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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: danny@thepersonalcoachinggroup on April 17, 2017, 02:52:37 pm
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Hello All,
I would like to know your thoughts on the reasons why you haven't, didn't or couldn't start that business idea?
why do you think you haven't seen the growth you wanted?
I'm here for small tips and ideas
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Lack of effort and persistence.
That's the only reason to fail at anything.
There's your personal coaching for today.
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good point. one knows himself!
as I see this hasn't stopped you from starting a business which is great as many people don't get that far.
has this stopped you progressing in business?
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adam Thompson I like your website. do you have employees or do you work alone?
danny
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Spammy Danny. ;D
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yeah mate it seems it, but I genuinely want to know. what to help and will show those that need it.
I thought this would be a better place as many are 'looking for rounds'
I do love coaching - have a dipiloma in youth working
and have a nice size small window cleaning business
I'm starting with tips and questions which will help growing the brand awareness, also this is a smaller stage to practice on for a few weeks before I use facebook, linked in, twitter as it moves slower here
but anyways I'm not spamming more pushing
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Hello All,
I would like to know your thoughts on the reasons why you haven't, didn't or couldn't start that business idea?
why do you think you haven't seen the growth you wanted?
I'm here for small tips and ideas
Strange. Your asking your question to people who all have their own business on here? They all did start that business ect ect.
What your really after is the answer to growing your business. So the answer your looking for is as simple as this, work hard, work smart and spend some money on the things that work for you.
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true Lee Pryor, on both comments
I'm looking for discussions and topics that suit to the nature of MY new business.
I want to breakdown the general comment of hard work, effort and savvie spending.
its clear to me from the wanted rounds/business for sale topics that I can provide value to some.
some people are genuinely buying for growth and fast expansion but some are trying to buy/ grow without putting in those criteria you spoke grow or get their business up and running.
what I aim to offer is tactics, tips and support for those who want to have better business strategies, targeted involvement, and context to those meanings of the simple things you mentioned.
businesses like this one I am starting will definitely help some, not all, but those who Identify with the changes they need to make personally and professionally to get where they want to be.
I also want a case study to help both myself with implementing for me to document the journey and a business/person that needs the support if you know any?
(please when reading my words that none of them are said in a derogatory or stressed manner) I'm happy for the involvement and comments from all:)
Danny
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Hi Danny.
Welcome. I see this post is only 3 hours old, so not many will have seen it yet. I think I will like what you have to say, but I warn you that many will not. You may come in for some serious stick. Be very careful not to be seen to promote your business. That doesn't go down well either. Just a heads up.
I have a few ideas for what I see to be profitable businesses at the moment, nothing ground breaking, but profitable. The only reason I haven't is because I have 3 businesses already, one of which has seen massive growth in 3 & 1/2 years. I simply don't have the time to set the others up and give them the attention they would need.
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its a god given fact
hes peddling rubbish
what is it with these pay-me-and youll get rich-but so will i - Gurus
seems to be an ever increasing number
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k.diver
it is making me laugh!!!! everything I say and post sounds like the youtube adds that come on in in between my videos.
3 step 6 step I'm not sure how many as I'm just starting. it is spammy as someone mentioned before.
just making the path to success(cue the inspirational lines)
you find me someone that needs to help and I will do if for free, window cleaning preferred but will take on any.
someone starting out or has a small business that wants to grow(they can pay me after)
I need a case study!!!!
danny
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Hi Danny.
Welcome. I see this post is only 3 hours old, so not many will have seen it yet. I think I will like what you have to say, but I warn you that many will not. You may come in for some serious stick. Be very careful not to be seen to promote your business. That doesn't go down well either. Just a heads up.
I have a few ideas for what I see to be profitable businesses at the moment, nothing ground breaking, but profitable. The only reason I haven't is because I have 3 businesses already, one of which has seen massive growth in 3 & 1/2 years. I simply don't have the time to set the others up and give them the attention they would need.
hello solar steve,
yeah admin were on me already but I have changed the angle now. I usually just go straight in and adjust as I go.
I appreciate what you are saying, rough with the smooth my cleaning fellow!!!
are you offering a business deal or some kind of info on these ideas?
anyways I get how it all works I'm just going for it:)
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Whats your advice on switching from tradituonal cleaning to wfp in order for one to grow said business.
What advice can you give on RO and water storage or van pay loads and suitable in van installation or diy system. Whats the best poles to use and the brushes and should one go for hot or cold system.
Then should one purchase a round based on what advice or pay someone to canvass and perhaps not like the results of either.
Should one invest in a web page or design one themselves? What about the best investment with insurance or even better whos the best accountant to see who will help me expand by saving money.
Could you possibly start with answering some of these questions and then people can see if you have any credentials to help them grow this type of business???
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Hi Danny.
What is your age? How much profit does your business make vs turnover.? How long have you been in business yourself?
Why are you looking at giving business advice? Are you intending to make a business from giving advice? Or are you just looking at ways to improve your own business strategy from more experienced individuals? All of which are OK by the way, but which is it?
No offence, but I can guarantee there will be many individuals on here with far more experience on running a business than you or me, what is in it for them to share thier knowledge with you?
If you think you have more knowledge to offer on a particular part of business strategy could you be more specific?
Is it coaching for moral support, or simply acting as a kick up the bum guy to help get goals achieved?
Just checked your company website. Are you a group of companies? A group of people? Are you Ltd or sole trader? Are you a partnership of business advisors?
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Whats your advice on switching from tradituonal cleaning to wfp in order for one to grow said business.
What advice can you give on RO and water storage or van pay loads and suitable in van installation or diy system. Whats the best poles to use and the brushes and should one go for hot or cold system.
Then should one purchase a round based on what advice or pay someone to canvass and perhaps not like the results of either.
Should one invest in a web page or design one themselves? What about the best investment with insurance or even better whos the best accountant to see who will help me expand by saving money.
Could you possibly start with answering some of these questions and then people can see if you have any credentials to help them grow this type of business???
insurance- insurance idefinitely a yes to have. you are covered and having copies freely available to customers and businesses shows professionalism and is easy to obtain trust of residential and commercial customers. Searching around online, becoming part of federations/ professional groups offer good brokers and packages. the cost varies as you know as to what you want covered. I used a independent company for a few years which were cheaper until certain changes to policy meant a company found with simply business cost a few hundred less for the same policy.
round purchase- I would not really suggest anyone to buy a round unless to start. perhaps one they have worked in for a while and know routes customers etc. I am offering something different, canvassing and brand awareness one to one with owners managers. i always believe that if your business and strategies are good then you will grow at the rate you want. I would probably suggest a few different ways to go about taking on canvassed or another round. the best accountant is not really a thing to worry about. you have to pick one. preferably local to you for access to them. if you are a million£ business then different options further afield maybe needed. you can always change or seek a second opinion if something doesn't seem correct and most will offer initial meetings free. you are not tied to them.
polesystem- I would not necessarily advise either way for a small business to move from ladder to pole system or vice versa. just use the techniques and tools you want to get the job done correct. I have seen many use pole system with poor quality and traditional too. some with vast expensive equipment and quick set ups. Both have there bad days when not used correctly, some businesses more often than others. the point I will be pushing is about intent, decency and going over proper techniques to maximize customer satisfaction.
with regaurd to pole systems I do not have the information about the high tech / high spec equipment that would be somewhere that they would need to check out themselves after I have helped them reached to that point.
the skills I have are customer service, mental focus and brand package building as I have done for my own window cleaning business recently.
van pay load will be worked out using certain elements such as van size, water amounts, etc.
I have only recently used resin filters which worked excellently and I'm sure RO systems the same for many others. the proof is in the work and business ethic.
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All seems a little fAgue and no real push in helping other than a motivational push of their own credentials.
Unless im completely mistaken
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All seems a little fAgue and no real push in helping other than a motivational push of their own credentials.
Unless im completely mistaken
possibly, it might be my English to typing skills
to be fair the questions you have asked are relevent to the individual choices we all make with regaurd to getting a deal of a few £100 saved on insurance which system if there were only one great one everybody would use them. I am offering the ins and out to growth, showing how to sort problems. even getting in the zone to get out and get things done. but showing side by side
which bits would you like me to cover again.
I appreciate your questions
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Hi Danny, welcome.
I think Danny is looking to give advice on growing a business to the next level using goal setting, planning, branding etc etc rather than advice on equipment etc etc.
I believe there is a lot more to running a growing window cleaning business than meets the eye.
Any help on such matters should be greatly appreciated if Danny is offering them for free. Someone might pick up on one comment that transforms his or her business.
This is just my opinion, I don't know Danny from Adam.
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I appreciate you may at one time have been a window cleaner and as some have mentioned, there are many who have been in this business and self employed for a good number of years and have built successful businesses up. There is no short cuts in this business but hard graft and perseverance. Apart from the smaller additional aspects like transitioning from trad to wfp or starting up in trad or wfp, but with the latter there is more to it than just a bucket n laddders for instance. A new learning curve which im sure many would like a personal coach with them during that learning curve and so your idea might take off, but to pay for that help especially when that particular curve is slow and income not great, then i dont know if someone would be willing to part with cash for that service.
Other than that it is good old fashion elbow grease (effort) to build a business and get your name/brand name out there. A little help maybe in the social media or web building to get enquiries coming in, may be advantageous to some as well. But it doesnt seem like this is what you are offering, apart from maybe pointing them in the right direction.
Unless im mistaken and you will actually help them through this curve by showing the ropes of the trade and if going wfp what their best possible options are for them and then how to perfect their technique and then sit with them and design their web page etc etc
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Hi Danny, welcome.
I think Danny is looking to give advice on growing a business to the next level using goal setting, planning, branding etc etc rather than advice on equipment etc etc.
I believe there is a lot more to running a growing window cleaning business than meets the eye.
Any help on such matters should be greatly appreciated if Danny is offering them for free. Someone might pick up on one comment that transforms his or her business.
This is just my opinion, I don't know Danny from Adam.
So basically a free kick up the arse for some people then. Or do some actually start a business and not have a clue how to build it and expand by setting goals etc. Lol ive only just turned 40 but the generations younger surely arent that thick yet are they?? ::)roll ::)roll
Dont think the kick up the backside is free either....
Though saying the above, i have tweeked little bits here and there based on free communications on this forum which has helped my business and many more have said that as well, even ines who just visit and read the threads without contributing have all benefited one way or the other.
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Hi Danny, welcome.
I think Danny is looking to give advice on growing a business to the next level using goal setting, planning, branding etc etc rather than advice on equipment etc etc.
I believe there is a lot more to running a growing window cleaning business than meets the eye.
Any help on such matters should be greatly appreciated if Danny is offering them for free. Someone might pick up on one comment that transforms his or her business.
This is just my opinion, I don't know Danny from Adam.
Phew Cheers David! I don't know Adam either:)
yes I am offering for free, my knowledge and 2ps worth on platforms in asking or answering.
I do charge for meeting in a life or business setting doing the actual ground work. (only deposit fee until work is finish and signed off)
but yes there are bigger business that know more or different or better. until i or they share that nobody benefits paid or otherwise I suppose. I have some very valuable things to offer.
I have picked up many lessons in life some free some paid for
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No problem at all Danny. Working smarter not harder is what I have been implementing the last couple of years. My window cleaning business is 7 years young but has come on leaps and bounds the last couple of years through clear goal setting and planning. The next 2 years are already planned out with weekly and monthly new customer targets set along with a plan of action to hit them. Far cry from my first brodex aluminium pole and Vikan brush!! Still remember turning up at my first customers house!
I'm all for personal development and goal setting.
Onwards and upwards!
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Kevin Dubrosky- The Whale Vomit Method. Another ex window cleaner apparently.
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to use the term kick up the arse is ok I suppose.
as long as I dont get judged as bad or spammy if the businesses I help go from £12,000 per year to £20/30/40,000
it will happen!!!
but its also about everything from work/life balance, small business building, showing how to get passed those mental, physical and financial barriers.
I will have blogs and case studies up and running soon so I will keep you all posted
I can show eyes where to look, ears where to listen, when and where to act/react
some people misjudge the signs and opportunity is missed
I will explain.....
as an individual we are the best promotion and advert for our business. if we find that genuine love for what we do, it shows in our actions, we will positively and openly talk about our business in most situations (without banging on about it)
window cleaners have a hard sell instantly as there have been and are loads of dodgy ones. so giving a fresh open view of ourselves is a big hurdle jumped in making a connection with the public.
many many many things we can do to change that image
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No problem at all Danny. Working smarter not harder is what I have been implementing the last couple of years. My window cleaning business is 7 years young but has come on leaps and bounds the last couple of years through clear goal setting and planning. The next 2 years are already planned out with weekly and monthly new customer targets set along with a plan of action to hit them. Far cry from my first brodex aluminium pole and Vikan brush!! Still remember turning up at my first customers house!
I'm all for personal development and goal setting.
Onwards and upwards!
exactly brodex pole and vikan brush(fook knows) but we all start somewhere with what we have. I started with some old tools, the applicator flopping off either end through the holes and the squeegee rubber was about 2 months old. learn and grow!
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Danny please tell us what size your business is at now please. What is your monthly turnover, how many staff/vans ect.
I really think if people want business growth and strategy advice, they should get it from someone that's been there and achieved the level that person aspires to.
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Danny, I'm thinking of starting a pole vaulting school for sausage dogs.
Can you see it getting off the ground? Do I need to raise the bar?
And I need some business advice, too.
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Danny please tell us what size your business is at now please. What is your monthly turnover, how many staff/vans ect.
I really think if people want business growth and strategy advice, they should get it from someone that's been there and achieved the level that person aspires to.
Hi Lee
What's your monthly turnover, and your monthly expenditure?
How many staff do you have? How many vans?
I would be interested to know, as scaling up a window cleaning business with good regular repeat work and keeping good reliable staff on board and making it all pay is not easy.
Andy
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to use the term kick up the arse is ok I suppose.
as long as I dont get judged as bad or spammy if the businesses I help go from £12,000 per year to £20/30/40,000
it will happen!!!
but its also about everything from work/life balance, small business building, showing how to get passed those mental, physical and financial barriers.
I will have blogs and case studies up and running soon so I will keep you all posted
I can show eyes where to look, ears where to listen, when and where to act/react
some people misjudge the signs and opportunity is missed
I will explain.....
as an individual we are the best promotion and advert for our business. if we find that genuine love for what we do, it shows in our actions, we will positively and openly talk about our business in most situations (without banging on about it)
window cleaners have a hard sell instantly as there have been and are loads of dodgy ones. so giving a fresh open view of ourselves is a big hurdle jumped in making a connection with the public.
many many many things we can do to change that image
some window cleaners though just have no common sense,inner drive or a good solid work ethic.all the advice in the world couldnt make them successful.
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to use the term kick up the arse is ok I suppose.
as long as I dont get judged as bad or spammy if the businesses I help go from £12,000 per year to £20/30/40,000
it will happen!!!
but its also about everything from work/life balance, small business building, showing how to get passed those mental, physical and financial barriers.
I will have blogs and case studies up and running soon so I will keep you all posted
I can show eyes where to look, ears where to listen, when and where to act/react
some people misjudge the signs and opportunity is missed
I will explain.....
as an individual we are the best promotion and advert for our business. if we find that genuine love for what we do, it shows in our actions, we will positively and openly talk about our business in most situations (without banging on about it)
window cleaners have a hard sell instantly as there have been and are loads of dodgy ones. so giving a fresh open view of ourselves is a big hurdle jumped in making a connection with the public.
many many many things we can do to change that image
some window cleaners though just have no common sense,inner drive or a good solid work ethic.all the advice in the world couldnt make them successful.
Exactly why complicate it.
Decide what you want to achieve
Decide how you are going to achieve it
Then simply put one foot in front of the other till it's done. You will need determination and persistence to push through the many barriers and obstacles and will need to adapt your plan as you go to fit the circumstances which arise.
In other words work hard, smart and don't quit and you will succeed. There's no rocket science involved.
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to use the term kick up the arse is ok I suppose.
as long as I dont get judged as bad or spammy if the businesses I help go from £12,000 per year to £20/30/40,000
it will happen!!!
but its also about everything from work/life balance, small business building, showing how to get passed those mental, physical and financial barriers.
I will have blogs and case studies up and running soon so I will keep you all posted
I can show eyes where to look, ears where to listen, when and where to act/react
some people misjudge the signs and opportunity is missed
I will explain.....
as an individual we are the best promotion and advert for our business. if we find that genuine love for what we do, it shows in our actions, we will positively and openly talk about our business in most situations (without banging on about it)
window cleaners have a hard sell instantly as there have been and are loads of dodgy ones. so giving a fresh open view of ourselves is a big hurdle jumped in making a connection with the public.
many many many things we can do to change that image
some window cleaners though just have no common sense,inner drive or a good solid work ethic.all the advice in the world couldnt make them successful.
Exactly why complicate it.
Decide what you want to achieve
Decide how you are going to achieve it
Then simply put one foot in front of the other till it's done. You will need determination and persistence to push through the many barriers and obstacles and will need to adapt your plan as you go to fit the circumstances which arise.
In other words work hard, smart and don't quit and you will succeed. There's no rocket science involved.
That's way too simple Adam, its totally right but it needs a lot more buzz words if your going to get somebody to pay for the
advice.
You need to be able to turn that one line into a five day coaching/training course.
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Danny please tell us what size your business is at now please. What is your monthly turnover, how many staff/vans ect.
I really think if people want business growth and strategy advice, they should get it from someone that's been there and achieved the level that person aspires to.
Hi Lee
What's your monthly turnover, and your monthly expenditure?
How many staff do you have? How many vans?
I would be interested to know, as scaling up a window cleaning business with good regular repeat work and keeping good reliable staff on board and making it all pay is not easy.
Andy
I wasn't saying that I am the person to give that advice.
I'm just asking Danny what qualifies him to.
In my opinion the best person to give that kind of business advice is the person that has achieved it themselves. That has been there and done it.
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Danny please tell us what size your business is at now please. What is your monthly turnover, how many staff/vans ect.
I really think if people want business growth and strategy advice, they should get it from someone that's been there and achieved the level that person aspires to.
Hi Lee
What's your monthly turnover, and your monthly expenditure?
How many staff do you have? How many vans?
I would be interested to know, as scaling up a window cleaning business with good regular repeat work and keeping good reliable staff on board and making it all pay is not easy.
Andy
I wasn't saying that I am the person to give that advice.
I'm just asking Danny what qualifies him to.
In my opinion the best person to give that kind of business advice is the person that has achieved it themselves. That has been there and done it.
Chances are there wont be a single person on here who's been there and done it in the same way, competition, work available, achievable pricing, cash flow and so on will mean one persons road to success could be totally different to another's.
Its why you get so many conflicting opinions on here.
The vast majority of business advisors wont have started their own business but will be qualified in advertising/ marketing, dealing with customers and the financial side of running a business.
Information to them is money as is reputation, so you certainly wont be getting any reputable business advisor coming on here pretending to give out free advice with the intention of signing you up to the paid information.
Avoid how to be successful courses including books as they just pedal rubbish to dreamers and serial losers.
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Danny please tell us what size your business is at now please. What is your monthly turnover, how many staff/vans ect.
I really think if people want business growth and strategy advice, they should get it from someone that's been there and achieved the level that person aspires to.
Hi Lee
What's your monthly turnover, and your monthly expenditure?
How many staff do you have? How many vans?
I would be interested to know, as scaling up a window cleaning business with good regular repeat work and keeping good reliable staff on board and making it all pay is not easy.
Andy
I wasn't saying that I am the person to give that advice.
I'm just asking Danny what qualifies him to.
In my opinion the best person to give that kind of business advice is the person that has achieved it themselves. That has been there and done it.
Chances are there wont be a single person on here who's been there and done it in the same way, competition, work available, achievable pricing, cash flow and so on will mean one persons road to success could be totally different to another's.
Its why you get so many conflicting opinions on here.
The vast majority of business advisors wont have started their own business but will be qualified in advertising/ marketing, dealing with customers and the financial side of running a business.
Information to them is money as is reputation, so you certainly wont be getting any reputable business advisor coming on here pretending to give out free advice with the intention of signing you up to the paid information.
Avoid how to be successful courses including books as they just pedal rubbish to dreamers and serial losers.
Exactly.
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One of the things that so many coming into this business underestimate, is the amount of effort it will take to find a business. I find a pattern with all-newcomer to this business there is plenty of focus on equipment, van and how much per hour. Yet ignoring selling your service and all that goes along with this major task find customers. This fact leads to negativity, disillusionment and familiar.
The ability to sell one`s service is the last thing one`s mind and how good you will be at it. Cleani ng glass is the total easy part. Having the skill to deal with people is the talent you will need to master to be a succuss at this game.
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Danny please tell us what size your business is at now please. What is your monthly turnover, how many staff/vans ect.
I really think if people want business growth and strategy advice, they should get it from someone that's been there and achieved the level that person aspires to.
Hi Lee
What's your monthly turnover, and your monthly expenditure?
How many staff do you have? How many vans?
I would be interested to know, as scaling up a window cleaning business with good regular repeat work and keeping good reliable staff on board and making it all pay is not easy.
Andy
I wasn't saying that I am the person to give that advice.
I'm just asking Danny what qualifies him to.
In my opinion the best person to give that kind of business advice is the person that has achieved it themselves. That has been there and done it.
Chances are there wont be a single person on here who's been there and done it in the same way, competition, work available, achievable pricing, cash flow and so on will mean one persons road to success could be totally different to another's.
Its why you get so many conflicting opinions on here.
The vast majority of business advisors wont have started their own business but will be qualified in advertising/ marketing, dealing with customers and the financial side of running a business.
Information to them is money as is reputation, so you certainly wont be getting any reputable business advisor coming on here pretending to give out free advice with the intention of signing you up to the paid information.
Avoid how to be successful courses including books as they just pedal rubbish to dreamers and serial losers.
Exactly.
My wife`s company she works for has been taken over by new people and her lady boss is qualified in marketing. He, the male boss. is a business advisor and to be honest they have made every mistake they could of. Their staff is all fed up and on the verge of leaving. They came in and within one month changed the total workings of the business without even knowing their operation format of business.If just one member of staff leaves being a service business they will sink and take all their jobs with them.Which would cost them the house as it's in as collateral on their business loan? Talking about these experts, it's all book knowledge.
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Armchair expert I think we have here.
Danny I'm done on this thread if you can't answer these questions
Like I have asked before, what is your current turnover vs profit?
How many years experience do you have in business in general?
What is your age group?
You should be able to answer those questions if you are so brilliant at what you do.
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AdamThompson
8 Weekly
Lee pryor
k.diver
nathankaye
Marc Stock
G Griffin
and relax.....
sorry for the late reply just got to sit down at the comp
Danny Wiseman age 34
started in 07 worked like a typical window cleaner for years doing bits and bobs and finding every excuse not to work
3 years ago I said lets do it and built so far too...........
Dans Windows
info@danswindows.co.uk
www.danswindows.co.uk
facebook/danswindows
3 vans
6 people working as full time as we can(weather permitted, paid holidays, illnesses, family duties)tips given on employing and dealing with staff needs
£76,0000 turnover last financial year, 50% profit- tips given on marketing, branding and personal development
£110,000 projected work on cleaner planner site set out for next year provided we stay as we are
not updated with the £180 job we did today that is every month
or the endless list of work I have to get to price
not included gutter and conservatory cleans lots would like us to do
9 voice mails today half will be new leads, facebook messages and email leads to go with that
all welcome to come and see for yourselves what I am building
loving the hustle, set up a side business to help others with the knowledge I have
info@personalcoachinggroup.co.uk
www.personalcoachinggroup.co.uk
working some friends who have expertise in health and fitness, youth coaching.(which I have the diploma to go with)
currently working alongside my friends and business partners in Ukraine to set up a relaxing retreat accommodation for couples staying in shepherd huts and glamping pods in Odesa region, beautiful city by the way, thoroughly recommend
what else needs covering?
peace, love and karma to all
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AdamThompson
8 Weekly
Lee pryor
k.diver
nathankaye
Marc Stock
G Griffin
and relax.....
sorry for the late reply just got to sit down at the comp
Danny Wiseman age 34
started in 07 worked like a typical window cleaner for years doing bits and bobs and finding every excuse not to work
3 years ago I said lets do it and built so far too...........
Dans Windows
info@danswindows.co.uk
www.danswindows.co.uk
facebook/danswindows
3 vans
6 people working as full time as we can(weather permitted, paid holidays, illnesses, family duties)tips given on employing and dealing with staff needs
£76,0000 turnover last financial year, 50% profit- tips given on marketing, branding and personal development
£110,000 projected work on cleaner planner site set out for next year provided we stay as we are
not updated with the £180 job we did today that is every month
or the endless list of work I have to get to price
not included gutter and conservatory cleans lots would like us to do
9 voice mails today half will be new leads, facebook messages and email leads to go with that
all welcome to come and see for yourselves what I am building
loving the hustle, set up a side business to help others with the knowledge I have
info@personalcoachinggroup.co.uk
www.personalcoachinggroup.co.uk
working some friends who have expertise in health and fitness, youth coaching.(which I have the diploma to go with)
currently working alongside my friends and business partners in Ukraine to set up a relaxing retreat accommodation for couples staying in shepherd huts and glamping pods in Odesa region, beautiful city by the way, thoroughly recommend
what else needs covering?
peace, love and karma to all
oh and I watched a motivational video once............
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£76k turnover with 6 employees..... am I missing something?
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£76k turnover with 6 employees..... am I missing something?
grown to!!!! and growing as it says mate
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£76k turnover with 6 employees..... am I missing something?
grown to!!!! and growing as it says mate
business info
I took on two people to do what I had whilst I canvassed and grow more work
took on another to take care of that work with me and help canvass and grow good public image
took on another whilst they did the work whilst I canvassed and work with me doing new jobs and canvas
no more canvassing just straight leads
etc etc
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Good stuff Danny
LinkedIn invite sent to you.
76k turnover last year with 110k projected for 2017. Impressive.
6 employees I'd imagine this is recently taken on staff for 2017 yes? So that's approx 36k per employee correction: £18k, seems a bit on the very low to me that but then again with 6 staff you should be getting towards 300k a year turnover by the end of the 2017-2018 financial year. Approx 50k per employee is what you need in my opinion.
I take it you are VAT registered/about to register as you are near the threshold.
Are you LTD company? Sole trader turning over this kind of money will attract HMRC so be careful. (Been there before)
Your numbers seem way off, however I'd like to link in with you.
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£76k turnover with 6 employees..... am I missing something?
grown to!!!! and growing as it says mate
business info
I took on two people to do what I had whilst I canvassed and grow more work
took on another to take care of that work with me and help canvass and grow good public image
took on another whilst they did the work whilst I canvassed and work with me doing new jobs and canvas
no more canvassing just straight leads
etc etc
How are you paying 6 people and yourself?
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£76k turnover with 6 employees..... am I missing something?
grown to!!!! and growing as it says mate
The last financial year ended 2 weeks ago so you've either had an incredible 2 weeks or you have a considerable deficit?
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Good stuff Danny
LinkedIn invite sent to you.
76k turnover last year with 110k projected for 2017. Impressive.
6 employees I'd imagine this is recently taken on staff for 2017 yes? So that's approx 36k per employee, seems a bit on the low side to me that but then again with 6 staff you should be getting towards 300k a year turnover by the end of the 2017-2018 financial year. Approx 50k per employee is what you need in my opinion.
I take it you are VAT registered/about to register as you are near the threshold.
Are you LTD company? Sole trader turning over this kind of money will attract HMRC so be careful. (Been there before)
Anyway I'd like to link in with you.
thank you Marc
will gladly connect on linked in
I'm a sole trader, yeah I'm fully aware of my obligations to hmrc and vat responsibilities. No I'm not there yet but I in constant connection with my accountant monitoring it.
staff pay is not that high but they understand the way we are building up gradually together. everyone is above/well above living wage limits and constantly going up with regard to working criteria. Also well above other window cleaners locally. I try to create the best environment and job satisfaction levels for them. everything is all above board too, not like others I have known and worked for previously.
honesty and openness is something that has helped with our growth and the staying power of most employees.
thanks for your comments
Danny
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This is a wind up isn't it?
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This is a wind up isn't it?
Can't be.... a sole trader with Six employees!
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Six people and only 76000? This is the funniest thread this year.
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£76k turnover with 6 employees..... am I missing something?
grown to!!!! and growing as it says mate
business info
I took on two people to do what I had whilst I canvassed and grow more work
took on another to take care of that work with me and help canvass and grow good public image
took on another whilst they did the work whilst I canvassed and work with me doing new jobs and canvas
no more canvassing just straight leads
etc etc
How are you paying 6 people and yourself?
As employee numbers build over the past few years so have there number of hours, starters only do a few days for a few months to settle in and build up the work levels to consistently work. then someone may leave/asked to leave and then go through it all again. a few frogs before the window cleaner comes along.
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This is a wind up isn't it?
Can't be.... a sole trader with Six employees!
is that right, I haven't heard any different from my accountant??
its five and myself
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Six people and only 76000? This is the funniest thread this year.
why would (if that was the case) would that be funny.
work is work for love or money
we have turned over that the past year whilst everybody hours grow who were on at the time, taken on new workers and lots of new work?
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Six people and only 76000? This is the funniest thread this year.
5 employees plus himself.
£110k expected this year, still trying to work out how Marc came up with £36k per employee.
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So you have Five pals doing a few hours a month for you?
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This is a wind up isn't it?
Can't be.... a sole trader with Six employees!
a sole trader can have as many employees as it likes I believe sorry peavey
is that right, I haven't heard any different from my accountant??
its five and myself
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So you have Five pals doing a few hours a month for you?
nooooo, we had 2 on part time hours a few years ago.
someone else comes on does some hours working, then a few more ticketing.
then starts to do that work with growing hours, then another came on starting on afew hours cleaning , then a few ticketing, whilst that builds then does more hours
and so on and so on
5 employess and my self now!!!
you are missing the point of projected work each year and taking on an employee to work that part of the round!
it is not hard and it is working
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Aha, part timers. Old timers too?
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This is a wind up isn't it?
Can't be.... a sole trader with Six employees!
a sole trader can have as many employees as it likes I believe sorry peavey
is that right, I haven't heard any different from my accountant??
its five and myself
Indeed, but all above board and only turning over 70-oddK? Pensions, holiday/sick pay, NI contributions etc?
Surely they can't be doing many hours or that desperate to line someone else's pockets?
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AdamThompson
8 Weekly
Lee pryor
k.diver
nathankaye
Marc Stock
G Griffin
and relax.....
sorry for the late reply just got to sit down at the comp
Danny Wiseman age 34
started in 07 worked like a typical window cleaner for years doing bits and bobs and finding every excuse not to work
3 years ago I said lets do it and built so far too...........
Dans Windows
info@danswindows.co.uk
www.danswindows.co.uk
facebook/danswindows
3 vans
6 people working as full time as we can(weather permitted, paid holidays, illnesses, family duties)tips given on employing and dealing with staff needs
£76,0000 turnover last financial year, 50% profit- tips given on marketing, branding and personal development
£110,000 projected work on cleaner planner site set out for next year provided we stay as we are
not updated with the £180 job we did today that is every month
or the endless list of work I have to get to price
not included gutter and conservatory cleans lots would like us to do
9 voice mails today half will be new leads, facebook messages and email leads to go with that
all welcome to come and see for yourselves what I am building
loving the hustle, set up a side business to help others with the knowledge I have
info@personalcoachinggroup.co.uk
www.personalcoachinggroup.co.uk
working some friends who have expertise in health and fitness, youth coaching.(which I have the diploma to go with)
currently working alongside my friends and business partners in Ukraine to set up a relaxing retreat accommodation for couples staying in shepherd huts and glamping pods in Odesa region, beautiful city by the way, thoroughly recommend
what else needs covering?
peace, love and karma to all
Er I'm sorry Danny but you have just completely blown it there.
What a load of absolute rubbish! It is very very clear to me you have no understanding of business at all.
So you turned over 76k with 6 staff and made 50% profit!!! Haha!!! So that means each of your staff earned £6300.00 for the year. Oh and that doesn't account for any other expenses like running a van!!!
This is a bit like when you watch dragons den and it's all going well until the numbers bit and then we see they have no idea at all.
Danny your numbers simply don't add up mate. And believe me I should know. Each of my team turn over that much a year. 6!!! Lies mate just lies.
On the off chance this rubbish is true I put it to you that you have a terrible business and that a person would be mad to take any advice from you based on those numbers!
Ok now let me show you mine.
11 vans 9 currently out 2 more going out this year. Everyone purchased brand new and all with hot water.
£650,000.00 annual turnover
£800k target with 12 months
Profit on that is my business and I'm not telling so there.
2 full time office staff plus me, plus staffed call centre backing that up.
£100k spent last year on marketing
State of the art office and one of if not the biggest static filtration system in the country.
The only window cleaning company in the uk to deliver 1million leaflets in a year.
The first and only uk window cleaning company to advertise on TV.
So members of the forum, as long as you don't cover areas we do and are not someone that has been rude to me here in the past, you are welcome to contact my office any time for FREE advice on literally ANY aspect of running or growing your business.
Danny I won't be investing in you, I'm out!
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Aha, part timers. Old timers too?
well yeah full time plus what were part timers now full timers is it really hard for you understand)))
all my employees young and old are respected and supported fully as for what they want to get out of it.
last financial year one had used up all holiday and wanted a week off to spend time with his family. so do you know what happened? granted time off with early wage advance!!! there is something within those sentences you may understand with regard to employee job satisfaction and work life balance
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Six people and only 76000? This is the funniest thread this year.
5 employees plus himself.
£110k expected this year, still trying to work out how Marc came up with £36k per employee.
my 4 year old son was jumping up and down distracting me. ::)roll ;D :o
correction approx £18k per employee, which is even lower :o :o
Good stuff Danny
LinkedIn invite sent to you.
76k turnover last year with 110k projected for 2017. Impressive.
6 employees I'd imagine this is recently taken on staff for 2017 yes? So that's approx 36k per employee correction: £18k, seems a bit on the very low to me that but then again with 6 staff you should be getting towards 300k a year turnover by the end of the 2017-2018 financial year. Approx 50k per employee is what you need in my opinion.
I take it you are VAT registered/about to register as you are near the threshold.
Are you LTD company? Sole trader turning over this kind of money will attract HMRC so be careful. (Been there before)
Your numbers seem way off, however I'd like to link in with you.
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AdamThompson
8 Weekly
Lee pryor
k.diver
nathankaye
Marc Stock
G Griffin
and relax.....
sorry for the late reply just got to sit down at the comp
Danny Wiseman age 34
started in 07 worked like a typical window cleaner for years doing bits and bobs and finding every excuse not to work
3 years ago I said lets do it and built so far too...........
Dans Windows
info@danswindows.co.uk
www.danswindows.co.uk
facebook/danswindows
3 vans
6 people working as full time as we can(weather permitted, paid holidays, illnesses, family duties)tips given on employing and dealing with staff needs
£76,0000 turnover last financial year, 50% profit- tips given on marketing, branding and personal development
£110,000 projected work on cleaner planner site set out for next year provided we stay as we are
not updated with the £180 job we did today that is every month
or the endless list of work I have to get to price
not included gutter and conservatory cleans lots would like us to do
9 voice mails today half will be new leads, facebook messages and email leads to go with that
all welcome to come and see for yourselves what I am building
loving the hustle, set up a side business to help others with the knowledge I have
info@personalcoachinggroup.co.uk
www.personalcoachinggroup.co.uk
working some friends who have expertise in health and fitness, youth coaching.(which I have the diploma to go with)
currently working alongside my friends and business partners in Ukraine to set up a relaxing retreat accommodation for couples staying in shepherd huts and glamping pods in Odesa region, beautiful city by the way, thoroughly recommend
what else needs covering?
peace, love and karma to all
Er I'm sorry Danny but you have just completely blown it there.
What a load of absolute rubbish! It is very very clear to me you have no understanding of business at all.
So you turned over 76k with 6 staff and made 50% profit!!! Haha!!! So that means each of your staff earned £6300.00 for the year. Oh and that doesn't account for any other expenses like running a van!!!
This is a bit like when you watch dragons den and it's all going well until the numbers bit and then we see they have no idea at all.
Danny your numbers simply don't add up mate. And believe me I should know. Each of my team turn over that much a year. 6!!! Lies mate just lies.
On the off chance this rubbish is true I put it to you that you have a terrible business and that a person would be mad to take any advice from you based on those numbers!
Ok now let me show you mine.
11 vans 9 currently out 2 more going out this year. Everyone purchased brand new and all with hot water.
£650,000.00 annual turnover
£800k target with 12 months
Profit on that is my business and I'm not telling so there.
2 full time office staff plus me, plus staffed call centre backing that up.
£100k spent last year on marketing
State of the art office and one of if not the biggest static filtration system in the country.
The only window cleaning company in the uk to deliver 1million leaflets in a year.
The first and only uk window cleaning company to advertise on TV.
So members of the forum, as long as you don't cover areas we do and are not someone that has been rude to me here in the past, you are welcome to contact my office any time for FREE advice on literally ANY aspect of running or growing your business.
Danny I won't be investing in you, I'm out!
Hang on a minute Lee....... you've just done what you said everyoone does on this forum and that is poo poo someone with aspirations !!! ;D
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Six people and only 76000? This is the funniest thread this year.
5 employees plus himself.
£110k expected this year, still trying to work out how Marc came up with £36k per employee.
my 4 year old son was jumping up and down distracting me. ::)roll ;D :o
correction approx £18k per employee, which is even lower :o :o
Good stuff Danny
LinkedIn invite sent to you.
76k turnover last year with 110k projected for 2017. Impressive.
6 employees I'd imagine this is recently taken on staff for 2017 yes? So that's approx 36k per employee correction: £18k, seems a bit on the very low to me that but then again with 6 staff you should be getting towards 300k a year turnover by the end of the 2017-2018 financial year. Approx 50k per employee is what you need in my opinion.
I take it you are VAT registered/about to register as you are near the threshold.
Are you LTD company? Sole trader turning over this kind of money will attract HMRC so be careful. (Been there before)
Your numbers seem way off, however I'd like to link in with you.
Dont forget Marc he said 50% profit on the 76k and anyone with business skills knows that profit comes AFTER you pay your staff and ALL your other expenses!
This guy is offering business advice! What a complete joke.
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AdamThompson
8 Weekly
Lee pryor
k.diver
nathankaye
Marc Stock
G Griffin
and relax.....
sorry for the late reply just got to sit down at the comp
Danny Wiseman age 34
started in 07 worked like a typical window cleaner for years doing bits and bobs and finding every excuse not to work
3 years ago I said lets do it and built so far too...........
Dans Windows
info@danswindows.co.uk
www.danswindows.co.uk
facebook/danswindows
3 vans
6 people working as full time as we can(weather permitted, paid holidays, illnesses, family duties)tips given on employing and dealing with staff needs
£76,0000 turnover last financial year, 50% profit- tips given on marketing, branding and personal development
£110,000 projected work on cleaner planner site set out for next year provided we stay as we are
not updated with the £180 job we did today that is every month
or the endless list of work I have to get to price
not included gutter and conservatory cleans lots would like us to do
9 voice mails today half will be new leads, facebook messages and email leads to go with that
all welcome to come and see for yourselves what I am building
loving the hustle, set up a side business to help others with the knowledge I have
info@personalcoachinggroup.co.uk
www.personalcoachinggroup.co.uk
working some friends who have expertise in health and fitness, youth coaching.(which I have the diploma to go with)
currently working alongside my friends and business partners in Ukraine to set up a relaxing retreat accommodation for couples staying in shepherd huts and glamping pods in Odesa region, beautiful city by the way, thoroughly recommend
what else needs covering?
peace, love and karma to all
Er I'm sorry Danny but you have just completely blown it there.
What a load of absolute rubbish! It is very very clear to me you have no understanding of business at all.
So you turned over 76k with 6 staff and made 50% profit!!! Haha!!! So that means each of your staff earned £6300.00 for the year. Oh and that doesn't account for any other expenses like running a van!!!
This is a bit like when you watch dragons den and it's all going well until the numbers bit and then we see they have no idea at all.
Danny your numbers simply don't add up mate. And believe me I should know. Each of my team turn over that much a year. 6!!! Lies mate just lies.
On the off chance this rubbish is true I put it to you that you have a terrible business and that a person would be mad to take any advice from you based on those numbers!
Ok now let me show you mine.
11 vans 9 currently out 2 more going out this year. Everyone purchased brand new and all with hot water.
£650,000.00 annual turnover
£800k target with 12 months
Profit on that is my business and I'm not telling so there.
2 full time office staff plus me, plus staffed call centre backing that up.
£100k spent last year on marketing
State of the art office and one of if not the biggest static filtration system in the country.
The only window cleaning company in the uk to deliver 1million leaflets in a year.
The first and only uk window cleaning company to advertise on TV.
So members of the forum, as long as you don't cover areas we do and are not someone that has been rude to me here in the past, you are welcome to contact my office any time for FREE advice on literally ANY aspect of running or growing your business.
Danny I won't be investing in you, I'm out!
Hang on a minute Lee....... you've just done what you said everyoone does on this forum and that is poo poo someone with aspirations !!! ;D
I realise it seems that way but those numbers just dont add up.
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Danny, I'm out.
Good work Lee!!
Amazing what can be done with a window cleaning business. Working hard to catch you up!!
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I agree Lee
Im going to take these numbers with a pinch of salt though.
wow lions pit and all.....
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I realise it seems that way but those numbers just dont add up.
In all fairness you asked last time......."Am i stupid or just taking a chance" (or similar) , when everyone said you're stupid then you spat your dummy out !!! ;D
Danny is asking to "business mentor us" and needs a case example, hopefully from one of us i assume. He's just blew the best chance of a case example he had.. i.e his own !!! ;D
All good fun, beats watching Coronation St. , and i'll still be cleaning windows tomorrow while you're swivelling in your chair in the office and Danny is looking for his next victim/customer ;D
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I agree Lee
Im going to take these numbers with a pinch of salt though.
wow lions pit and all.....
You can't even get your own numbers right, never mind his !!!!!
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AdamThompson
8 Weekly
Lee pryor
k.diver
nathankaye
Marc Stock
G Griffin
and relax.....
sorry for the late reply just got to sit down at the comp
Danny Wiseman age 34
started in 07 worked like a typical window cleaner for years doing bits and bobs and finding every excuse not to work
3 years ago I said lets do it and built so far too...........
Dans Windows
info@danswindows.co.uk
www.danswindows.co.uk
facebook/danswindows
3 vans
6 people working as full time as we can(weather permitted, paid holidays, illnesses, family duties)tips given on employing and dealing with staff needs
£76,0000 turnover last financial year, 50% profit- tips given on marketing, branding and personal development
£110,000 projected work on cleaner planner site set out for next year provided we stay as we are
not updated with the £180 job we did today that is every month
or the endless list of work I have to get to price
not included gutter and conservatory cleans lots would like us to do
9 voice mails today half will be new leads, facebook messages and email leads to go with that
all welcome to come and see for yourselves what I am building
loving the hustle, set up a side business to help others with the knowledge I have
info@personalcoachinggroup.co.uk
www.personalcoachinggroup.co.uk
working some friends who have expertise in health and fitness, youth coaching.(which I have the diploma to go with)
currently working alongside my friends and business partners in Ukraine to set up a relaxing retreat accommodation for couples staying in shepherd huts and glamping pods in Odesa region, beautiful city by the way, thoroughly recommend
what else needs covering?
peace, love and karma to all
Er I'm sorry Danny but you have just completely blown it there.
What a load of absolute rubbish! It is very very clear to me you have no understanding of business at all.
So you turned over 76k with 6 staff and made 50% profit!!! Haha!!! So that means each of your staff earned £6300.00 for the year. Oh and that doesn't account for any other expenses like running a van!!!
This is a bit like when you watch dragons den and it's all going well until the numbers bit and then we see they have no idea at all.
Danny your numbers simply don't add up mate. And believe me I should know. Each of my team turn over that much a year. 6!!! Lies mate just lies.
On the off chance this rubbish is true I put it to you that you have a terrible business and that a person would be mad to take any advice from you based on those numbers!
Ok now let me show you mine.
11 vans 9 currently out 2 more going out this year. Everyone purchased brand new and all with hot water.
£650,000.00 annual turnover
£800k target with 12 months
Profit on that is my business and I'm not telling so there.
2 full time office staff plus me, plus staffed call centre backing that up.
£100k spent last year on marketing
State of the art office and one of if not the biggest static filtration system in the country.
The only window cleaning company in the uk to deliver 1million leaflets in a year.
The first and only uk window cleaning company to advertise on TV.
So members of the forum, as long as you don't cover areas we do and are not someone that has been rude to me here in the past, you are welcome to contact my office any time for FREE advice on literally ANY aspect of running or growing your business.
Danny I won't be investing in you, I'm out!
haha nice one Lee Pryor, trump card played
The information does add up if I could explain it in text form properly
Dispite being a small business with small turnover or over a half of million turnover there is market out there for what I am offering with small costs.
I can help with start ups and somebody looking to grow as I have done that part myself now.im am currently taking with local jobcentre to offer this help free.
people that cant pay wont, people that can pay should. I'm not a schemer.
I want to help the people who stop at the thought of asking/promoting their business.
Or avoid starting that business because of registration processes for whatever reason.
Or someone that needs an employee but doesn't because they think the payroll process is to much.
these small things really do stop people from achieving,. they look at Lee Pryors big business and their brain gets swamped thinking they have to be that today, tomorrow, next year.
You are the type of person I would look to in a few years to help me get to where I want to be paid or free.
I still have a few levels to go before that Is considered, I am offering the initial formation that would help others build and grow for their own business, if you could appreciate that?
I appreciate the offer of help for me or others from yourself, I have however found it hard over the years to freely obtain guidance from other small or big business. trust I have asked in many life situations and social media settings with no one willing to help honest truth! and two business support meetings I set up locally both let me down after having a day off to go meet them. went back to work after tho! perhaps that's why it was in cafes not at the office. both are big mentoring schemes, that I was willing to pay for too.
but having said that, it has led me work 'hard and smart' and found this great understanding of what I have done and am doing. so I would truly like to pass it on!
with regard to the numbers and the growth of your business, you would understand about taking on the work and matching workers to take on that work as you continue to grow. we are now at 6.
I'm definitely a actions more than words kind of person, and putting them into text is harder still.
Thank you for your comments
Danny
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It all reminds me of someone who used to frequent this place some years ago. He had "his guys" and a "head office". Turned out his mate worked for him and the head office number belonged to a 3 bed semi on a housing estate! Funnily enough, he was a business guru/life coach too!! ;D
Some proper tools been through here mind! ;D
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Ok ok.
Look Danny please dont think im being rude to you im really not. The figures you posted reveal a lot to me about your level of understanding because of the business I have built. Someone who only works alone and turns over 15K a year will come on here and not see the things I can see with what you have posted. I admire your aspiration but I think your a very long way from coming on here and putting yourself forward as a business advisor. Personally I think your the one that needs some advice based on those numbers.
Its clear you have achieved some things that others havnt and I take my hat off to you for that. I think your model has some very questionable points from what you have said.
Such as
Still being a sole trader at that level. You need a new accountant.
6 people doing not much. Why not 2 people full time.
Your predicted growth this year is actually no growth at all once you start paying VAT
running 3 vans instead of just 1 which is all you need for that level of turnover. If your guys are part time just rotate each day with a different guy in 1 van.
I think you need a clearer understanding of what profit means. £76k turnover with 50% profit is not correct now is it.
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I realise it seems that way but those numbers just dont add up.
In all fairness you asked last time......."Am i stupid or just taking a chance" (or similar) , when everyone said you're stupid then you spat your dummy out !!! ;D
haha no dummy spat out, read my comments like I'm having a normal calm convo
how is offering advice or guidance stupid with what I have done in a short space of time.
I'm thinking of away to put the staff to work to time thing into words
Danny is asking to "business mentor us" and needs a case example, hopefully from one of us i assume. He's just blew the best chance of a case example he had.. i.e his own !!! ;D
All good fun, beats watching Coronation St. , and i'll still be cleaning windows tomorrow while you're swivelling in your chair in the office and Danny is looking for his next victim/customer ;D
haha no dummy spat out, read my comments like I'm having a normal calm convo
how is offering advice or guidance stupid with what I have done in a short space of time.
I'm thinking of away to put the staff to work to time thing into words
I'm not offering to mentor/ support anyone who doesn't need it.
I'm not offering 0-£1million in one year stuff
it seems some people jump on things that are not for them. I appreciate you are trying to stop spamming or fake mentors etc
you could all offer what I'm offering but you clearly are the next steps up from what I am offering.
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It all reminds me of someone who used to frequent this place some years ago. He had "his guys" and a "head office". Turned out his mate worked for him and the head office number belonged to a 3 bed semi on a housing estate! Funnily enough, he was a business guru/life coach too!! ;D
Some proper tools been through here mind! ;D
honestly I can help small business
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I agree Lee
Im going to take these numbers with a pinch of salt though.
wow lions pit and all.....
You can't even get your own numbers right, never mind his !!!!!
Hey!!!! Below the belt bub!!!! at least i admit & correct them. Like i said my 4 year old son was jumping up and down on me trying to get my attention.
Ill send him over to you one day and see if you manage to concentrate.
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I realise it seems that way but those numbers just dont add up.
In all fairness you asked last time......."Am i stupid or just taking a chance" (or similar) , when everyone said you're stupid then you spat your dummy out !!! ;D
haha no dummy spat out, read my comments like I'm having a normal calm convo
how is offering advice or guidance stupid with what I have done in a short space of time.
I'm thinking of away to put the staff to work to time thing into words
Danny is asking to "business mentor us" and needs a case example, hopefully from one of us i assume. He's just blew the best chance of a case example he had.. i.e his own !!! ;D
All good fun, beats watching Coronation St. , and i'll still be cleaning windows tomorrow while you're swivelling in your chair in the office and Danny is looking for his next victim/customer ;D
haha no dummy spat out, read my comments like I'm having a normal calm convo
how is offering advice or guidance stupid with what I have done in a short space of time.
I'm thinking of away to put the staff to work to time thing into words
I'm not offering to mentor/ support anyone who doesn't need it.
I'm not offering 0-£1million in one year stuff
it seems some people jump on things that are not for them. I appreciate you are trying to stop spamming or fake mentors etc
you could all offer what I'm offering but you clearly are the next steps up from what I am offering.
Danny, let me give you some advice. I responded to Lee Pryor, and you have resonded to me like i was speaking to you. I never said you spat your dummy out. You're gonna need to get to grips with this Social media thing........
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I agree Lee
Im going to take these numbers with a pinch of salt though.
wow lions pit and all.....
You can't even get your own numbers right, never mind his !!!!!
Hey!!!! Below the belt bub!!!! at least i admit & correct them. Like i said my 4 year old son was jumping up and down on me trying to get my attention.
Ill send him over to you one day and see if you manage to concentrate.
I can't even concentrate on my own !! And i'm no good with figures, i'm always getting my working tax credits form returned because i've usually done something or another wrong on it !! ;D
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Danny, tell us more about... what was it , huts in Latvia or something ? That sounds more interesting......
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It all reminds me of someone who used to frequent this place some years ago. He had "his guys" and a "head office". Turned out his mate worked for him and the head office number belonged to a 3 bed semi on a housing estate! Funnily enough, he was a business guru/life coach too!! ;D
Some proper tools been through here mind! ;D
honestly I can help small business
Danny its clear to me your a nice guy with aspiration who wants to help others. Well done and I hope you continue with your posetive attitude.
Its true I have spat my dummy in the past. Good for you for not doing the same. I wouldnt take your advice but I can appreciate a good guy when I see one.
Now I really am out. Hey....................... feel free to call me if you ever need some advice ;)
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I agree Lee
Im going to take these numbers with a pinch of salt though.
wow lions pit and all.....
You can't even get your own numbers right, never mind his !!!!!
Hey!!!! Below the belt bub!!!! at least i admit & correct them. Like i said my 4 year old son was jumping up and down on me trying to get my attention.
Ill send him over to you one day and see if you manage to concentrate.
I can't even concentrate on my own !! And i'm no good with figures, i'm always getting my working tax credits form returned because i've usually done something or another wrong on it !! ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D well of course we are all knuckle draggers anyway so what the hell....
Danny, tell us more about... what was it , huts in Latvia or something ? That sounds more interesting......
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Ok ok.
Look Danny please dont think im being rude to you im really not. The figures you posted reveal a lot to me about your level of understanding because of the business I have built. Someone who only works alone and turns over 15K a year will come on here and not see the things I can see with what you have posted. I admire your aspiration but I think your a very long way from coming on here and putting yourself forward as a business advisor. Personally I think your the one that needs some advice based on those numbers.
Its clear you have achieved some things that others havnt and I take my hat off to you for that. I think your model has some very questionable points from what you have said.
Such as
Still being a sole trader at that level. You need a new accountant.
6 people doing not much. Why not 2 people full time.
Your predicted growth this year is actually no growth at all once you start paying VAT
running 3 vans instead of just 1 which is all you need for that level of turnover. If your guys are part time just rotate each day with a different guy in 1 van.
I think you need a clearer understanding of what profit means. £76k turnover with 50% profit is not correct now is it.
no Lee I don't think you were being rude at all and please don't think I am trying to be rude or read my comments as bitchy comebacks. I totally agree with what you are saying
hold back on the numbers because I cannot put into words what I am doing with regard to how many workers I have now to do the projected work and how many were doing the work last year, year before etc. that might put it better anyways:) I pull the work in, in advance knowing I will fill that slot with an employee or two, plus giving myself pressure to stay relevant and continue to add to the round. that was better again I think. so my projection is to get get to 150/170 with 6. with me? better wages will come with that,
also with regard to vat I understand that I will lose at the start this is accounted for by my focus and determination to get the balance of turnover/profit back up.
I am completely happy to lose a portion for a while. I get it don't worry.
if this is not the place to find someone who needs assistance to go through what I have experienced these past few years then I appreciate I'm preaching to the converted obvs.
I will not be sitting In an office giving advice I will be working one to one alongside the client on the ground. do you think that would work? I found saying a showing by actions are two very different things .
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come back in a year and let us know how you get on danny
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I don`t know why all this grandstanding with all figures turnover profit for all to see.We should not have any interest in someone's personal business details. It`s cheap and in bad taste. Let's get back to cleaning windows or is all this an exercise in look how fantastic I am " wonderful and great marvel of the window cleaning industry" my trumpet is hot from blowing my head off.
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come back in a year and let us know how you get on danny
(in an Austrian accent)
ILL BE BACK!!!!
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I don`t know why all this grandstanding with all figures turnover profit for all to see.We should not have any interest in someone's personal business details. It`s cheap and in bad taste. Let's get back to cleaning windows or is all this an exercise in look how fantastic I am " wonderful and great marvel of the window cleaning industry" my trumpet is hot from blowing my head off.
Yeah sorry for my part in that! all is in the window cleaning industry again