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Title: Univalve or ring sizes
Post by: Paul erithwc on May 09, 2017, 10:48:14 am
Does any one know the what size o rings I need for the exceed univalve  ???

Thanks Paul
Title: Re: Univalve or ring sizes
Post by: M & C Window Cleaning on May 09, 2017, 01:39:16 pm
That depends what OD size hose you are using. Measure the OD of the hose and choose an 'o' clamp that it sits between. I.e. If your hose OD is 8mm choose a clamp measurement of 7-9mm etc.

If you are using PU hose on both sides of the Univalve you may not need them at all. I've not used 'o' clamps since I switched to PU hose. When you push a PU hose over a plastic barb it seems to grip tighter the harder you pull on it. If you're using a PVC hose though, you will definitely need 'o' clamps .
Title: Re: Univalve or ring sizes
Post by: Paul erithwc on May 09, 2017, 01:42:38 pm
That depends what OD size hose you are using. Measure the OD of the hose and choose an 'o' clamp that it sits between. I.e. If your hose OD is 8mm choose a clamp measurement of 7-9mm etc.

If you are using PU hose on both sides of the Univalve you may not need them at all. I've not used 'o' clamps since I switched to PU hose. When you push a PU hose over a plastic barb it seems to grip tighter the harder you pull on it. If you're using a PVC hose though, you will definitely need 'o' clamps .

I'm after the size of the internal rubber o rings as one of my univalves is starting to leak.

Thanks Paul
Title: Re: Univalve or ring sizes
Post by: Spruce on May 09, 2017, 03:37:44 pm
I thinks its
7.5mm id x 3.7mm cross section.

I believe it isn't an off the shelf part. Why not leave a message for Steve at Exceed and ask him to send you one.
Title: Re: Univalve or ring sizes
Post by: Paul erithwc on May 09, 2017, 04:43:43 pm
I thinks its
7.5mm id x 3.7mm cross section.

I believe it isn't an off the shelf part. Why not leave a message for Steve at Exceed and ask him to send you one.

I didn't think I would get a reply as they removed the video on how to service the univalve last year .
Title: Re: Univalve or ring sizes
Post by: Spruce on May 09, 2017, 06:36:37 pm
I thinks its
7.5mm id x 3.7mm cross section.

I believe it isn't an off the shelf part. Why not leave a message for Steve at Exceed and ask him to send you one.

I didn't think I would get a reply as they removed the video on how to service the univalve last year .

He did. On one of the forums he actually gave the size of the o ring but I failed to find it.
On a couple of occasions in the past I've asked for the odd Aquadaptor part not on the site and he always obliged.
Title: Re: Univalve or ring sizes
Post by: ben M on May 09, 2017, 08:41:52 pm
Does any one know the what size o rings I need for the exceed univalve  ???

Thanks Paul
i using cable ties, so much easier for maintenance
Title: Re: Univalve or ring sizes
Post by: M & C Window Cleaning on May 09, 2017, 10:10:13 pm
That depends what OD size hose you are using. Measure the OD of the hose and choose an 'o' clamp that it sits between. I.e. If your hose OD is 8mm choose a clamp measurement of 7-9mm etc.

If you are using PU hose on both sides of the Univalve you may not need them at all. I've not used 'o' clamps since I switched to PU hose. When you push a PU hose over a plastic barb it seems to grip tighter the harder you pull on it. If you're using a PVC hose though, you will definitely need 'o' clamps .

I'm after the size of the internal rubber o rings as one of my univalves is starting to leak.

Thanks Paul

Sorry Paul. My bad. Misread your post.

Must admit I thought mine was leaking the other day as water was dribling out of the pole but turned out to be leaky connector at the base of the pole. I'm running tubeless. (misnomer, I know)
Title: Re: Univalve or ring sizes
Post by: KS Cleaning on May 09, 2017, 10:36:48 pm
That depends what OD size hose you are using. Measure the OD of the hose and choose an 'o' clamp that it sits between. I.e. If your hose OD is 8mm choose a clamp measurement of 7-9mm etc.

If you are using PU hose on both sides of the Univalve you may not need them at all. I've not used 'o' clamps since I switched to PU hose. When you push a PU hose over a plastic barb it seems to grip tighter the harder you pull on it. If you're using a PVC hose though, you will definitely need 'o' clamps .

I'm after the size of the internal rubber o rings as one of my univalves is starting to leak.

Thanks Paul
Have you checked the push fit connection from pole hose to brush? If you use an O ring at the gooseneck as per instructions this O ring  can sometimes slip up the hose to the push fit connection causing it to leak? If there is a problem with the univalve itself I would consider it a throw away item if out of warranty.
Title: Re: Univalve or ring sizes
Post by: Smudger on May 11, 2017, 07:05:50 pm
to be honest I'm giving up on the univalve - out of 8 i have only 2 remain functional and with no response from steve I'm now trialling the gardiners gooseneck valve

Darran
Title: Re: Univalve or ring sizes
Post by: george renwick on May 11, 2017, 09:37:00 pm
I phoned them up at exceed and was told to send it back and he would fix it for me  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Univalve or ring sizes
Post by: k.diver on May 11, 2017, 09:40:18 pm
I phoned them up at exceed and was told to send it back and he would fix it for me  ;D ;D

george , were you in the REME ,  in 1984?
Title: Re: Univalve or ring sizes
Post by: Spruce on May 11, 2017, 09:44:03 pm
to be honest I'm giving up on the univalve - out of 8 i have only 2 remain functional and with no response from steve I'm now trialling the gardiners gooseneck valve

Darran
Its the need for regular servicing that concerns me with the Gardiner's goose-neck valve. Its just a miniature version of Peter Fogwill's Aquatap.
I have the first variant of the Univalve and it still seems to be better than a tap even when considering numerous failed pulls through the day. It usually when trying to switch it on rather than switching it off where the issue occurs.

 I still have an Aquadapter on the other pole and still prefer the pull action of that unit. Its on an SLX22. My Univalve is on the other SLX22 and I hardly notice that added weight increase of the AD in normal day to day cleaning tbh.

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Title: Re: Univalve or ring sizes
Post by: george renwick on May 11, 2017, 09:59:07 pm
I phoned them up at exceed and was told to send it back and he would fix it for me  ;D ;D

george , were you in the REME ,  in 1984?

whats the reme   ???
Title: Re: Univalve or ring sizes
Post by: dazmond on May 11, 2017, 10:09:26 pm
to be honest I'm giving up on the univalve - out of 8 i have only 2 remain functional and with no response from steve I'm now trialling the gardiners gooseneck valve

Darran

really?i have 2 univalves and never had any problems.ive had them since they came out too.brilliant bit of kit IMO.
Title: Re: Univalve or ring sizes
Post by: Simon Trapani on May 11, 2017, 10:15:53 pm
I got five - never had a problem.
Title: Re: Univalve or ring sizes
Post by: Tony dunmall on May 11, 2017, 10:24:16 pm
I've got 8 about 15 months  old now not and issue with anyone of them
Title: Re: Univalve or ring sizes
Post by: M & C Window Cleaning on May 11, 2017, 10:42:11 pm
to be honest I'm giving up on the univalve - out of 8 i have only 2 remain functional and with no response from steve I'm now trialling the gardiners gooseneck valve

Darran
Its the need for regular servicing that concerns me with the Gardiner's goose-neck valve. Its just a miniature version of Peter Fogwill's Aquatap.
I have the first variant of the Univalve and it still seems to be better than a tap even when considering numerous failed pulls through the day. It usually when trying to switch it on rather than switching it off where the issue occurs.

 I still have an Aquadapter on the other pole and still prefer the pull action of that unit. Its on an SLX22. My Univalve is on the other SLX22 and I hardly notice that added weight increase of the AD in normal day to day cleaning tbh.

.

I find I have no problem with the Univalve  at the 60 and 70 psi that my two pumps run at. However, I tried one with a 115psi pump and it was impossible to turn on due to the pressure in the system. So maybe the 100psi pumps are pushing them close to the threshold at which they become unreliable and that's why you are getting the occasional problem turning them on.
I'm not too keen on the Gooseneck valve at the moment as they require lateral pressure on the pole in order to operate at height which I feel puts added stress on the pole. I've already broken one pole trying to turn one on that got stuck. Maybe if Gardiner's refine the design I might give it another shot. At the moment though with my setup the Univalve has my thumbs up.
Title: Re: Univalve or ring sizes
Post by: Spruce on May 12, 2017, 07:49:00 am
to be honest I'm giving up on the univalve - out of 8 i have only 2 remain functional and with no response from steve I'm now trialling the gardiners gooseneck valve

Darran
Its the need for regular servicing that concerns me with the Gardiner's goose-neck valve. Its just a miniature version of Peter Fogwill's Aquatap.
I have the first variant of the Univalve and it still seems to be better than a tap even when considering numerous failed pulls through the day. It usually when trying to switch it on rather than switching it off where the issue occurs.

 I still have an Aquadapter on the other pole and still prefer the pull action of that unit. Its on an SLX22. My Univalve is on the other SLX22 and I hardly notice that added weight increase of the AD in normal day to day cleaning tbh.

.

I find I have no problem with the Univalve  at the 60 and 70 psi that my two pumps run at. However, I tried one with a 115psi pump and it was impossible to turn on due to the pressure in the system. So maybe the 100psi pumps are pushing them close to the threshold at which they become unreliable and that's why you are getting the occasional problem turning them on.
I'm not too keen on the Gooseneck valve at the moment as they require lateral pressure on the pole in order to operate at height which I feel puts added stress on the pole. I've already broken one pole trying to turn one on that got stuck. Maybe if Gardiner's refine the design I might give it another shot. At the moment though with my setup the Univalve has my thumbs up.

Actually I think the time has come to reduce the water pressure a couple of 'notches'.

The water temperature in the tank is much warmer and we are using more water because the water viscosity has changed. The Exceed hose has also become a little stretchy which we don't find in the cold months. The van is blue so it gets quite warm inside with the heat of the sun and the rear doors closed. The temperature gauge inside the cab was reading 31 degrees c yesterday at lunch time.
I can't believe how flexible the hose is. It was a pleasure to work with yesterday.
Title: Re: Univalve or ring sizes
Post by: M & C Window Cleaning on May 12, 2017, 08:33:36 am
I'm using Gardiner's green PU hose but it feels more like pvc hose at the moment.
Title: Re: Univalve or ring sizes
Post by: k.diver on May 12, 2017, 02:11:53 pm
I phoned them up at exceed and was told to send it back and he would fix it for me  ;D ;D

george , were you in the REME ,  in 1984?

whats the reme   ???
royal electrical and mechanical engineers

 george renwick was in my platoon.     last i heard of george after he left the Army he was living in a squat in london. 
Title: Re: Univalve or ring sizes
Post by: george renwick on May 13, 2017, 08:25:28 pm
I phoned them up at exceed and was told to send it back and he would fix it for me  ;D ;D

george , were you in the REME ,  in 1984?
No sorry mate would only off been twelve then  :)

whats the reme   ???
royal electrical and mechanical engineers

 george renwick was in my platoon.     last i heard of george after he left the Army he was living in a squat in london.