Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: robert mitchell on May 27, 2017, 11:55:08 am
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=xoc0z2dpE7o
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Looks well built.
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looks pretty good and well built, think i would still go with the water works version mainly because of the width of the reel.
Wonder what the price they will be
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Can't see point in going for those expensive ones when you can build an home made one for less than fifty quid
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I'm pleased to see more companies bringing out there own design
It will lower the price for those that don't which to build
Just need few more companies to bring there's out
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It does look well built and I like the fact you can set the speed how you like it .
Also when it snags , instead of the motor just stalling and drawing a huge current , the controller senses it and cuts the power .
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Can't see point in going for those expensive ones when you can build an home made one for less than fifty quid
Daft init. More money than sense some people.
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Can't see point in going for those expensive ones when you can build an home made one for less than fifty quid
Daft init. More money than sense some people.
Maybe. But the cheap DIY units use 24volts motors on 12v power supply. That not only reduces their speed but also reduces torque.
Supply of components isn't a given either. It wasn't too long ago when the supplier shipped wrong goods and then said that chain sprocket drives were no longer available as they were now belt drives.
I've also been concerned about the lack of a chain guard on the other ones. You run a factory without a chain guard on one of your machines, H&S will be on you as quick as a flash.
I also don't think much of the reversable handle that locks the hose in place when driving down the road of the PF one. Does it have to be removed when using the reel and replaced when the job is complete? That's a wait and see as Andrew never did a field demonstration with it working.
Price is obviously an unknown so may impact on desirability.
For me the lack of a hose layering system not been largely ignored. We haven't really had a good design of under body rollers either (in all due respects to Mr Jordan King) that will allow us to pull the hose out at an acute angle to the van.
For me I have to find ways of making the job easier. So an electric hose reel is a must for me in the near future. I thought I was going to pass out just winding in 100 meters of hose yesterday. My son usually does it these days. Had there been no wfp I'm sure my working life trad off ladders would have ended 5 years ago.
So it not always a desire that drives a purchase, it can also be a necessity.
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Can't see point in going for those expensive ones when you can build an home made one for less than fifty quid
Daft init. More money than sense some people.
Maybe. But the cheap DIY units use 24volts motors on 12v power supply. That not only reduces their speed but also reduces torque.
Supply of components isn't a given either. It wasn't too long ago when the supplier shipped wrong goods and then said that chain sprocket drives were no longer available as they were now belt drives.
I've also been concerned about the lack of a chain guard on the other ones. You run a factory without a chain guard on one of your machines, H&S will be on you as quick as a flash.
I also don't think much of the reversable handle that locks the hose in place when driving down the road of the PF one. Does it have to be removed when using the reel and replaced when the job is complete? That's a wait and see as Andrew never did a field demonstration with it working.
Price is obviously an unknown so may impact on desirability.
For me the lack of a hose layering system not been largely ignored. We haven't really had a good design of under body rollers either (in all due respects to Mr Jordan King) that will allow us to pull the hose out at an acute angle to the van.
For me I have to find ways of making the job easier. So an electric hose reel is a must for me in the near future. I thought I was going to pass out just winding in 100 meters of hose yesterday. My son usually does it these days. Had there been no wfp I'm sure my working life trad off ladders would have ended 5 years ago.
So it not always a desire that drives a purchase, it can also be a necessity.
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My reel is a 24 volt motor, from mr king
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A guy on the Facebook page said they are going to be £450 plus vat , looks solid enough to last forever .
They need to make a double stack version .
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A guy on the Facebook page said they are going to be £450 plus vat , looks solid enough to last forever .
They need to make a double stack version .
That's looking a little better, but we need a demo of it in action. Its not on their website yet so I would imagine this is early doors atm.
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Looks good, An electric reel with a locking swivel base would be a great feature, you could then use it for side or rear doors
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I need a couple new reels for one van,been waiting for different companies to bring out there versions
May look at these if no others are released shortly
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Looks good, An electric reel with a locking swivel base would be a great feature, you could then use it for side or rear doors
i use a base of a swivel chair for this
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Looks very well built. Depends on weight and size for me.
The controller is nothing new. Had the controller since 2014. It was my idea to build the controller and I purchased it.
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Can't see point in going for those expensive ones when you can build an home made one for less than fifty quid
Daft init. More money than sense some people.
Maybe. But the cheap DIY units use 24volts motors on 12v power supply. That not only reduces their speed but also reduces torque.
Supply of components isn't a given either. It wasn't too long ago when the supplier shipped wrong goods and then said that chain sprocket drives were no longer available as they were now belt drives.
I've also been concerned about the lack of a chain guard on the other ones. You run a factory without a chain guard on one of your machines, H&S will be on you as quick as a flash.
I also don't think much of the reversable handle that locks the hose in place when driving down the road of the PF one. Does it have to be removed when using the reel and replaced when the job is complete? That's a wait and see as Andrew never did a field demonstration with it working.
Price is obviously an unknown so may impact on desirability.
For me the lack of a hose layering system not been largely ignored. We haven't really had a good design of under body rollers either (in all due respects to Mr Jordan King) that will allow us to pull the hose out at an acute angle to the van.
For me I have to find ways of making the job easier. So an electric hose reel is a must for me in the near future. I thought I was going to pass out just winding in 100 meters of hose yesterday. My son usually does it these days. Had there been no wfp I'm sure my working life trad off ladders would have ended 5 years ago.
So it not always a desire that drives a purchase, it can also be a necessity.
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Yes i am using a 24v motor with a 12v supply, it would be pretty easy to use 24v however been using mine now for a few months with no issues and the 12v supply is about perfect speed imo, i dont see any need for it to go any faster or produce more torque.
50 quid vs 500 quid, each to their own but id rather spend that money on something else not to do with work but i appreciate a lot of guys spend their hard earned on things such as "systems" for 5 grand etc.
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"Ditto" same as above.
Health n safety this and health n safety that. When was the last time a health n safety chap ( or lass) checked out your home or van equipment. Everybody is quick to jump on the health n safety band wagon.
Oh no theres a puddle on the floor! Where's the HnS cones warning people of a puddle cause they cant use common sense or their own eyes and have to be told 😂😂😂😂
So i use a 24v motor with a 12v power supply and no chain guard (as seen in many of my pictures). This gives plenty of speed when the reel gets going and if a little old dear or some dumb ass person who doesnt see a bright yellow hose on the floor decides to stand on it.......guess what, it simply stops, so no accident happens.
Chain guard is good again if your a dumb ##S operator and fancy stopping your reel from winding up by grabbing the chain or dangling a screw driver into it. People have mentioned little fingers getting in.....i would question why little hands are getting into your van when your working any way??? Oh i leave the doors open.......well your a fool then arent you!! Leave them open for anyone to see in there or take whatever they want or touch/play with whatever they want!!!! And these same people moan at HnS as if that will make it ok.....oh they can touch my electric motor because it has a chain guard on it......there aint any other possible way in which they can hurt themselves
But on that note, if i find someone in the back of my van i dont think HnS comes into play to protect them either 😉😂😂
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"Ditto" same as above.
Health n safety this and health n safety that. When was the last time a health n safety chap ( or lass) checked out your home or van equipment. Everybody is quick to jump on the health n safety band wagon.
Oh no theres a puddle on the floor! Where's the HnS cones warning people of a puddle cause they cant use common sense or their own eyes and have to be told 😂😂😂😂
So i use a 24v motor with a 12v power supply and no chain guard (as seen in many of my pictures). This gives plenty of speed when the reel gets going and if a little old dear or some dumb ass person who doesnt see a bright yellow hose on the floor decides to stand on it.......guess what, it simply stops, so no accident happens.
Chain guard is good again if your a dumb ##S operator and fancy stopping your reel from winding up by grabbing the chain or dangling a screw driver into it. People have mentioned little fingers getting in.....i would question why little hands are getting into your van when your working any way??? Oh i leave the doors open.......well your a fool then arent you!! Leave them open for anyone to see in there or take whatever they want or touch/play with whatever they want!!!! And these same people moan at HnS as if that will make it ok.....oh they can touch my electric motor because it has a chain guard on it......there aint any other possible way in which they can hurt themselves
But on that note, if i find someone in the back of my van i dont think HnS comes into play to protect them either 😉😂😂
Your doing 30 to 35 properties a day with a minimum charge of £10 and your harping on about skimping on health and
safety for the price of a chain guard.
Let you in on a secrete, the guys who end up having accidents tend to be the guys who think they are too smart to have one.
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The service of window cleaning is only available to us because people cant be bothered to clean their own windows or they are too busy to do so. Which creates a market that we supply a service to. From this forum alone, we know that our prices can fluctuate and we convince ourselves its due to our professionalism or equipment or this cost or that cost. When truth of the matter is, it depends how much money we want to make and how much people are prepared to pay for our service. End off!!
Its the same principles when it comes to this topic. Make your own electric reel or spend money and let someone else do it for you
Myself, i wont pay for something i can do myself or prepared to do myself. If you wish to pay what i believe to be expensive to simply push a button and wind your hose in for you, then obviously go ahead. Convince yourselfs that its a wise investment and take delight in the built in chain guard as well. Its your choice and freedom to do so. As it is others to save themselves funds and create their own take on a modified hose reel.
Its our clients choice to pay our fees or simply do it themselves but we dont criticise their choice or look to find fault. Yet some feel the need to do so, i can only conclude that it says alot about the person doing so........
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its a bit over engineered cant see the point of vairiable speed or read out display just keep it simple it needs to be simple to be fixed by the user if anything is wrong. I have the water works electric reel basic but effective very easy to fix if anything goes wrong .even if it has a handel to get you buy you will still have down time trying to fix it, that's if you can .I suspect a lot of shiners aren't electrical engineers .imo
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The service of window cleaning is only available to us because people cant be bothered to clean their own windows or they are too busy to do so. Which creates a market that we supply a service to. From this forum alone, we know that our prices can fluctuate and we convince ourselves its due to our professionalism or equipment or this cost or that cost. When truth of the matter is, it depends how much money we want to make and how much people are prepared to pay for our service. End off!!
Its the same principles when it comes to this topic. Make your own electric reel or spend money and let someone else do it for you
Myself, i wont pay for something i can do myself or prepared to do myself. If you wish to pay what i believe to be expensive to simply push a button and wind your hose in for you, then obviously go ahead. Convince yourselfs that its a wise investment and take delight in the built in chain guard as well. Its your choice and freedom to do so. As it is others to save themselves funds and create their own take on a modified hose reel.
Its our clients choice to pay our fees or simply do it themselves but we dont criticise their choice or look to find fault. Yet some feel the need to do so, i can only conclude that it says alot about the person doing so........
There's no need for all that blaa, my point is your doing alright so instead of harping on about it will never happen unless you do
this or do that or stupid or whatever why not spend a few quid more and ensure it wont happen.
Nothing wrong with DIY to save a few quid but at least do the job right, finish it and cover the chain.
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Theres no need for a chain guard if you are a solo operator, obv if you employ its a diff story.
My reel has the chain on the right, the on switch is to the left which i operate with my left hand, my right hand guides the hose on. How on earth is any part of my body going into the chain?
Not only that but the 12v system doesnt have the torque, i can stop the reel with my hand fairly easy.
Now i know it is possible i could put my hand into the chain cogs but its also possible i could trap my finger in the door or fall out of bed on a morning. Look at how many use ladders everyday, much higher risk of serious injury than a reel without a chain guard, especially since your hand should not be in the chain and if it is your other hand should not be switching it on at the same time!
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The service of window cleaning is only available to us because people cant be bothered to clean their own windows or they are too busy to do so. Which creates a market that we supply a service to. From this forum alone, we know that our prices can fluctuate and we convince ourselves its due to our professionalism or equipment or this cost or that cost. When truth of the matter is, it depends how much money we want to make and how much people are prepared to pay for our service. End off!!
Its the same principles when it comes to this topic. Make your own electric reel or spend money and let someone else do it for you
Myself, i wont pay for something i can do myself or prepared to do myself. If you wish to pay what i believe to be expensive to simply push a button and wind your hose in for you, then obviously go ahead. Convince yourselfs that its a wise investment and take delight in the built in chain guard as well. Its your choice and freedom to do so. As it is others to save themselves funds and create their own take on a modified hose reel.
Its our clients choice to pay our fees or simply do it themselves but we dont criticise their choice or look to find fault. Yet some feel the need to do so, i can only conclude that it says alot about the person doing so........
There's no need for all that blaa, my point is your doing alright so instead of harping on about it will never happen unless you do
this or do that or stupid or whatever why not spend a few quid more and ensure it wont happen.
Nothing wrong with DIY to save a few quid but at least do the job right, finish it and cover the chain.
Just because hes doing alright doesnt mean he needs a chain guard any more than he needs a waterworks reel or a ferrari, if you can afford it AND you want it AND its beneficial fine. but it none of those apply its still a waste of money no matter how much money you have
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Theres no need for a chain guard if you are a solo operator, obv if you employ its a diff story.
My reel has the chain on the right, the on switch is to the left which i operate with my left hand, my right hand guides the hose on. How on earth is any part of my body going into the chain?
Not only that but the 12v system doesnt have the torque, i can stop the reel with my hand fairly easy.
Now i know it is possible i could put my hand into the chain cogs but its also possible i could trap my finger in the door or fall out of bed on a morning. Look at how many use ladders everyday, much higher risk of serious injury than a reel without a chain guard, especially since your hand should not be in the chain and if it is your other hand should not be switching it on at the same time!
I haven't used your 12volts system so if it doesn't have the power to damage fingers then that's fair enough, if it does
have the power then its only common sense to cover it up.
People use ladders because as with your unprotected chain they think they are never going to get injured using them,
maybe they wont but isn't it better to remove the risk.