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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: WISEOWL on April 19, 2017, 11:40:31 pm

Title: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: WISEOWL on April 19, 2017, 11:40:31 pm
I have a customer who wants their solar panels on their 5 bed house cleaning.

I do not have the equipment to assist, but have said that I am willing to ask the window cleaning community if they could be of service.

The house is in Barlborough, North East Derbyshire.

Contact me.
Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: Solar Steve on April 23, 2017, 06:50:58 am
Hi Wiseowl.  We will take it.  Please email the info through to sc@cleansolar.solutions
Sam Cox is the lady who will deal with it.

Thank you.

Steve.
Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: tlwcs on April 23, 2017, 08:33:03 am
I get the impression the op was looking to give it to a local windy.
If it was me and you turned up, with the big I am, working all over the world, yarda, yarda yarda. Then subbed it out for the few pence a small domestic array may worth, it would certainly take the gloss off the good deed in offering the work in the first place.
Tony
Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: Tosh on April 23, 2017, 03:50:09 pm
Hi Wiseowl.  We will take it.  Please email the info through to sc@cleansolar.solutions
Sam Cox is the lady who will deal with it.

Thank you.

Steve.


I’d sell it to you, but wouldn’t give it to you. You’ve never given anything on here or in your professional life - which is all take take take, so you could do one so far as I was concerned.
Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: Susan Dean (1stclean) on April 23, 2017, 04:38:47 pm
Hi Wiseowl.  We will take it.  Please email the info through to sc@cleansolar.solutions
Sam Cox is the lady who will deal with it.

Thank you.

Steve.


I’d sell it to you, but wouldn’t give it to you. You’ve never given anything on here or in your professional life - which is all take take take, so you could do one so far as I was concerned.

the most truthfull post ive seen on here in ages
Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: Splash & dash on April 23, 2017, 05:43:57 pm
See he's still trying to grab as many jobs as possible but has he any subbys to do it that's the question?? Why would people do it for him for £30 when they could do it for themselves for £60 ??? Lot of mugs out there I think
Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: tlwcs on April 23, 2017, 06:28:51 pm
See he's still trying to grab as many jobs as possible but has he any subbys to do it that's the question?? Why would people do it for him for £30 when they could do it for themselves for £60 ??? Lot of mugs out there I think

His line of thought maybe as it's a 5 bedroomed house the owner may have a village shop where he can quote that and sub it out as well lol
Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: martin hulstone on April 23, 2017, 06:34:15 pm
Hi Wiseowl.  We will take it.  Please email the info through to sc@cleansolar.solutions
Sam Cox is the lady who will deal with it.

Thank you.

Steve.
I am still waiting for a reply from you about the alleged electrocution of a window cleaner cleaning solar panels.
Your uk websites states he spent 6 weeks in hospital yet your Australian website states he spent 3 months in hospital.
Is this true or are you lying to make it look like you are better equipped to do the job?
Please enlighten me and let me know the name of this worker(if it did actually occur)
Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: Nick Day on April 23, 2017, 08:37:51 pm
I have dealt with the HSE on a safety level. Had there have been an electrocution they would have been down on the industry like "ton of bricks". I quote them.
I suspect from Steve's enquiries about franchising that his knowledge about subjects is built more upon ego  than fact. That is purely my opinion.
I would also add that training people to carry out what he seems to indicate is a highly dangerous activity,   has it been accepted as a BSI standard and  accepted by the HSE?  Either way, is this training covered by his insurance company?
Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: Splash & dash on April 24, 2017, 01:22:58 am
As I said before it's very unusual for ss to be so quite about a subject normally replies very quickly I smell a rat !!!!! I think as time goes by it will become apparent that it's not as dangerous as some people make out just a bit of scaremainering to promote his business 
Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: WISEOWL on April 24, 2017, 09:02:08 am
Glad to see the window cleaning community in unison as always.
Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: Bungle on April 24, 2017, 08:56:28 pm
Hi Wiseowl.  We will take it.  Please email the info through to sc@cleansolar.solutions
Sam Cox is the lady who will deal with it.

Thank you.

Steve.

What if one of the other 4 birds in the office answers the call? Or do they paint their nails all day?
Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: Mick Kent on April 25, 2017, 09:46:09 am
Why all the jealousy
All the man did was reply to a request for a solar job posted?
Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: Bungle on April 25, 2017, 01:02:58 pm
Nose brown
Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: martin hulstone on April 25, 2017, 02:09:09 pm
Why all the jealousy
All the man did was reply to a request for a solar job posted?
I am not jealous, far from it, i am always happy to see people doing well but i do not like people who tell lies on there websites to gain work through an unfair advantage.
If however Steve replied to my request of the details of the window cleaner who apparently electrocuted himself cleaning solar panels and spent 6 weeks/ or 3 months in hospital, i would issue an apology for not believing him.
Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: Splash & dash on April 25, 2017, 05:48:34 pm
Why all the jealousy
All the man did was reply to a request for a solar job posted?
nothing to do with jealousy it's the fact that he won't give any info on so called safety unless you attend his course and pay £200 + but is quite happy to try and make a quick buck from someone else by taking that job and subbing it out , if he gave a bit more rather than just take and try and use this forum for his own ends in free recruitment of subbys I think ones would view him in a different light , I've met him and he's a nice guy I just don't approve of his methods that's all
Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: Solar Steve on May 03, 2017, 08:41:30 pm
I  don't get all of this nonsense and how some of you still think I'm a rip off merchant looking to fleece subcontractors and flog a course for £200.  Seriously?  You think that's how I make my money?  This is how I spent my day yesterday:

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1493839276_Show1.png)

Some of you can mock all you like.  Mock my hair, my moustache and my suit if you want.  You can say I spout information to scaremainer and look to make a quick buck.  But I am here and you are not. 

I'm in Melbourne, taking preliminary steps to help a solar panel cleaning industry that is very much in it's infancy, as the UK was when I started.  People on the OTHER SIDE OF THE WORLD know who I am when I walk in the room, value my experience in this field, want my input, want me to write articles for their industry magazines, help them to write best practice guidelines that will set the standard for the Australian solar panel cleaning industry for years to come.  They want me to come and deliver my training course. 

You are backward if you think my main aim is to make a quick buck from a £200 course or if I'm in Melbourne for my ego.  I'm here because people value what I have to say. 

If anyone wants to hear me speak in person and see the type of audience I speak in front of, feel free to come and hear me speak at the All Energy show at the SEC, Scotland's largest exhibition centre in Glasgow on 11th May.  http://www.all-energy.co.uk/en/Sessions/42107/Solar

My message has not changed.  I am on this forum to do business.  I will not be drawn into tittle tattle.  I replied to the OP's request for someone who may be interested in the job.  What has followed highlights more about you as individuals rather than it does to me.

Come and find me at the show.  You'll see me.  I won't be faceless, hiding anonymously behind a pseudonym on a forum.  I'll be the one wandering around having my ego massaged with the 6 foot tall hair, curly moustache and dressed in my  Lawrence-Llewellyn Bowen suit.  Some of you lot are jokers, you really are.....
Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: Dave Willis on May 03, 2017, 08:56:45 pm
" all attendees must be dressed in appropriate attire for a business trade exhibition"  ???

Steve, was it you that got electrocuted?
Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: Mick Kent on May 03, 2017, 09:26:16 pm
Hahaha nice 1 Steve! Fair play mate. I think you look pukka! Brilliant photo.
Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: Splash & dash on May 03, 2017, 09:52:23 pm
I  don't get all of this nonsense and how some of you still think I'm a rip off merchant looking to fleece subcontractors and flog a course for £200.  Seriously?  You think that's how I make my money?  This is how I spent my day yesterday:

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1493839276_Show1.png)

Some of you can mock all you like.  Mock my hair, my moustache and my suit if you want.  You can say I
spout information to scaremainer and look to make a quick buck.  But I am here and you are not. 

I'm in Melbourne, taking preliminary steps to help a solar panel cleaning industry that is very much in it's infancy, as the UK was when I started.  People on the OTHER SIDE OF THE WORLD know who I am when I walk in the room, value my experience in this field, want my input, want me to write articles for their industry magazines, help them to write best practice guidelines that will set the standard for the Australian solar panel cleaning industry for years to come.  They want me to come and deliver my training course. 

You are backward if you think my main aim is to make a quick buck from a £200 course or if I'm in Melbourne for my ego.  I'm here because people value what I have to say. 

If anyone wants to hear me speak in person and see the type of audience I speak in front of, feel free to come and hear me speak at the All Energy show at the SEC, Scotland's largest exhibition centre in Glasgow on 11th May.  http://www.all-energy.co.uk/en/Sessions/42107/Solar

My message has not changed.  I am on this forum to do business.  I will not be drawn into tittle tattle.  I replied to the OP's request for someone who may be interested in the job.  What has followed highlights more about you as individuals rather than it does to me.

Come and find me at the show.  You'll see me.  I won't be faceless, hiding anonymously behind a pseudonym on a forum.  I'll be the one wandering around having my ego massaged with the 6 foot tall hair, curly moustache and dressed in my  Lawrence-Llewellyn Bowen suit.  Some of you lot are jokers, you really are.....
I still notice you haven't answered martins question about the supposed electrocution whys that then ? I know you don't make a living charging £200 for a course what I said was that you wouldn't give so called safety advice unless someone came on your course , that to me is morally wrong if you genuinely know something that could prevent someone from being injured or killed I think most people would share that information freely not try and make people pay for it . You are very welcome to be the big I am in oz I wish you all the best but most of us arnt the slightest bit intrested in doing what you are doing , it's interesting to note that you have re appeared on the forum to self promote yourself and your company yet again as you once said to me you would use any format to promote yourself/business if you are so famous why do you need this forum .
Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: ֍Winp®oClean֍ on May 03, 2017, 10:15:38 pm
I think there are One or Two on here who wish they were as " out there " as yourself Steve. Don't let green eyed monsters who are still slogging their nuts off on the tools bother you too much!! ;D
Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: AuRavelling79 on May 11, 2017, 08:08:45 am
My view ...

1. All Steve did was answer a request for help for a window cleaner's customer. Jealousy springs to mind.

2. Steve should answer and/or put right any anomalies and claims about electrocution. Evasive?

3. Well done to Steve on his trade promotion in Australia. I used to do this kind of function in a previous life (UK) and in among the boring dark suits his hair, 'tache and suit will be remembered in a good way by delegates. It's non threatening and fun. Perhaps a Bowler to set it off? Or go the whole hog with a topper and a monocle?

Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: Solar Steve on May 11, 2017, 09:01:10 pm
My view ...

1. All Steve did was answer a request for help for a window cleaner's customer. Jealousy springs to mind.

2. Steve should answer and/or put right any anomalies and claims about electrocution. Evasive?

3. Well done to Steve on his trade promotion in Australia. I used to do this kind of function in a previous life (UK) and in among the boring dark suits his hair, 'tache and suit will be remembered in a good way by delegates. It's non threatening and fun. Perhaps a Bowler to set it off? Or go the whole hog with a topper and a monocle?
I have a steampunk topper, complete with cogs and feathers and a few tailcoats too.  True story.  I might wear one of those for the next event.

People say I don't share valuable information on the forum.  Well here's some:

A lot of successful businesses have 3 brands:
1.  Company brand
2.  Product brand
3.  Personal brand

Virgin has their company brand, virgin trains is their product brand and Richard Branson, complete with long hair, beard and publicity stunts is the personal brand.
Apple had their company brand, iphone is their product brand and Steve Jobs who was famously fired by his own company and subsequently re-hired, was their personal brand.

Branson, Jobs et al were original in their approach.  It got them noticed.  Is Richard Branson a shameless self-promoter?  Not in my book.  He's a damn clever businessman.  He is part of the Western world's subconscious psyche.

Today, I walked around a show of probably 8,000 people and stuck out like a sore thumb.  But it is no accident.  It gets me remembered, but more importantly, it gets my company remembered.  I had people walk up to me to find out what I did, simply because I was dressed the way I was.  At lunchtime, I had 3 offers from people I don't know at all to sit with them and have lunch.   Whereas people pay thousands of pounds months in advance to get very limited speaking slots at these events, I am getting ASKED to do them for free.  Why?  I am different.  I add theatre.  Over the years I have honed my public speaking skills to capture the attention of my audience and engage them thoroughly.

There were 8 speakers I think in my section today, each had 10 minutes each.  After the session finished, an older gentleman came up to me and wanted to shake my hand.  He said that he arrived late to the session and missed my part.  But he said that all he heard when it finished was people talking about my image, my content and my delivery of my material.  He said he felt he had missed out on something!

If I walked around with a short back and sides, plain grey suit and white shirt, would I even be noticed?  No.  I would be anonymous and in turn, my company becomes more anonymous too. 

I was given some great advice about 2 years ago by someone in the solar industry.  They said that I had the product brand and we undoubtedly delivered a good service, but no one knew the story behind Clean Solar Solutions, nor the man behind the trailblazing ideas.  They told me to get out of the shadows and step into the spotlight.  They were confident that the business would flourish because of it.

They were right.  I came out from the shadows looking a little bit different, a bit maverick in my public speaking approach and began to tell the story of the council estate kid who walked around with ladders and a bucket at 16 years old.  The council estate kid who hit on an idea and ran with it, who landed a national contract with a blue chip company when he was a sole trader.  The council estate kid who landed an advisory role in meetings in the Shard in London, hobnobbing with some of the City's largest traders with posh canapes and free champagne.  The council estate kid who now finds himself in charge of a multinational company who speaks at large events and advises a whole new industry.

I doubt it would have happened if I hadn't been willing to listen to the advice of others and dare to be different.  This is not bragging.  It's my story.  I am becoming my own brand.  There may be no one who draws inspiration from this, but equally, there may be someone.  People love to hear a story.  Be the next story, be your own brand.

Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: Splash & dash on May 11, 2017, 10:34:11 pm
I enjoyed your story steve and I agree with some of it but you still haven't answered the electrocution question ?? Can we be given a credible answer please ?  Also you evaded the question of supplying so called vital safety advice most of us would be intrested in that rather than your business expansion plans as I for one don't want to expand like you have but would value safety advice from an expert like yourself as Ime on the tools and am quite happy doing that .
Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: Dave Willis on May 11, 2017, 10:55:16 pm
I seem to recall the electrocution story originated from the Purple Rhinoman and I took it to be a joke at the time.
Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: Bungle on May 11, 2017, 11:03:57 pm
Well after reading SS post I'm going to start cleaning windows in fancy dress as Bungle the bear. Reckon I'll get noticed?
Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: Tosh on May 11, 2017, 11:05:34 pm
Catweazle gets the best results apparently.
Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: Bungle on May 11, 2017, 11:07:13 pm
Catweazle gets the best results apparently.

I could go round with 2 sticks up me nose I suppose  ;D
Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: AuRavelling79 on May 11, 2017, 11:15:25 pm
Worzel Gummidge?
Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: Solar Steve on May 13, 2017, 07:50:48 pm
In many industries, companies withold information from their competitors, current, future or imagined. Sometimes this will be to do with product design, functionality or safety.

NCAP safety testing for cars is a good example. If you want a 5 star rating on your brand motor, it is down to you design it as such and do the research yourself. You can't ask the MD of Renault on a public internet forum and expect him to tell you how to do it. His company put the time, resource and research into getting the information. Why should Renault give it away without some sort of recompense?

Similarly, Samsung have a big problem with the Note 7. The battery blows up on airplanes. It's a safety issue. Will they be in the phone to Apple asking how their batteries don't blow up? No. They know better. Samsung would be much better off CEASING production of further models of the Note until they identify and rectify the safety issue. As they have done.

Apple are under no compulsion to share their safety knowledge unless Samsung are willing to pay them handsomely.

I am exactly the same. I am under no compulsion, moral or otherwise, to share my safety information. People who think that a couple of hundred quid for a course are paying me handsomely are mistaken. That's not how we make the money. My benefit comes over time as my companies grow.

People who are willing to become Approved Contractors in AUSwill now start to pay for their training. Our benefit is not from the fee, but from the value as the company grows.

And before anyone mentions figures that we pay, last years highest earning Approved Contractor earned tens of thousands last year, so the benefit works in all directions, not just mine.
Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: supernova77 on May 13, 2017, 08:42:30 pm
My view ...

1. All Steve did was answer a request for help for a window cleaner's customer. Jealousy springs to mind.

2. Steve should answer and/or put right any anomalies and claims about electrocution. Evasive?

3. Well done to Steve on his trade promotion in Australia. I used to do this kind of function in a previous life (UK) and in among the boring dark suits his hair, 'tache and suit will be remembered in a good way by delegates. It's non threatening and fun. Perhaps a Bowler to set it off? Or go the whole hog with a topper and a monocle?
I have a steampunk topper, complete with cogs and feathers and a few tailcoats too.  True story.  I might wear one of those for the next event.

People say I don't share valuable information on the forum.  Well here's some:

A lot of successful businesses have 3 brands:
1.  Company brand
2.  Product brand
3.  Personal brand

Virgin has their company brand, virgin trains is their product brand and Richard Branson, complete with long hair, beard and publicity stunts is the personal brand.
Apple had their company brand, iphone is their product brand and Steve Jobs who was famously fired by his own company and subsequently re-hired, was their personal brand.

Branson, Jobs et al were original in their approach.  It got them noticed.  Is Richard Branson a shameless self-promoter?  Not in my book.  He's a damn clever businessman.  He is part of the Western world's subconscious psyche.

Today, I walked around a show of probably 8,000 people and stuck out like a sore thumb.  But it is no accident.  It gets me remembered, but more importantly, it gets my company remembered.  I had people walk up to me to find out what I did, simply because I was dressed the way I was.  At lunchtime, I had 3 offers from people I don't know at all to sit with them and have lunch.   Whereas people pay thousands of pounds months in advance to get very limited speaking slots at these events, I am getting ASKED to do them for free.  Why?  I am different.  I add theatre.  Over the years I have honed my public speaking skills to capture the attention of my audience and engage them thoroughly.

There were 8 speakers I think in my section today, each had 10 minutes each.  After the session finished, an older gentleman came up to me and wanted to shake my hand.  He said that he arrived late to the session and missed my part.  But he said that all he heard when it finished was people talking about my image, my content and my delivery of my material.  He said he felt he had missed out on something!

If I walked around with a short back and sides, plain grey suit and white shirt, would I even be noticed?  No.  I would be anonymous and in turn, my company becomes more anonymous too. 

I was given some great advice about 2 years ago by someone in the solar industry.  They said that I had the product brand and we undoubtedly delivered a good service, but no one knew the story behind Clean Solar Solutions, nor the man behind the trailblazing ideas.  They told me to get out of the shadows and step into the spotlight.  They were confident that the business would flourish because of it.

They were right.  I came out from the shadows looking a little bit different, a bit maverick in my public speaking approach and began to tell the story of the council estate kid who walked around with ladders and a bucket at 16 years old.  The council estate kid who hit on an idea and ran with it, who landed a national contract with a blue chip company when he was a sole trader.  The council estate kid who landed an advisory role in meetings in the Shard in London, hobnobbing with some of the City's largest traders with posh canapes and free champagne.  The council estate kid who now finds himself in charge of a multinational company who speaks at large events and advises a whole new industry.

I doubt it would have happened if I hadn't been willing to listen to the advice of others and dare to be different.  This is not bragging.  It's my story.  I am becoming my own brand.  There may be no one who draws inspiration from this, but equally, there may be someone.  People love to hear a story.  Be the next story, be your own brand.



It sounds like an episode of The Apprentice.

:)
Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: 8weekly on May 13, 2017, 08:54:39 pm
My view ...

1. All Steve did was answer a request for help for a window cleaner's customer. Jealousy springs to mind.

2. Steve should answer and/or put right any anomalies and claims about electrocution. Evasive?

3. Well done to Steve on his trade promotion in Australia. I used to do this kind of function in a previous life (UK) and in among the boring dark suits his hair, 'tache and suit will be remembered in a good way by delegates. It's non threatening and fun. Perhaps a Bowler to set it off? Or go the whole hog with a topper and a monocle?
I have a steampunk topper, complete with cogs and feathers and a few tailcoats too.  True story.  I might wear one of those for the next event.

People say I don't share valuable information on the forum.  Well here's some:

A lot of successful businesses have 3 brands:
1.  Company brand
2.  Product brand
3.  Personal brand

Virgin has their company brand, virgin trains is their product brand and Richard Branson, complete with long hair, beard and publicity stunts is the personal brand.
Apple had their company brand, iphone is their product brand and Steve Jobs who was famously fired by his own company and subsequently re-hired, was their personal brand.

Branson, Jobs et al were original in their approach.  It got them noticed.  Is Richard Branson a shameless self-promoter?  Not in my book.  He's a damn clever businessman.  He is part of the Western world's subconscious psyche.

Today, I walked around a show of probably 8,000 people and stuck out like a sore thumb.  But it is no accident.  It gets me remembered, but more importantly, it gets my company remembered.  I had people walk up to me to find out what I did, simply because I was dressed the way I was.  At lunchtime, I had 3 offers from people I don't know at all to sit with them and have lunch.   Whereas people pay thousands of pounds months in advance to get very limited speaking slots at these events, I am getting ASKED to do them for free.  Why?  I am different.  I add theatre.  Over the years I have honed my public speaking skills to capture the attention of my audience and engage them thoroughly.

There were 8 speakers I think in my section today, each had 10 minutes each.  After the session finished, an older gentleman came up to me and wanted to shake my hand.  He said that he arrived late to the session and missed my part.  But he said that all he heard when it finished was people talking about my image, my content and my delivery of my material.  He said he felt he had missed out on something!

If I walked around with a short back and sides, plain grey suit and white shirt, would I even be noticed?  No.  I would be anonymous and in turn, my company becomes more anonymous too. 

I was given some great advice about 2 years ago by someone in the solar industry.  They said that I had the product brand and we undoubtedly delivered a good service, but no one knew the story behind Clean Solar Solutions, nor the man behind the trailblazing ideas.  They told me to get out of the shadows and step into the spotlight.  They were confident that the business would flourish because of it.

They were right.  I came out from the shadows looking a little bit different, a bit maverick in my public speaking approach and began to tell the story of the council estate kid who walked around with ladders and a bucket at 16 years old.  The council estate kid who hit on an idea and ran with it, who landed a national contract with a blue chip company when he was a sole trader.  The council estate kid who landed an advisory role in meetings in the Shard in London, hobnobbing with some of the City's largest traders with posh canapes and free champagne.  The council estate kid who now finds himself in charge of a multinational company who speaks at large events and advises a whole new industry.

I doubt it would have happened if I hadn't been willing to listen to the advice of others and dare to be different.  This is not bragging.  It's my story.  I am becoming my own brand.  There may be no one who draws inspiration from this, but equally, there may be someone.  People love to hear a story.  Be the next story, be your own brand.



It sounds like an episode of The Apprentice.

:)
He's becoming his own brand. Everyone loves their own brand.  ;D
Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: Solar Steve on May 13, 2017, 10:27:38 pm
As per the start of the post, personal brand is important.
Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: David Morris wc on May 13, 2017, 10:43:59 pm
Solar Steve

Keep up the good work, love your style and your story.

Cheers

Dave

PS are you the same Steve who cleaned the Boots stores in Telford / Wolverhampton many moons back ?
Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: Soupy on May 14, 2017, 05:30:07 am
NCAP safety testing for cars is a good example. If you want a 5 star rating on your brand motor, it is down to you design it as such and do the research yourself. You can't ask the MD of Renault on a public internet forum and expect him to tell you how to do it. His company put the time, resource and research into getting the information. Why should Renault give it away without some sort of recompense?

Interesting although ultimately flawed argument. There would be no benefit in car companies hiding safety features, other manufacturers would just get the car and reverse engineer it anyway. Your secret is there for all to see.

Most of the time safety equipment on a car is produced outside of the factory, I believe there is a single company that makes most of the safety features for most cars. Autolive or summat.

Interestingly enough it was someone at volvo who came up with the 3 point seat belt, the patent was opened to allow other car manufacturers to use the design free, saving millions of lives.

Just sayin' like.
Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: Og on May 14, 2017, 06:34:19 am
Hi Steve, good to see you're doing well. How come you don't pass us any work anymore? Haven't heard from you for nearly a year?
All the best
Ole
Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: Solar Steve on May 14, 2017, 09:24:27 am
Hi Steve, good to see you're doing well. How come you don't pass us any work anymore? Haven't heard from you for nearly a year?
All the best
Ole
Hi Ole. Geography, nothing more. We simply haven't had a job within your territory. I had a thermal imaging job to do in a ground mount nearby, but not cleaning. We've had a high concentration of jobs in the south, as you'd expect. We have 2 solar farms coming up near Evesham, about 40,000 panels in total. We will have at least one team plus the local AC on them.  If you are happy to travel there, we can give you an allocation. 👍🏼

I can't remember specifics, but I recall a couple of comments you've made on here about us have been less than complementary though...  ???
Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: Solar Steve on May 14, 2017, 09:37:44 am
Solar Steve

Keep up the good work, love your style and your story.

Cheers

Dave

PS are you the same Steve who cleaned the Boots stores in Telford / Wolverhampton many moons back ?
Hi Dave. Thanks for the kind words. I am one and the same. Doing Boots was a few years back now!  :)
Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: Tosh on May 14, 2017, 09:59:14 am
I can't remember specifics, but I recall a couple of comments you've made on here about us have been less than complementary though...  ???
  That's funny.


I'd be asking for a refund.
Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: Susan Dean (1stclean) on May 14, 2017, 11:37:55 am
I can't remember specifics, but I recall a couple of comments you've made on here about us have been less than complementary though...  ???
  That's funny.


I'd be asking for a refund.


lol if you don't lick his bottom you don't get any work !! don't get me started on how he works as I would be here a week telling people what an idiot he is
Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: 8weekly on May 14, 2017, 12:05:18 pm
I can't remember specifics, but I recall a couple of comments you've made on here about us have been less than complementary though...  ???
  That's funny.


I'd be asking for a refund.


lol if you don't lick his bottom you don't get any work !! don't get me started on how he works as I would be here a week telling people what a bell end he is
To be honest you only have to read the long post above to see that. It's like claiming responsibility for inventing the locomotive because you polished the bar in the buffet car. Deluded.
Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: Susan Dean (1stclean) on May 14, 2017, 12:39:41 pm
I can't remember specifics, but I recall a couple of comments you've made on here about us have been less than complementary though...  ???
  That's funny.


I'd be asking for a refund.


lol if you don't lick his bottom you don't get any work !! don't get me started on how he works as I would be here a week telling people what a bell end he is
To be honest you only have to read the long post above to see that. It's like claiming responsibility for inventing the locomotive because you polished the bar in the buffet car. Deluded.

i wish I could put things so elegantly as you , people need to stop away from stev and his bull he talks ,  we worked for him for over 16 months and its been a hell of a ride with , the poor payments , the way he talks too you and the bull  he feeds you,

yet alone the rate he pays , he puts on over 100% on jobs and ive seen this rise too over 300 % on the bigger jobs hes all matey matey with you when like us we cloverd a 120 mile square part of the country , yes  I did say 120 mile  , or when hes in the poop and needs your help

all of people we worked (solar companys) cant stand him and the way he speaks to people even his own staff  , he talks to some of the biggest edge fund mangers like they don't know what there doing yet these guys run sites worth 20million pounds each and have 20 +of them , trust me these guys know what there doing

if your on your arse and skint then work for him if not stay away from the fool , we put our work , and money into it as at first we thought it was worth a try and why not ? he talked the talk and its a good idear , but hes a  fool that doesn't know how to treat people right
Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: Tosh on May 14, 2017, 01:01:37 pm
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Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: Solar Steve on May 14, 2017, 04:40:34 pm
I can't remember specifics, but I recall a couple of comments you've made on here about us have been less than complementary though...  ???
  That's funny.


I'd be asking for a refund.


lol if you don't lick his bottom you don't get any work !! don't get me started on how he works as I would be here a week telling people what a bell end he is
To be honest you only have to read the long post above to see that. It's like claiming responsibility for inventing the locomotive because you polished the bar in the buffet car. Deluded.

i wish I could put things so elegantly as you , people need to stop away from stev and his bull he talks ,  we worked for him for over 16 months and its been a hell of a ride with , the poor payments , the way he talks too you and the bull  he feeds you,

yet alone the rate he pays , he puts on over 100% on jobs and ive seen this rise too over 300 % on the bigger jobs hes all matey matey with you when like us we cloverd a 120 mile square part of the country , yes  I did say 120 mile  , or when hes in the poop and needs your help

all of people we worked (solar companys) cant stand him and the way he speaks to people even his own staff  , he talks to some of the biggest edge fund mangers like they don't know what there doing yet these guys run sites worth 20million pounds each and have 20 +of them , trust me these guys know what there doing

if your on your arse and skint then work for him if not stay away from the fool , we put our work , and money into it as at first we thought it was worth a try and why not ? he talked the talk and its a good idear , but hes a  fool that doesn't know how to treat people right
Julian, seriously???? Where has all of this come from?

But for the record, you have no idea how much we put on jobs. Absolutely no idea. I tell you what, I wish I was putting 100% on, let alone 300%! 300%???? Where do you get that from? I'm going well, but I'm not doing 300% well! 😂😂😂

Secondly, you and I have never even crossed swords verbally or by email. You have NEVER intimated to me that you were not happy with any arrangement we had.

Thirdly, 120 square miles is only 12 miles by 10 miles, so not a big distance at all. We can cover more then that on a days window cleaning.

Fourthly, you have NEVER heard me talk to my staff either, so how do you know how I speak to them?

Fifth, I have been tasked by the Solar Trade Association to set up an online forum for the O&M industry. I present it to them on Thursday at an investors offices in London, the same hedge (not edge) fund investors who own the 20x £20m sites. I wouldn't get asked to do such things, not would I get through their doors if they thought I didn't know what I was on about would I? You try walking up to the door and see how far you get. Not past the front door mate, that's how far.

If you had so many issues with how we operate, how I speak to people, how much I charge etc, why have you NEVER raised his with me in the phone or via email. I say to everyone we work with, if you're not happy, ring me and we will try to resolve.  You have not done so even once, but have chosen to spew your fictional vitriol on a forum.

If you want to talk specifics about where you think I have let you down, you have my number....
Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: Paul erithwc on May 14, 2017, 05:01:23 pm
I personally don't care about the larger companies on here good on them for getting out their and build a good business, but i can see solar panel cleaning on the big sites being take by the big facility services companies at a fraction of the cost the same way they do with the commercial window cleaning. That's when the smaller guys that depend on that income will crumble and go bust owing money to their sub contractors ;D

regards Paul
Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: Splash & dash on May 14, 2017, 05:42:00 pm
Oh dear a lot of un happy ex approved contractors by the look of it hopefully this will act as a lesson for others considering doing this slave labour job . Still no comment about the electrocution steve whys that then ??? Unlike you not to reply ?????
Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: Susan Dean (1stclean) on May 14, 2017, 06:58:24 pm
Oh dear a lot of un happy ex approved contractors by the look of it hopefully this will act as a lesson for others considering doing this slave labour job . Still no comment about the electrocution steve whys that then ??? Unlike you not to reply ?????

he wont reply as hes full of bull , and hes now starting to get found out , he dazzles you with storys and bull , things like you cant wear steel toe caps on site for safety , yet when you sign in  on one of his sties that you are contracted in to clean  the site safty officer wont let you sign in or on there site if you not wearing steel toe caps ,  its a joke ,

 we have cleaned loads of jobs for him yet not once as he got A COPY our insurance  , nor a copy of any of our staffs driving details again all leading companys when subbying out want all  the vans paper work  tax,test,insurnce , also they want a copy of the drivers details as well as the owners so they can make sure there fully  covered !!! as standard van insurance wont cover you on site its in the small print,  but maybe were use to working for better companys , ie , dhl,dx.eiddie Stobart ,ici,and n power

his phones always swiched on?  is a load of bull as well 3 times may staff tried to get hold of him or his staff and they just couldn't care less , he once even told my staff "oh ring the office as that's what they get paid for " ehhhh after trying to get hold of them for an hour who else would you ring ? stood there with a problem on one of his jobs to be told this from the so called big man of solar panel cleaning what a tosser all for 30 pounds while he charges 75plus vat two hours down the drain for 30 quid on a d job for him that we travled46 miles each way for

what I would say is if you want to make money stop away from him , I know four others that have worked for him and will tell you the same I told him husband to bin this crap off as we didn't want to put out good name to such a poor outfit

stev is a great bloke but !!!! hes made a monster that he cant control and asnt got the staff to handle it in place he too busy walking round in his very silly out fits try too be important rather then being on the ball with his staff and contracters
Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: Paul erithwc on May 14, 2017, 07:23:24 pm

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30 pounds while he charges 75plus vat two hours down the drain for 30 quid on a d job for him that we travled46 miles each way for


Why on earth would you travel 92 miles to earn £30 less fuel/tax/ni you must be crazy  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: Mick Kent on May 15, 2017, 08:16:31 am
I have worked with 2 guys who do work for Steve 1 being a supervisor for him, both hit near a grand a week and are happy as chips with nothing but praise for the Steve. He has to make a profit or not worth being in business, solar cleaning is cut throat as it is so to be the market leader of solar cleaning he has done well in my book.
Gotta love the jealous haters out there :-*
Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: dazmond on May 15, 2017, 12:52:30 pm
theres always two sides to every story................
Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: Tosh on May 15, 2017, 01:38:07 pm
 Not if you're a triangle.
Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: AuRavelling79 on May 15, 2017, 03:15:21 pm
Anyway, we are still waiting for clarification of the Electrocution anomaly ...

Rupert Bear outfits with or without Isambard Kingdom Brunel hats and Dick Dastardly moustaches are surely subjects for desultory interest and humour; not obfuscation.
Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: Soupy on May 15, 2017, 03:20:00 pm
Anyway, we are still waiting for clarification of the Electrocution anomaly ...

Rupert Bear outfits with or without Isambard Kingdom Brunel hats and Dick Dastardly moustaches are surely subjects for desultory interest and humour; not obfuscation.

You tell 'em granny. I guess.
Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: Dave Willis on May 15, 2017, 03:23:59 pm
There was no electrocution. It came from Darren wotshisface of the Purple Rhino. Both of them have had hissy fits in the past and deleted their accounts so finding the post would be tedious. They both left the forum only to return for similar self promotion. We are useful you see.  ;)
Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: Tosh on May 15, 2017, 06:16:29 pm
According to this page theres a very very real risk of being lethally electrocuted cleaning solar panels, otherwise it wouldn’t have been included in the webpage.


http://www.solar-panel-cleaners.com/top-facts-about-solar-panel-cleaning (http://www.solar-panel-cleaners.com/top-facts-about-solar-panel-cleaning)


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Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: 8weekly on May 15, 2017, 06:20:06 pm
According to this page theres a very very real risk of being lethally electrocuted cleaning solar panels, otherwise it wouldn’t have been included in the webpage.


http://www.solar-panel-cleaners.com/top-facts-about-solar-panel-cleaning (http://www.solar-panel-cleaners.com/top-facts-about-solar-panel-cleaning)


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Needs a proof read.
Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: Solar Steve on May 15, 2017, 07:48:08 pm

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30 pounds while he charges 75plus vat two hours down the drain for 30 quid on a d job for him that we travled46 miles each way for


Why on earth would you travel 92 miles to earn £30 less fuel/tax/ni you must be crazy  ;D ;D
Not every subcontractor will be kept happy.  Often, it is down to the mismanagement of their own time and resources than it is a failing on our part.   We are not 100% on the ball with everything. But AC's do not help themselves if they take on jobs that are far away or on large solar farms where we advise how to clean them efficiently, but then disregard their advice.  We do everything we can to set them up for success.

 As Julian said earlier, yes, I have a monster that is hard to control, but managing rapid growth is very hard.  This week alone I have started another two employees on tools, have another starting in the office tomorrow and another next week.  They are not replacements.  They are ADDITIONAL staff!  We do all we can to make the lives of AC's as smooth as possible.

Julian, I apologise if you feel we or I personally have let you or your business down.  Apart from offering you jobs, some more profitable than others (and you know some have been profitable) but none that we ever want any AC to take a hit on, I don't see what else I have done wrong.

Like I said before, you or any other AC reading this can call me or drop me an email if you or they are disgruntled.  I ALWAYS say to all AC's that we want their feedback as to how we can improve.  From you, we have heard nothing.  How can I help address your concerns unless you tell me what they are.  Coming on here and airing your grievances is not the professional way of doing it.
Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: Bungle on May 15, 2017, 08:52:46 pm
Is Julian Susan then? I'm confused.
Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: Mick Kent on May 16, 2017, 12:21:15 am
This is like only fools!
Who's Julian?
Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: Solar Steve on May 16, 2017, 03:47:58 pm
This is like only fools!
Who's Julian?
Susan. Big Red Monkey Window Cleaning near Colchester.
Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: AuRavelling79 on May 16, 2017, 04:04:31 pm
Calling Solar Steve ... Calling Solar Steve...

ELECTROCUTION - not elocution please.
Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: Dave Willis on May 16, 2017, 04:48:10 pm
selective hearing .......... pardon?
Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: kiral1404 on May 29, 2017, 12:48:43 pm
I don't often post on here generally like to sift out bits of useful info and leave the bitching to the regulars.
Steve back story sounds good, when you're successful you generally upset people on the way.
To my main point.

I've worked in the electric industry for over 12 years  upto 2005 in substations upto 400,000 volts. I have a healthy respect for electricity.
If you are gonna clean solar panels, I'd recommend wearing electrical gloves upto 1000v.

Tried having a look on Web about volts and amps. All I can find is volts per panel is about 50v and 6/7 amps.

My advice would be if there are any cracked panels or frayed wires leave alone and report it.
This if there was an electrocution would be the likely factor in it.

I don't wish to step on anyone's toes but a few little pointers should help you guys.
Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: Shrek on May 29, 2017, 12:53:48 pm
Can you actually see if the panels have a crack from the ground?
Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: kiral1404 on May 29, 2017, 07:09:13 pm
I was referring more to ground mounted. I suppose with roof mounted you could possibly see a crack with the right light refraction.

Ultimately if in doubt wear electrical gloves. Think screwfix might do some.
Title: Re: Solar Panel Cleaning
Post by: Og on May 29, 2017, 10:12:04 pm
Probably should have MCS accreditation and EPC to clean panels. That's the way it'll go soon.
Good job too. Cut out the cowboys.