Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Crystal-clear on April 20, 2017, 06:44:58 pm
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That TV commercial is on showing even more regularly ! Just saw it again
Come on how much is all the air time costing rumars of £10k per is what I'm told 💰
Hope it pays off 👍🏻
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You watch too much tv ;D.
I don't think il ever see it even though I'm probably in the targeted area. Most of the stuff i watch is on Netflix and Amazon. Anything on TV i tend to record so i can skip the ads.
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The secret to advertising is repetition, repetition, repetition!
Sounds like Lee has it right. Good luck to him.
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Waste of money. I chuck £3/400 a month at google, sod paying whatever thats going to cost.
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How do you know its a waste of money? It could be an amazing ROI.
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And we delivered 100k leaflets this week. another 100k next week, the a tv campaign on sky in june.
yes im taking over.
no i wont say what it cost......... a lot
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How do you know its a waste of money? It could be an amazing ROI.
I don’t know what the ROI is - my guy feeling is it’s not going to be the best.
But its a waste if its not spent scuba-diving.
If I were to spend this kind of budget I’d invest in hardware for the business and up the game focusing specifically on big time commercial, the likes that Hugh Seer and Charlie Price undertake.
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How do you know its a waste of money? It could be an amazing ROI.
I don’t know what the ROI is.
But its a waste if its not spent scuba-diving.
If I were to spend this kind of budget I’d invest in hardware for the business and up the game focusing specifically on big time commercial, the likes that Hugh Seer and Charlie Price undertake.
I did invest a lot in equipment ect.
Why go after big time commercial? we get just as much money from domestic and there is no big company doing it. We are trying to be that company. We do do commercial by the way.
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Why go after big time commercial?
Personal taste Lee. Domestics do my nut.
Wanna get established in Basingstoke? Could be the start of your mid-southern hub. A stepping-stone into the South Midlands and Bristol. Ive got 8K of domestic work to offload ;)
Newbury, Andover, Oxford, Reading, Bournemouth, Swindon, Bristol, Cardiff, Bath, Southampton. All heaving with lucrative domestic clients gagging for a London based window washer.
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Domestics dont need to do my nut because I never see or speak to them. I am only interested in the money per head per day.
I have no plans to expand our area any further or to set up another base. I only ever wanted a 10ish van business in the south east.
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Why go after big time commercial?
Personal taste Lee. Domestics do my nut.
Wanna get established in Basingstoke? Could be the start of your mid-southern hub. A stepping-stone into the South Midlands and Bristol. Ive got 8K of domestic work to offload ;)
Newbury, Andover, Oxford, Reading, Bournemouth, Swindon, Bristol, Cardiff, Bath, Southampton. All heaving with lucrative domestic clients gagging for a London based window washer.
Are you selling the good stuff yet? ;D
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Poor Lee Pryor seemingly can't open his mouth without people having ago and trying to belittle him. The guys done well get over it for God's sake. I never thought you could make a scaleable business doing mostly domestic Windows but I was wrong. Can't knock the bloke can you and alot of people on here could do well to listen to his advice instead of mocking it. Hats off from me Mr Pryor and keep good work up ignore the jealous haters !!
R
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And we delivered 100k leaflets this week. another 100k next week, the a tv campaign on sky in june.
yes im taking over.
no i wont say what it cost......... a lot
Fair enough lee!the price Would purely just fascinate us it's surely in a good 5 figures anyway..
We see you're offering and focusing on Regualr only sign up via gocardless and offering those prices you're Surely having people sign up and cancel the mandate to pull a one off or the 2 off cancelations when they ain't in to open gate and front gets done as they can't text back and won't allow the front ... the usual window cleaner problems my only concern would be the scale of the mess around you're opening yourself to by not charging more for first cleans say at least 50% more then down to normal could detour it . But it seems you're looking at purely the money and since you are no longer cleaning you don't get mad with the customers who say one thing then do the other 👍🏻
I guess on the large scale of things out of 100 sign ups the ratio is good :)
Its all impressive stuff you've done what a lot of us have always dreamed !
I was going to say leave some work for us ;)but we should be fine will always be those customers that need micro management who want to be in each time want the full house each time and who doesn't want direct debit basically not the most profitable customers but the ones who keep us normal folk going Hopefully you don't get all the good ones ! 😀😀
Oh also sky as well omg !!! Perhaps Don't go like the clappers mate history suggests it's a bad idea just look what happened to the Romans
You don't want your mark Anthony
Deciding your making too much money lol
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Fair play to Lee Pryor. You can't knock someone for doing well and then expanding their business.
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Why go after big time commercial?
Personal taste Lee. Domestics do my nut.
Wanna get established in Basingstoke? Could be the start of your mid-southern hub. A stepping-stone into the South Midlands and Bristol. Ive got 8K of domestic work to offload ;)
Newbury, Andover, Oxford, Reading, Bournemouth, Swindon, Bristol, Cardiff, Bath, Southampton. All heaving with lucrative domestic clients gagging for a London based window washer.
Are you selling the good stuff yet? ;D
I was trying to flog your round to Lee without you realising.
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Why go after big time commercial?
Personal taste Lee. Domestics do my nut.
Wanna get established in Basingstoke? Could be the start of your mid-southern hub. A stepping-stone into the South Midlands and Bristol. Ive got 8K of domestic work to offload ;)
Newbury, Andover, Oxford, Reading, Bournemouth, Swindon, Bristol, Cardiff, Bath, Southampton. All heaving with lucrative domestic clients gagging for a London based window washer.
Are you selling the good stuff yet? ;D
I was trying to flog your round to Lee without you realising.
Maybe he's already here. I lost a 3 bed semi with conservatory that I charged £23 8 weekly to someone who's going to do it for £20 including the roof! :o
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Domestics dont need to do my nut because I never see or speak to them. I am only interested in the money per head per day.
LOL
Best thought for going bigger, love it
There are a couple other large companies in south east,
Groves window cleaning but I think his commercial as well, possibly mostly I don't know and another company, carter and faraday but I'm guessing they do other things as well
If I was 20 years younger I would be as inclined with knowledge I have now to push to be as big as possible,
10 vans is a good size to make it self sufficient with good payment plan to all staff
I'd be happy with 4 vans on the road don't have such a need for that much income now, whether that would be enough for me to walk away and be behind the scene not sure but eldest daughter is involved in business now, so she can start to learn how to run things and then take over
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Domestics dont need to do my nut because I never see or speak to them. I am only interested in the money per head per day.
LOL
Best thought for going bigger, love it
There are a couple other large companies in south east,
Groves window cleaning but I think his commercial as well, possibly mostly I don't know and another company, carter and faraday but I'm guessing they do other things as well
If I was 20 years younger I would be as inclined with knowledge I have now to push to be as big as possible,
10 vans is a good size to make it self sufficient with good payment plan to all staff
I'd be happy with 4 vans on the road don't have such a need for that much income now, whether that would be enough for me to walk away and be behind the scene not sure but eldest daughter is involved in business now, so she can start to learn how to run things and then take over
I used to work for Groves , he is commercial only, he earns well out of it, but it is a headache running commercial, as you know Tony
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The other companies mentioned there are all commercial only. The bigger residential are franchises.
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Commercial work is worthless, seen so many big guys fall cos of ruthless under cutting and rubbish cleaning. Domestic work is worth ten times as much imho .
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Why go after big time commercial?
Oi, leave Swindon out of it, I've got it covered. ;D
Personal taste Lee. Domestics do my nut.
Wanna get established in Basingstoke? Could be the start of your mid-southern hub. A stepping-stone into the South Midlands and Bristol. Ive got 8K of domestic work to offload ;)
Newbury, Andover, Oxford, Reading, Bournemouth, Swindon, Bristol, Cardiff, Bath, Southampton. All heaving with lucrative domestic clients gagging for a London based window washer.
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Commercial work is worthless, seen so many big guys fall cos of ruthless under cutting and rubbish cleaning. Domestic work is worth ten times as much imho .
Agreed, we do so much commercial around london direct and via subcontracting, i also resub loads out too, its all about the undercut, so much work gets lost to being undercut but can win lots of work by undercutting the competition yourself! Can still get a top day rate, some weeks we hit more doing office and blocks than doing a full month of domestic and believe me my domestic work is perfectly priced but you can always get burnt and are never appretiated at all as they are always looking for the next guy to save them 5-10 percent.
I too am slowly at the mo building a massive domestic business up, lucky no need for big TV advertising or leaflet drops as im out canvassing as a team leader with 3 others doing 4-5 eves a week 5.30-7.30 building up something totally different that coins it in as much as windows but also doubling it up gaining domestic customers too when im local which i see as a lovely little perk of the job :-) The canvassing im doing requires us to bingo card everything so everyone gets hit and my god its bringing in some close decent work.
Very soon ill be subbing everything Commercial without chasing or taking on anymore and give another go at employing on domestic with everything direct debit/go cardless which i think is the BIG game changer that will make it work without the need to be chasing debts all the time feeling down and low finding wages and all other costs before any profit with that feeling always in my head of "ill be better off as a 1 man business with next to no overheads or stress".
I think Lee has nailed it, with everyone on standing order/go cardless all he needs to do is manage the leaflet/canvassing and all the other customer generating ways he has, and the business simply builds itself! All new vans and equipment so no real worry of anything going wrong and losing profit, all he needs is good reliable staff which you get by showing respect and not taking the p which a decent day/hourly rate with a shinny new van that can be used for average personal use helps big time, all he needs to do is watch his money come in and make sure his guys are all working as they should via tracker. I find it hard to convince existing customers to go cardless sadly but I'm finding all new ones if told at the start after the first clean are pretty easy.
So far on paper it looks pretty easy to smash it up on the domestic side and do well out of it! I did it before and did ok apart from always having to chase debt day after day which got me so stressed out that i decided to sell and go commercial and retail which has been good but im ready to go again, without the headaches of chasing debt so much its a big game changer that i believe will work much better this time.
Im going to hit London by storm...Watch this space ;)
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surely the leaflets are more cost effective
or does 1 ad [at say £10000 quid) bring in 100 customers? the mind boggles
imagine sayin to the lads on monday morning, "iv ran it again chums // you havnt? / i have and on this slip of paper here youve an extra 100 to slot in, im orf back to the office cheerio "
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Commercial work is worthless, seen so many big guys fall cos of ruthless under cutting and rubbish cleaning. Domestic work is worth ten times as much imho .
Agreed, we do so much commercial around london direct and via subcontracting, i also resub loads out too, its all about the undercut, so much work gets lost to being undercut but can win lots of work by undercutting the competition yourself! Can still get a top day rate, some weeks we hit more doing office and blocks than doing a full month of domestic and believe me my domestic work is perfectly priced but you can always get burnt and are never appretiated at all as they are always looking for the next guy to save them 5-10 percent.
I too am slowly at the mo building a massive domestic business up, lucky no need for big TV advertising or leaflet drops as im out canvassing as a team leader with 3 others doing 4-5 eves a week 5.30-7.30 building up something totally different that coins it in as much as windows but also doubling it up gaining domestic customers too when im local which i see as a lovely little perk of the job :-) The canvassing im doing requires us to bingo card everything so everyone gets hit and my god its bringing in some close decent work.
Very soon ill be subbing everything Commercial without chasing or taking on anymore and give another go at employing on domestic with everything direct debit/go cardless which i think is the BIG game changer that will make it work without the need to be chasing debts all the time feeling down and low finding wages and all other costs before any profit with that feeling always in my head of "ill be better off as a 1 man business with next to no overheads or stress".
I think Lee has nailed it, with everyone on standing order/go cardless all he needs to do is manage the leaflet/canvassing and all the other customer generating ways he has, and the business simply builds itself! All new vans and equipment so no real worry of anything going wrong and losing profit, all he needs is good reliable staff which you get by showing respect and not taking the p which a decent day/hourly rate with a shinny new van that can be used for average personal use helps big time, all he needs to do is watch his money come in and make sure his guys are all working as they should via tracker. I find it hard to convince existing customers to go cardless sadly but I'm finding all new ones if told at the start after the first clean are pretty easy.
So far on paper it looks pretty easy to smash it up on the domestic side and do well out of it! I did it before and did ok apart from always having to chase debt day after day which got me so stressed out that i decided to sell and go commercial and retail which has been good but im ready to go again, without the headaches of chasing debt so much its a big game changer that i believe will work much better this time.
Im going to hit London by storm...Watch this space ;)
Good post mick
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surely the leaflets are more cost effective
or does 1 ad [at say £10000 quid) bring in 100 customers? the mind boggles
imagine sayin to the lads on monday morning, "iv ran it again chums // you havnt? / i have and on this slip of paper here youve an extra 100 to slot in, im orf back to the office cheerio "
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I'm steadily developing a nice residential business up north, we don't touch commercial unless they come to us. Good work Lee and Mick, it's amazing what's achievable with goals, plans and action. Keep up the good work!
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Poor Lee Pryor seemingly can't open his mouth without people having ago and trying to belittle him. The guys done well get over it for God's sake. I never thought you could make a scaleable business doing mostly domestic Windows but I was wrong. Can't knock the bloke can you and alot of people on here could do well to listen to his advice instead of mocking it. Hats off from me Mr Pryor and keep good work up ignore the jealous haters !!
R
here here well said I would love to meet up with him for a chat as we cant seem to go from 3 vans full time and I think we stuck in the rut of being happy , I like his push forward like the other big guy in the south east mr t.l.c. with 20 vans out daily well done them I say
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Commercial work is worthless, seen so many big guys fall cos of ruthless under cutting and rubbish cleaning. Domestic work is worth ten times as much imho .
Agreed, we do so much commercial around london direct and via subcontracting, i also resub loads out too, its all about the undercut, so much work gets lost to being undercut but can win lots of work by undercutting the competition yourself! Can still get a top day rate, some weeks we hit more doing office and blocks than doing a full month of domestic and believe me my domestic work is perfectly priced but you can always get burnt and are never appretiated at all as they are always looking for the next guy to save them 5-10 percent.
I too am slowly at the mo building a massive domestic business up, lucky no need for big TV advertising or leaflet drops as im out canvassing as a team leader with 3 others doing 4-5 eves a week 5.30-7.30 building up something totally different that coins it in as much as windows but also doubling it up gaining domestic customers too when im local which i see as a lovely little perk of the job :-) The canvassing im doing requires us to bingo card everything so everyone gets hit and my god its bringing in some close decent work.
Very soon ill be subbing everything Commercial without chasing or taking on anymore and give another go at employing on domestic with everything direct debit/go cardless which i think is the BIG game changer that will make it work without the need to be chasing debts all the time feeling down and low finding wages and all other costs before any profit with that feeling always in my head of "ill be better off as a 1 man business with next to no overheads or stress".
I think Lee has nailed it, with everyone on standing order/go cardless all he needs to do is manage the leaflet/canvassing and all the other customer generating ways he has, and the business simply builds itself! All new vans and equipment so no real worry of anything going wrong and losing profit, all he needs is good reliable staff which you get by showing respect and not taking the p which a decent day/hourly rate with a shinny new van that can be used for average personal use helps big time, all he needs to do is watch his money come in and make sure his guys are all working as they should via tracker. I find it hard to convince existing customers to go cardless sadly but I'm finding all new ones if told at the start after the first clean are pretty easy.
So far on paper it looks pretty easy to smash it up on the domestic side and do well out of it! I did it before and did ok apart from always having to chase debt day after day which got me so stressed out that i decided to sell and go commercial and retail which has been good but im ready to go again, without the headaches of chasing debt so much its a big game changer that i believe will work much better this time.
Im going to hit London by storm...Watch this space ;)
Bang on the money Mick, there is good money to be made with commercial, One van, 1000 litre tanks, 2 men crews turn over decent day rate, I currently operate 33% commercial, this seems to work for us,
I no longer chase commercial work as you can loose it as quick as you pick them up
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Commercial work is worthless, seen so many big guys fall cos of ruthless under cutting and rubbish cleaning. Domestic work is worth ten times as much imho .
Agreed, we do so much commercial around london direct and via subcontracting, i also resub loads out too, its all about the undercut, so much work gets lost to being undercut but can win lots of work by undercutting the competition yourself! Can still get a top day rate, some weeks we hit more doing office and blocks than doing a full month of domestic and believe me my domestic work is perfectly priced but you can always get burnt and are never appretiated at all as they are always looking for the next guy to save them 5-10 percent.
I too am slowly at the mo building a massive domestic business up, lucky no need for big TV advertising or leaflet drops as im out canvassing as a team leader with 3 others doing 4-5 eves a week 5.30-7.30 building up something totally different that coins it in as much as windows but also doubling it up gaining domestic customers too when im local which i see as a lovely little perk of the job :-) The canvassing im doing requires us to bingo card everything so everyone gets hit and my god its bringing in some close decent work.
Very soon ill be subbing everything Commercial without chasing or taking on anymore and give another go at employing on domestic with everything direct debit/go cardless which i think is the BIG game changer that will make it work without the need to be chasing debts all the time feeling down and low finding wages and all other costs before any profit with that feeling always in my head of "ill be better off as a 1 man business with next to no overheads or stress".
I think Lee has nailed it, with everyone on standing order/go cardless all he needs to do is manage the leaflet/canvassing and all the other customer generating ways he has, and the business simply builds itself! All new vans and equipment so no real worry of anything going wrong and losing profit, all he needs is good reliable staff which you get by showing respect and not taking the p which a decent day/hourly rate with a shinny new van that can be used for average personal use helps big time, all he needs to do is watch his money come in and make sure his guys are all working as they should via tracker. I find it hard to convince existing customers to go cardless sadly but I'm finding all new ones if told at the start after the first clean are pretty easy.
So far on paper it looks pretty easy to smash it up on the domestic side and do well out of it! I did it before and did ok apart from always having to chase debt day after day which got me so stressed out that i decided to sell and go commercial and retail which has been good but im ready to go again, without the headaches of chasing debt so much its a big game changer that i believe will work much better this time.
Im going to hit London by storm...Watch this space ;)
Come up north and show me the money !
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Commercial work is worthless, seen so many big guys fall cos of ruthless under cutting and rubbish cleaning. Domestic work is worth ten times as much imho .
Agreed, we do so much commercial around london direct and via subcontracting, i also resub loads out too, its all about the undercut, so much work gets lost to being undercut but can win lots of work by undercutting the competition yourself! Can still get a top day rate, some weeks we hit more doing office and blocks than doing a full month of domestic and believe me my domestic work is perfectly priced but you can always get burnt and are never appretiated at all as they are always looking for the next guy to save them 5-10 percent.
I too am slowly at the mo building a massive domestic business up, lucky no need for big TV advertising or leaflet drops as im out canvassing as a team leader with 3 others doing 4-5 eves a week 5.30-7.30 building up something totally different that coins it in as much as windows but also doubling it up gaining domestic customers too when im local which i see as a lovely little perk of the job :-) The canvassing im doing requires us to bingo card everything so everyone gets hit and my god its bringing in some close decent work.
Very soon ill be subbing everything Commercial without chasing or taking on anymore and give another go at employing on domestic with everything direct debit/go cardless which i think is the BIG game changer that will make it work without the need to be chasing debts all the time feeling down and low finding wages and all other costs before any profit with that feeling always in my head of "ill be better off as a 1 man business with next to no overheads or stress".
I think Lee has nailed it, with everyone on standing order/go cardless all he needs to do is manage the leaflet/canvassing and all the other customer generating ways he has, and the business simply builds itself! All new vans and equipment so no real worry of anything going wrong and losing profit, all he needs is good reliable staff which you get by showing respect and not taking the p which a decent day/hourly rate with a shinny new van that can be used for average personal use helps big time, all he needs to do is watch his money come in and make sure his guys are all working as they should via tracker. I find it hard to convince existing customers to go cardless sadly but I'm finding all new ones if told at the start after the first clean are pretty easy.
So far on paper it looks pretty easy to smash it up on the domestic side and do well out of it! I did it before and did ok apart from always having to chase debt day after day which got me so stressed out that i decided to sell and go commercial and retail which has been good but im ready to go again, without the headaches of chasing debt so much its a big game changer that i believe will work much better this time.
Im going to hit London by storm...Watch this space ;)
Good post mick
I admire you're drive and enthusiasm, I lost it a few years ago. You will be successful in whatever you do, but remember to most of all enjoy it and be happy. When that stops you have to move on. Al the best Lee.
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Domestics dont need to do my nut because I never see or speak to them. I am only interested in the money per head per day.
I have no plans to expand our area any further or to set up another base. I only ever wanted a 10ish van business in the south east.
The big shark has not taken the Bate/man but decided to taken his chances by doing a mass drop in our patch. It`s a difficult shot dropping so many leaflets and find out they will not give the return he will hope for. You will need to make Prior arrangement in this area. Matt, Lee does not buy rounds he prefers to poach them.
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Dropping leaflets = poaching? Interesting.
Vin
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Domestics dont need to do my nut because I never see or speak to them. I am only interested in the money per head per day.
I have no plans to expand our area any further or to set up another base. I only ever wanted a 10ish van business in the south east.
The big shark has not taken the Bate/man but decided to taken his chances by doing a mass drop in our patch. It`s a difficult shot dropping so many leaflets and find out they will not give the return he will hope for. You will need to make Prior arrangement in this area. Matt, Lee does not buy rounds he prefers to poach them.
That is possibly the most idiotic post I have read in relation to me.
You dont have a "patch" neither do I. I can decide where we want to work wether you like it or not.
Dropping leaflets with our prices in and letting the customer decide who they use is about as far from poaching as it gets.
If I drove round that area knoching on doors asking people if they use you and undercutting your price that would be poaching!
Believe me the return we are getting is just fine thanks.
Bottom line is you feel threatend................GOOD!
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This post might idiotic to you, but using your vast financial muscle to flood an area is a business challenge to small business. It amazes me how"the big boy" don`t like it when the small cleaners fight back. Who gave you the moral high ground to tell me what is idiotic. All you do on here is brag how big you are and have all the wanabee marvel at your image and try to bask in your shadow as if it might dust off on them. Well, you don`t impress me one bit. You ego exceeds your image.
I am sure you will come back with something to try and put me down, but it will not work. I am thick skinned
and know how to deal with big deals like you. I have read your posts for many years and am sick every time I read about the "great I am" and what car I drive. You are nothing but self-indulgent. There is so much we small cleaner can do to challenge your lavish advertising. You are no threat to me . Threat no! challenge yes.!
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Interesting thread. I seem to remember Lee had to sell his home and live with mum and dad to fund the business. I'd love to see the figures. Personally I'd prefer to keep my home and go without the stress.
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Interesting thread. I seem to remember Lee had to sell his home and live with mum and dad to fund the business. I'd love to see the figures. Personally I'd prefer to keep my home and go without the stress.
Me too. But the winners in life are the ones who risk it all.
Nothing at all wrong with living a stress free happy life. That's what I want.
That's why success is a double edge sword.
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This post might idiotic to you, but using your vast financial muscle to flood an area is a business challenge to small business. It amazes me how"the big boy" don`t like it when the small cleaners fight back. Who gave you the moral high ground to tell me what is idiotic. All you do on here is brag how big you are and have all the wanabee marvel at your image and try to bask in your shadow as if it might dust off on them. Well, you don`t impress me one bit. You ego exceeds your image.
I am sure you will come back with something to try and put me down, but it will not work. I am thick skinned
and know how to deal with big deals like you. I have read your posts for many years and am sick every time I read about the "great I am" and what car I drive. You are nothing but self-indulgent. There is so much we small cleaner can do to challenge your lavish advertising. You are no threat to me . Threat no! challenge yes.!
Blah blah big small, big small.
I started my business from nothing with a bucket and ladder for less than £200 I didn't even know what a reach system was and didn't have a forum to teach me everything!
My point is you or anyone could have done the things I have done. I had no help, no loans from a bank, no rich family, nothing apart from the drive to grow my business. I have worked damn hard for a very long time.
Why should us cleaning in areas you do be a challenge? Don't you have your established round already? If so whats your problem? Worried your customers might dump you and come to us? If that's true then that's your fault not mine.
We can work where we want. So can you. If I want a business with 100 vans that's up to me and doesn't make me a bad person! Just as you or anyone else wanting a stress free life as a single operator doesn't make you wrong or bad.
I really think you should just man up and worry more about yourself rather than what I am doing.
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You are quite right you can work where you like. What we don`t need is your bragging on here how amazing you are.Even your video has to show your car not once but twice, now if that`s not bragging. I am saying what so many think on here but too polite to say. Mr big deal Brag ass.
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If you want to be successful, find someone who has achieved the results you want and copy what they do and you'll achieve the same results
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Thats not necessarily true.
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Thats not necessarily true.
Positive thinking slacky , it's amazing what happens to you when you change the way you think.
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There’s also realistic thinking.
I view realistic as positive by the way.
Some peoples positive to others is ‘deluded’.
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Your right there ;D
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Im proud as punch of my established work and how its expanding and into external cleaning. I dont hold back from saying what i do for a living. Im able to support my family and allow my wive to home school our kids and sadly pay my ex maintenance etc. I work dam hard and dont mind saying so and speak alot about professional image etc etc. No doubt people get sick of my comments and ues sometimes i brag about how easy it is, because it is if you have the drive for it. So, ive not been a fan of lees over the time, but why not brag a bit, hes done what hes set out to do. I dont wish to follow any of it, as im happy as i am, but if i was lee or if any of were Lee.......be honest....you would be proud as punch as well and if giving a little inspiration to ones who might want the same dream is bragging then it beats moaning
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I spent 2 days at Purple Rhino's base on Monday and Tuesday... Very impressive!
They are what I call a successful company!
Until Pryor's are trading in profit and not in the red they are not successful. I hope they become successful because Lee deserves it with all the work he's put into his business.
Andy
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We all work hard at making the best of your business. I just don`t think one needs to persistently over many years come on here and tell how great you are and expect adulation. Your so vain is not my favourite song.
There is a very narrow line between confidence and show off.
Confident: is thinking you're great.
Show off; expecting others to believe you are.
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I spent 2 days at Purple Rhino's base on Monday and Tuesday... Very impressive!
They are what I call a successful company!
Until Pryor's are trading in profit and not in the red they are not successful. I hope they become successful because Lee deserves it with all the work he's put into his business.
Andy
i heard that rhinos lads hate his guts
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I spent 2 days at Purple Rhino's base on Monday and Tuesday... Very impressive!
They are what I call a successful company!
Until Pryor's are trading in profit and not in the red they are not successful. I hope they become successful because Lee deserves it with all the work he's put into his business.
Andy
i heard that rhinos lads hate his guts
Don't most people hate their boss?
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i dunno.fair point
but id hope my lads dont hate me. if i knew they did itd bother me
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IMO Lee, if I was you I would do a weekly update just to cheer some up on here. 😀
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I think it is amazing what Lee is doing and especially so coming on here and sharing his successes with everyone.
I think most of us here want to hear about successful window cleaners, as well as the one man bands
I for one am very interested, also interested to see what car he drives, whether it is bragging or not, I think he should be proud of his successes, he has earned it.
It is a shame that people have to hide behind their success, in case of getting bashed by the knockers.
Keep going Lee and Good Luck
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He IS the real deal which is far more than can be said about most of the wannabe braggarts on here! Good luck to him.
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I spent 2 days at Purple Rhino's base on Monday and Tuesday... Very impressive!
They are what I call a successful company!
Until Pryor's are trading in profit and not in the red they are not successful. I hope they become successful because Lee deserves it with all the work he's put into his business.
Andy
so what do you think about most of the top football clubs in the world ........in in debt but winning trophies.....successful or not !!!!!
just a thought ;)
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I spent 2 days at Purple Rhino's base on Monday and Tuesday... Very impressive!
They are what I call a successful company!
Until Pryor's are trading in profit and not in the red they are not successful. I hope they become successful because Lee deserves it with all the work he's put into his business.
Andy
so what do you think about most of the top football clubs in the world ........in in debt but winning trophies.....successful or not !!!!!
just a thought ;)
Bristol City - In debt and winning nothing. ;D
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Nearly all businesses have debt they say if you owe the bank 60k it's your problem if you owe them 600 it's there's,the banks are so reluctant to pull the plug due to big loses. Any company running 10-11 vans with 10-20 staff will have huge debt.
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I spent 2 days at Purple Rhino's base on Monday and Tuesday... Very impressive!
They are what I call a successful company!
Until Pryor's are trading in profit and not in the red they are not successful. I hope they become successful because Lee deserves it with all the work he's put into his business.
Andy
so what do you think about most of the top football clubs in the world ........in in debt but winning trophies.....successful or not !!!!!
just a thought ;)
Bristol City - In debt and winning nothing. ;D
better not say anything about the crap you support ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ,
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Nearly all businesses have debt they say if you owe the bank 60k it's your problem if you owe them 600 it's there's,the banks are so reluctant to pull the plug due to big loses. Any company running 10-11 vans with 10-20 staff will have huge debt.
That wasn't Iconic's point though. You can have debt and trade profitably. I'm sure Lee's plan is spot on, but the measure of his success will be that in 2020 he is in profit.
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It's intetsteing wHat car you drive
When I first started high street window cleaning, I meet this cleaner called mark he did internal cleaning of pizza express and a lot of chains he moved onto to other cleaning aspects car show rooms
He used to clean himself for years out of a Porsche he used a Ferrari and loads other high end cars. Always made me smile when he got out his mop and bucket from his car
He just was into big and loved fast cars
I always wondered where he ended up
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I spent 2 days at Purple Rhino's base on Monday and Tuesday... Very impressive!
They are what I call a successful company!
Until Pryor's are trading in profit and not in the red they are not successful. I hope they become successful because Lee deserves it with all the work he's put into his business.
Andy
whats this all about. casting aspertions but you know NOWT
youre likely up to your own neck in debt not made a cent in profit in a decade
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Chaps
You have to remember that success is a broad statement.
To some success is wealth creation.
To others success is measured by hitting certain goals.
Lee has been successful in the sense that what he has set out to achieve he has mobilised and set things in motion to do it.
I think it's wonderful to see a case study of someone who is going all out to move his business forward. And by him sharing what he is doing we have the opportunity to see for ourselves what works and what doesn't for our own goals and aspirations.
Please give the guy a break.
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I spent 2 days at Purple Rhino's base on Monday and Tuesday... Very impressive!
They are what I call a successful company!
Until Pryor's are trading in profit and not in the red they are not successful. I hope they become successful because Lee deserves it with all the work he's put into his business.
Andy
whats this all about. casting aspertions but you know NOWT
youre likely up to your own neck in debt not made a cent in profit in a decade
How is that casting aspersions?
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I was one of those who took the micky with the 50" screens but I am humble enough (at this stage) to admit that my view of it all was wrong. I am impressed with what he has achieved so far- it's not for me personally but it clearly is for him and he seems well on his way to what he set out to achieve. He seems to be one of a very few who can genuinely demonstrate that he is who he is! Good luck to him.
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I spent 2 days at Purple Rhino's base on Monday and Tuesday... Very impressive!
They are what I call a successful company!
Until Pryor's are trading in profit and not in the red they are not successful. I hope they become successful because Lee deserves it with all the work he's put into his business.
Andy
whats this all about. casting aspertions but you know NOWT
youre likely up to your own neck in debt not made a cent in profit in a decade
Lol.
;)
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I was one of those who took the micky with the 50" screens but I am humble enough (at this stage) to admit that my view of it all was wrong. I am impressed with what he has achieved so far- it's not for me personally but it clearly is for him and he seems well on his way to what he set out to achieve. He seems to be one of a very few who can genuinely demonstrate that he is who he is! Good luck to him.
Can you demonstrate who you are? I reckon you are one of the very few on here who doesn't demonstrate that you are who you are to use your terms. You generally just snipe anonymously from the sidelines and belittle people's ambitions.
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I was one of those who took the micky with the 50" screens but I am humble enough (at this stage) to admit that my view of it all was wrong. I am impressed with what he has achieved so far- it's not for me personally but it clearly is for him and he seems well on his way to what he set out to achieve. He seems to be one of a very few who can genuinely demonstrate that he is who he is! Good luck to him.
Can you demonstrate who you are? I reckon you are one of the very few on here who doesn't demonstrate that you are who you are to use your terms. You generally just snipe anonymously from the sidelines and belittle people's ambitions.
I have zero desire to demonstrate anything on any internet forum nor endure to impress anyone via the same arena! There is a difference between ambition and an unrelenting campaign to present yourself as something which you are not!
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I spent 2 days at Purple Rhino's base on Monday and Tuesday... Very impressive!
They are what I call a successful company!
Until Pryor's are trading in profit and not in the red they are not successful. I hope they become successful because Lee deserves it with all the work he's put into his business.
Andy
i heard that rhinos lads hate his guts
Aye, you have to be thick skinned.
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I was one of those who took the micky with the 50" screens but I am humble enough (at this stage) to admit that my view of it all was wrong. I am impressed with what he has achieved so far- it's not for me personally but it clearly is for him and he seems well on his way to what he set out to achieve. He seems to be one of a very few who can genuinely demonstrate that he is who he is! Good luck to him.
Can you demonstrate who you are? I reckon you are one of the very few on here who doesn't demonstrate that you are who you are to use your terms. You generally just snipe anonymously from the sidelines and belittle people's ambitions.
I have zero desire to demonstrate anything on any internet forum nor endure to impress anyone via the same arena! There is a difference between ambition and an unrelenting campaign to present yourself as something which you are not!
In your case it's perfectly clear what you are.
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I was one of those who took the micky with the 50" screens but I am humble enough (at this stage) to admit that my view of it all was wrong. I am impressed with what he has achieved so far- it's not for me personally but it clearly is for him and he seems well on his way to what he set out to achieve. He seems to be one of a very few who can genuinely demonstrate that he is who he is! Good luck to him.
Can you demonstrate who you are? I reckon you are one of the very few on here who doesn't demonstrate that you are who you are to use your terms. You generally just snipe anonymously from the sidelines and belittle people's ambitions.
I have zero desire to demonstrate anything on any internet forum nor endure to impress anyone via the same arena! There is a difference between ambition and an unrelenting campaign to present yourself as something which you are not!
In your case it's perfectly clear what you are.
And you also! ;)
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I was one of those who took the micky with the 50" screens but I am humble enough (at this stage) to admit that my view of it all was wrong. I am impressed with what he has achieved so far- it's not for me personally but it clearly is for him and he seems well on his way to what he set out to achieve. He seems to be one of a very few who can genuinely demonstrate that he is who he is! Good luck to him.
Can you demonstrate who you are? I reckon you are one of the very few on here who doesn't demonstrate that you are who you are to use your terms. You generally just snipe anonymously from the sidelines and belittle people's ambitions.
I have zero desire to demonstrate anything on any internet forum nor endure to impress anyone via the same arena! There is a difference between ambition and an unrelenting campaign to present yourself as something which you are not!
In your case it's perfectly clear what you are.
And you also! ;)
Ah, but people know me on here. I am what I am and don't pretend to be anything I'm not. You are just a nasty little creep who hides behind anonymity.
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I was one of those who took the micky with the 50" screens but I am humble enough (at this stage) to admit that my view of it all was wrong. I am impressed with what he has achieved so far- it's not for me personally but it clearly is for him and he seems well on his way to what he set out to achieve. He seems to be one of a very few who can genuinely demonstrate that he is who he is! Good luck to him.
Can you demonstrate who you are? I reckon you are one of the very few on here who doesn't demonstrate that you are who you are to use your terms. You generally just snipe anonymously from the sidelines and belittle people's ambitions.
I have zero desire to demonstrate anything on any internet forum nor endure to impress anyone via the same arena! There is a difference between ambition and an unrelenting campaign to present yourself as something which you are not!
In your case it's perfectly clear what you are.
And you also! ;)
Ah, but people know me on here. I am what I am and don't pretend to be anything I'm not. You are just a nasty little creep who hides behind anonymity.
Ha harr..... ;D ;D ;D
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He's right. And your response confirms it.
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come on ladies.......give back the lipstick and put your nails away