Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: jonny thompson on May 26, 2017, 04:10:48 pm
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I've been wfp for 7 years now, so decided to treat myself to a new system previously I had a ionics pro 5, after looking around I decided to use a company from Suffolk call K Systems the man in charge is called Neal, he came to me in Solihull on Wednesday and fitted me a 700 litre system, 2 man set up both with boilers for hot water, used it all day Thursday, brilliant bit of kit , stupidity I did something to one of the boilers Thursday evening which meant it needed a higher flow rate to switch on , something I wanted to avoid having two of us working, I phoned Neal with the problem and he drove a 300 mile round trip to fix it for me , first class aftercare and yes he had already been paid in full.
Highly recommend
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Surprised that he would drive 300 miles to fix something that was not his fault.
Maybe he has changed his ways but there has been a lot of negative feedback about K systems on this forum.
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I can't think of any other fitter who would do this at such short notice ,not sure of past negative comments but did me a massive favour today, and it was my problem for tinkering
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Normally if you have a problem you would be expected to get the van to the installer yourself.
Especially as the problem was not his fault I am mystified as to why he would travel such a long distance to fix the problem at your premises.
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Don't knock it , some people are decent, the worlds gone mad if your trying to knock someone for doing a favour
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Did he charge you for doing so?
Or is there something your missing out from the story? Because i struggle to understand why you couldnt be guided over the phone to undo the faffing you had done. Which would have saved fuel cost and time.......thats yours as well as his.
It seems like something is missing??
Or perhaps whatever the negative past comments are, hes trying to rectify his reputation and so willing to fill tank of petrol more than once and enjoys driving on motorways in spare time to fix some faffing of perfectly good equipment left in full working condition when he last left.
Oh no, this forum.is rubbing off on me! Im becoming more sceptical :o ::)roll
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I know someone with a K system, he said it is OK but the after sales service is poor. Also a friend of his had a K system and there was some fault with it and he could not get the company to rectify it.
This was a few years ago so maybe Neal has changed since then.
Also there has been a lot more negative than positive feedback about K Sytems on the forum, which is why personally I would not wish to do business with Neal.
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What happened was I read the manual that comes with the boiler regarding turning a screw under the system which would result in me needing a lower flow, I over tightening it and broke the thread resulting in water squirting out everywhere, I phoned Neal and as I said he came and fixed it and for no charge, so it's a massive 👍Up from me, system is great
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I'd be interested in why you opted for the stacked hose reels and what you think of using them?
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The main reason was freeing up more room in the van, only worked 2 days with them but seem good
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Watcha JT, don't tell me Ade's working with you ;D.
KRO
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Looks neatly installed.
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Well happy with it £3200 for 700 and hot is pretty good
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I've had a k system fitted last year,seems decent enough,I needed one pronto as I was sick using a trolly as my other van was off the road,rang Neil up and told me there was at least a 3 week wait,he said if I drove to him he could do it on that weekend which I rang on a Thursday afternoon, I grabbed the opportunity and was very greatfull which still resulting a 3 hour round trip.,some people are decent and do go out of their way to help you.
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True mate , seems on here people are looking for faults in people, I can't see the big companies coming out like Neal did
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Well happy with it £3200 for 700 and hot is pretty good
Bargain.
:D
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He fitted mine about 6 years ago and it's been great.
Yes at times hard to get hold of but when I've been in his company seems a decent bloke and if I was in need of a new system and was going to use a company I'd be straight on the phone to Neal.
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where about are gas bottles and are the heaters vented externally? i couldn't see in the photo
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where about are gas bottles and are the heaters vented externally? i couldn't see in the photo
I've seen John's van. He has a vent in the roof, assuming he still drives the red van.
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Hi mate, swapped the red van, his put the heater right by the side doors , so need them open , gas bottle in metal cage, also proper gas filling on the side of the van so can fill up at petrol stations, ionics system has been good, but two hard to fix and 2 and a half times the price
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Sorry I'm not knocking you fair play to you but as far as a bargain goes you don't have 1.
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Disagree, if your handy and can do it your self then yes you can save a fortune, if you can get it fitted on your drive 2 man set up with hot for less then well done, or the budget companies were more expensive
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It's very very basic DIY you just need a tank that's secured properly
the rest is easy stuff,you've paid over £2000 fitting.
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If you have no clue fair enough but as far as a bargain goes no,a bargain would be a 3 month old hot grippa 600ltr for that money fitted,that would be considered a bargain.
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I was taking the wee wee with my "bargain comment"
Like NWH says, its about 2 grand or more overpriced, its a very basic setup.
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As I said same as the other budget ranges, but cheaper, look on cleaning wharehose , purfredom , etc, what I've learnt having ionics in the past same as your grippa, they charge a lot more yes better filters ect but the fact is as long as the water is deionised why spend double the money,
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Sorry mate but £3200 for that ......and people say Ionic are robbers ......
I know it works but come on , thats DIY no more
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I've used those reels with hot water the washers inside the elbows won't last 5 minutes you'd be better off upgrading the reels you'll keep getting leaks.
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Personally I think all these systems are a rip off.
in its very basic form all we are doing is purifying some water, transporting it in a tank and pumping it to a brush head and people spend 3-5k plus on these things. Its ludicrous imo.
My entire system must have cost about 500 quid and does the same Job as anyone else's costing 10x as much
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Those heaters are not even for WFP they are for a quick shower or washing a dirty dog down,used alday everyday they won't last long. The equipment in that van is in the hundreds not thousands,no where near thousands.
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None of these heaters are for wfp, I've used a cheaper fasfar in my other van which lasted 3 years so time will tell
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Maybe not but they are more robust the diesel heaters mine is still going 11 years later,I've had an L5 heater it fell to bits I just wish i could buy a diesel heater that heated the water to the same temperature as the gas ones. If you took the tank and tubing out the van and laid all the bits on the floor you would have little left of any value,people that still fit these rely on newbies to earn from it coz anyone doing this job any sensible length of time wouldn't pay that.
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Not wanting to shoot you down so bluntly after reading my previous comment , i want to make it clear that i am Diy myself and use L5 also , had the same one for 7 years i think , ok you had it fitted for you , maybe you couldnt do it yourself , some cant .
But for £3200 you should have at the very least stacking reels similar to Purefreedom , not 2 clovers cobbled together with 10mm nuts and bolts , also boilers with flues and roof vents , my only other concern is the distance of left boiler to van seat , could be angle of photo not sure .
Rich
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Nwh I've been doing it for 24 years wfp 8 years, as I've said can't do it myself, didn't want to pay more than £3000 ,as I've paid top money before, of course the fitter makes a lot of money, but that's what they charge, if you can find the same cheaper and someone to do it then share his details so we all know
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P@f I do agree with the hosereels , should be better ones, I've got the gas filler on the side of van , but didn't want roof vents in new van, I will check on the seat though
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at the end of the day if your happy with the system and the price you paid for it then it doesnt matter what other windys think jonny. :)
i paid around £1500 for my system( including £80 tank fitting),crash tested pure freedom cage,DI,pumpbox and heavy duty cox reel.(not including poles).
as for hot water i wont put a gas heater in my van ever again after a gas leak a few months ago and a loud bang and flash of fire. ::)roll
cold water system only from now on for me.