell be out working from 6:30 or I'd be sat watching Peppa Pig with him. Seriously.
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i need 2 hours in the morning to wake up properly and have breakfast before i can even head out the door danny! ;D ;D ;D
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i need 2 hours in the morning to wake up properly and have breakfast before i can even head out the door danny! ;D ;D ;D
You lead a sheltered life (these days) Daz, seriously.
Really though, my working day will usually be done by 3pm, occasionally later but not often. I don't run myself into the ground like some do, it's really not required whether it be domestics/commercial or National work.
I like to have a good mix of the above work, keeps things interesting, brings in better money and suits my hours.
Tbh cleaning domestics all day I'd be bored to tears within a month I reckon.
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i need 2 hours in the morning to wake up properly and have breakfast before i can even head out the door danny! ;D ;D ;D
You lead a sheltered life (these days) Daz, seriously.
Really though, my working day will usually be done by 3pm, occasionally later but not often. I don't run myself into the ground like some do, it's really not required whether it be domestics/commercial or National work.
I like to have a good mix of the above work, keeps things interesting, brings in better money and suits my hours.
Tbh cleaning domestics all day I'd be bored to tears within a month I reckon.
makes me laugh when window cleaners say that. ;D
what makes cleaning commercial windows so much more exciting for you?at stupidaclock in the morning? ;D
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i need 2 hours in the morning to wake up properly and have breakfast before i can even head out the door danny! ;D ;D ;D
You lead a sheltered life (these days) Daz, seriously.
Really though, my working day will usually be done by 3pm, occasionally later but not often. I don't run myself into the ground like some do, it's really not required whether it be domestics/commercial or National work.
I like to have a good mix of the above work, keeps things interesting, brings in better money and suits my hours.
Tbh cleaning domestics all day I'd be bored to tears within a month I reckon.
makes me laugh when window cleaners say that. ;D
what makes cleaning commercial windows so much more exciting for you?at stupidaclock in the morning? ;D
It's only stupid o'clock in the morning to people who are in bed at that time, I'm up and out for before 7 and don't need to set an alarm so I wouldnt say it's stupid o clock really.
You make me laugh mate how blinkered and set in your ways that you are.
It wasn't long ago that you were saying how mad I am for leasing my van, waste of money, never own it etc etc at the same time you were losing days work with flat batteries, failed starter motors etc. Remember? 😂
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how can i be blinkered and set in my ways if i change my mind? ;D
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how can i be blinkered and set in my ways if i change my mind? ;D
Because you only change your mind when forced into it, ie, needing a new van quickly, hot water system giving you grief for weeks on end, extreme poles snapping and no longer suitable for everyday work after previously being the best things ever. There's countless examples.
Anyway have a good day mate, full day of domestics for me today, I may even bump into you at some point.
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how can i be blinkered and set in my ways if i change my mind? ;D
Because you only change your mind when forced into it, ie, needing a new van quickly, hot water system giving you grief for weeks on end, extreme poles snapping and no longer suitable for everyday work after previously being the best things ever. There's countless examples.
Anyway have a good day mate, full day of domestics for me today, I may even bump into you at some point.
hope you dont get too bored then danny! ;D
all the best mate.im heading out shortly.
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They are still trading -
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/03701836
They are operating in the North West under this limited company (check bottom right) - http://www.capsnorthwest.co.uk/
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Does anyone honestly think that they will be getting paid ?
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This is their credit rating. I've seen worse. When Gordon Brown was the chancellor.
(http://res.cloudinary.com/dbe1coaue/image/upload/v1501801119/IMG_0149_pkuaga.jpg)
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Waiting for the paint to dry .
Hard to deduce if the recent changes with Paul Leaving are the cause of this mess.
I'm owed a few quid and there are some worse off than me .
We can assume the worst but we may not be right.
Its a place none of us want to end up in.
I have provided service to them for close on a decade and up until now I cannot complain with payments.
It's a little worrying but at the end of the day if we make it through a dark tunnel and they don't then who is the most miserable?
If they pull this sword from the stone then they deserve the throne they sit upon.
All the best for Caps Ltd
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Waiting for the paint to dry .
Hard to deduce if the recent changes with Paul Leaving are the cause of this mess.
I'm owed a few quid and there are some worse off than me .
We can assume the worst but we may not be right.
Its a place none of us want to end up in.
I have provided service to them for close on a decade and up until now I cannot complain with payments.
It's a little worrying but at the end of the day if we make it through a dark tunnel and they don't then who is the most miserable?
If they pull this sword from the stone then they deserve the throne they sit upon.
All the best for Caps Ltd
Really?
They've made no attempt to contact anyone and have left us completely guessing this week. Unforgivable imo.
Some business' fail, that's understandable but to me this looks like a case of illegally transferring of assets, they are still officially trading!!! More than likely waiting for the next few cheques to clear then the money will be transferred to private accounts and CAPS Ltd will then cease trading.
Trading insolvently is a crime and I'd suggest that is what is happening here.
The silence from CAPS this week has been deafening.
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You won't get paid prepack job if they thought anything of you that would have contacted you and explained what was going on.
Another set of merchant bankers .
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Anybody had a cheque in the post today? Just over £50 coming my way ;D
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Five year wait 🤪
Darran
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Yeah got my cheque the other day. £41.05.. ;D ;D ;D I might just frame it
Can't believe it's been 5 years. I put in my claim and forgot about it and expected nothing,
I did a bit of digging and when I found that they rented their offices, it was clear they had no assets so I knew there wouldn't be much left after the tax man got his. I used to work in Litigation and debt collecting when I was a very young man and know a little about Insolvency
I'm OK about it, I did well out of CAPS I turned over a fair amount from them and it was a small part of my turnover and I lost a small percentage of that. I ended up doing some work for the new firm they all went to work at after, as well
I never relied on it, contracts come, contracts go
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Yeah got my cheque the other day. £41.05.. ;D ;D ;D I might just frame it
Can't believe it's been 5 years. I put in my claim and forgot about it and expected nothing,
I did a bit of digging and when I found that they rented their offices, it was clear they had no assets so I knew there wouldn't be much left after the tax man got his. I used to work in Litigation and debt collecting when I was a very young man and know a little about Insolvency
I'm OK about it, I did well out of CAPS I turned over a fair amount from them and it was a small part of my turnover and I lost a small percentage of that. I ended up doing some work for the new firm they all went to work at after, as well
I never relied on it, contracts come, contracts go
Well said. I did quite well out of them also over the years, some very well priced work that continued on long after their demise.