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UK General Cleaning Forum => General Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Paul Wisdom on May 09, 2017, 07:07:26 pm

Title: Oil staining on block paving
Post by: Paul Wisdom on May 09, 2017, 07:07:26 pm
Got a customer with lots of oil stains on her drive see photo.

What do you guys use to shift it - if it can be that is :(
Title: Re: Oil staining on block paving
Post by: Smurf on May 09, 2017, 07:14:21 pm
Just replace the blocks springs to mind.
Title: Re: Oil staining on block paving
Post by: Kev Martin on May 09, 2017, 08:55:58 pm
Miracle Liquid Poultice A & B. Or take em out and flip them
Title: Re: Oil staining on block paving
Post by: the king on May 09, 2017, 10:10:55 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4LKOVJCQj4
Title: Re: Oil staining on block paving
Post by: M Roberts on May 10, 2017, 07:05:31 am
Use the search button mate been covered numerous times, they don't look that  bad so should be able to remove the majority  of the stains.

Worse case move them to a different area, but you can't 'flip em' !
Title: Re: Oil staining on block paving
Post by: Kev Martin on May 11, 2017, 07:45:05 am
Use the search button mate been covered numerous times, they don't look that  bad so should be able to remove the majority  of the stains.

Worse case move them to a different area, but you can't 'flip em' !

Yes you can!  I have done loads of them!  It takes a couple of minutes or so to run a chamfer on to them with a rotary grinding  stone
Title: Re: Oil staining on block paving
Post by: M Roberts on May 11, 2017, 12:50:16 pm
Use the search button mate been covered numerous times, they don't look that  bad so should be able to remove the majority  of the stains.

Worse case move them to a different area, but you can't 'flip em' !

Yes you can!  I have done loads of them!  It takes a couple of minutes or so to run a chamfer on to them with a rotary grinding  stone
welll never heard of that b4, that's another video I would like to see, have you got a  business YouTube channel ?
Title: Re: Oil staining on block paving
Post by: Kev Martin on May 11, 2017, 04:31:38 pm
Use the search button mate been covered numerous times, they don't look that  bad so should be able to remove the majority  of the stains.

Worse case move them to a different area, but you can't 'flip em' !

Yes you can!  I have done loads of them!  It takes a couple of minutes or so to run a chamfer on to them with a rotary grinding  stone
welll never heard of that b4, that's another video I would like to see, have you got a  business YouTube channel ?

What do you want to see a video for?  Pop down and I will do one in front of you!  How do you think we chamfer natural stone in situ?  I even have a special tool to do them!!!  Block and Clay Paviours are a dam side easier to do than quartz and granite because they are soft ::)roll
Bring Mike Halliday with you and I will give both of you sceptics a demonstration of Rotary Cleaning as well ;D ;D
Title: Re: Oil staining on block paving
Post by: M Roberts on May 11, 2017, 07:19:53 pm
Use the search button mate been covered numerous times, they don't look that  bad so should be able to remove the majority  of the stains.

Worse case move them to a different area, but you can't 'flip em' !

Yes you can!  I have done loads of them!  It takes a couple of minutes or so to run a chamfer on to them with a rotary grinding  stone
welll never heard of that b4, that's another video I would like to see, have you got a  business YouTube channel ?

What do you want to see a video for?  Pop down and I will do one in front of you!  How do you think we chamfer natural stone in situ?  I even have a special tool to do them!!!  Block and Clay Paviours are a dam side easier to do than quartz and granite because they are soft ::)roll
Bring Mike Halliday with you and I will give both of you sceptics a demonstration of Rotary Cleaning as well ;D ;D
Maybe its me but I am guessing most guys wont have a 'special' tool to grind a block pavior ;D ;D

 I think you will find its not just Mike and myself that question the logic and results of cleaning block paving via a rotary, we will need a bus or 2  for all the 'Sceptics'  ;D ;D,
the production for this video must of cost a fortune as we was promised it over 3 years ago  ;D ;D

On a serious note your vac head works a treat on the numatic  ;)
Title: Re: Oil staining on block paving
Post by: Kev Martin on May 11, 2017, 07:40:37 pm
Thanks for the positive comments Mike.  The chamfer tool was developed for Marble, Limestone,  Granite etc but it works well on most stone.  Regarding Rotary cleaning Klindex have now developed the Maxi Orbit which as well as Rotating, Oscillates as well.  So surface cleaning results are now even better.
Title: Re: Oil staining on block paving
Post by: Mike Halliday on May 11, 2017, 11:12:41 pm
I don't believe you can grind an edge to a block to a good enough standard so that it would not stand out a mile.  This is why cuts are left, if you could put a  the edge to a block set then they would do it to the cuts. But the grinding is irrelevant and anyone who knows anything about block paving will know why ::)roll

A hint..... The face and the back look different
Title: Re: Oil staining on block paving
Post by: Kev Martin on May 12, 2017, 01:18:37 am
I don't believe you can grind an edge to a block to a good enough standard so that it would not stand out a mile.  This is why cuts are left, if you could put a  the edge to a block set then they would do it to the cuts. But the grinding is irrelevant and anyone who knows anything about block paving will know why ::)roll

A hint..... The face and the back look different

Mike

There are a lot of things you don't believe and it is not the first time you have expressed your sceptical views.  Also I know at one time as well you were a bricklayer so therefore you also know and would have learned during your apprenticeship that there is, what appears to be a difference between the fired and the unfired sides of brick. 

The questions now then are:

1.  How many block paved drives have you laid using clay paviours?
2.  Why does the aesthetic appearance of the chamfered face appear to differ from the opposing face?
3.  What causes the two faces to appear differently and are they actually different?
4.  Can the opposing face be altered to virtually match?
5.  If so how?

No one said there would not be a little difference!
No one said it would be perfect!
What I did say is they can be flipped if the stain is so bad!
What I didn't say is that in 99% of most cases is WE can get the stain out however,  the advice I gave was for others who would not be able to.

Finally try to understand that the the bit in the signature block under every one of our posts really is true whether YOU believe it or not!
Title: Re: Oil staining on block paving
Post by: Mike Halliday on May 12, 2017, 03:18:34 am
Typeing loads of waffle does not make your other post anymore right, you cannot grind  a satisfactory/ acceptable edge to the reverse side of block sets, you cannot reverse most sets as the appearance is different on the  reverse.

See Kev a simple answer that is true, it requires no waffle to Hide behind (the truth seldom does)

I use the term 'I believe' out of courtesy....  it's more polite than telling you to stop talking your usual rubbish,
Title: Re: Oil staining on block paving
Post by: Kev Martin on May 12, 2017, 06:12:28 am
OK Mike!  ::)roll

I guess you won't be attending one of our stone courses then! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Oil staining on block paving
Post by: Paul Wisdom on May 13, 2017, 08:03:31 am
Thanks for the advice guys.

Going to try the Seala block oil stain remover and cross my fingers :)
Title: Re: Oil staining on block paving
Post by: Craigp on May 13, 2017, 04:05:55 pm
Back to the topic, I see there's a few products to use having used the search button, but does it need a proprietary product?

Has anyone tried different solvents? IE. White spirt, acetone, isopropyl, ect?
Title: Re: Oil staining on block paving
Post by: drive surgeon on May 15, 2017, 09:59:13 pm
Good luck Paul  :)
Title: Re: Oil staining on block paving
Post by: Don Simon on May 15, 2017, 10:59:27 pm
Miracle Liquid Poultice A & B. Or take em out and flip them
I tried om my own drive and the underside was worse, but sometimes you get lucky  :D
Title: Re: Oil staining on block paving
Post by: Don Simon on May 15, 2017, 11:01:05 pm
I don't believe you can grind an edge to a block to a good enough standard so that it would not stand out a mile.  This is why cuts are left, if you could put a  the edge to a block set then they would do it to the cuts. But the grinding is irrelevant and anyone who knows anything about block paving will know why ::)roll

A hint..... The face and the back look different
Agree on that , The face gets weathered and other side will stand out like a bishop in a brothel.
Title: Re: Oil staining on block paving
Post by: Craigp on May 17, 2017, 05:29:47 pm
That's right and the aggregate is exposed on older block paving if you look closely, this is what makes the biggest visual change in appearance.